Thanks for a great in-depth review. I read somewhere that the armrest is also height adjustable, is that correct as I can't see anything on it's design to have that facility? I've had a test drive on the FR 2.0 tsi and found the armrest to be a little low for me. I'd much appreciate your advice. Thanks.
Thanks AJ. I've got my new Leon arriving in a few weeks and this review has been really helpful to show my family (who weren't around for the test drive) what they can expect. First class job.
When I first saw AJ do a review I wasn't so sure that I'd like him. But I have to say that his confidence has grown hugely in a short period of time! I like how he has his own personal intro line "Are you interested? Come on.......Let's Go!". It's like a signature and adds personality. Well done AJ and keep up the great work! Assuming Thomas is your mentor, you are learning from one of the best :-)
The design of the Seat Leon looks still very sharp and dynamic!! Great technical updates !! Really looking forward to the new CUPRA ST with 300hp and 4wd !!!! :) But I really appreciate the FR version. Another great episode of Autogefühl :))
Currently actually owning a ST version 2016 I have to say as a previous audi A3 owner I love my Seat. A lot of thought has gone into the newer models but not too sure about the new grill
Great review !! Even if it lacks the "sportiness" that is expected with such a sporty and powerful car. Wanted to see it behave on twisty roads, not in an industrial zone.
I really enjoyed your review and am considering buying a Leon FR now! The title is very off-putting as I was sceptical whether the review would be in English!
I have had a Leon for nearly three years. At no stage have I ever found the fuel gauge remotely confusing. The gauge on this face lift Leon is more or less identical to my 2015 Leon. I don't know how different the steering is, I certainly have no complaints on mine though.
Had this the 1.8 tsi in the fr spec for 3 years and loved it. The car never gave me an ounce of trouble. I'll wait until week 16 in 2017 for the Seats version of the virtual cockpit to become available.
Damn my leon cupra 290 was build that week in the factory and i want now the cupra 300 facelift because i love the new front bumper :/ i wonder if the facelift leon cupra 300 that will be announced February 2017 will have a bumper that can fit my 290 that will arrive next Month
The steering wheel problem is very interesting. I just bought the 2020 fr st version and the steering is excelent. I had exactly the opposite effect, that the steering is very crisp and does not feel artificial at all. Maybe Seat listened to your review :D
My 2016 Leon has led door lights! It wasn't carried over from the ateca at all, it's been on the Leon since 2013!! And it's available in 6speed manual and 7speed dsg (not 5speed manual like u said)
Nice detailed review AJ. Though I'm concerned you found the fuel gauge confusing, is it really??!! - the last thing we want is SEAT to stop doing cool gauges because some popular TH-cam reporter says it was confusing!!
14:01 this interior lighting system is the more importat thing in this car. you said it has no practical use... you're DEAD WRONG! Let me explain.... You're dating a new girl, you go to a decent restaurant and drink a little wine... The evening is about to end, you go back to the parking, but before moving you show her this lighting system with the changing colours... This is the signal. It says: "ok girl, this is the right moment to blow me". Believe me: it works. 100% guaranteed.
got the 1.4 TSI manual and i love it. looks great outside and inside, feels great on the road, it handles smooth even at high speeds and it's nice and quiet as well. it's a blast to drive and i can only recommend it.
On poor quality roads with 18" and Comfort mode in DCC comfort in on satisfactory level? What with noise level - you think that is better from model before lifting?
hi ! about the 1.6 tdi... what is the mechanical difference of "new" 1.6tdi 115cv and the "old" 1.6tdi 110cv? or the difference is only a software update of the ECU map? Thank you !
Thanks to autogefuhl i bought a new car. In my list were cars such as Astra, Focus, Octavia and Leon. Astra was first out....i missed paddles for shifting and also some other minor problems to me. Really hard decision for me came then. Octavia vs Leon with 1.8 TSI and DSG....both had the same price for me, although price list of Škoda is put in higher levels. Škoda has more room, more practical small hideouts in interior and electric opening for trunk. Thats it.....no charisma, no sexepeal and if u want good level of equipment u have to pay extra. So i picked Seat Leon ST 1.8 DSG in beautifull Desire Red and this black wheels. It is expensive but the best visual configuration for this car. Again thanks to autogefuehl i could chose that sporty beautifull red color....you showed it sooner, then it can be seen in Czech republic. Only con i found in Leon (and i really hoped AJ is not right there) is no responce in wheel....Really shame in sporty tuned estate. 1.8 is flawless, silent and very lively over 4000 RPM, DSG great as ever, but i dont know what is happening under my wheels even in sport mode (i have adaptive chassis). Keep going Thomas and your team.
Not all info seems correct... for ex. The Full Link existed already on the prev Leon but was just added after 2012 release. Interior lighting already existed in prev ... only red & white were available though (and only for FR trim i believe?)... But indeed, the GPS system still feels very cluncky for a 2017 car :-/. Good review overal!! :)
@@autogefuehl boheme purple. Looks great. But given I already own an opel gtc in emerald green (also love), I know I'm going to hate it also. Because the deep dark metallic colours you just can't keep clean. But oh boy do they look good when polished and waxed.
OMFG, this car looks so gorgeous! I'd rather buy a Seat than a VW, almost the same, but different. I like the Seat's cockpit and dashboard a lot more, for example. Seats are NOT boring cars for me.
Great review !. Can anyone advise or provide feedback on how the 1.4 TSI 125 hp is ? I'm looking to order with this engine but not found one to test drive. Does it feel sufficiently powerful ? How does it compare to the 1.4 TSI 150 bhp ?? Thanks.
thanks! Depends on your driving profile. Of course you cant expect much power on high speed motorway runs, but for calm driving and city driving its perfectly fine
Hi there!! Such a nice review, great job! I have a question regarding to the interior loudness when driving in the highway. Would you say that the noise is much better isolated than in the new Seat Ibiza 1.5 TSI?
AJ, you said the steering wheel feels too light but it's meant to be light at slow speeds to make it easier to manoeuvre around towns and cities and then it weights up and becomes more direct at higher speed. I saw on the review that you used local roads therefore i'm sure you didn't get to experience the steering qualities at high speed.
I have driven cupra ST 4wd. Price is good, i just doesn´t understand why dashboard needs to be soft if door panels and places what you are touching daily are hard plastic? Interior is fail, price is right. (Sorry for my bad language)
do you get the Color Display in the instrumentcluster with the 8" navigationssystem only? What do you get with the 6,5" Media System? Color or monochrome?
and in the facelift with the 8" Media System plus? it's quite weird. sometimes the configurator says 8" Media System plus in the Style and 6,5" Media System plus in the xcellence, wich doesnt make much sense to me...
Autogefühl I just asked Seat Germany. They told me with the facelift there are only 2 Display sizes. the 5" optional System for the Reference and serial System for the Style, aswell as the 8" Media System plus. They couldnt give me exact Information on the Display in the instrumentcluster but they believe it to be monochrome in Reference only. with xcellence you get the DOT-Matrix with and without Navigation.
Looks great and drives better but the estate version in FR trim looks even better in my opinion. And those seats display real (basic) leather on seating surface btw.
I can agree with that, i ordered an st, but a cupra!, and im fed up with the wait!, they're behind on building for once!!, its been set back twice, if i get another call from the dealer, informing of another month to wait......his ears will burst into flames!!, can't wait to get it. Great review matey. All the best.
Yes! In the .com website there is a picture of each upholstery, and it's a bit red, specially in the panels of the doors :(, I prefer the actual one www.seat.com/content/com/website/en/carworlds/new-leon-5d/design/vehicle-color-interior/cloth-techny-black-sport/_jcr_content.resizeViewPort.noScale.fileReferenceEng.jpg
Not enough emphasis on how well you can push the car in corners. Does it handle well at speed? Not much about the sound it makes. Not much about the acceleration.
this review is somehow funny , forgot to clean the cluster , about the steering wheel he said the coolest " and stuff like that " , and for the other things also we enjoyed the " things like that " 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Seat Leon Cupra Facelift full review: th-cam.com/video/6KkQPxaIvfY/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for a great in-depth review. I read somewhere that the armrest is also height adjustable, is that correct as I can't see anything on it's design to have that facility? I've had a test drive on the FR 2.0 tsi and found the armrest to be a little low for me. I'd much appreciate your advice. Thanks.
You have not seen our video of the reveal? then check it ou right here: th-cam.com/video/NkgKL4BkdIU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks AJ. I've got my new Leon arriving in a few weeks and this review has been really helpful to show my family (who weren't around for the test drive) what they can expect. First class job.
+Rob Denholm thanks!!
When I first saw AJ do a review I wasn't so sure that I'd like him. But I have to say that his confidence has grown hugely in a short period of time! I like how he has his own personal intro line "Are you interested? Come on.......Let's Go!". It's like a signature and adds personality. Well done AJ and keep up the great work! Assuming Thomas is your mentor, you are learning from one of the best :-)
thanks m8 =)
The design of the Seat Leon looks still very sharp and dynamic!! Great technical updates !! Really looking forward to the new CUPRA ST with 300hp and 4wd !!!! :)
But I really appreciate the FR version.
Another great episode of Autogefühl :))
thanks bro !
car addicted "?.
Currently actually owning a ST version 2016 I have to say as a previous audi A3 owner I love my Seat. A lot of thought has gone into the newer models but not too sure about the new grill
Amazing review on a beautiful car! This hatch is so underrated!!! I love it
thanks bro !
I've got the seat Leon FR 1.4 2017 67plate I've had it two weeks now and I'm pleased with everything with the car
Thanks for the review
I think this really helped me with my decision.
Leon SC FR 1.8 TSI with automatic 👌🏻
thanks and enjoy :)
Cracking review, mine is due for delivery any day, cant wait
Great review. I’m ordering the 1.8 tsi auto, 5 door , tomorrow. Can’t wait for delivery. Keep up the good work.
😊 enjoy!
Autogefühl Thank you. I appreciate it.
Just ordered my new facelift fr tsi delivering to me for june cannot wait!
Tonald Drump how was it?, does it keep its price(value)?
Great review !! Even if it lacks the "sportiness" that is expected with such a sporty and powerful car. Wanted to see it behave on twisty roads, not in an industrial zone.
Next year we'll test the Cupra 300 hp and we'll show you more performance
Excellent review. Told me everything I needed to know. Thanks AJ
thanks paul !
I really enjoyed your review and am considering buying a Leon FR now! The title is very off-putting as I was sceptical whether the review would be in English!
Thx enjoy !
Love your reviews AJ! So joyful and relaxing to watch 👍🏼
love to hear that!
I love your review style AJ so layer back and chill ✌🏻️😎😏
way to go !
I have had a Leon for nearly three years. At no stage have I ever found the fuel gauge remotely confusing. The gauge on this face lift Leon is more or less identical to my 2015 Leon. I don't know how different the steering is, I certainly have no complaints on mine though.
Had this the 1.8 tsi in the fr spec for 3 years and loved it. The car never gave me an ounce of trouble. I'll wait until week 16 in 2017 for the Seats version of the virtual cockpit to become available.
thanks for the feedback !
It is confirmed info?
Damn my leon cupra 290 was build that week in the factory and i want now the cupra 300 facelift because i love the new front bumper :/ i wonder if the facelift leon cupra 300 that will be announced February 2017 will have a bumper that can fit my 290 that will arrive next Month
good job!Don't mind the kids...it's good to have different reviewers
Excellent review, I will be ordering mine in the new year and can't wait to drive it. It will be the 1.4 tsi dsg ST for me.
+Philip Jones nice!
The 1.4TSI is the best choice !!
Congratulation
Philip Jones I ordered mine 2 weeks ago. 😍 The 1.4 TSI but only the small one with 125 hp.
The design of the Leon is almost perfect, even after 10 years, well Done Seat!!!
The best review I have seen, Very very good
thanks keep following !
The steering wheel problem is very interesting. I just bought the 2020 fr st version and the steering is excelent.
I had exactly the opposite effect, that the steering is very crisp and does not feel artificial at all.
Maybe Seat listened to your review :D
My 2016 Leon has led door lights! It wasn't carried over from the ateca at all, it's been on the Leon since 2013!! And it's available in 6speed manual and 7speed dsg (not 5speed manual like u said)
Nice detailed review AJ. Though I'm concerned you found the fuel gauge confusing, is it really??!! - the last thing we want is SEAT to stop doing cool gauges because some popular TH-cam reporter says it was confusing!!
great review, good job!
appreciated !
Very well done review. It's nice to watch :)
thanks !
thanks for the review and honesty.
appreciated!
Thank you for allll of these valuable information
appreciated!
hi how do you turn on the led flashing light ihave leon fr 2017 and it doesn have it?
Hi I'm wondering if the Leon comes with the ambient lighting as standard as I can't find any info
14:01 this interior lighting system is the more importat thing in this car.
you said it has no practical use... you're DEAD WRONG!
Let me explain....
You're dating a new girl, you go to a decent restaurant and drink a little wine...
The evening is about to end, you go back to the parking, but before moving you show her this lighting system with the changing colours...
This is the signal. It says: "ok girl, this is the right moment to blow me".
Believe me: it works.
100% guaranteed.
😂😂😂
got the 1.4 TSI manual and i love it.
looks great outside and inside, feels great on the road, it handles smooth even at high speeds and it's nice and quiet as well.
it's a blast to drive and i can only recommend it.
hope we'll see a review in germany too on autobahn and landstraße
and a comment on the head space in the front for people with around 1.85 m
Another thorough review. Thank you AJ.
appreciated!
Good review.drive the 2014 184bhp fr and I love it.plenty of power and economy.is very good.
+Laurence Clarke :)
Nice review!
thx carlos!
What colour would you choose AJ, do you like the new red colour?
Pretty good reviews man, i just suscribed to your channel
great to have you with us! :)
does all this tech come with a standard fr model or are there additional add ons?
Picking up my 1.8 fr tomorrow great review 😊
Cool enjoy 😊
@@autogefuehl thanks
The 3 door Leon has the same sized boot as the 5 door Leon (and the VW Golf in fact).
Great review!!!
thanks and join more of our reviews!
On poor quality roads with 18" and Comfort mode in DCC comfort in on satisfactory level?
What with noise level - you think that is better from model before lifting?
I prefer the side mirrors that come out of the door rather than the window. Gives the car a sportier appearance, IMO.
Thank you, very good review
+felixianto 🎬🎬🎬
18:00 It's a six speed manual, actually.
Very good video !
hi !
about the 1.6 tdi...
what is the mechanical difference of "new" 1.6tdi 115cv and the "old" 1.6tdi 110cv?
or the difference is only a software update of the ECU map?
Thank you !
+1
Thanks to autogefuhl i bought a new car. In my list were cars such as Astra, Focus, Octavia and Leon. Astra was first out....i missed paddles for shifting and also some other minor problems to me. Really hard decision for me came then. Octavia vs Leon with 1.8 TSI and DSG....both had the same price for me, although price list of Škoda is put in higher levels. Škoda has more room, more practical small hideouts in interior and electric opening for trunk. Thats it.....no charisma, no sexepeal and if u want good level of equipment u have to pay extra. So i picked Seat Leon ST 1.8 DSG in beautifull Desire Red and this black wheels. It is expensive but the best visual configuration for this car. Again thanks to autogefuehl i could chose that sporty beautifull red color....you showed it sooner, then it can be seen in Czech republic. Only con i found in Leon (and i really hoped AJ is not right there) is no responce in wheel....Really shame in sporty tuned estate. 1.8 is flawless, silent and very lively over 4000 RPM, DSG great as ever, but i dont know what is happening under my wheels even in sport mode (i have adaptive chassis). Keep going Thomas and your team.
thanks and enjoy m8 !
Very curious which one all round is better
Leon / Ibiza / VW polo?
Epic review good job !
+K T G Games ✌️✌️
Autogefühl 😄
great review dude, a little question, is panoramic sunroof available on this Leon you reviewed ?
thanks! ye it is
Not all info seems correct... for ex. The Full Link existed already on the prev Leon but was just added after 2012 release. Interior lighting already existed in prev ... only red & white were available though (and only for FR trim i believe?)... But indeed, the GPS system still feels very cluncky for a 2017 car :-/.
Good review overal!! :)
I've just ordered the ST FR tsi DSG, 5 month lead time. 2 months in! Can't wait.
I like the 3 door and the estate. The 5 door hatchs I don't like.
Congrats!
@@autogefuehl boheme purple. Looks great. But given I already own an opel gtc in emerald green (also love), I know I'm going to hate it also. Because the deep dark metallic colours you just can't keep clean. But oh boy do they look good when polished and waxed.
OMFG, this car looks so gorgeous! I'd rather buy a Seat than a VW, almost the same, but different. I like the Seat's cockpit and dashboard a lot more, for example. Seats are NOT boring cars for me.
Hey Thomas! Did you or your team go to Barcelona today to review the Cupra 300? Looking forward for a video :)
hey, we ll do that this week :)
Just got the Leon exellence 2lt of diesel very nice car .
Great car,will it launch in India?i am waiting to buy one.
Great review !. Can anyone advise or provide feedback on how the 1.4 TSI 125 hp is ? I'm looking to order with this engine but not found one to test drive. Does it feel sufficiently powerful ? How does it compare to the 1.4 TSI 150 bhp ?? Thanks.
thanks! Depends on your driving profile. Of course you cant expect much power on high speed motorway runs, but for calm driving and city driving its perfectly fine
Is it normal for the check engine light to be on while the ignition is turned on. Looks like a pending engine code to me.
check our Skoda Kodiaq driving part video for the explanation :)
you can changes the steering response in the mode menu.
kind of worried of what i heard in the film about the steering wheel. AJ- didnt you use different modes?
nice machine, vw is doing well with this brand
congrats bro nice video thnx from turkeyy :)) im w8ing 1.4 tsi 150hp
thx!
Why doesn't my Leon 2018 fr+ have heated seats?
Hi there!! Such a nice review, great job! I have a question regarding to the interior loudness when driving in the highway. Would you say that the noise is much better isolated than in the new Seat Ibiza 1.5 TSI?
thanks! The Leon is more silent than the Ibiza yes, but no wonder
Good review
thanks John !
AJ, you said the steering wheel feels too light but it's meant to be light at slow speeds to make it easier to manoeuvre around towns and cities and then it weights up and becomes more direct at higher speed. I saw on the review that you used local roads therefore i'm sure you didn't get to experience the steering qualities at high speed.
yeah indeed always has 2 sides of it
great job
Otherwise very good review, but there is also a 6-speed manual option.
should have done a sporty driving part, other than that great review!
if they haven't eliminated the 5F's creaky and squeaky interior no amount of exterior fluffing will compensate
We want Full HD, Full Screen, Full length and Thomas lets go
So is this a Seat or Volkswagen? Like the SKoda...
Excellent review but.. where is Thomas? :(
here: th-cam.com/video/4ThrWBWDevo/w-d-xo.html
picking up my leon tommorow ;)
enjoy! :)
Rear spoiler???? Where are gou???
Waiting for mine next week :) fr 1.4 150hp
+MJ enjoy!
So for pure driving would you recommend this Seat Leon FR or the (2018) VW Polo GTI ?
Compare it here: th-cam.com/video/qk7wny6QXN0/w-d-xo.html
I love My seat leon 1,2 tsi.
Does any one have some experience with the DSG7 gear on the new Leon?
Is it still problematic as before or has VW been able to get rid of the issues?
Hey, what about blind spot detection? Does it have it?
sadly not
Why is it soooo hard to find a SEAT dealer here in the states?
I even looked in the yellow pages, nothing? Whatzup?
they dont sell in the US yet...
I have driven cupra ST 4wd. Price is good, i just doesn´t understand why dashboard needs to be soft if door panels and places what you are touching daily are hard plastic? Interior is fail, price is right. (Sorry for my bad language)
Thomas dont leave us S2
do you get the Color Display in the instrumentcluster with the 8" navigationssystem only? What do you get with the 6,5" Media System? Color or monochrome?
monochrome afaik.
and in the facelift with the 8" Media System plus? it's quite weird. sometimes the configurator says 8" Media System plus in the Style and 6,5" Media System plus in the xcellence, wich doesnt make much sense to me...
even my local dealer couldnt answer me if the xcellence has 6,5"or 8" media system.
did you check the price list ? The pdf is often more exact
Autogefühl I just asked Seat Germany. They told me with the facelift there are only 2 Display sizes. the 5" optional System for the Reference and serial System for the Style, aswell as the 8" Media System plus. They couldnt give me exact Information on the Display in the instrumentcluster but they believe it to be monochrome in Reference only. with xcellence you get the DOT-Matrix with and without Navigation.
You haven't mentioned dimensions bro
I'm in love
Looks great and drives better but the estate version in FR trim looks even better in my opinion. And those seats display real (basic) leather on seating surface btw.
+Zenith Red yes thats right. Good that they have good alternatives
I can agree with that, i ordered an st, but a cupra!, and im fed up with the wait!, they're behind on building for once!!, its been set back twice, if i get another call from the dealer, informing of another month to wait......his ears will burst into flames!!, can't wait to get it. Great review matey. All the best.
Do you have a picture of the default upholstery of FR version?
+elcurruncho should be in the official prospectus - its nice
Yes! In the .com website there is a picture of each upholstery, and it's a bit red, specially in the panels of the doors :(, I prefer the actual one www.seat.com/content/com/website/en/carworlds/new-leon-5d/design/vehicle-color-interior/cloth-techny-black-sport/_jcr_content.resizeViewPort.noScale.fileReferenceEng.jpg
looks nice!
does it have park assist? and parks automaticlly
PION ED it doesnt.
Which engine would you recommend? 1.4 TSI - 150hp, or 1.8?
both will do fine ..
how is the dsg ?
i heard some cars are not so good like audi or bmw because the transmission is not so good.
the DSG is great to drive, we had that in many many reviews
i just saw this video thx for the answer!
Not enough emphasis on how well you can push the car in corners. Does it handle well at speed? Not much about the sound it makes. Not much about the acceleration.
How can you activate the wave effect of the running lights (at 1:51 min)?
+Philipp Schardt thats normal when u have the led headlamps
Is this a special? Mine only change from full white to orange (indicator) without the waving effects
ahh now I know what u meant. That effect is not real, it is because the camera is faster than the headlight. So it doesnt appear to you in real life
What's the color? Emotion red or desire red?
desire red
this review is somehow funny , forgot to clean the cluster , about the steering wheel he said the coolest " and stuff like that " , and for the other things also we enjoyed the " things like that " 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Very good review! Personally i realy dont like the "facelift", previous was better imo
Thanks!!