Imagine having a job were you get to play video games have pretty much every game ,own every system made and watch movies and not even playing them or watching them. Yet continue to milk fanbase as much as possible while they think you actually played or seen the movie your supposed to be reviewing.
@@Frogstomp27 are you hosting a podcast and putting in the absolute bare minimum of effort, expecting it to help you pay your bills and rent by exploiting the good will of your fanbase?
The way James and Cinemassacre has gone downhill lately is depressing. The guy was a true original, an actual innovator. It didn't have to be this way.
It's called getting lazy. And well losing all your friends who did all the hard work for you. James doesn't do anything but read the scripts he's given from a teleprompter. He wants to do the least amount of work and get a nice payday cause he knows he has a core of people who will continue to worship him and any crud he puts out. It's sad.
@@richspeck8932 Lol. Because he literally released a video showing his teleprompter and saying he has screenwave help write and do other things. Then the plagiarism scandal came out and it was revealed he didn't even write the scripts, another dude who worked with Screenwave revealed he wrote 21 of the Monster Madness episodes this year (He was the one that plagiarized). Mike Matei has also revealed he wrote a lot of Nerd episodes. Other TH-camrs and streamers have mentioned it too, that Screenwave pays them to write a Nerd episode and sign an NDA. James doesn't play the games, he doesn't write the episodes (anymore he used to and they used to be better) he just gets a script and reads it from a teleprompter. James is so damn uninterested, you can hear it in his voice. The new Nerd episodes suck. James has run out of passion but wants to collect the checks.
@@Gatorade69 This is news to me. I really had no idea about any of that. Like I said, I've never really been a huge fan, just thought a lot of his videos were funny. I just always find it a little weird when fans turn on people that they've been watching for years. I'm really not trying to defend the guy, but at the same time I really don't see anything wrong with that. It may not be as good as it used to be, but he's obviously still making money and it's not much different than a singer singing songs written by someone else. Although if he doesn't give credit to the people that's a little messed up. I'd love to see the proof of these NDAs though
I feel like the main problem with this podcast (which has been cancelled since this video) was that these guys were coworkers. They weren't friends, they barely knew each other, and never seemed to care to know each other. Also, James has always talked about how he never really cared about video games, and that the Nerd was a character based on Mike Matei.
Well that's the red flag right there. If he doesn't really care about video games then all of his video game related stuff is just forced, but he keeps at it because that's what made him. As far as I know he was always more into movies.
@@radicalcentrist4990 Yeah, he's always been more of a movie guy. I feel like even though he wasn't much of a video game guy, the Nerd still worked for a very long time because they were scripted videos with a lot of help from Mike, the guy that the character was based on, so it felt very natural, even though James was acting. It's become a problem recently because Mike is gone now, and these new guys seem to be more video game guys than movie guys, so they're not useful when it comes to movie-based content, and they can't really go off Mike Matei for the Nerd anymore. So now they just have no idea what to do with a channel that I'm sure they paid a lot of money to purchase.
Yeah there's a huge difference between that. One of my favorite gaming podcasts is the Gonintendo podcast and despite it being specifically situated on Nintendo news all the people there have been best friends for literal decades and have such great synergy and humor with eachother that you could listen to it even without them talking about gaming related stuff. Like I don't even go to the actual site anymore and just listen to the podcast itself because they're just a joy to listen to lol
James Rolfe wasn’t supposed to be the Angry Video Game Nerd after all. While he used to make a great AVGN with his (the Nerd)‘s over-the-top angry humour, this sounds like the very role Mike Matei was born to play (alongside Bugs Bunny, Jason Voorhees, The Cowardly Lion, The Joker, Leatherface, Michael Myers and even a Klingon!) because it was far more up HIS alley than James’s!
@@kieranstark7213 Notice that all of those roles involve costumes and exaggerated voices. Mike wasn't an actor, he didn't want to be on camera, especially not in the starring role, at least not early on. Mike did eventually take over the channel if you remember that, and the videos where he attempted James Rolfe style comedy and special effects are notoriously remembered as terrible videos. However, when he switched to more straightforward reviews, you could see that his tone sounded a lot like James when the nerd would have a more instructional or down to earth section in the review discussing the game mechanics. Since Mike has said that he used to help James with "research" for the games in the early episodes, my theory is that Mike ghostwrote those more informative sections of the AVGN episodes.
This episode alone might have fixed AVGN. Since it, the podcast ended (within weeks of this), Justin seems to have disappeared from the videos, and I wanna say the content theyve made since this has been an improvment. Thanks Karl!
The hate community label, is a smear campaign to make the place look worse than it is. There have been instances of crossing the line, but detractors make it seem like 5000 ppl do what 5 people have done. The real truth, it's a bunch of longtime former fans, industry workers and small youtube channels that are pissed off from being treated like garbage by the hired help and blindly loyal fans
Exactly. Cinemassacre was like an internet revelation for me, Monster Madness was the internet series I looked forward to the most each year, for example. James was a pioneer in these sorts of things on the internet, but he’s so incompetent now that the content has just tanked and it’s clear that he has no passion for this stuff now. It’s sad.
He did AVGN it's his legacy. How is there any surprise he is trying a podcast. Who doesn't have a podcast. There's fucking podcasts about podcasts for how to podcast a fucking podcast. Podcast.
Used to be a fan of James in the old days but after the 100th AVGN episode and the awful AVGN movie it seems it all went to his head. He thought he had finally made it as a movie director only to find out he had to go back to making regular TH-cam videos. That was the moment where he gave up, sold Cinemassacre and started putting in the least amount of effort. Whenever he gets called out for it he starts making up excuses about not having enough time to make videos when making videos is literally his job. The guy doesn't realize how lucky he is.
That's very true. Think about it. You work from home, you work when you want to (mostly). You don't have to get up for work every morning. And yet, you propably earn more than the most of us, who do these things. This guy is damn lucky, wish that was me.
Apparently, it might have been Mike doing a lot of the work with James mostly being the talent. The vibe I get is that when Mike was overwhelmed and tired, he did less work, then James had to either learn how to do the stuff Mike did by himself, or find someone else to do what Mike did, which ended up being the Screenwave guys. You can see it when he talks about the behind-the-scenes stuff. He knows lighting, he knows editing, he knows how cameras work. What he doesn't know is how set up and tear down sets, among other things, because that's what Mike did. That's why when Mike was involved you got the epic fight scenes with the boxes and practical effects, then when he left you got the green screen stuff, and when it was just James in the early days he just sat on his couch. It's not that he doesn't have time, it's that he doesn't want to learn how to do those things that others did for his channel because he has nothing to gain from it, no matter what he'll always be a famous Internet personality.
Overacted and cringe intro narrator, James repeating "uh-huh, mmm, yeah", aimless discussions, bland presenters, an overall lack of energy - and that's just some of the problems. It's no wonder the Cinemassacre Podcast flopped and failed.
This one was painful. I unsubscribed from Cinemassacre shortly after the podcast started. I never watched/listened to any of it because I knew it would be as bland and cringey as the RLM ripoff series they did. After watching one of the newer AVGN episodes, I decided to go back to the old catalog of episodes to see it it was just something I liked because of youth and was always bad or if the new stuff is inferior. The new stuff is totally inferior. What was meant to be just watching three or four old episodes turned into a whole evening. It holds up. It was still funny and enjoyable because there was some guys with talent helping him back in the day. Too bad James screwed them all over leading to them leaving one by one...
I know what you mean, I still go back and binge the originals on occasion. Rental Reviews is such a blatant RLM rip off though so I'm glad they called cinemassacre out for their plagiarism
I don't even want to give his older videos views anymore. Now I see just how much of an ego he has, Mr. Director of over 600 films and now a Rockstar who has been playing guitar for 20 years !
I didn't think rental reviews were that bad because they only had to talk about a movie. Now that they are in a podcast and need to be interesting they totally fail
@@shpoopyshpoop but they couldn't even have a good discussion on those films. James just goes "Yeah, uh huh, mhmm." Justin always says he hated the movie, Kieran just goes "Oh do you remember that scene ?" Tony would take laugh, but at least he tried talking about the films. There was an episode they had Scott the Woz on and James literally gave him a quadruple "Yeah, mhmm, yep, uh huh" and James just came off like a total freaking dick, not even interested with what his guest has to say. It's awful. James is awful, he sucks as a movie reviewer (and director).
Who needs the Cinemassacre podcast? If I wanted to listen to boring people talk about boring shit, I'd go to the bar and eavesdrop on the people's conversation next to me.
@@Gatorade69 The funny part is in the first episode of his podcast somebody asked about Kyle and James said that he wouldn't reply... Kyle straight ghosted James.
I feel so stupid. I've been a fan since 2008 and I don't even know who bootsy is. Who is he? Why do so many people cite him as the glory days? I don't remember an episode with him. The best episodes were James solo, or James with Mike and Kyle.
We ALL love James, but these dumpy neckbeards from screenwave are insufferable and its heartbreaking. Mike at his worst is still better than them at their best.
H3h3, Logan Paul, Keemstar, so many do this. And their fans eat it up. So they make more doing ads for podcasts than making videos that take a lot of work.
IDK I think Pat the NES Punk's CU Podcast is actually pretty good. Himself and Ian always have topics, they don't go off on these tangents like AVGN does, and I find it entertaining. AVGN podcast is just boring garbage. It's like they said in the video boring ramblings that go on and on and go nowhere or add nothing to the overall flow of the show.
The sad thing is that you actually can have an interesting conversation about games, movies and other basic shit if you have anything more interesting to say than "Resident Evil had these zombies and you shoot them and it's scary"
Just brought up the reason why I stopped watching James in the first place, RIGHT THERE lol You remember the RE Survivor review? For a start James doesn't own it, I realised quickly he NEVER played it and then when he started poking holes in bugs that are caused through emulation((which is why they didn't use a G-Con to play it))? I realised he wasn't even looking into the games anymore... its ALL THEM, he is just handed a script gets his cheque and off he goes. They are to be honest useless idiots who have failed upward, they play the games THEY are reviewing for an hour, emulated so its not even finding real bugs anymore, its going after low hanging fruit on the games bugs... its just their greesy humour and it sucks.
@@legalam i kinda love how lame he was, like a childhood friend, i thought that was just his character on the show... and then he started live streaming and doing let's plays... yeah that's just him, not a character at all. :/
Screenwave had one of the biggest booths at RetroWorld Expo and the least amount of traffic. James wasn't there and no one cared to talk to any of these people. It was pretty sad. I don't know why any of them showed up. Complete waste of floor space really.
I've been wondering how many people actually care to see Justin and Kieran. Sounds like the amount I'd have guessed. It is a waste of time for them to show up to cons without James. People want James not Justin and Kieran.
Watch today's podcast. James just strokes his ego and says he's been playing guitar for 20 years even though he can only play a few power chords. What a loser.
They cut like 4 episodes a day so James only has to go in once a month. Its a really terrible idea because they run out of shit to say 10 minutes in and good luck! 5 more hours to go.
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq Yes. They legit changed clothes, and continued filming a different episode. You can even see their cups 🥤 being in the same exact spots between episodes.
I'm starting to think James is seriously on the spectrum. Like, not as an insult, but he's a guy who just goes on long... long talks about random things that nobody else cares about to bizarre detail, and up until now thanks to the heavy editing it felt more like a sharply written character.
The book definitely gave a lot of new hints, and I'm on the spectrum and can recognize this kind of stuff well. In the 5:40 incident for example instead of sending a message to his wife saying he'll be a bit late, he treats it like a deadline and acts nervous throughout the experience.
Well, yeah, he is. I thought this was an open fact, he first talked about special education in the pre 2010 era. It's why the cruelty around him bothers me so much. It's blatant ableism tbh. Not in the sense that they're shitting on a guy who happens to be on the spectrum, but because of the things they think are worth ridicule: his introversion, his failure to read social cues, his poor time management, his bizarre interests and fixations, his mispronunciations, his stutters, his inability to speak extemporaneously, etc; it's like they're literally going through an autism checklist and laughing at each symptom, because each one of these things is directly linked to his autism. Like at a certain point you'd think these guys would be like hey maybe all these things I'm laughing at are pointing to an actual problem and I'm just shitting on that problem, but they usually just laugh even more when they find out he's autistic. Saw a lot "highly regarded autist" jokes on the truth forum.
@@sameash3153 Well, like I said I’m on the spectrum and thus have more right to talk about this topic than most other people. And no, James’ problems don’t come from him being autistic. It seriously looks like he just got more incompetent/lazy throughout the years. He has the dream job of millions of people, all he needs to do is play games, write funny jokes and throw a sponsor at the start of a video. That’s it. And he was great at doing that for years without a budget. He’s still able to do it, just look at the Last Ninja episode that was amazing. But instead he hires those douchebags that do all the cookie cutter job for him. I know his ultimate dream was to be a director, but the AVGN movie just proved he’s better at recording himself punching someone in a Bugs Bunny costume rather than making real cinema. It feels like he’s ungrateful for all the luck he had at being an internet celebrity, and treats fans like idiots that will buy these stupid excuses about “time”. Though the people in the truth subreddit do act like dumbasses quite often. Sometimes they’ll just mock James for what he’s wearing in a photo or something like that, and this is not constructive criticism in any way. This behavior just gives weight to James’ argument about the “asshole variety” and does more harm than good. The decline of AVGN has little to do with James’ disorder and he deserves the criticism, but some people will just act like monkeys in this situation and give the rest of critics a bad rep.
Their podcast was painful to listen to because it was 3 guys talking over each other. It’s hard to follow what is being said. The podcast could’ve been fixed had they even tried.
Been of fan of James' since 06, I'm 20 mins into this and you guys have hit the nail on the head. The dive his channel took recently is ridiculous and the podcast is an absolute joke. No joke every critique you've all said so far is exactly, EXACTLY how I felt listening to that crap. 20mins of this has been better then their entire podcast run so far. When you said you may win over some of the "haters", you were not wrong, I'm sticking around lol.
I'll always love James Rolfe. I will still follow him. But there is no denying that these new guys he has are completely killing everything that was good about the channel.
They technically are his boss, since they pay him. It's all on James because he wanted to hand over production duties to Screenwave and take a paycheck from them.
They suck but James is just as guilty he literally wrote all of the scripts Freon this year and this year was absolutely the WORST one to date so the guy had just stopped caring or just lost his comedic touch and stuff to talk about it’s pathetic but at least his old vids still slap
Every "artists" work eventually gets stale. If He's was still as worried about, and able to, put out great content he wouldn't be working with these guys.
I love how the opening is trying to hype up the podcast like it's some incredible rollercoaster lead by rockstars, but in reality it's a snoozefest with a bunch charisma black holes in it. No BTS stuff, no interesting stories, no interesting topics. They could've talk about the old AVGN and Board James episodes, ffs. I guess James didn't want to mention his friends and crew he fired long time ago. All we left are some talentless randos and bored James.
It’s depressing 😣AVGN used to be one of my favorite things to watch period. It’s now a shell of its former self and it’s really sad. They should just stop doing it and let it die instead of continuing with its lifeless corpse. R.I.P. AVGN P.S. Rex Viper is pure concentrated cringe
Like it makes callbacks to previous nerd episodes every single time now, & it doesn't help that these fat nerds are writing the episodes & not you know James Rolfe
@@ama-ri_vox I wouldn't call the singer a nobody, he seems to be been around the nerd music scene for a while. I've been out of the loop for a while though so idk. Used to be in the nerd music scene pretty big, and he seems vaguely familiar to me. I can't see James as a singer though so it's probably for the best that he isn't.
It's his primary income, he CAN'T stop it, he has to keep it alive no matter what. His other passion apart from gaming didn't take off nearly as much, his love for horror movies in particular, the board games and 'you know what's bullshit' franchises both are great, but more of the same old ingredient that made him succesfull. But as long as James draws breath, AVGN isn't going away. His soul for this project has long left, it's just a regular job now to him and it shows.
James best years are behind him. He has used up all his nostalgia which is what he was know for. AVGN is just there now just to make money. There is no passion anymore. Go watch his older Ninja Gaiden video then compare it to a modern AVGN. It is such a night and day difference. You can see James has no passion for any of his videos anymore. He just does it for the money. I feel sorry for him as he has talent and could have been a big time director, his movie could have paved the way if it was anything but the AVGN movie. The entire idea was stupid. He literally could have done anything else and it would have turned out better. Now his confidence is shot and he just goes through the motions. James needs to get back on his horse and try again, every big time director has their flops.. Lucas had THX 1138, Carpenter had Dark Star, Cameron had Piranha 2, Spielberg had 1941. It happens to the best of them. James needs to get his ass back out there and try again.
The rex viper videos seem like the "coming out of your shell tour"that James talked about with doug walker a few years ago...anybody else getting those vibes?
You guys should listen to when AVGN was on Opie and Anthony and it was as awkward and uncomfortable as you'd expect. James has literally nothing to say, they don't give a shit about anything, it's so bad
I always thought James had a regular job because he always said how busy he was. If his only jov is AVGN then there's no excuse for being lazy. Even the James and Mike Mondays were absolutely lazy and half-assed, you could tell James wasn't into it at all.
He acts like he’s the only person ever with a spouse and two kids. There’s nothing more boring than listening to someone pretend to be a martyr because they have a family.
He just deplores what he stands for, but thats okay, part of life. The problem is that its his livelihood, good money to provide a good life for his family. It must be hell, jeez
@@bramiwami Exactly. At least James can put some effort into it. If he's going to milk the Nerd as much as possible. James doesn't like video games , didn't watch the movies he reviewed on rental reviews. James could even find the time to watch the movie they were going to talk about
The last episode I listened to Kieran was hammered off whiskey and beer it was very awkward, I only made about 50% before turning it off. James just doesn't seem interested in video games or nostalgia, he only smiles when he talks about his kids I think he wants to live that Dad life which I 100% respect.
He's stuck in his own personal Hell. And he has no one to blame but himself for allowing Screenwave to swoop in, take over Cinemassacre and make everything go to absolute shit!
@@DreFromMaine8472 It’s sad. In the pre-AVGN movie era, Cinemassacre was a site and a brand that celebrated films and the art of filmmaking. AVGN never really had a big presence on the site. Yeah, it was his most popular project, but James always treated it like a side project. Nowadays, Cinemassacre means nothing, stands for nothing, and is just a name. The whole site has been restructured around the Nerd, Nerd related videos, or the Screenwave guys. Anything that had to do with filmmaking, or his passion for filmmaking has been scrubbed clean.
@@VideoGameAutopsy Exactly. Because years ago, his biggest passion was filmmaking and video game reviewing was always a distant second. Personally, I've always preferred his AVGN game reviews to his films. But now? It's just like you said. The abject failure of his movie, which he charged his fans money to see, has destroyed his passion for writing and making any more films. Because it bombed, he will no longer take any more risks, because he's terrified of failure. So he'll just stick with what has proven popular and continue to crank out more AVGN, regardless of quality or entertainment value. Which leads me back to what I originally said: the man is now stuck in his own personal Hell. With a wife and two kids to support on top of that. And as a result, he no longer "has time". It is what it is.
Ironically, I was watching Monster Madness vids and this video appeared. And I have a couple things to say to you, guys... AT LAST! SOMEONE POINTS IT OUT! First, I must say I've been an AVGN fan since he was the Angry Nintendo Nerd, ages ago. James built a solid and awesome channel from scratch. It was nice see him including his likes (as his taste for horror and movies overall) and succeding in doing so. I'm no hater; all the way around. BUT Since those fat dudes took over, it's plain sad seeing him minimished; they interrupt him to say some stupid thing and he's like: "Yeah, yeah." It's depressing dude. It would be fine if they like, make a very intelligent or clever comment or shed light with priceless knowledge but no, they spit some empty argument and we all are like: Huh? I stopped watching these new Cinemassacre's videos when those fat guys started, first appearing and then talking about their lives, likes or whatsoever; I'm here for James! Who the heck are you? Anyway, I just hope James stumbles with this video and realizes what's going on. Because the consensus on internet forums and even Facebook is that Cinemassacre's is dying and rotting and not because of James, but of external individuals who weren't there when Cinemassacre was built by James. I still watch Cinemassacre's OLD vids really often; it's cool to watch when James did this for passion; when Cinemasscre was a team of friends having fun. And not a bunch of unkown retards talking bs. Peace out.
First time listener! Pleasantly surprised at the quality, the chemistry of the hosts and the work put in (eg the agreement compilation) and the conversation if focused and goes point-by-point. Even as an AVGN fan it was hilarious. Great job!
Love to see my favorite 2 channels just being marks for each other, I suppose james would be as he did was wrestling at one time as indicated by his wrestling games review. Yes Saturday night slammasters is 2nd best wrestling game next to here comes the pain
Unintentional comedy gold. A pretty large chunk of his fanbase is on the reddit making his content actually funny. The podcast is much more entertaining after FilmTrek does his edits.
James tainted his legacy. It ended with the movie. He took everyone’s money for a shitty self-mastubatory movie, threw everything into it and when he didn’t get famous like he thought he would, and realized he’d either have to get a normal job or sell out the nerd forever, he chose the latter. Ps I totally lost it when the Homer saying boring clip kept coming in! Lol
I recently unsubbed from Cinemassacre. Rex Viper is awful, and the podcast is fucking terrible. I was going to ask you to do an episode on this, but you did. They did two episodes with Brad Jones and Doug Walker and they were just talking about stories at conventions they would go to. It is the most boring podcast ever and they need to stop it. I am getting secondhand embarrassment watching it.
@Daniel Evensen Funny part is I was watching that in the background while cleaning and I missed that comment. The channel has declined. The only people winning are the guys from screenwave. unfunny hacks that now own a channel that generates half a million a year.
I used to be a huge AVGN fan back when he was new. I had no idea this podcast even existed and I will not be listening. Thanks for bringing this garbage to my attention so I can quickly forget about it.
I knew something was off when I listened to James and the gangs podcast but you really hit all the reasons why. To me it just seemed like a bunch of member berries.
I don't hate James or anything, but man.. After all the facade of being a "gamer" that we all got caught up until the recent years. Seeing how petty and pathetic is the person behind the facade of "the angry video game nerd" leaves me totally speechless. I admired this guy so much in the past, and well, he is just in crumbles now.
The fact that his whole career is playing videogames he is extremely bad at them. James saying he couldn't get passed the 1st RE2 screen was just sad. The fact he doesn't even care about videos games ,has a collection that people would kill for and doesn't even use any of is just embarrassing. I get muh kids but he can't play some cool original neo geo game for 45 mins a day when you work from home.
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq he plays old stuff though, the stuff he grew up with. The NES era. He doesn't care as much about the PS games. His collection IS all old stuff.
I remember when they first did the podcast. I did notice right away that they kept on habitually saying "yeah" to the point where I was cringing every other time they said the word.
Yeah these guys are right. He's no better than millli vanilli at this point. Plagiarism is the same as lip syncing someone elses songs. I don't care if he didn't write it, it's his damn show and he was the draw. Dude is cashing checks and banking on his fan's stupidity.
TheCinemassacreTruth isn't really a hate community. I mean there are some nasty people that pop up, but most of us are just people who have been around since the beginning and the community formed due to the original subreddit being heavily censored and all channel controversy and criticism wasn't allowed. Then it snowballed over the years to gain more and more traction each time they fucked up. The Monster Madness incident was a huge driving force.
I believe cinenassacre deleted negative to critisim comments on their channel that's why the dislikes is growing on their channel and why it seems like only "positive" comments are left
you have to watch the doug walker episode where kieran shows up hungover and makes everyone's skin crawl with his weird drinking stories that would sound cool if they where being told by a college freshman but when they come from a boomer like him who's clinging to his youth in a perpetual echo chamber it comes off as pathethic
All podcasts are shit. It's lazy content meant to be pumped out with minimum work. It would take a couple hours to edit most podcasts into decent TH-cam videos.
It's kinda ironic that the largest man on the crew is the most leech-like, hes not funny, and only ever comes off as if hes only around these guys because he either invited himself or they invited him out of pity
The problem I find is that there is no chemistry whatsoever between James and the screenwave crew. Half the time either James will talk about what he is passionate about or he is silent while the others rant about nonsense. If James would stick to being on the podcast by himself and having a guest star or a regular then it would probably be alot better. As far as Rex viper goes...yeesh. I'm not a fan but they are having fun. I still watch avgn. It's been meh here and there but you can't keep amazing content going forever.
The podcast is just unlistenable. And his friends are terrible. Even Mike and Jay had a very rocky start with half in the bag. They had to prove their worth and earn their fans. And they did because the two of them are fun, funny, they have interesting topics and interesting takes on those topics. James and his friends are just so boring. Mike Matei is better in every measure. Mike has gotten way better on his streams. Him and Ryan also started doing a podcast, but they do it so sparingly, and it's genuinely better than James podcast. If you want good old video game stuff, check out Mike Matei or "U Can Beat Video Games".
Yeah, I tried to get into it, but you're right, the podcasts are boring, have no central theme, it's literally random shit and just boring. I mean, even for a random 'shoot-the-shit' podcast you have to come in with at least 1 or 2 main topics you want to cover, and you also need people good at having one story lead to the next and so forth. I have a small channel and do a podcast too, and let me tell ya, a LOT of it for the editing side is editing out the long silences, all the extra 'ums' and editing out when someone loses connection and we're waiting for them to come back on and stuff like that. Then again, my podcast is about wrestling, so it already has a theme, and even when we go on tangents, it's still related to wrestling or wrestlers.
Avgn will always have a very special place in my heart, great mix of humour and nostalgia. Ever since he branched out into making more content, it's never been the same. Still, I wish James and his family the best going forward
Ever since he brought in those zilches to co host that dumb video store review show it's been pretty embarrassing. I still like AVGN videos but but the other content is worthless.
AVGN is just going through the motions the last idk 5-6 years maybe more .. when he was younger it was hilarious u could tell he was actually pissed off like the Jekyll Mr Hyde review or at least he put his heart into making the script funny… now it’s like he’s still saying the same things but it’s with no passion and u can tell it’s totally scripted but I guess hes what like 40 something.. so now when u die in Donkey Kong you probably aren’t going to go on curse word laden rant..
@@Jrh-rp7np It's hard to show emotions when you haven't played the game (and or watched the movie) and are just reading a script. James is a rockstar now. No time for video games or even Harrer movies.
@@Gatorade69 I guess it's like when you know a show has gone downhill but you still watch here and there cause you like the characters/format. I know it's not what it used to be and its not like I watch every new one ASAP like in the old days but my main point was that I still enjoy James but hate these fat slobs that he brought in to sit there and add nothing.
I think one issue is some people like Angry Video Game Nerd and some people like all of James Rolfe's content. Like, I enjoy AVGN, Board James, and Monster Madness, I can just listen to James talk about movies for hours, but some people have higher AVGN level expectations. My biggest issue with the podcast is Justin cutting off, talking over, and essentially acting like an on screen producer all the time. That plus the guests have been pretty lacking. If they REALLY wanted the podcast to blow up they'd do an episode with James, Kyle Justin, Bootsy, and Mike. People would tune in to see/hear the old crew talk old times, what they're upto now, and go over how things got to where they are.
That's true. James can go hours talking about old horror movies, editing equipment and cameras and stuff, but when it's unplanned, random just, whatever off the top of your head kinda stuff, he doesn't know what to say. And I figure he can't talk about the stuff he actually can go in-depth about because well, there's separate videos for that. The other guys being boring and not knowing what to talk about also make it even worse.
Everything these guys said about the current state of cinemassacre is just spot on, bottom line once James and mike stopped running the channel and screen shitty media took over, it all went down the shitter, ie 2018 onwards
I unsubbed from Cinnemassacre around 2 years ago. James Rolfe has been phoning it in for years now. His old stuff is good and people have nostalgia goggles on with him which is why he's still getting viewers because for the past, what, 4 years, his content has been TERRIBLE.
Lmfao, about died laughing at the comment about the new guys being cardboard cutouts, nothing going on there. You've gained a new sub. And I've been subbed to avgn since 2007.
I watch their new podcast... and it seems like the co-hosts are better at long-form talk than James is. James is great at scripting and acting stuff out. That being said, his new series of videos of him getting emotional while reading fan letters on how much he's helped them is a little douchey, and feels like he's patting himself on the back. Also, the new music stuff is pretty cringy with his band. I think it's cool that he takes up that hobby, but it should be on a separate channel... nothing worse than nerds trying to act badass playing video game metal lol.
@@pattipooh What you think my comment is overtly negative ? Only negative thing I said was "He puts out crap" and yes that's my opinion is that his newer content is bad. The teleprompter thing is real so that isn't negative. I don't get what your getting at. I'm letting people know just how bad the channel has gotten. I mean you say overtly negative but the very guy is constantly negative, making shit joke and telling companies that they put out shit. I can do the very same.
@@pattipooh it's not negative, it's true. He outsourced the gaming portion and the script writing for videos. He just records and poorly acts while reading from a teleprompter and it shows. It would be fine if the videos were good but they're boring, half-baked, and poorly acted now. James' creativity is disconnected from the new videos. Compare a season 2 or 3 or 4 video to his new content. It's BEEEEE ESSSSS
Finding out that James Rolfe barely cares about videogames is like an adult version of finding out Santa Claus isnt real
"my 8 year old kid knows alot more about videogames then i do"
- The Angry Video Game Nerd
Imagine having a job were you get to play video games have pretty much every game ,own every system made and watch movies and not even playing them or watching them. Yet continue to milk fanbase as much as possible while they think you actually played or seen the movie your supposed to be reviewing.
Motherfucker Mike is the real angry video game nerd.
The "yeah" compilation is incredible
Did not expect to find you here LMAO. Love ur vids. Too funny always.
Literally amazing.
Loved your Star Wars breakdowns
yeah mmmhm
It made my head start to spin. I thought I was having a heart issue or something for the first 3 or so seconds.
The harsh truth is that outside of his character he's just an incredibly boring dude.
I don't fault him for that, I am too, honestly
@@Frogstomp27 are you hosting a podcast and putting in the absolute bare minimum of effort, expecting it to help you pay your bills and rent by exploiting the good will of your fanbase?
@@veg411 That I fault him for
Wrong, i like his solo Movie reviews way better than avgn
"The Cinemassacre Podcast but every time they say something boring it gets 10% faster." Bruh I am deceased. 😂
Ouch. This one hurts. Not because it's critical of Cinemassacre, but because it's true.
As I fan I was trying to like it, and then realized I was lying to myself by saying its fine. Its not, its SO boring.
The way James and Cinemassacre has gone downhill lately is depressing. The guy was a true original, an actual innovator. It didn't have to be this way.
It's called getting lazy. And well losing all your friends who did all the hard work for you. James doesn't do anything but read the scripts he's given from a teleprompter. He wants to do the least amount of work and get a nice payday cause he knows he has a core of people who will continue to worship him and any crud he puts out. It's sad.
@@Gatorade69 100% on that, man.
@@Gatorade69 Dude, I'm really not a huge AVGN or Cinemassacre fan, but how could you possibly know that? I'm pretty sure he writes most of his stuff.
@@richspeck8932 Lol. Because he literally released a video showing his teleprompter and saying he has screenwave help write and do other things. Then the plagiarism scandal came out and it was revealed he didn't even write the scripts, another dude who worked with Screenwave revealed he wrote 21 of the Monster Madness episodes this year (He was the one that plagiarized). Mike Matei has also revealed he wrote a lot of Nerd episodes. Other TH-camrs and streamers have mentioned it too, that Screenwave pays them to write a Nerd episode and sign an NDA. James doesn't play the games, he doesn't write the episodes (anymore he used to and they used to be better) he just gets a script and reads it from a teleprompter. James is so damn uninterested, you can hear it in his voice. The new Nerd episodes suck. James has run out of passion but wants to collect the checks.
@@Gatorade69 This is news to me. I really had no idea about any of that. Like I said, I've never really been a huge fan, just thought a lot of his videos were funny. I just always find it a little weird when fans turn on people that they've been watching for years. I'm really not trying to defend the guy, but at the same time I really don't see anything wrong with that. It may not be as good as it used to be, but he's obviously still making money and it's not much different than a singer singing songs written by someone else. Although if he doesn't give credit to the people that's a little messed up. I'd love to see the proof of these NDAs though
Intercutting AVGN vulgarity every time James or one of the slobcast hosts says something lame is so fucking good.
Holy fuck ur that guy from twitter i know!!!
@@lindykerry8209 Yeah.
I feel like the main problem with this podcast (which has been cancelled since this video) was that these guys were coworkers. They weren't friends, they barely knew each other, and never seemed to care to know each other.
Also, James has always talked about how he never really cared about video games, and that the Nerd was a character based on Mike Matei.
Well that's the red flag right there. If he doesn't really care about video games then all of his video game related stuff is just forced, but he keeps at it because that's what made him. As far as I know he was always more into movies.
@@radicalcentrist4990 Yeah, he's always been more of a movie guy. I feel like even though he wasn't much of a video game guy, the Nerd still worked for a very long time because they were scripted videos with a lot of help from Mike, the guy that the character was based on, so it felt very natural, even though James was acting.
It's become a problem recently because Mike is gone now, and these new guys seem to be more video game guys than movie guys, so they're not useful when it comes to movie-based content, and they can't really go off Mike Matei for the Nerd anymore. So now they just have no idea what to do with a channel that I'm sure they paid a lot of money to purchase.
Yeah there's a huge difference between that. One of my favorite gaming podcasts is the Gonintendo podcast and despite it being specifically situated on Nintendo news all the people there have been best friends for literal decades and have such great synergy and humor with eachother that you could listen to it even without them talking about gaming related stuff. Like I don't even go to the actual site anymore and just listen to the podcast itself because they're just a joy to listen to lol
James Rolfe wasn’t supposed to be the Angry Video Game Nerd after all. While he used to make a great AVGN with his (the Nerd)‘s over-the-top angry humour, this sounds like the very role Mike Matei was born to play (alongside Bugs Bunny, Jason Voorhees, The Cowardly Lion, The Joker, Leatherface, Michael Myers and even a Klingon!) because it was far more up HIS alley than James’s!
@@kieranstark7213 Notice that all of those roles involve costumes and exaggerated voices. Mike wasn't an actor, he didn't want to be on camera, especially not in the starring role, at least not early on. Mike did eventually take over the channel if you remember that, and the videos where he attempted James Rolfe style comedy and special effects are notoriously remembered as terrible videos.
However, when he switched to more straightforward reviews, you could see that his tone sounded a lot like James when the nerd would have a more instructional or down to earth section in the review discussing the game mechanics. Since Mike has said that he used to help James with "research" for the games in the early episodes, my theory is that Mike ghostwrote those more informative sections of the AVGN episodes.
James doesn’t have time to stop the podcast.
Lol
5:40
This episode alone might have fixed AVGN. Since it, the podcast ended (within weeks of this), Justin seems to have disappeared from the videos, and I wanna say the content theyve made since this has been an improvment.
Thanks Karl!
We’re not a hate community. We just want James to make content worth subscribing for. And he’s failed at doing that.
Wrong! We want him to fulfill his lolcow destiny.
Not anymore.
The hate community label, is a smear campaign to make the place look worse than it is. There have been instances of crossing the line, but detractors make it seem like 5000 ppl do what 5 people have done.
The real truth, it's a bunch of longtime former fans, industry workers and small youtube channels that are pissed off from being treated like garbage by the hired help and blindly loyal fans
Exactly. Cinemassacre was like an internet revelation for me, Monster Madness was the internet series I looked forward to the most each year, for example. James was a pioneer in these sorts of things on the internet, but he’s so incompetent now that the content has just tanked and it’s clear that he has no passion for this stuff now. It’s sad.
He did AVGN it's his legacy. How is there any surprise he is trying a podcast. Who doesn't have a podcast. There's fucking podcasts about podcasts for how to podcast a fucking podcast.
Podcast.
People who act like watching Rick and Morty is a personality
Yeah, hmmm, yeah, yeah, I agree, uhah, yeah, 100%, yeah, yeah, definitely, yeah.
Used to be a fan of James in the old days but after the 100th AVGN episode and the awful AVGN movie it seems it all went to his head. He thought he had finally made it as a movie director only to find out he had to go back to making regular TH-cam videos. That was the moment where he gave up, sold Cinemassacre and started putting in the least amount of effort. Whenever he gets called out for it he starts making up excuses about not having enough time to make videos when making videos is literally his job. The guy doesn't realize how lucky he is.
That's very true. Think about it. You work from home, you work when you want to (mostly). You don't have to get up for work every morning. And yet, you propably earn more than the most of us, who do these things.
This guy is damn lucky, wish that was me.
Apparently, it might have been Mike doing a lot of the work with James mostly being the talent.
The vibe I get is that when Mike was overwhelmed and tired, he did less work, then James had to either learn how to do the stuff Mike did by himself, or find someone else to do what Mike did, which ended up being the Screenwave guys.
You can see it when he talks about the behind-the-scenes stuff. He knows lighting, he knows editing, he knows how cameras work. What he doesn't know is how set up and tear down sets, among other things, because that's what Mike did.
That's why when Mike was involved you got the epic fight scenes with the boxes and practical effects, then when he left you got the green screen stuff, and when it was just James in the early days he just sat on his couch. It's not that he doesn't have time, it's that he doesn't want to learn how to do those things that others did for his channel because he has nothing to gain from it, no matter what he'll always be a famous Internet personality.
I use to be fan bubububub are bitch going to cryyy😊
Cinemassacre's podcast is one of the worst I've seen in a long time.
Overacted and cringe intro narrator, James repeating "uh-huh, mmm, yeah", aimless discussions, bland presenters, an overall lack of energy - and that's just some of the problems. It's no wonder the Cinemassacre Podcast flopped and failed.
No passion
This one was painful.
I unsubscribed from Cinemassacre shortly after the podcast started. I never watched/listened to any of it because I knew it would be as bland and cringey as the RLM ripoff series they did. After watching one of the newer AVGN episodes, I decided to go back to the old catalog of episodes to see it it was just something I liked because of youth and was always bad or if the new stuff is inferior. The new stuff is totally inferior. What was meant to be just watching three or four old episodes turned into a whole evening. It holds up. It was still funny and enjoyable because there was some guys with talent helping him back in the day. Too bad James screwed them all over leading to them leaving one by one...
I know what you mean, I still go back and binge the originals on occasion. Rental Reviews is such a blatant RLM rip off though so I'm glad they called cinemassacre out for their plagiarism
I don't even want to give his older videos views anymore. Now I see just how much of an ego he has, Mr. Director of over 600 films and now a Rockstar who has been playing guitar for 20 years !
@@Gatorade69 that and a bunch of ppl has their material stolen
I didn't think rental reviews were that bad because they only had to talk about a movie. Now that they are in a podcast and need to be interesting they totally fail
@@shpoopyshpoop but they couldn't even have a good discussion on those films. James just goes "Yeah, uh huh, mhmm." Justin always says he hated the movie, Kieran just goes "Oh do you remember that scene ?" Tony would take laugh, but at least he tried talking about the films.
There was an episode they had Scott the Woz on and James literally gave him a quadruple "Yeah, mhmm, yep, uh huh" and James just came off like a total freaking dick, not even interested with what his guest has to say. It's awful. James is awful, he sucks as a movie reviewer (and director).
Who needs the Cinemassacre podcast? If I wanted to listen to boring people talk about boring shit, I'd go to the bar and eavesdrop on the people's conversation next to me.
I was laughing hysterically when he compared the intro against the most boring intro in the world 😂
Cinemassace started going down when Bootsy left and now it is awful
Bootsy was never paid. Either was Kyle who wrote the damn theme song and built the sets. James is a hack.
@@Gatorade69 The funny part is in the first episode of his podcast somebody asked about Kyle and James said that he wouldn't reply... Kyle straight ghosted James.
mike leaving was the final nail in the coffin
@@professorpenne9962 Mike left? Oh yeah, Cinemassacre is dead. I had no idea that Mike left but it all makes sense now
I feel so stupid. I've been a fan since 2008 and I don't even know who bootsy is. Who is he? Why do so many people cite him as the glory days? I don't remember an episode with him. The best episodes were James solo, or James with Mike and Kyle.
We ALL love James, but these dumpy neckbeards from screenwave are insufferable and its heartbreaking. Mike at his worst is still better than them at their best.
Agreed I never liked Mike until those guys came along. Now I miss his input on the site.
This the downfall of every long time youtuber. When they start a podcast! I wouldn't be surprised if they start talking about politics soon!
H3h3 route
@@Jonqen totally! When they start podcasts it either goes political or they go paranormal and talk about UFOs or something!
@@JVM485 honestly no one cares about their political or supernatural opinion I hate when they bring that stuff up. I’m agreeing with you.
H3h3, Logan Paul, Keemstar, so many do this. And their fans eat it up. So they make more doing ads for podcasts than making videos that take a lot of work.
IDK I think Pat the NES Punk's CU Podcast is actually pretty good. Himself and Ian always have topics, they don't go off on these tangents like AVGN does, and I find it entertaining. AVGN podcast is just boring garbage. It's like they said in the video boring ramblings that go on and on and go nowhere or add nothing to the overall flow of the show.
The sad thing is that you actually can have an interesting conversation about games, movies and other basic shit if you have anything more interesting to say than "Resident Evil had these zombies and you shoot them and it's scary"
Just brought up the reason why I stopped watching James in the first place, RIGHT THERE lol You remember the RE Survivor review? For a start James doesn't own it, I realised quickly he NEVER played it and then when he started poking holes in bugs that are caused through emulation((which is why they didn't use a G-Con to play it))? I realised he wasn't even looking into the games anymore... its ALL THEM, he is just handed a script gets his cheque and off he goes. They are to be honest useless idiots who have failed upward, they play the games THEY are reviewing for an hour, emulated so its not even finding real bugs anymore, its going after low hanging fruit on the games bugs... its just their greesy humour and it sucks.
I missed the days with Mike, Kyle and Bootsy. Kyle was my favorite out of everyone
Scrotum gun
I never liked Mike tbh
He was unfunny and then there was this shit about his dikpic.
And then later that awful comic came out that he made.
@@legalam i kinda love how lame he was, like a childhood friend, i thought that was just his character on the show... and then he started live streaming and doing let's plays... yeah that's just him, not a character at all. :/
@@legalam his character roles like the Joker and stuff were always fun but otherwise yeah I get him being annoying.
Yeah the Podcast sounds a good idea with the Og Cinemassacre cast
Never thought I'd hear Alex Jones talking about AVGN 👏
I’m hearing Greeze from the Jedi video games lol
More like Artie lange
I agree with these guys, but they're really obnoxious.
Screenwave had one of the biggest booths at RetroWorld Expo and the least amount of traffic. James wasn't there and no one cared to talk to any of these people. It was pretty sad. I don't know why any of them showed up. Complete waste of floor space really.
If by sad you mean fucking hysterical and well deserved then I'm in complete agreement.
Sad crusty Justy behind the booth.
Same for Too Many Games, which is funny considering I believe Justin is one of the organizers
I've been wondering how many people actually care to see Justin and Kieran. Sounds like the amount I'd have guessed. It is a waste of time for them to show up to cons without James. People want James not Justin and Kieran.
Photo?
I unsubbed from AVGN a while ago. It's just as relevant as planking.
You're about as relevant as a carrier pigeon
I thought I was at a Rob Zombie concert with all the "Yeah" getting thrown around
Not to mention that James is a big fan of Zombie...
It's truly awful, boring, hacky and self-indulgent.
Watch today's podcast. James just strokes his ego and says he's been playing guitar for 20 years even though he can only play a few power chords. What a loser.
@@Gatorade69 don't forget his statement about games.
@@Gatorade69 You need another hobby except shitting on James in every comment here. It's a boring read.
@@Android18DBS Then why do you read it ? No ones forcing you to read it. It's free comments. Besides I'm just having fun, ever heard of it ?
@@Gatorade69 Fun to constantly crap on someone who supposedly saved your life? Okay.
I cannot stress enough how spot on this is. Cinemassacre podcast is absolute garbage.
If they got rid of that fat dude and that long haired dude, replaced them with Doug Walker that would do it wonders. I still like James's solo videos.
replace shit with more shit?
@@ict113090 Doug Walker? Hahaha, you actually like that guy? Christ, that's embarrassing.
@@ict113090James has no personality though so he needs people that talk
They cut like 4 episodes a day so James only has to go in once a month. Its a really terrible idea because they run out of shit to say 10 minutes in and good luck! 5 more hours to go.
Yeah that's a terrible way to do a podcast in general. Bores the hell out of me too...
Is that true? They film multiple podcast a day?
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq most of the “big” podcasts do this. These people don’t want to work, so they come in and do 2 or 3 and wait a few weeks and o more.
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq Yes. They legit changed clothes, and continued filming a different episode.
You can even see their cups 🥤 being in the same exact spots between episodes.
"Yeah...mmhmm...wow"
Yup… uh huh… *checks phone* “Rex Viper.”
I'm starting to think James is seriously on the spectrum. Like, not as an insult, but he's a guy who just goes on long... long talks about random things that nobody else cares about to bizarre detail, and up until now thanks to the heavy editing it felt more like a sharply written character.
The book definitely gave a lot of new hints, and I'm on the spectrum and can recognize this kind of stuff well. In the 5:40 incident for example instead of sending a message to his wife saying he'll be a bit late, he treats it like a deadline and acts nervous throughout the experience.
Well, yeah, he is. I thought this was an open fact, he first talked about special education in the pre 2010 era. It's why the cruelty around him bothers me so much. It's blatant ableism tbh. Not in the sense that they're shitting on a guy who happens to be on the spectrum, but because of the things they think are worth ridicule: his introversion, his failure to read social cues, his poor time management, his bizarre interests and fixations, his mispronunciations, his stutters, his inability to speak extemporaneously, etc; it's like they're literally going through an autism checklist and laughing at each symptom, because each one of these things is directly linked to his autism. Like at a certain point you'd think these guys would be like hey maybe all these things I'm laughing at are pointing to an actual problem and I'm just shitting on that problem, but they usually just laugh even more when they find out he's autistic. Saw a lot "highly regarded autist" jokes on the truth forum.
@@sameash3153 Well, like I said I’m on the spectrum and thus have more right to talk about this topic than most other people. And no, James’ problems don’t come from him being autistic. It seriously looks like he just got more incompetent/lazy throughout the years. He has the dream job of millions of people, all he needs to do is play games, write funny jokes and throw a sponsor at the start of a video. That’s it. And he was great at doing that for years without a budget. He’s still able to do it, just look at the Last Ninja episode that was amazing. But instead he hires those douchebags that do all the cookie cutter job for him. I know his ultimate dream was to be a director, but the AVGN movie just proved he’s better at recording himself punching someone in a Bugs Bunny costume rather than making real cinema. It feels like he’s ungrateful for all the luck he had at being an internet celebrity, and treats fans like idiots that will buy these stupid excuses about “time”.
Though the people in the truth subreddit do act like dumbasses quite often. Sometimes they’ll just mock James for what he’s wearing in a photo or something like that, and this is not constructive criticism in any way. This behavior just gives weight to James’ argument about the “asshole variety” and does more harm than good. The decline of AVGN has little to do with James’ disorder and he deserves the criticism, but some people will just act like monkeys in this situation and give the rest of critics a bad rep.
THINK!?!
@@bulb9970 That's because his wife abuses him if he isn't watching the kids at 5:40 on the dot. He knew he was getting his nuts crunched.
Their podcast was painful to listen to because it was 3 guys talking over each other. It’s hard to follow what is being said. The podcast could’ve been fixed had they even tried.
Been of fan of James' since 06, I'm 20 mins into this and you guys have hit the nail on the head. The dive his channel took recently is ridiculous and the podcast is an absolute joke. No joke every critique you've all said so far is exactly, EXACTLY how I felt listening to that crap. 20mins of this has been better then their entire podcast run so far. When you said you may win over some of the "haters", you were not wrong, I'm sticking around lol.
I'll always love James Rolfe. I will still follow him. But there is no denying that these new guys he has are completely killing everything that was good about the channel.
They technically are his boss, since they pay him. It's all on James because he wanted to hand over production duties to Screenwave and take a paycheck from them.
James isn't innocent in all this.
I think James is just tired. He's been doing this for so many years now... the man needs a new job, something else to do!
They suck but James is just as guilty he literally wrote all of the scripts Freon this year and this year was absolutely the WORST one to date so the guy had just stopped caring or just lost his comedic touch and stuff to talk about it’s pathetic but at least his old vids still slap
Every "artists" work eventually gets stale. If He's was still as worried about, and able to, put out great content he wouldn't be working with these guys.
I love how the opening is trying to hype up the podcast like it's some incredible rollercoaster lead by rockstars, but in reality it's a snoozefest with a bunch charisma black holes in it. No BTS stuff, no interesting stories, no interesting topics. They could've talk about the old AVGN and Board James episodes, ffs. I guess James didn't want to mention his friends and crew he fired long time ago. All we left are some talentless randos and bored James.
INB4 justin damage control "joke"
I'm a big fan of whatever this is.
@@justysilverman well it's not feeding trough, so idk what's to like
@@justysilverman- I really don't understand you at all. You're like a male Trisha Paytas.
@@justysilverman You look like an old lady.
It’s depressing 😣AVGN used to be one of my favorite things to watch period. It’s now a shell of its former self and it’s really sad. They should just stop doing it and let it die instead of continuing with its lifeless corpse. R.I.P. AVGN
P.S. Rex Viper is pure concentrated cringe
Like it makes callbacks to previous nerd episodes every single time now, & it doesn't help that these fat nerds are writing the episodes & not you know James Rolfe
Rex Viper could work if James was singing but he isn't it's some worthless nobody
@@ama-ri_vox I wouldn't call the singer a nobody, he seems to be been around the nerd music scene for a while. I've been out of the loop for a while though so idk. Used to be in the nerd music scene pretty big, and he seems vaguely familiar to me. I can't see James as a singer though so it's probably for the best that he isn't.
@@TheVoidofNothing11 oh ok I guess it's my fault for never hearing about the "worthless nobody" I take back what I said there
It's his primary income, he CAN'T stop it, he has to keep it alive no matter what. His other passion apart from gaming didn't take off nearly as much, his love for horror movies in particular, the board games and 'you know what's bullshit' franchises both are great, but more of the same old ingredient that made him succesfull. But as long as James draws breath, AVGN isn't going away. His soul for this project has long left, it's just a regular job now to him and it shows.
AVGN could use a Stuttering John to spice things up.
You should see the likes and dislikes of Cinemassacre’s review of Resident Evil 4 VR. MY GOD!
James best years are behind him. He has used up all his nostalgia which is what he was know for.
AVGN is just there now just to make money. There is no passion anymore. Go watch his older Ninja Gaiden video then compare it to a modern AVGN. It is such a night and day difference. You can see James has no passion for any of his videos anymore. He just does it for the money.
I feel sorry for him as he has talent and could have been a big time director, his movie could have paved the way if it was anything but the AVGN movie. The entire idea was stupid. He literally could have done anything else and it would have turned out better. Now his confidence is shot and he just goes through the motions. James needs to get back on his horse and try again, every big time director has their flops.. Lucas had THX 1138, Carpenter had Dark Star, Cameron had Piranha 2, Spielberg had 1941. It happens to the best of them. James needs to get his ass back out there and try again.
Nobody's dream is to be a rhythm guitarist 😂
James is getting old and he's a family man. He needs to retire AVGN. He had a good run, but Cinemassacre is soulless now.
James has no time to make a decent podcast. Do you want him to suffer?
Don't you know he's the only man on the planet with a wife and kids...
The rex viper videos seem like the "coming out of your shell tour"that James talked about with doug walker a few years ago...anybody else getting those vibes?
They're really happening...
...
...
Musically
I am a turtle and i fallen, and i can't get up!!!
You guys should listen to when AVGN was on Opie and Anthony and it was as awkward and uncomfortable as you'd expect. James has literally nothing to say, they don't give a shit about anything, it's so bad
that really happened????
I always thought James had a regular job because he always said how busy he was. If his only jov is AVGN then there's no excuse for being lazy. Even the James and Mike Mondays were absolutely lazy and half-assed, you could tell James wasn't into it at all.
He acts like he’s the only person ever with a spouse and two kids. There’s nothing more boring than listening to someone pretend to be a martyr because they have a family.
He just deplores what he stands for, but thats okay, part of life. The problem is that its his livelihood, good money to provide a good life for his family. It must be hell, jeez
@@bramiwami Exactly. At least James can put some effort into it. If he's going to milk the Nerd as much as possible. James doesn't like video games , didn't watch the movies he reviewed on rental reviews. James could even find the time to watch the movie they were going to talk about
The last episode I listened to Kieran was hammered off whiskey and beer it was very awkward, I only made about 50% before turning it off. James just doesn't seem interested in video games or nostalgia, he only smiles when he talks about his kids I think he wants to live that Dad life which I 100% respect.
Then it's time to quit and get a real job.
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq Boomer take.
@David Nash now James gave up on the podcast. I guess muh kids and having no time means you can't prepare or come up with 3 or 4 topics to talk about.
I am millenial and still believe in real jobs. I guess now only streaming is a real job for your kind.
They finally canceled the podcast.
That didn't last long at all.
I always find it sad when James wants to talk about a topic he likes, like paranormal stuff, then Justin kinda rushes it along.
The sad part is that James took too long to elaborate
@@MrXabungleNo, the sad thing is Justin having a smugness that absolutely doesn't fit him... your "issue" can be solved in editing, for example.
@@redacted2275 I've seen him in movie reviews with them and he really does seem smug/annoyed for some reason.
James is pretty much an indentured servant to his own company at this point.
He's stuck in his own personal Hell. And he has no one to blame but himself for allowing Screenwave to swoop in, take over Cinemassacre and make everything go to absolute shit!
@@DreFromMaine8472 It’s sad. In the pre-AVGN movie era, Cinemassacre was a site and a brand that celebrated films and the art of filmmaking. AVGN never really had a big presence on the site. Yeah, it was his most popular project, but James always treated it like a side project. Nowadays, Cinemassacre means nothing, stands for nothing, and is just a name. The whole site has been restructured around the Nerd, Nerd related videos, or the Screenwave guys. Anything that had to do with filmmaking, or his passion for filmmaking has been scrubbed clean.
@@VideoGameAutopsy Exactly. Because years ago, his biggest passion was filmmaking and video game reviewing was always a distant second. Personally, I've always preferred his AVGN game reviews to his films. But now? It's just like you said. The abject failure of his movie, which he charged his fans money to see, has destroyed his passion for writing and making any more films. Because it bombed, he will no longer take any more risks, because he's terrified of failure. So he'll just stick with what has proven popular and continue to crank out more AVGN, regardless of quality or entertainment value. Which leads me back to what I originally said: the man is now stuck in his own personal Hell. With a wife and two kids to support on top of that. And as a result, he no longer "has time". It is what it is.
@@DreFromMaine8472 He doesn't have time to be depressed! He has two kids!
Ironically, I was watching Monster Madness vids and this video appeared.
And I have a couple things to say to you, guys...
AT LAST! SOMEONE POINTS IT OUT!
First, I must say I've been an AVGN fan since he was the Angry Nintendo Nerd, ages ago. James built a solid and awesome channel from scratch. It was nice see him including his likes (as his taste for horror and movies overall) and succeding in doing so. I'm no hater; all the way around.
BUT
Since those fat dudes took over, it's plain sad seeing him minimished; they interrupt him to say some stupid thing and he's like: "Yeah, yeah." It's depressing dude. It would be fine if they like, make a very intelligent or clever comment or shed light with priceless knowledge but no, they spit some empty argument and we all are like: Huh?
I stopped watching these new Cinemassacre's videos when those fat guys started, first appearing and then talking about their lives, likes or whatsoever; I'm here for James! Who the heck are you?
Anyway, I just hope James stumbles with this video and realizes what's going on. Because the consensus on internet forums and even Facebook is that Cinemassacre's is dying and rotting and not because of James, but of external individuals who weren't there when Cinemassacre was built by James.
I still watch Cinemassacre's OLD vids really often; it's cool to watch when James did this for passion; when Cinemasscre was a team of friends having fun.
And not a bunch of unkown retards talking bs. Peace out.
Ha…he constantly says “yeah, yeah”, with that phony smile, hiding the fact he’s in his head thinking,”What the fuck am I doing with these assholes?”
James is responsible at the end of the day
First time listener! Pleasantly surprised at the quality, the chemistry of the hosts and the work put in (eg the agreement compilation) and the conversation if focused and goes point-by-point. Even as an AVGN fan it was hilarious. Great job!
Can of coke for you lads
man you guys are bloody everywhere in the comments, fookin animals ye
What barrrrrrr is slobwave??
Love to see my favorite 2 channels just being marks for each other, I suppose james would be as he did was wrestling at one time as indicated by his wrestling games review. Yes Saturday night slammasters is 2nd best wrestling game next to here comes the pain
@@standardofexcellence I've got Haggers theme etched in my memory forever. Sequel was such a disappointment tho
I laughed harder at this podcast than I should have. This is pure comedy gold.
Unintentional comedy gold. A pretty large chunk of his fanbase is on the reddit making his content actually funny. The podcast is much more entertaining after FilmTrek does his edits.
This is spot on guys, I've been following Cinemassacre purely out of curiosity for how bad things can get
Watching this video in 2023 again because it’s hilarious. seriously haha
amusing how the book came AFTER the podcast got killed
The autistic Stephen King and Spielberg
James tainted his legacy. It ended with the movie. He took everyone’s money for a shitty self-mastubatory movie, threw everything into it and when he didn’t get famous like he thought he would, and realized he’d either have to get a normal job or sell out the nerd forever, he chose the latter. Ps I totally lost it when the Homer saying boring clip kept coming in! Lol
I recently unsubbed from Cinemassacre. Rex Viper is awful, and the podcast is fucking terrible. I was going to ask you to do an episode on this, but you did. They did two episodes with Brad Jones and Doug Walker and they were just talking about stories at conventions they would go to. It is the most boring podcast ever and they need to stop it. I am getting secondhand embarrassment watching it.
James now thinks he's a rockstar. He's a hack.
@@Gatorade69If he wasn't using his 2.5 million subscriber channel to promote it, nobody would be listening.
@Daniel Evensen Funny part is I was watching that in the background while cleaning and I missed that comment. The channel has declined. The only people winning are the guys from screenwave. unfunny hacks that now own a channel that generates half a million a year.
The memes are worth it.
But the ongoing channel and Bimmy himself suck ass.
Doug and Brad tried to carry those episodes but they just kept getting drowned out by the hosts
I used to be a huge AVGN fan back when he was new. I had no idea this podcast even existed and I will not be listening. Thanks for bringing this garbage to my attention so I can quickly forget about it.
I knew something was off when I listened to James and the gangs podcast but you really hit all the reasons why.
To me it just seemed like a bunch of member berries.
After Mike Matei left/was fired, I stopped caring altogether.
I don't hate James or anything, but man.. After all the facade of being a "gamer" that we all got caught up until the recent years. Seeing how petty and pathetic is the person behind the facade of "the angry video game nerd" leaves me totally speechless. I admired this guy so much in the past, and well, he is just in crumbles now.
What makes him petty? And he was a gamer (before the wife and kids) but he mostly played retro games.
What...
The fact that his whole career is playing videogames he is extremely bad at them. James saying he couldn't get passed the 1st RE2 screen was just sad. The fact he doesn't even care about videos games ,has a collection that people would kill for and doesn't even use any of is just embarrassing. I get muh kids but he can't play some cool original neo geo game for 45 mins a day when you work from home.
@@JohnSmith-yd5wq he plays old stuff though, the stuff he grew up with. The NES era. He doesn't care as much about the PS games. His collection IS all old stuff.
@@VideoGameMasters09 he literally doesn't play anything anymore.
How much longer will guys in their 40's and 50's talking about the 80's be profitable? also this is the funniest video ever
actually, they'll be in their 60's and 70's talking about the 80's soon enough!! And it will STILL be profitable! 😉
32:30 “who gives a shit, Who gives a fuck” lmfao sums up the avgn podcast
I remember when they first did the podcast. I did notice right away that they kept on habitually saying "yeah" to the point where I was cringing every other time they said the word.
Yeah these guys are right. He's no better than millli vanilli at this point. Plagiarism is the same as lip syncing someone elses songs. I don't care if he didn't write it, it's his damn show and he was the draw. Dude is cashing checks and banking on his fan's stupidity.
TheCinemassacreTruth isn't really a hate community. I mean there are some nasty people that pop up, but most of us are just people who have been around since the beginning and the community formed due to the original subreddit being heavily censored and all channel controversy and criticism wasn't allowed. Then it snowballed over the years to gain more and more traction each time they fucked up. The Monster Madness incident was a huge driving force.
The Monster Madness incident? Im really late to this but lately YT has recommending this but I have no idea
@@kerbal666 they were caught plagiarizing movie reviews
@@NISSANZ33 Ah right. Cheers.
You're delusional lmao
They said hate community but that sub reddit is basically this video in audio form
I believe cinenassacre deleted negative to critisim comments on their channel that's why the dislikes is growing on their channel and why it seems like only "positive" comments are left
I haven't been to that site in years. It's nothing more than a giant echo chamber there now. Only positive comments that kiss James' ass are allowed!
you have to watch the doug walker episode where kieran shows up hungover and makes everyone's skin crawl with his weird drinking stories that would sound cool if they where being told by a college freshman but when they come from a boomer like him who's clinging to his youth in a perpetual echo chamber it comes off as pathethic
Hungover? He was smashed the entire episode. There's two episides where he's wasted
He was drunk and he isn’t a boomer.Baby boomers were born between 46-1964.He is a millennial.
I thought the dude was in his 20's. He looks young.
Even RLM Mike is drunk half the time or putting on the act of being drunk and does better.
He's not a boomer, he's a millennial, which gives him even less excuses.
James Rolfe wanted to be a director, he doesn't really care about video games. It's no surprise he doesn't play them anymore.
All podcasts are shit. It's lazy content meant to be pumped out with minimum work. It would take a couple hours to edit most podcasts into decent TH-cam videos.
Depends on how funny the hosts are. Someone with a quick wit can really make you laugh
Podcast are great if they are about things you care about and you can't watch the screen when i have to do work i listen to podcasts.
It's kinda ironic that the largest man on the crew is the most leech-like, hes not funny, and only ever comes off as if hes only around these guys because he either invited himself or they invited him out of pity
The problem I find is that there is no chemistry whatsoever between James and the screenwave crew. Half the time either James will talk about what he is passionate about or he is silent while the others rant about nonsense. If James would stick to being on the podcast by himself and having a guest star or a regular then it would probably be alot better. As far as Rex viper goes...yeesh. I'm not a fan but they are having fun. I still watch avgn. It's been meh here and there but you can't keep amazing content going forever.
The podcast is just unlistenable. And his friends are terrible. Even Mike and Jay had a very rocky start with half in the bag. They had to prove their worth and earn their fans. And they did because the two of them are fun, funny, they have interesting topics and interesting takes on those topics. James and his friends are just so boring. Mike Matei is better in every measure. Mike has gotten way better on his streams. Him and Ryan also started doing a podcast, but they do it so sparingly, and it's genuinely better than James podcast. If you want good old video game stuff, check out Mike Matei or "U Can Beat Video Games".
mike n jay edit
EVERY measure ;)
Yeah, I tried to get into it, but you're right, the podcasts are boring, have no central theme, it's literally random shit and just boring. I mean, even for a random 'shoot-the-shit' podcast you have to come in with at least 1 or 2 main topics you want to cover, and you also need people good at having one story lead to the next and so forth.
I have a small channel and do a podcast too, and let me tell ya, a LOT of it for the editing side is editing out the long silences, all the extra 'ums' and editing out when someone loses connection and we're waiting for them to come back on and stuff like that. Then again, my podcast is about wrestling, so it already has a theme, and even when we go on tangents, it's still related to wrestling or wrestlers.
It was really Mike who carried Cinemassacre
Yup, AVGN was 80% Mike. James was just a puppet.
Avgn will always have a very special place in my heart, great mix of humour and nostalgia. Ever since he branched out into making more content, it's never been the same. Still, I wish James and his family the best going forward
James is a weasel. I dont trust his nervous smile and constant yes-manning.
I like the picture of Justin in a diaper with child plushie dolls not looking like a chester at all
Ever since he brought in those zilches to co host that dumb video store review show it's been pretty embarrassing. I still like AVGN videos but but the other content is worthless.
Why ? Nerd episodes suck. He doesn't play or write the games. He gets a script and reads it in a teleprompter. James is a hack.
AVGN is just going through the motions the last idk 5-6 years maybe more .. when he was younger it was hilarious u could tell he was actually pissed off like the Jekyll Mr Hyde review or at least he put his heart into making the script funny… now it’s like he’s still saying the same things but it’s with no passion and u can tell it’s totally scripted but I guess hes what like 40 something.. so now when u die in Donkey Kong you probably aren’t going to go on curse word laden rant..
@@Jrh-rp7np It's hard to show emotions when you haven't played the game (and or watched the movie) and are just reading a script.
James is a rockstar now. No time for video games or even Harrer movies.
@@Gatorade69 I guess it's like when you know a show has gone downhill but you still watch here and there cause you like the characters/format. I know it's not what it used to be and its not like I watch every new one ASAP like in the old days but my main point was that I still enjoy James but hate these fat slobs that he brought in to sit there and add nothing.
I listen while at the gym,it angers me and I lift heavier.
I think one issue is some people like Angry Video Game Nerd and some people like all of James Rolfe's content. Like, I enjoy AVGN, Board James, and Monster Madness, I can just listen to James talk about movies for hours, but some people have higher AVGN level expectations.
My biggest issue with the podcast is Justin cutting off, talking over, and essentially acting like an on screen producer all the time. That plus the guests have been pretty lacking.
If they REALLY wanted the podcast to blow up they'd do an episode with James, Kyle Justin, Bootsy, and Mike. People would tune in to see/hear the old crew talk old times, what they're upto now, and go over how things got to where they are.
That's true. James can go hours talking about old horror movies, editing equipment and cameras and stuff, but when it's unplanned, random just, whatever off the top of your head kinda stuff, he doesn't know what to say. And I figure he can't talk about the stuff he actually can go in-depth about because well, there's separate videos for that. The other guys being boring and not knowing what to talk about also make it even worse.
James autism is more prevalent these days
Justin is a bucket of cringe 😬
Also a bathtub of rancid butter
Just watch FilmTreks edits of the podcast instead lol. 10x better.
I found those yesterday. I second this. I hope James keeps doing the podcast so FilmTreks can keep editing them haha
Thank you for loving our little "hate" community funny shit, but don't think I haven't forgotten what you did to my good friend Stavros and Nick.
What happened with cum town?
Nick literally stole a story a girl told him at a party and now tells it as if it happened to him. They're every bit as crap as cinemassacre.
Everything these guys said about the current state of cinemassacre is just spot on, bottom line once James and mike stopped running the channel and screen shitty media took over, it all went down the shitter, ie 2018 onwards
He got married and had kids. Sucks it all out of you
10:14 - I lost it here and needed to take a breather from all the laughing I was doing
Oh how the mighty has fallen
Lol I thought Alex Jones was ripping on James for a second, man I got way too excited.
Its Maxwell!! Aaand punt!!!!
its a love community. Its not hate its just disappointment
James is a has been. I moved on and most people should too.
I unsubbed from Cinnemassacre around 2 years ago. James Rolfe has been phoning it in for years now. His old stuff is good and people have nostalgia goggles on with him which is why he's still getting viewers because for the past, what, 4 years, his content has been TERRIBLE.
Lmfao, about died laughing at the comment about the new guys being cardboard cutouts, nothing going on there.
You've gained a new sub. And I've been subbed to avgn since 2007.
I watch their new podcast... and it seems like the co-hosts are better at long-form talk than James is. James is great at scripting and acting stuff out. That being said, his new series of videos of him getting emotional while reading fan letters on how much he's helped them is a little douchey, and feels like he's patting himself on the back. Also, the new music stuff is pretty cringy with his band. I think it's cool that he takes up that hobby, but it should be on a separate channel... nothing worse than nerds trying to act badass playing video game metal lol.
Dude needs to retire, but he thinks people that tell him to retire are assholes, so I guess he needs to keep going and continue losing credibility
video game nerd is one of the originals. Haven't thought about him in years
There's a reason why you haven't. He puts out crap. Doesn't play the games and just reads scripts from a teleprompter.
@@Gatorade69 is there really any reason to say other than being overtly negative lmfao
@@pattipooh What you think my comment is overtly negative ? Only negative thing I said was "He puts out crap" and yes that's my opinion is that his newer content is bad. The teleprompter thing is real so that isn't negative.
I don't get what your getting at. I'm letting people know just how bad the channel has gotten. I mean you say overtly negative but the very guy is constantly negative, making shit joke and telling companies that they put out shit. I can do the very same.
@@pattipooh it's not negative, it's true. He outsourced the gaming portion and the script writing for videos. He just records and poorly acts while reading from a teleprompter and it shows. It would be fine if the videos were good but they're boring, half-baked, and poorly acted now. James' creativity is disconnected from the new videos. Compare a season 2 or 3 or 4 video to his new content. It's BEEEEE ESSSSS
@@Gatorade69 so...Joe Biden 🤣