So, I grew up mormon just like Anna did. The way she lays out her graphics and quotes, the structure of her videos, her speech patterns, her ethnocentrism, and general aura are all textbook mormon, minus some of her clothing choices. I have since resigned legally from mormonism, but listening to Anna is like listening to one of my sisters who still actively attends. There is even an official, trademarked name for this style of presentation called "Heartsell" by Bonneville Communications. The "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Mainstream mormon church) teaches that when you encounter something and it makes you feel "warm and fuzzy" inside , then that's the "Holy Ghost" telling you that it is the truth/right/holy. I feel that this may influence her research processes. Also, there is a dietary and lifestyle guide within mormonism called "The Word of Wisdom". It has some good points to it, but the culture that has built up around the "WoW" is extremely unhealthy. Most of the practicing mormon people I grew up around were very unhealthy and morbidly obese, but trusted in the "WoW" and the "Holy Ghost" more than any kind of science or professional. There is a very clear reason why most MLM's have ties to mormonism and why a lot of famous true-crime cases involve practicing members. I say this with love for the members, but distain for the people who exploit them. Mormons tend to be pretty naïve. I know I was. Just a thought I keep having while watching her videos.
Yeah I also grew up Mormon and Anna always "sounds" Mormon to me. Even her hand movements and mannerisms feel Mormon somehow. Which I've been kind of surprised by because she's from Ohio but her personality/aura feels Western Mormon to me (not necessarily Utah because she doesn't have the distinctive Utah Mormon accent) but she could easily fit into any of the wards (Mormon word for "congregations") that I've been to in California, Texas, Nevada, Idaho.
Thank you for saying all that so eloquently. I practiced psychiatry for a short time in a rural area with a large LDS population. I always considered myself “a friendly outsider” in regard to the LDS community but the amount of sickness that pervades even seemingly-innocuous aspects of LDS culture is astounding. Love the people, hate the lies.
Yes thank you for actually looking up the history! It was driving me nuts! Had to edit my comment the amount of misinformation in this video nearly rivals that of her current day lipodema medical team, just wow!
10:57 "This is Christian propaganda." Remember, Anna was raised in a strict Mormon home. So, her low-key dissing of pre-Christian Pagan religions is not so surprising.
I haven’t looked into the other comments she made but it isn’t Christian propaganda that the reason gifts are given on Christmas is the tradition from the 3 wisemen giving gifts to Jesus. I know some people don’t want to relate Christmas with Jesus and you do you! But for the sake of actual truth she is correct. Again - on this only! Didn’t look up any of her other comments.
@@victoriamcdaniel4108yeah she was saying why gift giving began for CHRISTMAS. Not Yule or any earlier pagan holidays. For Christmas, it comes from the gifts of the wisemen. People gave gifts to each other before Christmas, but it was for different reasons
20:19 I love how she has to vilify the times before Christianity by saying people would 'drink themselves into excess' and give 'small gifts.' You know, not like the big gifts that baby Jesus inspired, the best baby to ever baby!
It’s as if she read some history about Christmas traditions but has all of the reading comprehension abilities of a poorly programmed AI, so this is the end result.
28:13 Anna doing these re-decorating stunts all the way back in 2016 explain her behavior during the famous Target mannequin rearrangement / drunk meltdown.
Jewish person here. Frankincense was one of a number of spices used in the spice offering in the Temple and offered to G-d. Offerings like this are only brought to G-d. Nowhere in Jewish traditions do we worship a child of any kind. What is she taking about?
@TheDragonNinjaLord I'm religious. It's a sign of respect (and is also a commandment) to be careful not to use G-d's name frivolously. And even though in this case it's written in English and isn't the name we use in prayers, Torah learning, or blessings, it's common practice in my community to go an extra step to be careful not to write it out completely.
16:40 this is probably one comment too many, but I actually think this could be a valuable insight into the way that Anna sees a given data set, digests the information and the conclusions that she jumps to. It's like she's playing Telephone with herself.
@@TinyBlueAnthropologistI was thinking about that when I made this comment. Like...how could she possibly? Is she being overconfident? It really adds one more layer of absurdity to this whole mess.
My latin teachers are screaming into a closet somewhere about her saturnalia fact it was a massive festival with more than just drinking and gift giving
Hey, Jewish fact checker checking in:) so frankincense being an aromatic spice, it was used in the incense in ancient Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. But not for anything else and isn't used in any of our services. I suppose it's possible that in those times it would have been given as a gift, there are multiple Biblical and Talmudic references to its use as a kind of perfume/cosmetic, but since Judaism is extremely against the idea of worshiping any human or anything besides God, the reasoning here doesn't make any sense to me. Gifts are often given on Chanuka these days but that is really a modern thing because of the secular / Christian influence and the marketing campaigns, it isn't part of the original meaning or traditions of the holiday. Some traditional Jews specifically do not give gifts because it's known that it's a tradition taken from other cultures. Small monetary gifts are more traditional among Ashkenazi Jews ("Chanukah gelt"), which is why you often see chocolate coins in stores as well. PS Jesus would have celebrated Chanukah;-)
18:32 Frankincense and myrrh are resins that were used to prepare bodies during that period. So the gifts are actually foreshadowing of Jesus's death. As for Hannukah, it is actually not a super major religion in Judaism. It mostly evolved as a big thing to give Jews something to celebrate while all the Christians celebrate. Same for gifts and usually it is small and practical such as socks.
I’m sorry I’m Jewish but that’s not correct. There was no foreshadowing . It’s completely normal for the first born to receive such things. Hanukkah was never offset so we would have something to celebrate while the Christian celebrated their Christmas. That’s not true , we know the actual birth was September 11. We also know that December 25 is a a non Christian holiday that was adopted by the church. We do not run on the same calendar as you do so our Hanukkah is never the same time every year. It’s purely based on the moon sometimes we’ll have it as early as August others will have it as late as February. It’s not because we need something to celebrate. It is recognizing god’s miracle .
@@Babygeico That was totally bad wording on my part! I should have said Hannukah is a more minor religious holiday and has elevated social status since it falls in the late November/December/early January period depending in the year. As a result a lot of people outside of Judiasm think it's religious importance is similar to that of Christmas, when it is not. It was awful phrasing in my original post and I am sorry I was not more intentional with my words in it.
@divatesteddivaapproved If I remember correctly, it goes like this. She dropped out of high school then got her GED but didn't have the grades to get into college or uni. but wrote a letter or applied under a special program of some kind and was accepted.
I had to write a speech about Christmas/Santa for my public speaking class in college. I have a lot of of Christmas facts stuck in my head. These facts in the first video are driving me nuts.
12:15 I always heard it was increased shopping crowds because they were in town for the Army/Navy game. Like without the game there wouldn’t be as many people in town.
There's a fantastic, well-researched video by Abby Cox about Thanksgiving, and how it's honestly been a shopping-motivated holiday in the United States since its public holiday inception, that I think you'd find interesting to watch: th-cam.com/video/aBXdNDnrutA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=U5ZzPLTfe7WqYs8t
I wonder at what point in her life she left the church And the Christmas ban.....she means the puritans! In england it was all during the Cromwell era. The only time the UK didn't have a monarchy...it makes so much sense, it was an austere practice where most celebrations were seen as sinful 😂 🎀
Abby Cox ( @AbbyCox ) has a video up recently that includes some of the origin stories about Black Friday. She does mention the Army Navy game, but only in the context of bringing more people into the city and causing headaches for the police. Abby is a fashion historian who does a good job of sourcing her videos.
Don’t you think she was talking specifically about Christmas gifts, not all gift giving everywhere? I think you are conflating all the December “holiday” traditions with “Christmas” in a way that she doesn’t. Once again, not defining terms is muddying the waters, shocker. As far as the other things go, craziness in need of fact checking. I had to laugh about you using Wikipedia as a source, considering I would never let my students cite Wikipedia in an academic paper. It’s so difficult, because some Wikipedia pages are excellent, and others are …not. Anyway, this is shaping up to be a fun series and I’m glad you’re doing it.😅
@@TinyBlueAnthropologistI’ve just watched the second video in this series and I formally give up being an Anna apologist. Her scholarship issues go well beyond definition of terms. 😂
💜💜💜. The US didn't even exist until 1776 so something couldn't be illegal in the US until it existed. It would have been banned in the Americas but not illegal in the US
It was technically illegal in part of the US. It was banned in Massachusetts until, well, local sources vary, but somewhere between 1840 and 1850. But that's a small section. Not the most accurate. The info seems to be in museum collections not listed online yet, so makes sense Snopes doesn't have access.
Thank god for an anthropologist on board. These days (2024) we can trace gift-giving back a minimum of 11,000 years ago, along with a multitude of reasons for said gift giving: such as homage to a superior/ruling class; as a bride price; as a gift to spare execution; you get the picture. One comment I would make is that people like Anna in 2024 have well and truly drunk from the cup of commercialism and capitalism which allow us to grace those in our good favour, and subtly snub our in-laws or whoever.
I think she said why gift giving for the “Christmas”holiday was based on the 3 wisemen. Christmas is the key word. But maybe she just said gift giving? Not trying to get in a Catholic religious bent but that is a correct attribution for the reason gifts are given on Christmas- religious tradition.
You expect someone to grow as a person, devolving seems to be more Anna lately.... I wish she was still self-aware like in her Blog days... I'd be so supportive of her...
Anna should do a "things as I believe" section just to have fun, have a laugh, knowing is not factual just a trol video and would be a sensation. The same as Amber, but since they do believe in the wrong, as a fact, they will not tolerate the "bscklash" 🎀🎀🎀
You’re from Philly? Same! The year we won the Super Bowl, my employer gave us the day off because they knew everyone would call out to go to the parade anyway.
So I used to go to the Army Navy game with my dad who was Navy. I don’t remember any fights or anything crazy. Plus, the teams are from West Point and Annapolis so they’re not even Philadelphia teams. Now Philadelphia teams playing? That’s another story.😂
The goblin in me was kind of tempted to post a “sorry Tiny Blue but you’re incorrect” themed comment and link the original Anna videos as my sources of proof 😂😂
Defamation and slander! Had to put that in here since it's all we've been hearing from Amby lately. Yes, we Jews gift all year long on holidays in honor of Jesus, no matter what we celebrate.. Passover, the New Year, Hannuka, sure - it's all about the Jesus 🙄 My American huzzband is always amazed that me, a Jewish girl, uses "Jesus Christ" and one of my most used cuss words. Here's a fun fact for ya, Anna. She's hyper again. What was she on back then?! Insecurity and young(er) age, I'd say. Congrats on 10K!!!! 🎀
So Amber’s latest video was her crying about her cat rarity. I feel very coldhearted because it seemed very disingenuous. I would love your take on this.
It feels so weird that even I knew the correct history of Black Friday and I'm not even from America. And Black Friday in Germany is a similar, but whole other thing culturally amd historically (and yes, it was in part brought over from the US in the late 2000's/took off in the 2010's) Anyway, fun video as always and love your commentary, looking forward to the other reactions!
She’s pretty in that first clip! I know it was a long time ago and I know I looked better when I was younger, too 😅 but it just shows how important it is try to stay as fit and healthy as one can 😕
Honestly, I think Black Friday is this kind of ambiguous term and concept with people, in typical American fashion, where we blend facts and events together so we really never know the truth. And to be fair, frequently something starts over in this place as one thing and over in this other distant place as something else and spread although neither origin story is wrong. I don’t know about historical Black Friday because I don’t think it’s a historical thing. I think it’s a modern post-yuppy thing, so 1990’s. The way it had been explained to me by my high-school economics teacher in 2004 was that it was named black because retailers HOPED they would go into the black from dismal sales, and being in the red, previously. Hence Black Friday. This particular teacher also taught us that, although there had previously been precious metal funding the treasury and standing behind the value of our dollar, that was no longer the case and hadn’t been for over a century. He taught us that money has value because governments say money has value, which was a very true and important lesson for me. My logic has been if he can teach me such reasonable critical things, sociopathic humans that run retailers probably went on a superstitious lark in naming Black Friday and that makes the most sense for that title.
Historically Black Friday has meant a lot of things, but shopping it was the 1960s because of the shopping day prior to the Army Navy football game. It had to do with, as the wiki said, the congestion in town, especially with so few people actually buying things because they didn't want to cart things home after the game. So it was a nightmare of traffic, largely of window shoppers waiting for game day.
I actually saw an article once (source: lost in the mists of time) that said sports violence was often worse by the winning side rather than the losers. Guess the losers are tucked away licking their wounds somewhere... Another article (source: ditto) said apparently researchers had found wikipedia to be at least as accurate as the Encyclopedia Brittanica. I imagine the same factor that can make it unreliable - the ability to edit - also makes it easy to correct. Plus their checking and control processes have probably evolved since the wild early days.
@TinyBlueAnthropologist indeed! Not sure whether I made it clear enough but I was trying to support it against the usual "you can't use wikipedia" complaints. There was a recent malicious editing scandal in the ultrarunning world that reminded me that there are actually more controls than we might realise!
Enjoyed this! Seemed to be right in your anthropological/archaeological wheelhouse. Definitely caught my interest. The irony of Christmas being banned on strict Christian religious grounds is...amusing...
She's talking about holiday roulette a Victorian tradition where a gift is hidden underneath a random cup/plate and every guest pulls a string. The one who pulls the right string wins the prize usually it was something small like a chocolate or orange
ive nothing against pagans, in fact i prefer them over "christians" who are also pagans but too stupid to know it cause they dont actually read the bible. christmas has nothing to do with jesus christ. fun fact i wish more self proclaimed christians knew
19:30 Oh, here's a comment of more value: I know that many Christian branches do teach that the gifts of the wise men (aka Magi) had symbolic significance, though some only describe it as "really expensive gifts you'd give a king because the wise men expected a king". I think my church taught it was gold = king, frankincense = worship, and myrrh foreshadowed death (which Wikipedia also lists). However my assumption was (and is also confirmed @ Wiki sources) these theories of the symbolism were interpreted at later dates by both Christian and secular scholars, and while they may be correct perhaps, it's also noted we have a piece of recorded history that these three gifts" were offered to Apollo hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus. It is worth nothing that the specific identities of the three Magi are not in the bible at all, but were developed as later traditions. In fact it doesn't actually specify there were three of them, just that there were three gifts. 🤷
As a long-time Philadelphia sports fan, she probably confused the Philly shopping origin to the bad reputation that the sports team has. Though this team I think the teams are innocent in this story.😂
I get the feeling that Anna doesnt actually know what a sitting room is and that largely (in the UK anyway) this is one and the same as a living room these days.
Tasting History with Max Miller has a really interesting video on Election Cake and how the puritans turned Election Day into a big celebration for all the other celebrations they disallowed in the puritanical colonies.
I’m going to keep this as simple and logical for the people who have difficulty understanding the impact pre-Christian society has on us but are for some reason making videos. When they made the trip to Jerusalem, Jesus’s mother was Jewish, correct? Joseph was Jewish, correct? Correct. Ok. Judaism predates Christianity by at least 1,500 years. That means that, minimally, Jewish culture was a part of the birth of Jesus. So minimally, Jewish culture of that time was to bring gifts to families that made the pilgrimage to Jerusalem particularly if the family had a newborn baby. Chances are they weren’t “gifts”, they were probably so the family wouldn’t starve during the pilgrimage. But anyways, the point is gift giving was not a new concept because of Christianity. Gift giving has been done for millennia for two main purposes- to garner favor and encourage allegiance or to express favor, admiration, and love.
Oh, and the idea of gift giving during the winter (with Christmas) isn’t that elusive either. Winter has always been known as a harsh time for survival in non-tropical places. Feudal lords would have had to have given their people food and goods without the exchange of labor during the Middle Ages otherwise their entire workforce would have been dead by spring harvest time plus there weren’t crops to tend to in the winter. The only weird part there is considering it a “gift” to give your employee food and shelter to survive the winter when they literally can’t work for you and can’t go elsewhere. Even the most ignorant of us know how human history is strange and brutal and it’s absolutely mind-boggling that she has no concept of that.
@@TinyBlueAnthropologist I will not. It’s taken me 38 years to earn this logic. It’s not going anywhere. Jk of course lol awesome videos! Thank you, Tiny!
Ugh... my historian self is cringing so hard, in part because Snopes is wrong. 😱 I can't fault Snopes here because a majority of the documents are not listed online, so someone would actually have to visit a lot of archives, and that would be a lot of work. So Massachusetts historians generally seem to agree that Christmas remained illegal in Massachusetts until the 1830s or 1840s, and was basically universally not celebrated here until the 1850s. Old Sturbridge Village has a nice little display as a part of their Christmas event that discusses how they decided to interpret Christmas in the 1830s when Chrisrmas wasn’t a thing in Mass and businesses were expexted to operate on Christmas day. It's just not widely known because it was just our state. So, yes, it was illegal in the US, but only in one singular state. That's a whole boatload of different than "illegal in the US" implies, especially since it's not like we're talking a large state. Its one of the smallest in the US. Two, the Black Friday thing does have to do with the Army Navy game. That's the reason traffic was so bad in Philadelphia in particular. People would come into town the day before to shop and would stay for the game, so it was more shoppers in town than would otherwise be expected by quite a lot, adding to the local holiday that already existed. Abby Cox has an amazing video on this whole topic. But the "rebrand" idea, it's more that the term leaked beyond it's original borders, and when people didn't know the reason it was called Black Friday, a myth started that sounded like it was probably right, and ir spread because it made more sense to people who didn’t know about origin, and research on the internet was a long ways off at that point. Same thing happened to the origins of Thanksgiving as a national holiday, which nowhere mentions Pilgrims, yet here we are. Instead of promoting unity between the fractured North and South in the Civil War, we have an inaccurate take on a harvest festival that was not a day of Thanksgiving because that would be a fast, not a feast, and it only warrented a one liner in the diary of William Bradford, which is how we even know it happened at all. I have a feeling I'm gonna hate these so much. Historians and anthropologists, we get it.
Whitsun/Whitsunday is the what Anglicans and Methodists call Pentecost. It's the 7th Sunday after Easter Edit it's more specific to the Anglicans/Methodists in England not sure if the US Anglicans/Methodists call it Pentecost or Whitsun
No jail in Lincoln Financial Field but there was a jail in Veterans Stadium. Judge Seamus McCaffrey presiding. My buddy was booked there for peeing in the ladies room all loaded.
She didn’t actually say black people. She just said people were looting and breaking shit because of the army/navy game and didn’t explain why the name “Black Friday” specifically was used
The US did not exsist in 1680....
So, I grew up mormon just like Anna did. The way she lays out her graphics and quotes, the structure of her videos, her speech patterns, her ethnocentrism, and general aura are all textbook mormon, minus some of her clothing choices. I have since resigned legally from mormonism, but listening to Anna is like listening to one of my sisters who still actively attends. There is even an official, trademarked name for this style of presentation called "Heartsell" by Bonneville Communications. The "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Mainstream mormon church) teaches that when you encounter something and it makes you feel "warm and fuzzy" inside , then that's the "Holy Ghost" telling you that it is the truth/right/holy. I feel that this may influence her research processes.
Also, there is a dietary and lifestyle guide within mormonism called "The Word of Wisdom". It has some good points to it, but the culture that has built up around the "WoW" is extremely unhealthy. Most of the practicing mormon people I grew up around were very unhealthy and morbidly obese, but trusted in the "WoW" and the "Holy Ghost" more than any kind of science or professional. There is a very clear reason why most MLM's have ties to mormonism and why a lot of famous true-crime cases involve practicing members. I say this with love for the members, but distain for the people who exploit them. Mormons tend to be pretty naïve. I know I was.
Just a thought I keep having while watching her videos.
I'm sure it also plays a part in Anna's poor understanding of history.
Yeah I also grew up Mormon and Anna always "sounds" Mormon to me. Even her hand movements and mannerisms feel Mormon somehow. Which I've been kind of surprised by because she's from Ohio but her personality/aura feels Western Mormon to me (not necessarily Utah because she doesn't have the distinctive Utah Mormon accent) but she could easily fit into any of the wards (Mormon word for "congregations") that I've been to in California, Texas, Nevada, Idaho.
I’m starting to understand why they weren’t well received in Israel
Thank you for saying all that so eloquently. I practiced psychiatry for a short time in a rural area with a large LDS population. I always considered myself “a friendly outsider” in regard to the LDS community but the amount of sickness that pervades even seemingly-innocuous aspects of LDS culture is astounding. Love the people, hate the lies.
Yes thank you for actually looking up the history! It was driving me nuts! Had to edit my comment the amount of misinformation in this video nearly rivals that of her current day lipodema medical team, just wow!
Kinda foreshadows it
And many young ones will just accept this as true, because hey it's on the Internet. Duh!!!
Well at least we know the army games
10:57 "This is Christian propaganda." Remember, Anna was raised in a strict Mormon home. So, her low-key dissing of pre-Christian Pagan religions is not so surprising.
I haven’t looked into the other comments she made but it isn’t Christian propaganda that the reason gifts are given on Christmas is the tradition from the 3 wisemen giving gifts to Jesus. I know some people don’t want to relate Christmas with Jesus and you do you! But for the sake of actual truth she is correct. Again - on this only! Didn’t look up any of her other comments.
@@victoriamcdaniel4108 Yes, that's the reason they cooked up after they stole all the traditions of jul (like gift giving) from the pagans
@@victoriamcdaniel4108yeah she was saying why gift giving began for CHRISTMAS. Not Yule or any earlier pagan holidays. For Christmas, it comes from the gifts of the wisemen. People gave gifts to each other before Christmas, but it was for different reasons
@@glittterclitter yep 👍- don’t know about the other stuff but this one is correct
20:19 I love how she has to vilify the times before Christianity by saying people would 'drink themselves into excess' and give 'small gifts.' You know, not like the big gifts that baby Jesus inspired, the best baby to ever baby!
The best baby to ever baby 😂
I remember back a year ago when I started watching your "anthropologists reacts" series. Simpler times. We knew less. Now the horror is real.
It’s as if she read some history about Christmas traditions but has all of the reading comprehension abilities of a poorly programmed AI, so this is the end result.
21:44 The US didn't exist in 1680, Anna. I don't even think that's being pedantic.
Correct
Her ignorance is driving me bananas. And my tummy is sick. One of the only things I can eat currently is bananas. I don’t need more bananas, Anna.
She even got the Christian history of Christmas wrong…..
As a Christian, I don't accept Anna's half-arsed "research."
It’s easy.
She grew up Mormon. The LDS aren’t big on actual history.
28:13 Anna doing these re-decorating stunts all the way back in 2016 explain her behavior during the famous Target mannequin rearrangement / drunk meltdown.
yup!
"Victorian times" and "people had the money" usually dont go in the same sentence 😂😂
Jewish person here. Frankincense was one of a number of spices used in the spice offering in the Temple and offered to G-d. Offerings like this are only brought to G-d. Nowhere in Jewish traditions do we worship a child of any kind. What is she taking about?
Why are you censoring the word God?
@TheDragonNinjaLord I'm religious. It's a sign of respect (and is also a commandment) to be careful not to use G-d's name frivolously. And even though in this case it's written in English and isn't the name we use in prayers, Torah learning, or blessings, it's common practice in my community to go an extra step to be careful not to write it out completely.
16:40 this is probably one comment too many, but I actually think this could be a valuable insight into the way that Anna sees a given data set, digests the information and the conclusions that she jumps to.
It's like she's playing Telephone with herself.
I think many comments are good! It helps the channel.
She supposedly as a degree dealing with Data and data sets.
@@TinyBlueAnthropologistI was thinking about that when I made this comment. Like...how could she possibly? Is she being overconfident? It really adds one more layer of absurdity to this whole mess.
She's so confidently wrong
My latin teachers are screaming into a closet somewhere about her saturnalia fact it was a massive festival with more than just drinking and gift giving
4:19 I heard ”there was an Adam” and thought you were going to say he was split into Adam and Eve 😂
1:03 You ARE over 10k! Huzzah!
Hey, Jewish fact checker checking in:) so frankincense being an aromatic spice, it was used in the incense in ancient Jewish Temple in Jerusalem. But not for anything else and isn't used in any of our services. I suppose it's possible that in those times it would have been given as a gift, there are multiple Biblical and Talmudic references to its use as a kind of perfume/cosmetic, but since Judaism is extremely against the idea of worshiping any human or anything besides God, the reasoning here doesn't make any sense to me.
Gifts are often given on Chanuka these days but that is really a modern thing because of the secular / Christian influence and the marketing campaigns, it isn't part of the original meaning or traditions of the holiday. Some traditional Jews specifically do not give gifts because it's known that it's a tradition taken from other cultures. Small monetary gifts are more traditional among Ashkenazi Jews ("Chanukah gelt"), which is why you often see chocolate coins in stores as well.
PS Jesus would have celebrated Chanukah;-)
18:32 Frankincense and myrrh are resins that were used to prepare bodies during that period. So the gifts are actually foreshadowing of Jesus's death. As for Hannukah, it is actually not a super major religion in Judaism. It mostly evolved as a big thing to give Jews something to celebrate while all the Christians celebrate. Same for gifts and usually it is small and practical such as socks.
Mur was also added to wine because it had anti-inflammatory properties.
I’m sorry I’m Jewish but that’s not correct. There was no foreshadowing . It’s completely normal for the first born to receive such things. Hanukkah was never offset so we would have something to celebrate while the Christian celebrated their Christmas. That’s not true , we know the actual birth was September 11. We also know that December 25 is a a non Christian holiday that was adopted by the church. We do not run on the same calendar as you do so our Hanukkah is never the same time every year. It’s purely based on the moon sometimes we’ll have it as early as August others will have it as late as February. It’s not because we need something to celebrate. It is recognizing god’s miracle .
Also, we have several passovers and seadars that involve giftgiving. It’s not just once a year.
@@Babygeico That was totally bad wording on my part! I should have said Hannukah is a more minor religious holiday and has elevated social status since it falls in the late November/December/early January period depending in the year. As a result a lot of people outside of Judiasm think it's religious importance is similar to that of Christmas, when it is not. It was awful phrasing in my original post and I am sorry I was not more intentional with my words in it.
After I found out that Anna basically had to beg to get into college it gave me more insight into why she talks and acts like she does.
Do tell more…
@divatesteddivaapproved If I remember correctly, it goes like this. She dropped out of high school then got her GED but didn't have the grades to get into college or uni. but wrote a letter or applied under a special program of some kind and was accepted.
I had to write a speech about Christmas/Santa for my public speaking class in college. I have a lot of of Christmas facts stuck in my head. These facts in the first video are driving me nuts.
Are we surprised with her lack of research….? Not meeeeeeee. 🤣 Also, congrats on the 10k!! 🎉
Yes! Thank you!
12:15 I always heard it was increased shopping crowds because they were in town for the Army/Navy game. Like without the game there wouldn’t be as many people in town.
The Wiki said the crowds came first, but the game didn't help.
how did she seriously say that xmas was all from christians and then halfway through the video-only in text format- reverse the statement lmao
Oh thank God. It's been such a hard week i needed this.
Me too.
There's a fantastic, well-researched video by Abby Cox about Thanksgiving, and how it's honestly been a shopping-motivated holiday in the United States since its public holiday inception, that I think you'd find interesting to watch: th-cam.com/video/aBXdNDnrutA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=U5ZzPLTfe7WqYs8t
I'll check it out
I wonder at what point in her life she left the church
And the Christmas ban.....she means the puritans! In england it was all during the Cromwell era. The only time the UK didn't have a monarchy...it makes so much sense, it was an austere practice where most celebrations were seen as sinful 😂
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Abby Cox ( @AbbyCox ) has a video up recently that includes some of the origin stories about Black Friday. She does mention the Army Navy game, but only in the context of bringing more people into the city and causing headaches for the police. Abby is a fashion historian who does a good job of sourcing her videos.
Lindsay is so funny. In her Retro React today, Anna tried QVC. It is everything one could hope for.
A game based on untangling string? Sounds a game my neurodivergent brain would come up with
Sounds like untangling Christmas tree lights- which no one on earth ever enjoyed.
Don’t you think she was talking specifically about Christmas gifts, not all gift giving everywhere? I think you are conflating all the December “holiday” traditions with “Christmas” in a way that she doesn’t. Once again, not defining terms is muddying the waters, shocker. As far as the other things go, craziness in need of fact checking. I had to laugh about you using Wikipedia as a source, considering I would never let my students cite Wikipedia in an academic paper. It’s so difficult, because some Wikipedia pages are excellent, and others are …not. Anyway, this is shaping up to be a fun series and I’m glad you’re doing it.😅
It's possible, but even then not really correct?
@@TinyBlueAnthropologistI’ve just watched the second video in this series and I formally give up being an Anna apologist. Her scholarship issues go well beyond definition of terms. 😂
Misinformation seems to be a specialty of Anna’s.
I believe Anna is talking specifically about gift giving on Christmas
💜💜💜. The US didn't even exist until 1776 so something couldn't be illegal in the US until it existed. It would have been banned in the Americas but not illegal in the US
It was technically illegal in part of the US. It was banned in Massachusetts until, well, local sources vary, but somewhere between 1840 and 1850. But that's a small section. Not the most accurate. The info seems to be in museum collections not listed online yet, so makes sense Snopes doesn't have access.
Thank god for an anthropologist on board. These days (2024) we can trace gift-giving back a minimum of 11,000 years ago, along with a multitude of reasons for said gift giving: such as homage to a superior/ruling class; as a bride price; as a gift to spare execution; you get the picture. One comment I would make is that people like Anna in 2024 have well and truly drunk from the cup of commercialism and capitalism which allow us to grace those in our good favour, and subtly snub our in-laws or whoever.
I worked retail for 26 years. Black Friday has traumatized me! 🎀
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And I’m not taking it down like Anna either lol
I think she said why gift giving for the “Christmas”holiday was based on the 3 wisemen. Christmas is the key word. But maybe she just said gift giving? Not trying to get in a Catholic religious bent but that is a correct attribution for the reason gifts are given on Christmas- religious tradition.
She gives major Bob's Burgers annoying teenager vibes.
I'm just shocked at how much her body has changed in 8 yrs; she doesn't have those hanging knees here...🎀🎀🎀
You expect someone to grow as a person, devolving seems to be more Anna lately....
I wish she was still self-aware like in her Blog days... I'd be so supportive of her...
🎀 I am not in the mood for Anna's bs. I played this while putting my farm delivery away.
If Anna did any research on the origins of Black Friday, she would've seen multiple origins.
College football is on Saturdays. 6:19
Anna should do a "things as I believe" section just to have fun, have a laugh, knowing is not factual just a trol video and would be a sensation. The same as Amber, but since they do believe in the wrong, as a fact, they will not tolerate the "bscklash"
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You’re from Philly? Same! The year we won the Super Bowl, my employer gave us the day off because they knew everyone would call out to go to the parade anyway.
That was a fun year 🎉
So I used to go to the Army Navy game with my dad who was Navy. I don’t remember any fights or anything crazy. Plus, the teams are from West Point and Annapolis so they’re not even Philadelphia teams. Now Philadelphia teams playing? That’s another story.😂
The goblin in me was kind of tempted to post a “sorry Tiny Blue but you’re incorrect” themed comment and link the original Anna videos as my sources of proof 😂😂
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Defamation and slander! Had to put that in here since it's all we've been hearing from Amby lately.
Yes, we Jews gift all year long on holidays in honor of Jesus, no matter what we celebrate.. Passover, the New Year, Hannuka, sure - it's all about the Jesus 🙄
My American huzzband is always amazed that me, a Jewish girl, uses "Jesus Christ" and one of my most used cuss words. Here's a fun fact for ya, Anna.
She's hyper again. What was she on back then?! Insecurity and young(er) age, I'd say.
Congrats on 10K!!!! 🎀
Anna O’Brien- unreliable narrator. 🎀
Wow even at normal speed my ears would still scream torture listening to her.
So Amber’s latest video was her crying about her cat rarity. I feel very coldhearted because it seemed very disingenuous. I would love your take on this.
I saw it, and It's just her showing off for the audience
I love the longer format videos!
these are just quickies.
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It was hilarious 😂
Congrats on all the Ks!
Why does she have a Fan blowing directly on the Mic?! 😣😖
its the wind
It feels so weird that even I knew the correct history of Black Friday and I'm not even from America. And Black Friday in Germany is a similar, but whole other thing culturally amd historically (and yes, it was in part brought over from the US in the late 2000's/took off in the 2010's)
Anyway, fun video as always and love your commentary, looking forward to the other reactions!
She’s pretty in that first clip! I know it was a long time ago and I know I looked better when I was younger, too 😅 but it just shows how important it is try to stay as fit and healthy as one can 😕
18:11 that sounds like something they told her at her fundie schools
Honestly, I think Black Friday is this kind of ambiguous term and concept with people, in typical American fashion, where we blend facts and events together so we really never know the truth. And to be fair, frequently something starts over in this place as one thing and over in this other distant place as something else and spread although neither origin story is wrong. I don’t know about historical Black Friday because I don’t think it’s a historical thing. I think it’s a modern post-yuppy thing, so 1990’s. The way it had been explained to me by my high-school economics teacher in 2004 was that it was named black because retailers HOPED they would go into the black from dismal sales, and being in the red, previously. Hence Black Friday. This particular teacher also taught us that, although there had previously been precious metal funding the treasury and standing behind the value of our dollar, that was no longer the case and hadn’t been for over a century. He taught us that money has value because governments say money has value, which was a very true and important lesson for me. My logic has been if he can teach me such reasonable critical things, sociopathic humans that run retailers probably went on a superstitious lark in naming Black Friday and that makes the most sense for that title.
Historically Black Friday has meant a lot of things, but shopping it was the 1960s because of the shopping day prior to the Army Navy football game. It had to do with, as the wiki said, the congestion in town, especially with so few people actually buying things because they didn't want to cart things home after the game. So it was a nightmare of traffic, largely of window shoppers waiting for game day.
I actually saw an article once (source: lost in the mists of time) that said sports violence was often worse by the winning side rather than the losers. Guess the losers are tucked away licking their wounds somewhere...
Another article (source: ditto) said apparently researchers had found wikipedia to be at least as accurate as the Encyclopedia Brittanica. I imagine the same factor that can make it unreliable - the ability to edit - also makes it easy to correct. Plus their checking and control processes have probably evolved since the wild early days.
The wiki isn't perfect but for what we're doing in the video it's fine
@TinyBlueAnthropologist indeed! Not sure whether I made it clear enough but I was trying to support it against the usual "you can't use wikipedia" complaints.
There was a recent malicious editing scandal in the ultrarunning world that reminded me that there are actually more controls than we might realise!
Sounds like Christmas was just banned in that colony.
Enjoyed this! Seemed to be right in your anthropological/archaeological wheelhouse. Definitely caught my interest.
The irony of Christmas being banned on strict Christian religious grounds is...amusing...
Wow, surprise surprise Anna can’t do research.
She's talking about holiday roulette a Victorian tradition where a gift is hidden underneath a random cup/plate and every guest pulls a string. The one who pulls the right string wins the prize usually it was something small like a chocolate or orange
As a Pagan, Winter solstice has been celebrated for 1,000’s of years before Christ.
These are pseudo facts! 😂
We have records showing it was celebrated in neolithic times at the earliest but could be even further just may be from pre-recorded history
ive nothing against pagans, in fact i prefer them over "christians" who are also pagans but too stupid to know it cause they dont actually read the bible. christmas has nothing to do with jesus christ. fun fact i wish more self proclaimed christians knew
19:30 Oh, here's a comment of more value: I know that many Christian branches do teach that the gifts of the wise men (aka Magi) had symbolic significance, though some only describe it as "really expensive gifts you'd give a king because the wise men expected a king". I think my church taught it was gold = king, frankincense = worship, and myrrh foreshadowed death (which Wikipedia also lists).
However my assumption was (and is also confirmed @ Wiki sources) these theories of the symbolism were interpreted at later dates by both Christian and secular scholars, and while they may be correct perhaps, it's also noted we have a piece of recorded history that these three gifts" were offered to Apollo hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus.
It is worth nothing that the specific identities of the three Magi are not in the bible at all, but were developed as later traditions. In fact it doesn't actually specify there were three of them, just that there were three gifts. 🤷
As a long-time Philadelphia sports fan, she probably confused the Philly shopping origin to the bad reputation that the sports team has. Though this team I think the teams are innocent in this story.😂
This time at least
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I get the feeling that Anna doesnt actually know what a sitting room is and that largely (in the UK anyway) this is one and the same as a living room these days.
Army Navy game is on Saturdays, it is on the 14th this year
Tasting History with Max Miller has a really interesting video on Election Cake and how the puritans turned Election Day into a big celebration for all the other celebrations they disallowed in the puritanical colonies.
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I’m going to keep this as simple and logical for the people who have difficulty understanding the impact pre-Christian society has on us but are for some reason making videos. When they made the trip to Jerusalem, Jesus’s mother was Jewish, correct? Joseph was Jewish, correct? Correct. Ok. Judaism predates Christianity by at least 1,500 years. That means that, minimally, Jewish culture was a part of the birth of Jesus. So minimally, Jewish culture of that time was to bring gifts to families that made the pilgrimage to Jerusalem particularly if the family had a newborn baby. Chances are they weren’t “gifts”, they were probably so the family wouldn’t starve during the pilgrimage. But anyways, the point is gift giving was not a new concept because of Christianity. Gift giving has been done for millennia for two main purposes- to garner favor and encourage allegiance or to express favor, admiration, and love.
Oh, and the idea of gift giving during the winter (with Christmas) isn’t that elusive either. Winter has always been known as a harsh time for survival in non-tropical places. Feudal lords would have had to have given their people food and goods without the exchange of labor during the Middle Ages otherwise their entire workforce would have been dead by spring harvest time plus there weren’t crops to tend to in the winter. The only weird part there is considering it a “gift” to give your employee food and shelter to survive the winter when they literally can’t work for you and can’t go elsewhere. Even the most ignorant of us know how human history is strange and brutal and it’s absolutely mind-boggling that she has no concept of that.
Stop with your insolent logic!
@@TinyBlueAnthropologist I will not. It’s taken me 38 years to earn this logic. It’s not going anywhere. Jk of course lol awesome videos! Thank you, Tiny!
Is this what you meant about the first retro reactmas being a trap?
Yes lol
I can't find anything on riots or huge army navy game fights either. Closet found was a 10 person brawl at a bar afterwards over a tab
Ugh... my historian self is cringing so hard, in part because Snopes is wrong. 😱
I can't fault Snopes here because a majority of the documents are not listed online, so someone would actually have to visit a lot of archives, and that would be a lot of work. So Massachusetts historians generally seem to agree that Christmas remained illegal in Massachusetts until the 1830s or 1840s, and was basically universally not celebrated here until the 1850s. Old Sturbridge Village has a nice little display as a part of their Christmas event that discusses how they decided to interpret Christmas in the 1830s when Chrisrmas wasn’t a thing in Mass and businesses were expexted to operate on Christmas day. It's just not widely known because it was just our state. So, yes, it was illegal in the US, but only in one singular state. That's a whole boatload of different than "illegal in the US" implies, especially since it's not like we're talking a large state. Its one of the smallest in the US.
Two, the Black Friday thing does have to do with the Army Navy game. That's the reason traffic was so bad in Philadelphia in particular. People would come into town the day before to shop and would stay for the game, so it was more shoppers in town than would otherwise be expected by quite a lot, adding to the local holiday that already existed. Abby Cox has an amazing video on this whole topic.
But the "rebrand" idea, it's more that the term leaked beyond it's original borders, and when people didn't know the reason it was called Black Friday, a myth started that sounded like it was probably right, and ir spread because it made more sense to people who didn’t know about origin, and research on the internet was a long ways off at that point. Same thing happened to the origins of Thanksgiving as a national holiday, which nowhere mentions Pilgrims, yet here we are. Instead of promoting unity between the fractured North and South in the Civil War, we have an inaccurate take on a harvest festival that was not a day of Thanksgiving because that would be a fast, not a feast, and it only warrented a one liner in the diary of William Bradford, which is how we even know it happened at all.
I have a feeling I'm gonna hate these so much. Historians and anthropologists, we get it.
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love your hair!
🎳 ok so this is what my emoji search came up with for ‘bow’! 🎀 but it did find it in the end!
I’m so early!! What do I say
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This whole video made me want to 🤦🤦🤦 She reminds me of the video version of one of those BuzzFeed top ten faux-articles.
Whitsun/Whitsunday is the what Anglicans and Methodists call Pentecost. It's the 7th Sunday after Easter
Edit it's more specific to the Anglicans/Methodists in England not sure if the US Anglicans/Methodists call it Pentecost or Whitsun
America wasn't founded until 1776, Anna!
🎀🎀🎀 wow, where did Anna get her facts from… cracker jacks box ?
No jail in Lincoln Financial Field but there was a jail in Veterans Stadium. Judge Seamus McCaffrey presiding.
My buddy was booked there for peeing in the ladies room all loaded.
Tiny and all the commenters giving way more facts than Anna!
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So the jail is basically a bar?
Lol I guess
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Anna said Black Friday is named for black people stealing from stores after Thanksgiving?! LMAO. We can always count on her!
When did she say this?
@Goonerette75 When she was explaining how it got it's name in this video
She didn’t actually say black people. She just said people were looting and breaking shit because of the army/navy game and didn’t explain why the name “Black Friday” specifically was used
@nightsgrow6575 Oh okay.
Oh just caught that. No it's just Philadelphians breaking things.
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