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- Esports podcast specializing in feeding and Overwatch.
Featuring Scott "Custa" Kennedy, Connor "Avast" Prince, Jack "Jaws" Wright, and Jonathan "Reinforce" Larsson.
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro / The end of this Shanghai roster?
18:30 - Dallas Fuel wins the 2022 Championship!
35:55 - San Francisco Shock's Lower Bracket Run
48:15 - Houston Outlaws Top 3!!
1:04:30 - Hangzhou Spark fulfill their potential, top 4!
1:09:55 - Playoff Format Thoughts
1:24:15 - Seoul Dynasty
1:41:53 - London Spitfire Top 6!
1:49:35 - LA Gladiators
2:16:15 - Florida Mayhem
2:28:45 - Discussing ATL/PHI/SHD/TOR
2:54:00 - Worst Take of the Week Award
3:05:00 - Rapid Fire Playoff Takeaways
3:20:30 - Bren's Player of the Week - เกม
![[Live] : ONE 167 วันนี้!! "ตะวันฉาย vs โจ"](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/D9_dvfIa6Ao/mqdefault.jpg)
These poor three tired boys. Thank you for giving us our PlatChat despite the exhaustion.
Under appreciating Boston avast is fucked up
Ah hell you're right! I'm so sorry Boston Avast, you were great too!
Avast's been pretty quiet this episode.
Very impressive posture though, great endurance.
you cant give shit takes if u dont say nothing
feels bad that reinforce is the only og plat chatter who is trying to keep the show alive. hes working for it. my goat.
So proud of the Houston Outlaws for coming so far when many thought they were an okay team. Hope to see even greater things next year!!! Just hope their players get some award recognition next year.
@@zayodadong what does Jake have to do with that he’s a coach
@@baseebird also the year jake became coach is the year they went the furthest as well LMAO
@@zayodadong dumbass 💀
Swedish man defends his right to podcast despite his companions abandonment.
Love plat chat, and especially Jonny who recently has been pouring everything into plat chat and OWL. Big props and I will always support this content.
I'm surprised you guys didn't talk about the kiriko more being the new hero everyone was excited about. Her impact was really felt imo you could tell the difference between teams that had an elite kiriko like dallas and teams that just had an alright kiriko like glads.
Avast had really good points in this episode I agree with avast when he said dynasty will be the best team next season
I swear he said yaki was worse than proper you're tripping balls
Why not a PlatChat/Tactical Crouch crossover episode next week?
Give the people what they want
Put AVRL in 2 windows.
I love Butterfinger.
"Please come back, we like money" - Custa
It is funny to note that if Shock won it all, that's the third championship that Crusty didn't get Coach of the Year
The award didn't existed in 2019 :( he deserves one so bad lol
🧡🖤As a Shock fan I am proud of the Team!
We had a amazing season and a amazing playoffs run👏🏻
GG well played Dallas
You guys are fucking champs, and I very much appreciate Johnny's commitment to weekly videos, but please get some rest lol
I was a Dallas Fuel Fan even before they were called Dallas Fuel. The Grand Finals were an emotional roller coaster that ended in a victory.
BUT, my heroes of the year are the London Spitfire. This years run has to be a story that will be told in legends.
Also: Chadi! This man has to be RL Reinhardt. He captured the hearts of the community with 1 single sentence in an interview and a couple of pushups. What a legend.
"Also, kinda cringe to pred against the London Spitfire!"
Viol2t needs more credit.. he was legit carrying on lucio. He's always lapping the other lucio in beats and striker was a clutch pickup, he was insane until grand finals
The hard part with that is the amount of times Viol2t got picked off first. So yeah he was getting beats, which won fights and some games, but he also was getting picked first or before the fights even began. He had the same issue last year
absolutely not
Leave aura on heal, ez ult charge
1:17:16 it's literally happened 4 out of the 5 seasons we've had so far. The only season it didnt happen in was 2021
They didn't let Avast say a single word. Sadge
Just a note that this podcast is listed under LOL in the description/category for games. Not sure why but just something to maybe fix
I just can’t believe Crong didn’t win rookie of the year
Could you guys go back to the stage tier list that you did last season, I missed them this year and it’ll be a good activity to do now that the season’s over. Also maybe do a playoffs tier list as well (now that there’s been 5 years of playoffs)
As a Philly fan, I want to add something to the discussion that worried me going into playoffs and I considere that happened. Philly had a tendency this season to start pretty bad in a new meta and eventually, as the weeks passed, get a better grasp of the meta and start playing some pretty disgusting Overwatch. All their good runs were in a meta they had played all stage long and all their flop games came at the start of the stage, so yeah I was pretty worried entrying playoffs and unfortunately for us Philly fans, the cycle of mysery repeated itself
I think that's a factor. Opting to play carpe against London also wasn't a good call. It's weird, but the team just seemed to play worse when he was in.
@@eckroattheeckroat4246 zest probably plays a big part in shot calling too
I think it would be fun if for the 2 weeks break for teams to practice playoffs, there was a "Best of the rest" tournament for all the teams that didn't make playoffs. It could even part of an All-stars games, etc. It both gives us more content, and the players more practice, which improves the quality of the matches.
Worst takes of the week is so fun, that segment has to be my favorite one ever.
Good job this week, guys
The thing with Seoul and what Johnny heard about rumours - what people don’t realise is that profit’s reaper is sus, which makes sense as they were doing better when reaper was out of the mix
1:28:31 jaws with the reference of the week
Reinforce I just wanna say I really appreciate you still doing platchat.
As an Outlaws fan, I did not expect them to make top 3 in THIS meta. I expected maybe top 6. Which is what you guys said. :) I'm a fan but pretty realistic. So they over performed and unlocked a lot of potential.
On the Outlaws not getting nominated. Merit was more consistent than Kai throughout the entire year lol. Like not even remotely close. Kai was also benched a lot. Merit was not. Hadi and Danteh had the same roles for their teams except Danteh and his team won more than London , like not on the final stage, throughout the entire year. Their technical worst stage was the last stage, because they clearly didn't try after they demolished Shock and Fuel xD lol
To your point about being more transparent with the teams and people inside the league - it might be a good opportunity to bring back backchat during the off season, where you can talk to the players/gms/coaches with specific questions and they have a platform to clear the air on those things :)
Can't wait for Netflix to release The Changgoon Tapes in 30 years.
In regards to playoff format, winners/losers bracket is better than single elim, group stages are just a ridiculous thing, however the series format from season 1 could be a good thing to help really show the better of close teams. The only problem with winners bracket is that the winner gets no advantage of a second loss like every team does, they have that burden of the one loss means it's all gone away, sure there's a game less, but it's still a problem and a disadvantage that even Andy Miller has brought up from both sides of the bracket.
Maybe for a next segment in a future stream, could you guys maybe make "fantasy teams" for a potential World Cup in 2023 (or if one would have taken place in 2022, what would each team look like?) You did it once prior to season 4, and it was one of my favorite segments to watch back in the day.
Lmao the audio ends so perfectly
Seoul and Gladiators are my 2 teams, so watching the playoffs was really hard lol. Shock knocked both of them out, so I was rooting for Dallas in the finals, glad they ended up winning. I feel like after they lost Ans and Patiphan the Glads fell off. Patiphan ultimately played really well this season, showing flexibility on some crazy heroes and I feel like he could have played Reaper really well. Ans could be so clutch when they needed him to be, Happy is more consistent maybe but Ans definitely has higher peaks
Play off glads had huge team work issues, their players are still among the most talented
I think patiphan was the glue that held the team together this year. He wasnt a carry but he held his own very well and they really only did well when he was in the lineup
@@gobbagoo Yeah exactly, that's what I'm thinking as well. Plus we saw when he was on camera what kind of personality and character he was. Don't know the behind the scenes stuff obviously but I wouldn't be surprised if he kept vibes really high even when pressure/tension was up
next week special episode Plat Chat x Tactical Crouch lets gooo
The Grand Finals 2022 in a nutshell:
San Francisco Shock: "Let the Kitsune guide you!!!"
Dallas Fuel: "Good bye!"
2:59:05 well this didn't age too well
😂
What if TEAM OWL find a way to broadcast screams as well? Like friendly matches in soccer
I would've really loved to see all star matches off the league
I know it's a meme that you don't talk about Dallas Fuel and just want to talk Shock/Proper, but lil bros didn't even talk one bit about Sparkle/Edison/Fielder/Chiyo's dominance outside of just Fearless!? ☠
Custa picking up the mantle of APAC apologist since Avrl couldn't make it I see lol
What he said was true tho? It's not an excuse for APAC teams to perform poorly per se but it explains why they couldn't compete with the top tier NA teams.
59:01 Washington Justice go brrrr
RIP LemonDay not even thought about when scrambling for guests
What happend to kurt? Dude was an awesome producer and a great part of the show
He is probably working on Plat Chat Valorant more often.
Thank you
the description says featuring avast lol
I lowkey want Shanghai to go full Chinese next year. If they can get Shy, Leave, Gaga, Mmonk and Xerneas and maybe add like N1ghtG0d and Recall as young talent you have a championship winning team right there.
So you want Shanghai to drop Lip?…
……
ok Dallas can pick him up.
@@JamesL0717 I just thought it was a fun thought experiment. Most likely Shanghai will pickup Someone and Zest or Alphayi. And that would be great.
I just like to imagine Shy and Leave playing together and Spark and Hunters don't have enough money.
So what chengdu was supposed to be this year + shy
Double elimination makes it to where you don't lose to just one team
Atlanta: Hold my beer
Shoutout to the forgotten mvp of this title run: Decay. Who knows if Dallas assembles this roster if not for whatever happened behind the scenes 2 years ago that they released Decay during the season then blew up the whole roster after the year. Perhaps they'd have simply just tried to build something around Decay and Doha.
I know they joked about how fans criticize them for not talking about Dallas enough, but I still felt like you went more in depth into Shock's success than Dallas's. With Shock, you went player by player and talked about how each of them did, doting praise on Striker, Mickey, etc. With Dallas, you never talked about Fielder's Kiriko being probably the best in the league and how effective he was at using his ults (which he consistently got faster than his opponents). You also didn't mention how good Edison has become at Sojourn. While he wasn't "As" good, he still beat proper enough that the rest of Dallas was able to consistently win. I also felt like it's imporant to note that Dallas got more role star awards than any other team with 4 different players getting them, which means that 5 of the 6 main players on Dallas (Hanbin, Fearless, Fielder, Sparkle, and Chiyo) have all gotten MVP noms and Role Stars in the last two seasons.
What I'm trying to say, is I wish you would talk more about "why" this team is so good and what specifically this team did so well to win the playoffs.
so it's not just me that's noticed, good. well, they can have their bias, because we know in the end who had the last laugh xD
What I learnt from this season:
I want a proper profit dps line
The region's need balancing but whats the solution
Changoon is the truth and its always goonable
When’s the owl skin vault opening
Reaper metas are fun. I will die on this hill. :)
not sure about playoffs profit narrative anymore. after the amazing 2020 playoffs he played in six playoffs/tournaments (2021 CC, 2021 play-ins, 2022 KC, 2022 MM, 2022 SS, 2022 playoffs) and was amazing in only one of them which is 2022 KC. even if i take out 2022 SS in which he played brig that is still only one out of five, 20%. for those who give excuses blaming the rest of the team, coaching, regional differences and blah blah blah, wasn't this what playoffs profit was all about carrying the team no matter what the circumstances? i'm not trying to disregard profit he was so good this season a role star and i actually think he could not have done a lot individually in this 2022 playoffs in particular but he hasn't been showing up in the playoffs recently and that is a fact. i don't understand how people are still glorifying and clinging on to the "playoffs profit mode" when it's only 20%. he is still a very good player but the narrative is realistically more of a hope than belief nowadays.
You know what I actually think this is true. At this point I feel playoffs Profit is somewhat overrated tbh. There are fans who genuinely portray the guy as some kind of a superhero and has the ability that doubles his power in playoffs which I find quite funny.
Beliefs aren't always realistic
He did have a playoff performance but it was for the kickoff clash lol 😅 if you remember the match against Shanghai he carried dynasty over the line - also tbh with Smurf around he shouldn't need to carry anymore imo but who knows what the future holds for dynasty personally I hope it's a championship with profit still there
Tournaments aren’t playoffs tho and this playoffs is on Tobi for panicking after a loss to Dallas and putting him on support during the shock game. He didn’t make playoffs in 2021 despite the team going 12-4. The reason it’s a thing is bc it happened in 2017, 2018, 2020. Yes it didn’t happen this year. The team didn’t get the meta and put him on support as I said, but no other player in the history of owl has gotten a role star in their 5th season and has been good as long. People said he was gonna fall off this season then he proceeds to have one of his best seasons of his career. I blame it on coaching for not adapting when they had the pieces to make it work and figure it out.
@@baseebird more like Based Bird
Pretty sure Seoul ended the year like 3-12 in international playoffs. I'm almost certain they went out 0-6 in Midseason too. Just couldn't compete with both regions together
Butterfinger
Watching platchat with a Butterfinger
ALSO I LITERALLY SAID SEOUL WOULD NOT BEAT ANY TEAM BUT MAYHEM
shock going 4-3 with dallas in a winston/lucio meta will never not be impressive. shock had a far weaker winston and a flex support on lucio, going up against FEARLESS and a lucio specialist in chiyo. and they were SO close to winning. thats CRAZILY impressive.
a 5 day patch means that this tournament was always going to be close… if dallas, glads, or seoul had more time, any of them would have rolled the shock…
Honestly Mikeyy keeping up with fearless was impressive by itself because you know, that’s FEARLESS lol
i dont think violet is a "flex support on lucio" anymore, he's improved a lot
@@Glacier32 on the same side of the coin, if people had more practice and discovered something like a ball meta or even a hog meta, dallas's win isnt as secure now is it?
@@senor135 okay but hes still going against a lucio SPECIALIST like chiyo
I don’t think Reiner had to prove himself again no other tank won to chips this season
speedily just didn't get fucking play. we need to get him back in there.
Just want philly to win something 😔
Philly is more of a 5th season of overwatch league team anyway
Johnny put me on the podcast next week, it'll be good trust
Anyone else wanna see heesang proper next year?
I still can’t even explain the amount of joy imma get from everyone complaining of how unfair our dps line up will be😂😂
@@CGTradez even the tanks as well
im a bit unsure about you not getting anyone to replace the avast poster. Rose? Lemon? Bren and Side? Seagle or Flats? Anyone? Jeff Kaplan?
Get Spilo on!
in tht regard...
Okay, hear me out: revive the 1v1 topic chat format with members
HARDY over Danteh??? Outlaws ware a top team in the Standings. and London Tank who has not done top tear work gets nominated over a DPS player play tank and still Winding games and maps over the best teams and showing that his team could be one of the best...
1:04:28
Did Platchat ask LemonKiwi? I'm sure she had nothing planned. Or is she shadowbanned?
She was at the event and don't know when this was recorded. Probably hanging out with the people who flew in. Probably could of got legday tho since he didn't get to go last moment.
Imo, Lemon has some of the best analysis, but is also a terrible caster. I hope they keep her on the desk next year because I love how she looks at the game, but no more in the booth please. I can't handle the deep breaths into the mic anymore 😅
No offense but I think it was an L leaving out lemonkiwi and keeping Nekkra as a caster for Anaheim. Nekkra makes it so painfully obvious she does not understand the game every time she casts. Most of the time, she makes no sense and waits for Jaws to provide actual insight
2:13:20
Calling shock winning even through the losers bracket a miracle is a bit insane to me considering how good they've been all year and consistent at it their players have been top ten, they had proper the triple award winner... I can not see that as a miracle rather than yup shock following the shock script lol which is why I'm happy they lost I like storylines like fearless or Edison rather than just the expected shock winning it all yet again
It kinda is tho? Like ya theyve been very good all yr.. but like havent won a stage title or anything this season. Plus during the CC stage they probably looked the worse they have been the whole season (altho ig u could argue that a lot of teams let off the gas bcuz the meta was changing for playoffs) and since we didnt really know exactly the playoffs patch going into playoffs everyone was unsure of how good they'd b. I think consensus was top 5, but not winning/grand finalists. Seoul, dallas the more favorites coming in, glads possibly 3rd best chance, and shock/dragons were the kind of outside 4/5th spot chance.
Also i understand the dislike towards shock, but i think ppl keep forgetting that this is almost entirely a whole new squad. Only like 2 out of the 8 players r not rookies and have played for the shock before. It's a pretty crazy run to think about that
@@zayodadong this literally makes no sense, but k
@@NaruBrilu Don’t bother with that person they’re a shock hater, but nobody really expected the Shock to actually make a 2019 playoff run again especially with who they were up against, and once they started rolling through people actually got angry because it’s the Shock and I find that hilarious. Now if this was the same Shock we had from 2019-2021 then I’d understand the whole “shock doing shock things”
@@NaruBrilu they've gotten close to winning, twice. so them getting second place isn't a miracle run, that's what I meant. Them winning would be them finally breaking whatever curse is stopping them from getting to that final step. top 5 is so much better than most teams miracle would imply that it was very unlikely, a miracle is hanzhou charge not sucking tbh and if they made it further, that'd be a miracle run a top contender that had placed second place twice in a year with top quality players isn't a miracle that's like the take reinforce had about shanghai dragons being a dark horse lol when again they're a good team and even if they underperformed, we know what quality they can bring too much quality to really be a dark horse
a two time champion, a runner up of two tournament, top 5 all year, record breaking season win and them getting second is a miracle??? miracle is just outlandish for what they did - they met expectations, top 4 was always the expectation, at least
@@TemariTheKid agreed. More like 2019-2020. Idk it's weird, ig bcuz ppl see shock and go oh same team from 2019. Like aside from 2 players they r almost a completely different team. It's insane that they were able to basically carry on the legacy of the team. Also like during CC they looked the worst they ever were this season, and with the uncertainty of the meta ppl had no idea if they would do well or not. Like probably around top 5, but on the edge of the five was the feeling i had going into the playoffs this year. Like i mentioned b4, dallas and seoul were the 2 favorites over everyone, glads were a close 3rd option, everyone thought the meta was gonna b great for them bcuz of Shu on Kiriko. And then dragons/shock were the kind of outside 4/5 chance of winning it
What's up with all the retirement talk for Dallas they're one of the youngest teams and 1 championship isn't a dynasty I'm sure that's the goal now
they said mainly talking about fearless. which makes sense?
based atlanta take(not the brad part), massive downfall since midseason madness. Couldnt even make Summer Showdown, decent countdown cup except they can't beat the teams that make them contenders, 12th place in playoffs, hmmm.....
And yet custa says “they get top 3 in tournaments” hasn’t happened the last 2 they didn’t even make ss all year people called them a “playoff team” and gave them excuses for their middling reg season that “they would turn up in playoffs it doesn’t matter that their struggling rn playoff Atlanta will show up” and then they proceed to get smoked by Florida twice and are out immediately.
Why does TH-cam think this is a LoL show? lmao
The grand finals was absolutely fantastic; probably the best ever. That said, the playoffs overall? They were not. There was a LOT of 3-0verwatch. The meta shake-up was far too extreme for the amount of time the teams had to prepare. They needed another week or even 2 for the real meta, and appropriate counter-play to be discovered. I think Fuel and Shock were easily among the top 4 or 5 best teams in the league, so I'm not at all disappointed in the grand finals. But the complete lack of hero diversity in comps I think is more a damning commentary on how woefully short a time the teams had to explore the patch than anything else, and the crazy mix up of team power rankings is likely more a product of scrim partners and early comp reads than actual valid placements based on team talent and ability. In short, the league opted to sodomize competitive integrity leading into the playoffs (to perhaps the worst degree we've seen since season 1). But that grand finals game? My god that was some GOOD overwatch. What a game!
A year later and the league is dead. Feelsbadman
Honestly I hate to say it but I really miss Bren and Josh I know they're off doing other things but it really has felt for the longest time somethings been missing.
Sounds like you’re a fan of them both more than Overwatch League
I think the league really messed up by using a franchising model. It was so much better pre OWL. They need to go back to how they did it like League of Legends. When I watch Worlds, there’s never a full moment. From the draft all the way through the match, there’s never a dull moment. I just don’t get excited watching OWL because there’s no cool narratives, Cinderella stories are basically non-existent, and more.
mald
Houston should just grab Super out of retirement and find some prodigy main support out of contenders
butterfinger was a success cause it was so horribly implemented. It stuck like a sore thumb. Why was it poorly COMPED IN instead of shopped into the map texture IN GAME? It looked so fucking junky and bad that it was an instant meme. But if they do it again it will just piss ppl off. Do it properly, make this plank\poster a proper in-game object. it will be cool. and its 30 fucking minutes in blender, wtf?
Dallas deserved it more than shock, but proper deserved it more than Dallas.
You sound like Lemonkiwi
Guess no one worries about spoilers these days cause we weren't finished watching the Grand Finals and guess what video popped up and ruined the surprise...
It's been 4 days. That's kinda on you tbh. You wouldn't expect people to hide the world cup final score or the super bowl
only five days of practice time. one comp. what a joke of a playoffs it was. playoffs should be the grand finale of the year's competition not an improvised new character showcase to sell some more battlepasses.
profit is not the goat please stop
Who is to you?
@@baseebird Violet
@@leto.o5759 pls stop
@@breadandbutter6097 classic 0 iq profit goat defender located
The best finals for the worst season, where the competitive integrity was thrown out window.
What a joke.
My man was ready with this comment
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Competitive integrity out of the window? What do you mean?
@@kingmerpyderp5947 Teams couldn't practice properly for like 70% of the season because they were playing a game that was not out, they could not grind NEW CHARACTERS in ranked. There was no tier 2 to play against. Basically the team that had the most capable players at those meta characters won and the rest couldn't practice or grind to get at the same level. apac had even worse being locked playing each other because they have less teams and even less great teams, plus the usual random playoff patch but in the end i am glad Dallas won. at least we got a great finals.
@@Ratovx the teams and players tried very hard to make this a good season and most of the time did succeed. But indeed the organization of Blizzard was horrendous.
Outlaws beat dallas at every single lan and was routinely winning against shock the entire season. Reinforce and custa need a reality check, y'all treated them like a c-tier team then cried about how twitter users @ u with memes about ur trash preds then had the audacity to pretend like you gave them their props lmao I hope y'all take more L's next season
Outlaws has only beaten Shock twice this whole year wouldn’t call that routinely lol.
this hurt to read.
Y'all ok down there in S TX?
PlatChat not talking about Dallas Fuel winning the whole thing would be so on brand
they only ever gassed up fearless though, no mention of best kiriko fielder or edison going huge in the last two maps
so still very on brand lmao
Cry louder
@@CassCat69 yeah Chiyo low key shoulda been a ROTY candidate for how well he played this year.
@@zayodadong no way you’re real 💀