for me its always the smallest things that make this so amazing, like Ames subtle twitch when hearing Guras name, or the council reference with Sana glitching
I've noticed that most people miss a key detail that is important. in the clouds at the end, we see the symbol of iris, which is a part of project hope. i think this means in the bad ending she was too late to help, but in the good ending she saves the day. also the artist said we are living in the good ending.
I did miss a lot in this video, watching and commentating on it. But I feel like no matter how many times I watch it, I always notice new things. Love your theory! It would make a lot of sense! Thank you so much for the comment!❤
Yes, I seem to be lagging behind on all the inside jokes/easter eggs. Sadly, I don't have time to watch Hololive as much as I want to. Which is one of the reason I started doing reactions to them. Since my life if either work or making content, it gives me a little more of a chance to catch up.
You're welcome. And thank you darling. I knew you would like it. Well i mean, what's not to like lol. But i had a feeling you would appreciate it. I believe it took him like 3 years. Legendary. Fun fact: the Ame with the mushroom is Watato. It refers to her character in the TTRPG they played with Calli.
The Vtuber or just hololive fan base is so large it draws in a lot of talent. I’m new here, I really like your avatar if you did it yourself it’s really good.
Thanks. I did make my model myself. I'm working on a new one right now. The art style is quite different so we'll see if it's better or worse once I'm done rigging it ^^; But I agree. So many talented people! :o
If you think about it whenever someone watches the video it technically restarts the bad timeline thus Ame continues to die because we keep making the bad ending happen by "restarting" the bad ending universe
you missed the part where the camera pulls back. you can see iryis's symbol in the clouds."hope". it is iryis's influence that creates the "good" timeline.
Thank you for being one of the very few people who watched the movie to the every end, almost everyone stops once credits roll and miss the "Retry/Quit" screen at the end, which I think is the most crucial thing to this whole movie. My theory is that it was the endless sacrifices of Amelias who kept hoping for a better outcome, destroying the entire universe over and over, that was the trigger that gave rise to Hope aka IRyS. And IRyS changed the outcome whereby everyone ends up joining Hololive, and due to the power of YAGOO AO-chan is contained and not taking over Ina, like what happened in all the previous times. It was that souls-like perseverance not to give up, but to keep choosing "Retry" by Ame that changed the fate of the entire universe. That's my theory anyway.
The one refrence I see missed most in this is actually right in plain sight. That is the character that offers Ame the mushroom. Like all the other Ames are callbacks, the mushroom giver is Watoto, her character from the Myth Tabletop RPG they played together.
Thing is, people like me who react to this are still new to Hololive. ( I was at the time) otherwise would have reacted to it there second it came out. So a lot of people don’t have the knowledge to find all the Easter eggs and understand all these characters. I’ve personally watched this video hundred of time after this to try to understand a lot more of the things I missed when I first watched it.
so to clarify a whole bunch of stuff, this is not from any videogames or music videos or anything, each and every one of the hololive characters have their own established lore which keeps getting expanded upon (kind of like the SCP database thats curated by a massive community of people who just make their own stories related to it) with HoloEN(Hololive English) having 2 major branches, HoloMYTH and HoloCouncil (to be elaborated in a minute), and on top of that the clue is in the name of the video : "Hololive Myth's Bad Ending", which means that this didnt happen to this timeline but a previous one, whereas this timeline is considered as the good ending. now to elaborate on HoloMyth and HoloCouncil: HoloMyth is the Gen 1 group that was first introduced, with Gura, Calliope, Kiara, Watson, and Ina 1. Gawr Gura is an ancient atlantean mythical shark being who wields the Trident of Poseidon and has a past clouded largely by missing memories, her kingdom of atlantis was annihilated by what might have been the ancient ones before they were sealed and imprisoned by previous generations of priestesses of the ancient ones. this event may have happened eons ago since gura is apparently over 9000 years old, though exact age is impossible to determine because she is horribly bad at math. 2. Mori Calliope is the Grim Reapers apprentice and wields a similar amount of power as the God of Death himself, she is destined to inherit the mantle of the Grim Reaper in the future but prefers to live among the realm of mortals to express herself with rap music and make friends, her patron the Grim Reaper is often apprehensive of her behavior but secretly supports her choices regardless. she also has a romantic relationship with Kiara. 3. Kiara Takahashi is a mythical legendary phoenix of unknown age, and is possibly a very young incarnation of a much more ancient divine being. she wields all of the powers of the fabled mythical phoenix including the ability to burn through anything and the ability to revive the dead, however she has an unusual fascination for starting a venture as a fast food fried chicken catering service using her own followers as both workforce and ingredients. she is incredibly fluent in a number of languages most notably german and japanese and acts as the unofficial translator between the HoloEN and HoloJP groups. 4. Amelia Watson is a self proclaimed detective that originally discovered all of these otherworldly beings and sought to unite them under the banner of friendship and tomfoolery, she is a smart and gifted human who is capable of extrapolating information from the unlikeliest of sources, and is most noteworthy for having "borrowed" (stolen) Ouro Kronii's Timekeeper Pocket-watch, which acts as an extension of Kronii's inate power to traverse through time, however she is limited by her mortality and can only use the pocket-watch after accurately calculating a possible time vector, of which the destination is entirely uncertain since the possibilities of the multiverse is endless. only Kronii can traverse time with ease. 5. Ninomae Ina'nis is a priestess of a long line of priestess families and lineages under the divine sect of the ancient ones, she was chosen by the divine grimoire "Ao-chan" to become the current priestess of the ancient ones, and is soul-bound to inherit the sacred seal of the ancient ones, holding back the immense tide of the ancient ones from breaching this reality and causing the end of existence. she created takodachi's using the borrowed power of the putrid goddess of fertility shub niggurath's profane power in order to stem the tide of the ancient ones and reinforce the seal holding them at bay. ina is otherwise a really light hearted and kind girl who loves to draw and sleep on cold surfaces. (also for lovecraft fans: the ancient ones = the outer gods) additionally there are the HoloCouncil who are substantially more powerful than the holomyth girls themselves, they are primordial beings that were born at the beginning of creation, and are the administrators of the multiverse. each representing an elemental aspect of the fundamental inner workings of reality itself. i wont elaborate too much on them since i'm only mentioning them because of their logos on the back wall of the theater in the video. 1. Hakos Baelz is the harbinger of chaos, she is a genderless being of unfathomable power in her true form, but generally takes the appearance of a mouse-like girl. Baelz is the only holocouncil member who can directly circumvent the natural laws and order of the universe set by the other holocouncil members, and acts as a spokesperson for all of them. it is believed that while Baelz represents chaos and mischief on the surface level, she may unknowingly be an agent that mitigates the eventual heat death of the universe. 2. Nanashi Mumei is the Guardian of Civilization and was an elemental concept born from the consciousness of mankind as the living embodiment of the total sum of mankind's efforts, representing the mark that humans have left upon the universe. Mumei takes the appearance of a genderless divine owl of wisdom in her true form, and takes the form of an owl-like girl in general. her age is approximate 2.8 million years old (about as old as the first pre-sapient hominid) 3. Ceres Fauna is the Keeper of Nature and a primordial druid of Gaia, and exercises complete authority over all of nature, flora and fauna. she is an extradimensional being that manipulates the laws of nature at a fundamental level of acausality, thus introducing changes to past, present, and future, simultaneously, and at all times. without her limiter she has comparatively similar levels of power as Sana, as life exists in all things across all universes. 4. Ouro Kronii is the Warden of Time, a divine being that is the purest embodiment of time itself. an extradimensional being, Kronii affects the present, past, and future simultaneously on a deep conscious level, exerting little to no effort to manipulate all of time all at once, she doesnt experience the same limitations as amelia watson in such that she does not require any temporal coordinate extrapolation to identify her destination, she can travel through any point in time on but a single thought. 5. Tsukumo Sana is (former hololive member - graduation) the speaker of space, the truest embodiment of the multiverse itself. with her limiter removed she maintains her human appearance but at an astronomical 5AU (astronomical units) or 837,800,000 kilometers tall. she was born with the creation of the multiverse itself, all at once, simultaneously, and is thus its primary anchor of causality. while she is incapable of creating entirely new universes, she is capable of affecting any kind of change no matter how significant upon the universe on a whim, with her ability to control space she can also distort time within the area with unfathomable gravitational fields, her control over the very fabrics of reality is unrivaled. however due to her graduation her role has since been left empty on automatic mode, and reality as a consequence as begun to steadily unwind. to clarify on how or why ina could have possibly lost control like this, its not likely caused by some minor disagreements with her holomyth friends, but far more likely was a result of her grief from the loss of Tsukumo Sana. in the video's universe it appears that ina never became an idol and never created takodachi's, which severely weakened her seal unknowingly. her grief and depression upon hearing that Sana was graduating was the catalyst that started to crack the seal, and by the time she realized it was too late, the ancient ones took over her body and feasted on her negative emotions, rampaging across the city in the vain attempt to assuage her stricken grief. before she realized it she fought her own friends and nearly took gura's life, forcing her to snap conscious and intervene, but it was too late, the ancient ones were free. all was lost. or so we thought... as we see in the video ame travels across time and space to a place managed by the holocouncil, though the council members are not present you can see their emblems glowing on the wall, with sana's glitching in and out of reality. it is unclear why it is glitching but it is implied that sana isn't merely graduating but fading away. many ame's have attempted to change the timeline to save their friends, but only found that they could only reverse time back into the very beginning, the big bang. time will always repeat itself, and will always repeat the same conclusion. so... what changed...? that is the million dollar question. it is believed that ame didnt fully pass away in the last attempt, and possibly that shortly after rewinding time kronii took notice and investigated the administration room (theater), finding many ame's on the ground, she presumed the worst, but found one with eyes who's soul hasn't fully left yet. reversing her time she manages to temporarily save ame (not permanently since causality is absolute in mortals), ame tells her what happened, and possibly how to stop it from happening again. by recruiting ina as an idol member, letting her create countless tako's, and creating a chance for ina and sana to properly find closure together (which all happened in this timeline), thus creating a present where the good ending exists. of course this is all theory... a game theory...! (lol), but seriously ina and sana loved eachother (as friends) very much and ina was so heartbroken during sana's graduation, so i wouldn't fault her at all for it. ina is so gentle and kind, so she deserves all the love and kindness she gets.
Thanks for sharing your interpretation! It was really interesting to read. I’m sorry but I skipped to your interpretation though since I already know about the EN members 😳 I started watching Hololive after watching Ina stream first and love everyone.
5:56 PAUSE... Yes I've already watched that video and I,m also done watching this one, too. Nothing ruins a reaction video for me quite like incessant pausing.
That's fair. In principle, I try to pause to either put more thought into what I say, and so that people actually go watch the original because I feel dirty relying solely on other people's content. I was also extremely new to making reaction content, still am. But I know my style of reaction and my thought process is not for everyone, and it's ok. Thanks for the feedback.
for me its always the smallest things that make this so amazing, like Ames subtle twitch when hearing Guras name, or the council reference with Sana glitching
I don’t know all the Easter eggs but I have noticed how amazing the fan videos are full of amazing Easter eggs.
I wish I was this creative!
You can't forget the symbol of Irys when she "goes back" in time... as hope...
The Amelia with the shroom was Watoto, from their TTRPG playthrough~
Thanks! I still have a lot of content to catch up on! I sadly don’t have time to watch all the VODs I want to 😭
I've noticed that most people miss a key detail that is important. in the clouds at the end, we see the symbol of iris, which is a part of project hope. i think this means in the bad ending she was too late to help, but in the good ending she saves the day. also the artist said we are living in the good ending.
I did miss a lot in this video, watching and commentating on it. But I feel like no matter how many times I watch it, I always notice new things.
Love your theory! It would make a lot of sense!
Thank you so much for the comment!❤
The light you saw in the clouds was IRyS
I feel like I need to watch a few times to get all the details! Thanks for the insight!
Imagine making Fan animation SO GOOD that the ppl you animated want to voice act to your animation.
The Quality of this is mind blowing 🤯🤯🤯
Omg I know!!!! It’s toooooo good! Some people are so talented!
"Mazumaro. I shift my head slightly lower than usual to you."
If I had a 3D model I could bow, but this is the lower this 2D model goes 🤣 I had not forseen the need for bowing when I rigged it 🤣
Berserk Ina is what Ann looks like when she hasn't had her morning coffee. Thanks for the cute watchalong!
Hahaha 🤣 true.
the ame that is holding the mushroom is watoto
Yes, I seem to be lagging behind on all the inside jokes/easter eggs. Sadly, I don't have time to watch Hololive as much as I want to. Which is one of the reason I started doing reactions to them. Since my life if either work or making content, it gives me a little more of a chance to catch up.
Thank you for the fun reaction, enjoyed it so much I have subscribed 😊 looking forward to your streams!
Thank you so much! ☺️
Remembering that EVERYONE has already said that they are willing to raise their voices... Now just hope to have time and everything...
I too cried a lot but after watching it many times I can finally manage
I don’t think I can ever watch this without crying!!! 😅 I should rewatch it again see if I can spot new things I missed!
You're welcome. And thank you darling. I knew you would like it. Well i mean, what's not to like lol. But i had a feeling you would appreciate it. I believe it took him like 3 years. Legendary.
Fun fact: the Ame with the mushroom is Watato. It refers to her character in the TTRPG they played with Calli.
It was so good! Thank you for the suggestion! I still have a lot to catch up on. Thank you for the insight too!
It took Mazumaru 1 and a half years.
Trully Legendary. ^^
@@neksuscat amazing
It's not sad, the point is WE are living the Good Ending.
Thankfully yes!!! 💖
alas, none of us know. We're not living a good or bad ending yet, because the movie is still playing.
We'll see. I only hope you're right.
New here and to stay here. Hope you enjoy yourself and best of luck fulfilling your dreams
Thank you so much!!!
I’ll definitely do my best!
Thanks for the lovely comment! 💕
Always fun discovering new vtubers, heres to one fay you getting your own cool animation by a fan :D
Thank you so much!!!
That’s so nice! 🥰
@@Inariann The hardest part is starting, great job with all that hard work
The Vtuber or just hololive fan base is so large it draws in a lot of talent.
I’m new here, I really like your avatar if you did it yourself it’s really good.
Thanks. I did make my model myself. I'm working on a new one right now. The art style is quite different so we'll see if it's better or worse once I'm done rigging it ^^;
But I agree. So many talented people! :o
Thank you for fun chill stream and hi new here😁😁😁
Welcome
Thank you for the comment! It’s really appreciated!
@@Inariann your welcome 😁
@@kylepirigyi9347 thank you
If you think about it whenever someone watches the video it technically restarts the bad timeline thus Ame continues to die because we keep making the bad ending happen by "restarting" the bad ending universe
you missed the part where the camera pulls back. you can see iryis's symbol in the clouds."hope". it is iryis's influence that creates the "good" timeline.
I hope not! D: I'd feel so bad for watching this so many times since making my first reaction to this.!
@@edt3594 IDK if Iryis made a good ending, but perhaps her presence makes the good ending possible, as opposed to a forgone conclusion?
Thank you for being one of the very few people who watched the movie to the every end, almost everyone stops once credits roll and miss the "Retry/Quit" screen at the end, which I think is the most crucial thing to this whole movie.
My theory is that it was the endless sacrifices of Amelias who kept hoping for a better outcome, destroying the entire universe over and over, that was the trigger that gave rise to Hope aka IRyS. And IRyS changed the outcome whereby everyone ends up joining Hololive, and due to the power of YAGOO AO-chan is contained and not taking over Ina, like what happened in all the previous times.
It was that souls-like perseverance not to give up, but to keep choosing "Retry" by Ame that changed the fate of the entire universe.
That's my theory anyway.
Did many people skipped the end??? 😮
That's a really nice theory. I really like it!
I feel like Ame would not give up on a friend either.
The one refrence I see missed most in this is actually right in plain sight. That is the character that offers Ame the mushroom. Like all the other Ames are callbacks, the mushroom giver is Watoto, her character from the Myth Tabletop RPG they played together.
Thing is, people like me who react to this are still new to Hololive. ( I was at the time) otherwise would have reacted to it there second it came out. So a lot of people don’t have the knowledge to find all the Easter eggs and understand all these characters.
I’ve personally watched this video hundred of time after this to try to understand a lot more of the things I missed when I first watched it.
so to clarify a whole bunch of stuff, this is not from any videogames or music videos or anything, each and every one of the hololive characters have their own established lore which keeps getting expanded upon (kind of like the SCP database thats curated by a massive community of people who just make their own stories related to it) with HoloEN(Hololive English) having 2 major branches, HoloMYTH and HoloCouncil (to be elaborated in a minute), and on top of that the clue is in the name of the video : "Hololive Myth's Bad Ending", which means that this didnt happen to this timeline but a previous one, whereas this timeline is considered as the good ending.
now to elaborate on HoloMyth and HoloCouncil:
HoloMyth is the Gen 1 group that was first introduced, with Gura, Calliope, Kiara, Watson, and Ina
1. Gawr Gura is an ancient atlantean mythical shark being who wields the Trident of Poseidon and has a past clouded largely by missing memories, her kingdom of atlantis was annihilated by what might have been the ancient ones before they were sealed and imprisoned by previous generations of priestesses of the ancient ones. this event may have happened eons ago since gura is apparently over 9000 years old, though exact age is impossible to determine because she is horribly bad at math.
2. Mori Calliope is the Grim Reapers apprentice and wields a similar amount of power as the God of Death himself, she is destined to inherit the mantle of the Grim Reaper in the future but prefers to live among the realm of mortals to express herself with rap music and make friends, her patron the Grim Reaper is often apprehensive of her behavior but secretly supports her choices regardless. she also has a romantic relationship with Kiara.
3. Kiara Takahashi is a mythical legendary phoenix of unknown age, and is possibly a very young incarnation of a much more ancient divine being. she wields all of the powers of the fabled mythical phoenix including the ability to burn through anything and the ability to revive the dead, however she has an unusual fascination for starting a venture as a fast food fried chicken catering service using her own followers as both workforce and ingredients. she is incredibly fluent in a number of languages most notably german and japanese and acts as the unofficial translator between the HoloEN and HoloJP groups.
4. Amelia Watson is a self proclaimed detective that originally discovered all of these otherworldly beings and sought to unite them under the banner of friendship and tomfoolery, she is a smart and gifted human who is capable of extrapolating information from the unlikeliest of sources, and is most noteworthy for having "borrowed" (stolen) Ouro Kronii's Timekeeper Pocket-watch, which acts as an extension of Kronii's inate power to traverse through time, however she is limited by her mortality and can only use the pocket-watch after accurately calculating a possible time vector, of which the destination is entirely uncertain since the possibilities of the multiverse is endless. only Kronii can traverse time with ease.
5. Ninomae Ina'nis is a priestess of a long line of priestess families and lineages under the divine sect of the ancient ones, she was chosen by the divine grimoire "Ao-chan" to become the current priestess of the ancient ones, and is soul-bound to inherit the sacred seal of the ancient ones, holding back the immense tide of the ancient ones from breaching this reality and causing the end of existence. she created takodachi's using the borrowed power of the putrid goddess of fertility shub niggurath's profane power in order to stem the tide of the ancient ones and reinforce the seal holding them at bay. ina is otherwise a really light hearted and kind girl who loves to draw and sleep on cold surfaces. (also for lovecraft fans: the ancient ones = the outer gods)
additionally there are the HoloCouncil who are substantially more powerful than the holomyth girls themselves, they are primordial beings that were born at the beginning of creation, and are the administrators of the multiverse. each representing an elemental aspect of the fundamental inner workings of reality itself. i wont elaborate too much on them since i'm only mentioning them because of their logos on the back wall of the theater in the video.
1. Hakos Baelz is the harbinger of chaos, she is a genderless being of unfathomable power in her true form, but generally takes the appearance of a mouse-like girl. Baelz is the only holocouncil member who can directly circumvent the natural laws and order of the universe set by the other holocouncil members, and acts as a spokesperson for all of them. it is believed that while Baelz represents chaos and mischief on the surface level, she may unknowingly be an agent that mitigates the eventual heat death of the universe.
2. Nanashi Mumei is the Guardian of Civilization and was an elemental concept born from the consciousness of mankind as the living embodiment of the total sum of mankind's efforts, representing the mark that humans have left upon the universe. Mumei takes the appearance of a genderless divine owl of wisdom in her true form, and takes the form of an owl-like girl in general. her age is approximate 2.8 million years old (about as old as the first pre-sapient hominid)
3. Ceres Fauna is the Keeper of Nature and a primordial druid of Gaia, and exercises complete authority over all of nature, flora and fauna. she is an extradimensional being that manipulates the laws of nature at a fundamental level of acausality, thus introducing changes to past, present, and future, simultaneously, and at all times. without her limiter she has comparatively similar levels of power as Sana, as life exists in all things across all universes.
4. Ouro Kronii is the Warden of Time, a divine being that is the purest embodiment of time itself. an extradimensional being, Kronii affects the present, past, and future simultaneously on a deep conscious level, exerting little to no effort to manipulate all of time all at once, she doesnt experience the same limitations as amelia watson in such that she does not require any temporal coordinate extrapolation to identify her destination, she can travel through any point in time on but a single thought.
5. Tsukumo Sana is (former hololive member - graduation) the speaker of space, the truest embodiment of the multiverse itself. with her limiter removed she maintains her human appearance but at an astronomical 5AU (astronomical units) or 837,800,000 kilometers tall. she was born with the creation of the multiverse itself, all at once, simultaneously, and is thus its primary anchor of causality. while she is incapable of creating entirely new universes, she is capable of affecting any kind of change no matter how significant upon the universe on a whim, with her ability to control space she can also distort time within the area with unfathomable gravitational fields, her control over the very fabrics of reality is unrivaled. however due to her graduation her role has since been left empty on automatic mode, and reality as a consequence as begun to steadily unwind.
to clarify on how or why ina could have possibly lost control like this, its not likely caused by some minor disagreements with her holomyth friends, but far more likely was a result of her grief from the loss of Tsukumo Sana. in the video's universe it appears that ina never became an idol and never created takodachi's, which severely weakened her seal unknowingly. her grief and depression upon hearing that Sana was graduating was the catalyst that started to crack the seal, and by the time she realized it was too late, the ancient ones took over her body and feasted on her negative emotions, rampaging across the city in the vain attempt to assuage her stricken grief. before she realized it she fought her own friends and nearly took gura's life, forcing her to snap conscious and intervene, but it was too late, the ancient ones were free. all was lost.
or so we thought...
as we see in the video ame travels across time and space to a place managed by the holocouncil, though the council members are not present you can see their emblems glowing on the wall, with sana's glitching in and out of reality. it is unclear why it is glitching but it is implied that sana isn't merely graduating but fading away. many ame's have attempted to change the timeline to save their friends, but only found that they could only reverse time back into the very beginning, the big bang. time will always repeat itself, and will always repeat the same conclusion. so... what changed...? that is the million dollar question.
it is believed that ame didnt fully pass away in the last attempt, and possibly that shortly after rewinding time kronii took notice and investigated the administration room (theater), finding many ame's on the ground, she presumed the worst, but found one with eyes who's soul hasn't fully left yet. reversing her time she manages to temporarily save ame (not permanently since causality is absolute in mortals), ame tells her what happened, and possibly how to stop it from happening again. by recruiting ina as an idol member, letting her create countless tako's, and creating a chance for ina and sana to properly find closure together (which all happened in this timeline), thus creating a present where the good ending exists.
of course this is all theory... a game theory...! (lol), but seriously ina and sana loved eachother (as friends) very much and ina was so heartbroken
during sana's graduation, so i wouldn't fault her at all for it. ina is so gentle and kind, so she deserves all the love and kindness she gets.
Thanks for sharing your interpretation! It was really interesting to read.
I’m sorry but I skipped to your interpretation though since I already know about the EN members 😳
I started watching Hololive after watching Ina stream first and love everyone.
5:56 PAUSE... Yes I've already watched that video and I,m also done watching this one, too. Nothing ruins a reaction video for me quite like incessant pausing.
That's fair. In principle, I try to pause to either put more thought into what I say, and so that people actually go watch the original because I feel dirty relying solely on other people's content. I was also extremely new to making reaction content, still am. But I know my style of reaction and my thought process is not for everyone, and it's ok.
Thanks for the feedback.