@@redrum_bd1036 This would be incredibly overpowered. The Suits are excellent as they are, the only thing I wish they would do is let us call in 3-4 a match instead of 2.
@@Nadacalypse i feel like being able to restock is much cooler and better for gameplay, we stay with the limit of two exosuits but being able to restock keeps balances as then u have to worry about not lossing the mech instead of how much ammo you spend (still the cooldown shouldnt be too short for resupply but would be a great addition)
@@falcon9086 I agree this would be a cool playstyle. I know in the first game they had a gun or a rover or something that repaired mechs and turrets, I think it replenished ammo too but I could be mistaken. It would be cool to see something like this brought in to give us an engineer feel to keep mechs, turrets and stuff alive and firing.
6:01 in the first war, we had the EXO-51 LUMBERER exosuit, with a flamethrower and 90mm cannon. There is one more suit still in the files, and since the PATRIOT and EMANCIPATOR are both modernized variants of the old WALKER and OBSIDIAN, I bet you that's coming next. A melee option that's better than the stomp would definitely be preferred, though. Maybe a kick. The stomp has too little range to work well.
we should be able to swap one of the arms for an arm we can swing for melee, and a shield for small arms. super earth can just rip the shields off the automatons! it'd be pretty balanced too since we sacrifice half our ammo capacity for the shield
^ just plan for an eventual complete overhaul of the mech system and let us customize it would be best. Let me get a mech with a sword if I can’t have one.
Yeah, Arrowhead ruined the Energy Shield Relay now that it can’t recharge. The point of the Relay is for a defendable position, but the relay doesn’t last nearly long enough in the higher tiers of Bot dives to actually be worth it, nor do you get the relay back fast enough to make up for the lack of strength. It needs to be rechargeable.
To improve the mech the single best thing they can add is a stratagem launcher. Stratagems are such a huge part of the game but being in the mech completely removes them from your gameplay, let us use them in the mech, we could in HD1
I think they are planning to add it in both mech types have the empty socket for a strat launcher on the roof and I think there was even some concept art dug up so I’m praying
Letting the top spot be modular would be great. Stratagem launcher (lob stratagems with 60m range) Enhanced radar (double your range) Energy shield relay (either personal-shield strength on your mech which is weaker than it sounds OR a stationary team-oriented shield that plants your mech in place for 5-10 seconds with the strength and range of the big bubble shield) Gas launcher (maybe a 10-15m range to confuse melee attackers) Thermal target tracker (put a box around invisible targets aka stalkers) Even a healing gas could be interesting. There are so many different options that make mechs stronger, individually or in a team capacity, which can be balanced with cooldown.
Top 3 ways to improve mechs: 1. Remove limited uses - If we keep the cool down at 10 minutes, you'd be able to call in a maximum of 4 per mission. I doubt this would feel OP. 2. Let us launch stratagems without having to leave the mech - Staying in the mech is what makes it fun. 3. Let guard dogs work with the mech - I kinda get why they don't right now because they have to return to your back to reload, but it's just weird that the shield backpack has synergy with the mech while no other backpack does.
Devs said they've got problems with the code for too many vehicles being spawned into the same map. That's why uses are limited. I bet if they fixed the technical issues, they'd give us more uses.
@@GameGod77 imo, the short periods where you have to leave the mech to do an objective or throw a reinforce are fun, it's like a qte where you try to minimize your time outside by inputting codes fast i recognize this is not how most people view it tho :/
@@nikitab.6600 SO glad you read the book. Starship troopers literally invented power armor, mechs, orbital drop pods. The modern movies and games are heretical.
Always be careful calling in a stratagem near where you called in your Mech. I have had instances where they were 15 feet apart but Pelican decided to drop the mech right in the strat beam, destroying it instantly!
it would be so nice if we could call in the transport to take the empty exo back to the destroyer and gain + 1:30 min less waiting time for the next exo to call in or so like we can send back th eagle to rearm.
I don't even care about ammo replenishing if the devs would just bring back the stratagem launcher tube from the first game. You could save your ammo if you could use strats while piloting the mech without having to get out first.
I agree. It's one thing if all 4 players have a mech each, another issue entirely when 8 mechs are on the field at once. Call a new mech in? Old one pops. No limits to how many you can call per mission, just a long-ass cooldown. Same with the orbital death laser, IMO. Give it a longer time after it lands for it to activate so it's more premeditated and can be escaped if dropped accidentally and then double the time required to call it in. Not a fan of limited-use-per-mission call-ins... It just feels bad, man.
I understand the sentiment, but I think the use limit on the orbital laser makes sense. The only way I can see AH justify removing it is if it has a low pick rate in strategem loadouts, which right now it really doesn't. People still think the orbital laser is worth taking even with limited uses, which is a sign of good balance.
They should also remove the limit on how many mech stratagems you can take during a mission. Take both types of mech = you spend most of the map inside of a mech suit because you almost always have a fresh suit ready to go.
If the devs figure out how to have 16 mechs on the map without the game crashing, I'd love to try a mech-max build where you just call in a new one every time your current one runs out of ammo... Or blows up.
@@GameGod77 Sounds like something to be solved with teamwork. Having to coddle the mech and save ammo and be really safe with it sucks, the mech gets the most work done when it's being aggressive with guns blazing. If the squad designated a mechwarrior he could use his stratagem slots to buy everone else's guns and they could replace his mechs as they go down, so the team has continuous mech fire support.
@@agentoranj5858 For the current state of the game it sounds fun to have a designated mech warrior and plan strategems around each other. However, I wouldn't call it coddling to give access to multiple mechs per person.
@@GameGod77 What I said was that each individual player having to coddle his only mech to make it last as long as possible sucks, because playing slow and safe sucks. My theory is, even if only one person gets a mech, the squad as a whole can move a lot faster if the mech player isn't worried about avoiding permanent damage and saving ammo for later i.e. coddling his mech. Co-ordinating this way might also give the squad a good excuse to use the fun chaff-clearing strategem weapons like the flamethrower, AMR and various machineguns so/because the mech can focus on the heaviest targets.
Idea: what if there was a support mech specifically designed to repair mechs, apply stims and ressuply. it could repair and give new ammo to mechs to buff them while still keeping them balanced since it requires a strategem slot and somebody in it it could have a stim gun on one side and a small gun on the other for minimal self defense it could have a third arm for grabbing supply packs off it and giving it to allies and to repair mechs this would compliment this playstyle by encouraging multiple people bringing mechs
I had a charger charge me in an emancipator. Friend thought for sure I was dead, and so did I, but I managed to time the stomp just right to stop it dead in its tracks. Best melee kill I've gotten.
(thinking of what could be done with current systems) It'd be cool for re-arming to be able to jump out of the exosuit with an ammo container/cansiter similar to the carried artiliary shells (the carrying animation and slowness) You have to then get a resupply while holding this container to get your refill Then you load the exo from outside, again being a slow and vulnerable process you need to create space for and invest the resupply into Maybe 1 resup packet also only fills half your ammo for an arm, and you fill either the left or right, not both Meaning 2 resups could only fill 50% of each side and with quite the time investment After all the drawback of the exo is its ammo effectively being a time limit on its usefulness, maybe also pairing well with the unlimited summon (max 2 ON THE FIELD per diver) for a longer cooldown. This would also push the rest of the team into ammo scrounging to make up for the limitations on resups All you'd need is a seperate keybind for jumping out with the canister (5 could be resued since backpacks arent usable in the exo) and some tweaking to make an exception for interacting with the resup packet with a held object (things like placing arty shells means you can already press E to interact while holding objects for some things) Could also slow these things down further with animations similar to static reload anims Maybe you could even request a resupply canister from outside to basically team-reload the mech or be less punishing for multiple reloads in 1 sitting Oh also add the stratagem launcher, not having it gives you a reason to jump out more often but this reload mechanics would replace that need and still have you jumping out
The stomp should be improved. Either: A) make the end-lag on the stomp shorter so you can avoid being being unable to retaliate after. or B) Let us follow up the first stop with another stomp using the other leg, allowing us to stomp through groups of smaller enemies and conserve ammo.
The mechs in the first game had a tiny stratagem cannon, so you could stay in the mech. Idk why the made it so that you have to get off the mech to use stratagems in this game.
Ways I'd improve the mechs would be to fix the vehicle spawn issues so they can remove the limited uses, and have an upgrade branch that increases mech hp and bullet capacity, small caliber bullet armor penetration and armament explosion radius (based on the mech), allow us to launch stratagems from inside the mech, and can use a supply pack to refill ammo equal to 10% of the mech's capacity for each supply box spent.
with a 10 minute cool down I'm not sure there would be any real value in removing the limit on them, the longest mission timer is something like 40 minutes, after which you can't call down your stratagems anyway, so at most with he same cool down timer and no limit you'd get around 4 drops. Increasing the cooldown effectively limits you to 3 or less. The best thing they could do to buff it would be to allow it to be reloaded, even if it took a specific backpack stratagem to do so.
I do a mech technician loadout. I go either mech with recoilless, any time i see a heavy from a distance ill hop out and use the recoilless, reload, and hop back in.
There actually is a flamethrower mech, it's called the lumberer and one arm is a flamethrower while the other is an autocannon it was in HD1 and they already confirmed it
what I would love if we could have our own customizable mech. like we could customize the limbs, the movement mechanism (maybe some could have 2 legs, 4 legs, wheels) and the weapon types. it would add a lot of customization and discussion among the community trying to find the best setup for fighting each difficulty of bugs or automatons
Honestly, the only thing I'd want changed about the mechs is to increase their survivability, make the body heavy, and make the legs and arms medium. The smallest enemies in the game shouldn't be able to injure you. It's just ridiculous that scavengers or those dinky little bots can destroy you with small arms/claws. cooldown decreased/increased uses would be nice, but allowing repairs/resupplies or increasing the armor protection (but not the health) would be the best imo
I would want them to let you bring both mechs, but maybe give them a shared cooldown to balance it out. Something similar to the eagle system, except with longer cooldowns.
Top suggestions for Mecs 1. Programable ammo like we have for recoiless and Canon 2. The Rockets should have the same stats as the Recoiless. Right now the missile has half the speed of a recoiless shot and the projectile damage is just 1250 (compared to 3200 for recoiless). The AoE damage right now is 400 but only within 2 meters which makes no sense to me. So better give it programable rockets
I wish you could restock the ammo or just not have limited uses, mechs are so fun but so limited, its also why I don't use orbital laser, its too limited.
It would be cool if you were still limited to 2 Mechs but got a Re-Arm type stratagem where you called in a Dropship to pick it back up for repair/re-arm. After like 10 minutes you get another use of the Mech stratagem. But Broken mechs can't be collected
It would be cool if they added a mech resupply option that refills ammo and can repair the limbs or half the mech health. Then they could balance it by giving it a cool down that matched the mechs.
When you jump out of the mech to do something like kill a heavy or collect things you get a feeling of relief and safety when you get back into the mech haha.
Honestly they should make a mech bay for vehicles not just mechs that way the strats work on all of them. Increase speed, handling, ammo, and MAYBE durability. Make a pilot suit that increases the stats of vehicles by a small margin and introduce a repair tool and such so you can repair your vics. Not replace missing arms or anything. Just repairs a vehicle. That way it will be its own theme and a dude dedicated to a mech can drag the use of it out alittle longer and feel good about it
Best Loudout in my opinion for bugs primary: any fire shotgun Secondary: explosive revolver (idk what the real name is) Support weapon: grenade launcher Grenades: gas grenades
Mechs are amazing vs bugs and are so fun to use strategically(except when you have shrieker modifier which can kill your eman easily). Then you also have rocket striders spammed everywhere one shotting mechs in the bot front
Hope they add a self destruct mech passive or some function once ammos been depleted and pilot is ejected from the mech, it will become a hellbomb explosion, instead of leaving it there as scrap
ways to improve it 1. remove the limited uses 2. stratagem launcher 3. let all guard dogs work with it 4. let people more properly ride on it's back 5. AND FOR HTE HELL OF IT, why add two available stratagems when you pick an exo; Self Destruct, and Mech Bay. mech bay allowing you to re-load/repair the mech on a cool down. think of it like the Eagle Re-arm we get.
We need a vehicle upgrade tree on the super destroyer I believe now with FRV making it three vehicles it's warranted Stuff like 50% more ammo for vehicle stratagems and 50% more limb health for Vehicle stratagems would be much appreciated
IMO I think they need to increase the armour, the limited ammo is fine but at least add a re supply stratagem, the cooldown can be increased but only a little. Increase blast damage on the Patriots Rockets, increase damage on the Emancipator but only a little. Increase stomp damage so it one-two shots smaller enemies give it an AOE as it’s hard to aim with the stomp and it’s very one way so an enemy can move behind you and not get effected Also because I’m a Battlefield guy, I think it would also be cool if there was a way to repair your mech
I played a few operations with a guy that would just use blitzer and a mech and kite all the bug breaches across the map and clear the big nest while the rest of use peacefully cleared the maps.
i love the imancipator with all of my heart but just imagine a mech with a laser cannon. you only have light armor penetration but infinite amo if you don´t overheat it
2:49 Did you just shoulder checked a shreker?😂 I think they could add Rearming station as optional objective, like arming SAM sites or activating radar scanner
The mechs do take fire damage. And ALOT of it. However- once the fire is on the ground it doesn’t hurt to walk on. A flamethrower will kill a mech in under a second. I flicked (with the muscle armor) from one bug to the left of the mech to the right and bwam the mech died instantly- he had just called it in too. Brand new 😭😭😭
The 10 minute cooldown is just silly tbh it should be 3 at max, its not like calling them down close to each other would make much of a difference it just means the long cooldown incentives you to throw it down as early into the mission as possible and potentially waste it
the devs should add some place to hold onto the mech. My friend likes to catch a ride on my mech for crossing bodies of water for example, but it looks glitched.
Mech warbond with booster to allow stratagem use in mech, sidearm that is a mech repair tool, and backpack that serves as a mech re-arm. Hire me arrowhead. I just worry this could make mechs too good lol.
People still crash a lot in helldiver's 2 specifically everyone who is not the host. Take that into consideration when you believe people are quitting.
I think they stealth buffed that area, i tried it out a few times. A few months ago you would just die if the mech got destroyed, but now you always just jump out of the mech. Try dropping a OPS on yourself in a mech.
I think the mechs need a secondary strategem thats called a reloading pylon and it reloads all allies in the range for 45 seconds, mechs included. The idea of making a gun that magnificent fire and forget is silly
Arrowhead!!!! Let us restock their ammo my life is yours!!!!!!!!
The fact that you need 4 suits to do this is sad, they need to be effective and require infantry support, only one should be enough to do all this. 😢
@@redrum_bd1036 This would be incredibly overpowered. The Suits are excellent as they are, the only thing I wish they would do is let us call in 3-4 a match instead of 2.
and reduce their cooldown since they are quite fragile and I hate 10min
@@Nadacalypse i feel like being able to restock is much cooler and better for gameplay, we stay with the limit of two exosuits but being able to restock keeps balances as then u have to worry about not lossing the mech instead of how much ammo you spend (still the cooldown shouldnt be too short for resupply but would be a great addition)
@@falcon9086 I agree this would be a cool playstyle. I know in the first game they had a gun or a rover or something that repaired mechs and turrets, I think it replenished ammo too but I could be mistaken. It would be cool to see something like this brought in to give us an engineer feel to keep mechs, turrets and stuff alive and firing.
6:01 in the first war, we had the EXO-51 LUMBERER exosuit, with a flamethrower and 90mm cannon. There is one more suit still in the files, and since the PATRIOT and EMANCIPATOR are both modernized variants of the old WALKER and OBSIDIAN, I bet you that's coming next.
A melee option that's better than the stomp would definitely be preferred, though. Maybe a kick. The stomp has too little range to work well.
i LOVEDD the lumberer. it's the only mech i actually use, and yeah, a better melee would be worth losing a whole arm on a new mech imo.
we should be able to swap one of the arms for an arm we can swing for melee, and a shield for small arms. super earth can just rip the shields off the automatons! it'd be pretty balanced too since we sacrifice half our ammo capacity for the shield
^ just plan for an eventual complete overhaul of the mech system and let us customize it would be best. Let me get a mech with a sword if I can’t have one.
Man, those were the good mech times... the 90mm was so much fun
I wish for a system that keeps the exo hull and then allows to swap arms (hell, adding top-mounted components would be nice!)
If you use the energy shield pack, it will protect the exo-suit as well. Just not the limbs
Lol deploying your shield generator relay onto the mech should work that would be funny
@@Yargenshmoler it would be funnier to have a ladder and railing so another player may sit on top
@@Yargenshmoler relay update idea, you can pick it up like an explosive barrel and drop it to redeploy it
@h2o848 what if it became a backpack on the mech if you pick it up in the mech
Yeah, Arrowhead ruined the Energy Shield Relay now that it can’t recharge. The point of the Relay is for a defendable position, but the relay doesn’t last nearly long enough in the higher tiers of Bot dives to actually be worth it, nor do you get the relay back fast enough to make up for the lack of strength. It needs to be rechargeable.
To improve the mech the single best thing they can add is a stratagem launcher. Stratagems are such a huge part of the game but being in the mech completely removes them from your gameplay, let us use them in the mech, we could in HD1
I think they are planning to add it in both mech types have the empty socket for a strat launcher on the roof and I think there was even some concept art dug up so I’m praying
Letting the top spot be modular would be great.
Stratagem launcher (lob stratagems with 60m range)
Enhanced radar (double your range)
Energy shield relay (either personal-shield strength on your mech which is weaker than it sounds OR a stationary team-oriented shield that plants your mech in place for 5-10 seconds with the strength and range of the big bubble shield)
Gas launcher (maybe a 10-15m range to confuse melee attackers)
Thermal target tracker (put a box around invisible targets aka stalkers)
Even a healing gas could be interesting.
There are so many different options that make mechs stronger, individually or in a team capacity, which can be balanced with cooldown.
File leaks show that Mechs will be getting the stratagem launcher on them just like the Mechs from the first game.
4 mechs tossing 500kg bombs simultaneously sounds like a dream
They definitely already showed that coming 😅
2:48 Are we just not gonna talk about the shrieker running into the mech and getting stuck?? 😭
Imagine just hearing a soft bump sound from the cockpit.
"We're friends now. We're getting soft tacos later!"
That's the redbull support weapon, it gives your mech wings.
Top 3 ways to improve mechs:
1. Remove limited uses - If we keep the cool down at 10 minutes, you'd be able to call in a maximum of 4 per mission. I doubt this would feel OP.
2. Let us launch stratagems without having to leave the mech - Staying in the mech is what makes it fun.
3. Let guard dogs work with the mech - I kinda get why they don't right now because they have to return to your back to reload, but it's just weird that the shield backpack has synergy with the mech while no other backpack does.
Devs said they've got problems with the code for too many vehicles being spawned into the same map. That's why uses are limited. I bet if they fixed the technical issues, they'd give us more uses.
@@GameGod77 imo, the short periods where you have to leave the mech to do an objective or throw a reinforce are fun, it's like a qte where you try to minimize your time outside by inputting codes fast
i recognize this is not how most people view it tho :/
Wait shield backpack works with the mech??
@@chrissnider9555 The little bubble shield pokes out from the cockpit, yeah.
@@chrissnider9555 Yes.
Oh look, lore accurate starship troopers.
Lore accurate starship troopers would have large jumppacks strapped to these bad boys, and the capability of launching mininukes.
@CountKibblesNBits yes, that too. But it's way closer to what we had in the movies and games previously.
@@nikitab.6600 SO glad you read the book. Starship troopers literally invented power armor, mechs, orbital drop pods. The modern movies and games are heretical.
They should add a ship upgrade that increases the ammo count for the mechs
Superior Packing Methodology should’ve had an effect on the mechs :/
Always be careful calling in a stratagem near where you called in your Mech. I have had instances where they were 15 feet apart but Pelican decided to drop the mech right in the strat beam, destroying it instantly!
Bring back the stratagem launcher on the mechs like Helldivers 1
it would be so nice if we could call in the transport to take the empty exo back to the destroyer and gain + 1:30 min less waiting time for the next exo to call in or so like we can send back th eagle to rearm.
Or resupply strat that allows you to request new amo
I love using the exosuits, i just wish you could refill the ammo, they add that in and they will be amazing
I don't even care about ammo replenishing if the devs would just bring back the stratagem launcher tube from the first game. You could save your ammo if you could use strats while piloting the mech without having to get out first.
@TheReapersSon id be fine with that
YES! I was just looking for a video like this the other day and was disappointed no one made a full mech squad video.
I agree.
It's one thing if all 4 players have a mech each, another issue entirely when 8 mechs are on the field at once.
Call a new mech in? Old one pops. No limits to how many you can call per mission, just a long-ass cooldown.
Same with the orbital death laser, IMO. Give it a longer time after it lands for it to activate so it's more premeditated and can be escaped if dropped accidentally and then double the time required to call it in. Not a fan of limited-use-per-mission call-ins... It just feels bad, man.
I understand the sentiment, but I think the use limit on the orbital laser makes sense. The only way I can see AH justify removing it is if it has a low pick rate in strategem loadouts, which right now it really doesn't.
People still think the orbital laser is worth taking even with limited uses, which is a sign of good balance.
The orbital feels better with it being limited imo. It feels like a limited use trump card that when deployed just solves a problem.
I don't understand why an energy weapon has ammo limitation.
@youretheChrist Because the battery dies
@youretheChrist iirc it goes through a giant ass heatsink when done (similar to the hand held varient) and has to be replaced after every shot
3:00 I like the added wing cosmetic here :P
15:45 I love how the shrieker dies in contact with the suit. lol
And the *Tink* noise it made
2:47 as well
They should also remove the limit on how many mech stratagems you can take during a mission. Take both types of mech = you spend most of the map inside of a mech suit because you almost always have a fresh suit ready to go.
If the devs figure out how to have 16 mechs on the map without the game crashing, I'd love to try a mech-max build where you just call in a new one every time your current one runs out of ammo... Or blows up.
@@GameGod77 Sounds like something to be solved with teamwork. Having to coddle the mech and save ammo and be really safe with it sucks, the mech gets the most work done when it's being aggressive with guns blazing. If the squad designated a mechwarrior he could use his stratagem slots to buy everone else's guns and they could replace his mechs as they go down, so the team has continuous mech fire support.
@@agentoranj5858 For the current state of the game it sounds fun to have a designated mech warrior and plan strategems around each other.
However, I wouldn't call it coddling to give access to multiple mechs per person.
@@GameGod77 What I said was that each individual player having to coddle his only mech to make it last as long as possible sucks, because playing slow and safe sucks.
My theory is, even if only one person gets a mech, the squad as a whole can move a lot faster if the mech player isn't worried about avoiding permanent damage and saving ammo for later i.e. coddling his mech.
Co-ordinating this way might also give the squad a good excuse to use the fun chaff-clearing strategem weapons like the flamethrower, AMR and various machineguns so/because the mech can focus on the heaviest targets.
Idea: what if there was a support mech specifically designed to repair mechs, apply stims and ressuply.
it could repair and give new ammo to mechs to buff them while still keeping them balanced since it requires a strategem slot and somebody in it
it could have a stim gun on one side and a small gun on the other for minimal self defense
it could have a third arm for grabbing supply packs off it and giving it to allies and to repair mechs
this would compliment this playstyle by encouraging multiple people bringing mechs
Yes, you can melee a charger and kill it. However, Behemoths are much harder to kill. A regular Charger will die to 3 stomps if I recall correctly.
Pretty sure I've killed several chargers in just two stomps.
@@Althemor Might be
I had a charger charge me in an emancipator. Friend thought for sure I was dead, and so did I, but I managed to time the stomp just right to stop it dead in its tracks. Best melee kill I've gotten.
I still think both of the mech need some buff in their overall health and use time, it already have a 9 min cool down
(thinking of what could be done with current systems)
It'd be cool for re-arming to be able to jump out of the exosuit with an ammo container/cansiter similar to the carried artiliary shells (the carrying animation and slowness)
You have to then get a resupply while holding this container to get your refill
Then you load the exo from outside, again being a slow and vulnerable process you need to create space for and invest the resupply into
Maybe 1 resup packet also only fills half your ammo for an arm, and you fill either the left or right, not both
Meaning 2 resups could only fill 50% of each side and with quite the time investment
After all the drawback of the exo is its ammo effectively being a time limit on its usefulness, maybe also pairing well with the unlimited summon (max 2 ON THE FIELD per diver) for a longer cooldown. This would also push the rest of the team into ammo scrounging to make up for the limitations on resups
All you'd need is a seperate keybind for jumping out with the canister (5 could be resued since backpacks arent usable in the exo) and some tweaking to make an exception for interacting with the resup packet with a held object (things like placing arty shells means you can already press E to interact while holding objects for some things)
Could also slow these things down further with animations similar to static reload anims
Maybe you could even request a resupply canister from outside to basically team-reload the mech or be less punishing for multiple reloads in 1 sitting
Oh also add the stratagem launcher, not having it gives you a reason to jump out more often but this reload mechanics would replace that need and still have you jumping out
Dude the rate at which you pump out videos is nuts.
@20:28 What's the blue streaks flashing through the sky?? 🤔
I've seen this a few times on my playthrough especially in the past couple weeks
Artillery. Except on automaton worlds, the artillery comes for you.
@@Chezeborger isn't Automaton Artilly red colored though?
@@jasonwcox thays what I was thinking plus when I seen it it was towards the end of the mission no artillery active
@@jasonwcox I always remember it being bright blue? And showing a bright blue light under me and then blowing up
The ability to carry a supply pack like a blackbox and give it to a mech to replenish partial ammo would be phenomenal
Take 4 of these into a blitz mission and annihilate the map in 7 minutes on lvl 10! Its so much fun with a squad and very effective!
The stomp should be improved. Either:
A) make the end-lag on the stomp shorter so you can avoid being being unable to retaliate after.
or
B) Let us follow up the first stop with another stomp using the other leg, allowing us to stomp through groups of smaller enemies and conserve ammo.
0:47
Sorry but idk how no one picks up on this but the stalker nests always contain grey on the map. you can clearly see it north east
The mechs in the first game had a tiny stratagem cannon, so you could stay in the mech. Idk why the made it so that you have to get off the mech to use stratagems in this game.
Mechs + Teamwork = Awesome results ♡❤
Ways I'd improve the mechs would be to fix the vehicle spawn issues so they can remove the limited uses, and have an upgrade branch that increases mech hp and bullet capacity, small caliber bullet armor penetration and armament explosion radius (based on the mech), allow us to launch stratagems from inside the mech, and can use a supply pack to refill ammo equal to 10% of the mech's capacity for each supply box spent.
with a 10 minute cool down I'm not sure there would be any real value in removing the limit on them, the longest mission timer is something like 40 minutes, after which you can't call down your stratagems anyway, so at most with he same cool down timer and no limit you'd get around 4 drops. Increasing the cooldown effectively limits you to 3 or less.
The best thing they could do to buff it would be to allow it to be reloaded, even if it took a specific backpack stratagem to do so.
I do a mech technician loadout. I go either mech with recoilless, any time i see a heavy from a distance ill hop out and use the recoilless, reload, and hop back in.
There actually is a flamethrower mech, it's called the lumberer and one arm is a flamethrower while the other is an autocannon it was in HD1 and they already confirmed it
i miss being able to actualy close the bug breaches like in the first game, it made comserving grenades even more important.
In the first game, you could take repeats of a single stratagem. Being able to bring a total of eight mechs per player would be pretty good.
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what I would love if we could have our own customizable mech. like we could customize the limbs, the movement mechanism (maybe some could have 2 legs, 4 legs, wheels) and the weapon types. it would add a lot of customization and discussion among the community trying to find the best setup for fighting each difficulty of bugs or automatons
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Honestly, the only thing I'd want changed about the mechs is to increase their survivability, make the body heavy, and make the legs and arms medium. The smallest enemies in the game shouldn't be able to injure you. It's just ridiculous that scavengers or those dinky little bots can destroy you with small arms/claws.
cooldown decreased/increased uses would be nice, but allowing repairs/resupplies or increasing the armor protection (but not the health) would be the best imo
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I would want them to let you bring both mechs, but maybe give them a shared cooldown to balance it out. Something similar to the eagle system, except with longer cooldowns.
Orbital Repair-Rearm Station for the Mechs would be sick.
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If they increase the cd on the mech suits any more you can only get a max of like 3 of them in a match anyway so what's the point?
7:55 must be one of the coolest charger kills I've ever seen!
it seems it is good to use shieldpack with walkers as some shots are blocked by it while you're inside !
CC Mech with sword attachment for melee and a flamethrower and grenade launcher would be so tough. Fire mode swap to make the nades EMP too.
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1. Programable ammo like we have for recoiless and Canon
2. The Rockets should have the same stats as the Recoiless. Right now the missile has half the speed of a recoiless shot and the projectile damage is just 1250 (compared to 3200 for recoiless). The AoE damage right now is 400 but only within 2 meters which makes no sense to me. So better give it programable rockets
My guy im sorry but this would be way too op. Keep in mind you are not supposed to feel strong in helldivers
I wish you could restock the ammo or just not have limited uses, mechs are so fun but so limited, its also why I don't use orbital laser, its too limited.
It would be cool if you were still limited to 2 Mechs but got a Re-Arm type stratagem where you called in a Dropship to pick it back up for repair/re-arm. After like 10 minutes you get another use of the Mech stratagem. But Broken mechs can't be collected
We need a mech focused warbond that has a sidearm that is actually a repair tool, and a boost that allows stratagems to be called in while in a mech
It would be cool if they added a mech resupply option that refills ammo and can repair the limbs or half the mech health. Then they could balance it by giving it a cool down that matched the mechs.
When you jump out of the mech to do something like kill a heavy or collect things you get a feeling of relief and safety when you get back into the mech haha.
I wish they would add a stratagem to reload the walkers just like the eagle. Keep the uses and cooldown the same. Would definitely expand its use.
How come when I use a recoiless rifle it’s only good for one use?
Honestly they should make a mech bay for vehicles not just mechs that way the strats work on all of them. Increase speed, handling, ammo, and MAYBE durability. Make a pilot suit that increases the stats of vehicles by a small margin and introduce a repair tool and such so you can repair your vics. Not replace missing arms or anything. Just repairs a vehicle. That way it will be its own theme and a dude dedicated to a mech can drag the use of it out alittle longer and feel good about it
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primary: any fire shotgun
Secondary: explosive revolver (idk what the real name is)
Support weapon: grenade launcher
Grenades: gas grenades
Mechs are amazing vs bugs and are so fun to use strategically(except when you have shrieker modifier which can kill your eman easily). Then you also have rocket striders spammed everywhere one shotting mechs in the bot front
a resupply for mechs would require a pelican stratagem slot for infantry AND mechs
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Hope they add a self destruct mech passive or some function once ammos been depleted and pilot is ejected from the mech, it will become a hellbomb explosion, instead of leaving it there as scrap
Only bad thing about this strategy is that everyone is ignoring the samples. you walked past at least 5 rare samples
ways to improve it
1. remove the limited uses
2. stratagem launcher
3. let all guard dogs work with it
4. let people more properly ride on it's back
5. AND FOR HTE HELL OF IT, why add two available stratagems when you pick an exo; Self Destruct, and Mech Bay. mech bay allowing you to re-load/repair the mech on a cool down. think of it like the Eagle Re-arm we get.
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We need a vehicle upgrade tree on the super destroyer I believe now with FRV making it three vehicles it's warranted
Stuff like 50% more ammo for vehicle stratagems
and
50% more limb health for Vehicle stratagems
would be much appreciated
IMO I think they need to increase the armour, the limited ammo is fine but at least add a re supply stratagem, the cooldown can be increased but only a little. Increase blast damage on the Patriots Rockets, increase damage on the Emancipator but only a little. Increase stomp damage so it one-two shots smaller enemies give it an AOE as it’s hard to aim with the stomp and it’s very one way so an enemy can move behind you and not get effected
Also because I’m a Battlefield guy, I think it would also be cool if there was a way to repair your mech
I use the mech like a armored personal carrier traveling to mission site then hopping out and doing the dirty work with boots on the ground.
I played a few operations with a guy that would just use blitzer and a mech and kite all the bug breaches across the map and clear the big nest while the rest of use peacefully cleared the maps.
lol destroying that impaler at like 3:30 was hilarious
Imagine a booster that turns your suit into a hellbomb after you run out of ammo.
I'd recommend using melee more often - it's also quite effective against chargers
Will your own poison gas stratagems damage your own mechs too?
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Should be a hold r then arm the self destruction so next you go out or get destroyed it goes boom
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When does it come out on xbox?
How to improve mechs? Let you use strategems without dismount
i love the imancipator with all of my heart but just imagine a mech with a laser cannon. you only have light armor penetration but infinite amo if you don´t overheat it
We need a free mech stratagem period like we've had with other stratagems. Feel like its one that would go down very well.
2:49 Did you just shoulder checked a shreker?😂
I think they could add Rearming station as optional objective, like arming SAM sites or activating radar scanner
I saw that there was a mech with a flamethrower and a heavy cannon it would be so cool if they added that one
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The mechs do take fire damage. And ALOT of it. However- once the fire is on the ground it doesn’t hurt to walk on. A flamethrower will kill a mech in under a second. I flicked (with the muscle armor) from one bug to the left of the mech to the right and bwam the mech died instantly- he had just called it in too. Brand new 😭😭😭
are those bugs flying?
That was the best gas grenade i've ever seen at that charger at 7:40
The 10 minute cooldown is just silly tbh it should be 3 at max, its not like calling them down close to each other would make much of a difference it just means the long cooldown incentives you to throw it down as early into the mission as possible and potentially waste it
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the devs should add some place to hold onto the mech. My friend likes to catch a ride on my mech for crossing bodies of water for example, but it looks glitched.
Mech warbond with booster to allow stratagem use in mech, sidearm that is a mech repair tool, and backpack that serves as a mech re-arm. Hire me arrowhead.
I just worry this could make mechs too good lol.
How do you coordinate mech suits like this? I can't even get through a match without all 3 teammates rage quitting. Idk
People still crash a lot in helldiver's 2 specifically everyone who is not the host. Take that into consideration when you believe people are quitting.
1 guy with a jump pak and an arc thrower (stalker nest are a cake walk)
It would be cool if the mechs had a ejection seat. so if you about to blow up you get out safely
I think they stealth buffed that area, i tried it out a few times. A few months ago you would just die if the mech got destroyed, but now you always just jump out of the mech. Try dropping a OPS on yourself in a mech.
Emancipator is my absolute favorite right now
The mechs are absolute units, I rack up the highest killstreaks with the Patriot Exosuit
Wish you were able to restock ammo into these mechs otherwise it just doesn't feel worthwhile imo
I mean, if you, when you're in an exo, you DON'T charge the biggest enemy you find, you're doing Lady Liberty a disservice xD
Are your teammates also part of the stream? If so, that’s cool.
We should be able to reload these . Also i want to be able to carry both if i want.
Save your ammo and just hulk-smash-step your way through mobs. I usually save my rounds for the largest of enemies!
Add on every planet somekind of facility were you can refill your mech. Somekind of hagar bay.
I think the mechs need a secondary strategem thats called a reloading pylon and it reloads all allies in the range for 45 seconds, mechs included. The idea of making a gun that magnificent fire and forget is silly