Valdo Calocane: Brutal Nottingham Killer Avoids Jail, Given Indefinite Hospital Order
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- A knifeman with paranoid schizophrenia who killed three people and attacked three others in a spate of “atrocities” in Nottingham has been sentenced to an indefinite hospital order.
Judge Mr Justice Turner said Valdo Calocane, 32, would “very probably” be detained in a high security hospital for the rest of his life after “deliberately and mercilessly” stabbing students Barnaby Webber and Grace O’Malley-Kumar, both 19, and school caretaker Ian Coates, 65, in the early hours of June 13 last year.
He told the killer: “You committed a series of atrocities in this city which ended the lives of three people.
“Your sickening crimes both shocked the nation and wrecked the lives of your surviving victims and the families of them all.”
He said the “harrowing” details of the attacks have been “fully recounted and explored” in court over the past days and Calocane sentenced many relatives and friends to “a life of grief and pain”.
The judge told the triple killer: “There was never any doubt that it was you who had committed these appalling crimes.
“It soon became clear however, that the central issue in this case would relate to whether at the time of committing these offences you were suffering from symptoms of severe mental disorder.”
The judge added that the psychiatric evidence did not detract from the “horror” and “disastrous” impact of the offences, but he said, in his view, Calocane’s abnormality of mind had “significantly contributed” to him perpetrating the string of attacks.
Despite being detained in high security Ashworth Hospital since November, Mr Justice Turner said he still “remains dangerous”.
Emma Webber, mother of Nottingham stabbings victim Barnaby Webber, said outside court that “true justice has not been served today”, adding the families of Valdo Calocane’s victims had been “let down” by the CPS and police after the triple killer was handed an indefinite hospital order.
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Should brutal Nottingham killer Valdo Calocane have been sent to jail instead?
@@alanbraham3981We musn't offend the dark people.!!!
Why aren't there any of these people on the balcony of Buckingham Palace ???
@@alanbraham3981:- Nonsense. The independent doctors who reported are known to collude together as most do.
Yes.
go take your meds you have well and truly lost it @@alanbraham3981
No. He has mental health issues which were ignored. This tragedy is so sad 😢!
Disgusting, absolutely shameful of our judiciary. So now the tax payers pay for him.
Under no circumstances should this guy be ever allowed out of prison
He's in a cushy hospital.
@@edda682 he will escape guaranteed
@@Secret_Squirrel_Scottishgamer
No some do gooder will say he's not longer a problem. He should be freed to enrich our lives. Do we need the likes of him here?
@@dave20thmay course not.. but this crazy society loves all this chaos going on at least until the british people put down their phones go outside and actually voice their opinion in ways we are no longer allowed.
@@dave20thmay Just to clarify im referring to protesting that has been disallowed recently because it seems like the foreign protests now take precident because if you try to protest against them you get shut down.
Absolute disgrace. He should have been given life without parole.
Yes in a secure mental hospital
It is more or less the same. He won’t be let out.
Did it even happen
Are you sure?@@jujutrini8412
He was let out before.they didn't deem hm a risk.
@@jujutrini8412
The public need protection from the judge also
He should be deported asap and should not be here given his actions .
Thousands spent on him being in a hospital now for god knows how long, country is run by fairies now
@@JimmyFisherTV Millions and depend on how long he is there as well as the cost of the case. There are schizophrenics and paranoid schizophrenics who are medicated and can live a relatively normalised life. I'm not saying they are perfect and can have episodes.
And those he is bred from living here
Immigrants shouldn’t even be in the uk they need to leave men and women and kids
Millions down the drain looking after him. Many lives taken and ruined. Amazing how we find the money for this but not for our own. Disgusting.
You're an evil white man and they dispise you...that's why they don't cough up money for our own.
Dont fancy being the Hospital staff. The families have a LIFE SENTENCE. Lessons will not be learnt
Yeah costs about a quarter of a million pounds a year too
Imports are brought in Deliberately to destroy all we hold dear to our Lives and Country...The Govt needs to be sued for this...
Dont ever ask again why people wont fight for this country..... dont ever ask such a stupid question again
Absolutely disgusting he is a murderer and it was murder not manslaughter
The poor families! If the government now admit he was not well, that means that he should NOT have been on the streets in the first place! This is a system failure. Absolutely tragic
Yes, the biggest failure in this country is letting these maniacs in here in the first place.
How many more like him on the streets now as we speak
So a seriously ill and potentially dangerous person was not being looked after in the first place?
Whoever invented the policy of care in the community is the one guilty for his crimes.
I think we have come to understand that recent Governments in power have not put its citizens first. The laws need changing to ensure its citizens are kept safe. Undocumented mostly men entering our country illegally, without individual proof of the basic identity proof. Country of origin, age etc. Sunak has lied so many times regarding illegals, they are allowed out in our communities, now they can work with vulnerable people….but the Government needs workers. Human rights of UK citizens should always come first.
That shall never bring these 3 beautiful people back. They have been let down by the system. My thoughts and prayers are with the family’s at this time.
It's a huge problem. I have some experience with this as a Neighbour (supposedly) has mental health issues and on each occasion the police are called in on his behaviour the response is always to defer to him. His 'condition' takes precedence and the Police don't want to take it on. Understandable in a way as the Mental health card has become the equivalent of a 10 tonne block of Kryptonite to authorities - any whiff of 'mental health' terrifies them, and they simply do not want to get involved. At all.
I have some small sympathy for the Police with the Nottingham incident as this is such an extreme individual, extremely violent, but protected by the law and the Mental Health card. In the end no one in authority wanted to take his problem on as he was so unpredictable, and the facilities were not there - it was a form of passing the buck and turning the cheek.
But the reality is that this example is the merest tip of the Iceberg. And up and down the country Authoritiies do not want to take on the problem and reality of these sort of people, some genuinely ill, and some playing on it to the hilt....
Exactly. If the proper measures were in place this might not have happened
@@professorcalvert8126blah blah hindsight 20 20. Stop giving him excuses. He literally murdered 3 innocent people. Try and convince the victims families and the broader community that he deserves mercy! 🤦♂️
An absolute disgrace, our justice service needs overhauling, he should be in prison for life with no parole.
Mental health authorities and police hold a great deal of responsibility for this tragedy. The Tories are the ones who brought in the stupid “care in the community” policy.
Labour voters just can't help themselves, it's become a mental illness
Money saving
I got an uncle with schizophrenia, he relapsed during lockdown, it took months to get him sectioned, ruined my grandmas last years, it got to a point where he locked himself in a hotel room, complete mess with him crawling in filth (also has had ms) when the mental authorities finally arrived, they asked him what his name was and what day it was and said he was no danger so couldn’t be took to hospital, just before second lockdown, the radbourne mental health unit in Derby purposely discharged a lot of people with these conditions just to make life easier for them
@@lukeatbrandynightful I don’t even have the words to say how I feel about what happened to you and your family. This country is a mess.
@@jujutrini8412 thanks, was a really dark time. Others have also been through a lot from incompetence at the radbourne unit, a mother even strangled her baby in there in 2020 and my friends sister killed herself in there last year when she was meant to be on a 15 minute suicide watch
Shouldn't of been in England in the first place, again its the government who is at fault
I'm sorry this comment just makes 0 sense whatsoever. He came to the UK legally as a minor with his family from Portugal. His family are innocent. Are you saying they should stop immigration period, or deported him at the first sign of trouble?
@@tn1340 yep as that's what would happen to me if I was in another country
@@chrisoland not if you moved there legally and got citizenship
Just proves how the criminal system doesn't work in this country,how is this justice for the victims,the judge should be ashamed of himself
The problem is that the country is run by people who do not have our best interests at heart. Once you understand that, everything they do makes sense.
The man was ill. He has committed an offence. He is now detained for the rest of his life probably in a "hospital" with guards.
@@jamiemcgow2041the man is a murderer. He committed murder!! Tell the families of the innocent victims how you’re trying downplay his actions.
Mistake after mistake. sectioned 4 times before he committed these awful crimes, How was he ever allowed back in the community, Outrageous decision by the mental health teams involved in this whole debacle.
I hope the staff at the hospital stay safe! Should be in a high security prison segregation unit!
Ashworth deals with the most dangerous prisoners in the UK, along with Rampton and Broadmoor. Frequently the inmates at those secure mental hospitals are too dangerous for prison, many previously attacked staff and other inmates at prisons and had to be transferred there, where their mental illness, personality disorders, psychopathic rage is kept under control as best as possible, which makes handling them safer to handle for staff and indeed other inmates. They are the equivalent of the US Supermax prisons but with more mental health support. See aerial view of HMP Kennet & Ashworth Psychiatric Hospital, Parkbourne, Maghull, Liverpool, UK
Interesting to know. Thank you!
@@Diamonddavejand Carstairs in Scotland
he'll be out within 10 years given social housing free benefits and a big two fingers up to all of the British hard-working honest people
No he won’t.
Very well said .this country should have a tougher system like America .if this was America he would have got the death penalty
@@enidseddon5052no they wouldn’t. In America if they’re mentally unwell they don’t even stand trial
@@enidseddon5052brilliant, no one else would suffer his barbaric attacks
no he wouldn't due to the whole paranoid schizophrenia @@enidseddon5052
I am astonished he has managed to get into a hospital when he has done the worst crime possible.
I hope no one takes the law into their own hands in the hospital.
@@martinbrandom2654I sense sarcasm in your comment
Shouldn’t be here in the first place
How did this killer ever get British citizenship in the first place ? massive learnings to prevent this happening and protect the public.
What’s he doing in this country he’s a west African national?
Knife crime ..is disproportionate in certain communities. Surprise surprise..
If skin colours were reversed the black community would be rioting in the streets. We’ve become soft
@Eric-qm5xw that's not answering the question
@@charlottebruce979 What’s to answer ..immigration is out of control, it’s all by design.
He should be in high security prison and throw away the key he should never walk are streets again. How many more people from other countries been let in to are country.
Wasn't crazy enough to select any fellow black victims in Nottingham where there are loads....strange that?
He probably had a bunch of professionals BEGGING to have him sectioned and governments ignored it. They need to listen to the people trying to get them sectioned BEFORE a crime is committed.
Reminds me of a case a few years ago, a young man and his mum begged the authorities to section him as he wanted to kill people, he ultimately went out and killed a heavily pregnant mum on her way to a maternity appointment. Just one story of so many.
Absolutely right.I have worked in this field and know how frustrating it is.
He’ll end up being kept indefinitely in a secure Mental Hospital, such as Broadmoor, which is where Ronnie Kray was sent and where he died. Paranoid Schizophrenia is treatable, but not likely to be cured and plainly this man cannot be allowed out in the community, as he will always pose a risk.
Was this not a hate crime then 🤔
Why would it be?
@@civildiscourse7626 Because it wasn’t a spontaneous act he roamed the streets for some time to find his victims
And surprise surprise they all just happened to be white .
Premeaditated.
Never is when it's the other way round. Typical
British justice does it again.
It’s absolutely disgraceful they are letting any criminal into our country.
Maybe, Sunak can put such people in penthouse apartments in Sadiq's
non-white London?
Always in favour of the perpetrator not the victim shocking😮
All completely preventable by visible police deterrents. Sitting in a police car is not a visible deterrent. We need our police back on the beat walking the streets. We don’t need extra police, we need the ones we have walking the beat and off their phones.
Have you been following this at all? Deterants? For an insane person? What are you even talkimg about?
If you’ve ever been close to anybody who has a serious mental illness (schizophrenia, bi polar disorder etc) you understand how difficult it is to get them in hospital and fully sectioned. You literally have to beg the hospital staff to take them in. ‘Care in the community’ is thrust upon you and you are left totally helpless. The nurses and often the psychiatrist have no clue what they’re doing, they learned about serious illness from text books not real life experience. So it does not surprise me that this man, even exhibiting violent behaviour, was not fully sectioned to protect the public. The mental health system in this country is an absolute abomination. Even if they wanted to section him, they wouldn’t have had enough beds and he would have been roaming the community until they had space.
He has been sectioned.I trained as a doctor, we get plenty of 'hands-on' experience at med school/clinical. The problem has arisen because there isn't any real 'care in the community'.
@@jsmith3980 No you don’t. I’ve spoken to too many psychiatrists over decades who try to tell me and others who have decades of personal experience with somebody’s illness that they ‘don’t need sectioning’ when we know exactly what stage the patient is at and what care they need. Our experience is everyday, 7 days a week, since being little kids, too many times in mental health wards… for decades. I’m sorry but your measly stint in a couple of hospitals whilst you read about the rest from text books/ watch some videos in school is completely insufficient. Your interpretation of ‘plenty’ is coming from having 0 experience prior. You’re right, there is no care in the community, so why would these ‘expertly trained’ doctors be recommending it to people who are clearly a danger to themselves and others? ie. People who need to be hospitalised, closely monitored and cared for properly. After 25 years of dealing with that system I can confidently say most in the profession are just making it up as they go along. They are woefully unprepared to provide effective diagnosis and care.
An interesting reply, thanks.I trained in Psychiatry in the late 80s when so-called care in the community was starting to be rolled out. My experience doesn't just come from med school but from close friends who have been sectioned. I agree with most of what you state, @@CB-dl1vg
Mass. Deportations.
Murder with intent carries a life sentence. What the hell! this is not the first time this has happened. This country never fails to amaze me.
I've never heard of a hospital order?
Condolences to all the families involved ❤❤❤
35 years for a mugging, threatening the couple with a knife. Yeah, I agree 👍
This guy murdered 3 people, and people's lives have been ruined. The guy gets a hospital order wtf is going on
If you know about schizophrenia then you know why it’s a hospital order. It’s the most serious psychosis a person can have
@Joey-te1uy OK, how long will he serve 🤔 that's the publics question?
@@Joey-te1uy All that has to do with murders commited by schizophrenics is famously known to lawyers and legal specialists as prone to abuse and manipulation. Especially when it comes to clients that tick all required boxes. Medical criteria are easily bent as needed. Therefore don't be in a hurry to sympathize with this cute poor baby who took life of three people and made their loved ones unhappy for life.
Going into secure hospital indefinitely hopefully will be an actual life sentence
Stop emporting these people
So basically he’s got away with it!
Yup
Yes. What an absolute travesty of justice!
Avoids jail... What a joke the justice system is..
We need to see that the problem is and always has been, the people making the decisions that put us all in danger never have themselves or their loved ones exposed to those same dangers. That needs to change!
Shame on justice Turner!!!
+++ Trust your own eyes and ears - it's not 'political correctness' OR police resources that's the issue. The problem is that the country is run by people who do not have our best interests at heart. Once you understand that, everything they do makes sense.
spot on
If you are caught in the street with a knife you should go straight to prison for 20 years if u use a knife to hurt someone then if should be life in prison with no chance of parole
I agree. The current 2 years is way too lenient.
Having experienced our mental health service first hand, I can guarantee he will be allowed out under "supervision" within 12 months. We won't be informed when it happens, but do not be surprised if we hear of another victim at some stage.
"Not fit for purpose" doesn't even get close to that part of the NHS's incompetence.
I agree, he told the doctors that he was mentally ill and they believed him so when he is ready he will tell them he is no longer mentally ill and they will believe him and let him out.
as long as the government and it's institution is concerned about green matters, that is all they care about. These young adults had the life taken. This is not justice.
Thatcher closed all the secure mental hospital's in the early 80s and replaced it with care in the community.
Not a good move. More secure hospitals for mental health patients and drug adicts.
The fault is on the people who let him in here, they should do a better job of checking these people. It shouldn’t be the responsibility of everyone else to pick up the pieces.
He should have been monitored before hand. He is dangerous, why was he allowed to roam around by himself?
This creature isn’t stupid, he’ll be out of Ashworth hospital within five years, and then he’ll do it all over again. Ffs.
Hate crime.
Common excuse - MENTALLY UNSTABLE. ?? 😡
Julia stop interrupting !!
I doubt the sentence would have been so lenient had the perpetrator been white
He claims he didn't murder. it was his brain, if he is imprisoned for life so will his brain
I got an uncle with schizophrenia, he relapsed during lockdown, it took months to get him sectioned, ruined my grandmas last years, it got to a point where he locked himself in a hotel room, complete mess with him crawling in filth (also has had ms) when the mental authorities finally arrived, they asked him what his name was and what day it was and said he was no danger so couldn’t be took to hospital, just before second lockdown, the radbourne mental health unit in Derby purposely discharged a lot of people with these conditions just to make life easier for them
Sent to a secure mental institution, wonder if any of the inmates sort him out 🤔🤔
Mark my words, if that was my sister that got killed, this man would not live to see another year. He will suffer in hell for eternity.
Just about sums it up 😅
A Conservative Councillor gets robbed at knife point and the culprits get sentenced 35 years betwean them !
3 random people get murdered by a man with knife and he gets sentenced to a hospital and could be out in 3 years ...
This is a very irresponsible post. He hasn't avoided jail. He has been dealt with appropriately given his mental illness. He coukd never be convicted of murder and indeed pleaded guilty to manslaughter. He has received an indefinite treatment order in a special hospital and is unlikely to be released.
This murderer entered our country in 2008, when the Home Secretary was Jacqui Smith.
Has anyone had enough diversity yet?.
Mentally ill. Nothing to do with "diversity".
It's a tragedy. Take your childish points scoring elsewhere.
Ah the mental health defence.
Again.
Aa usual.
Oh, so this is one of the free holidaymakers? okay.
And that's funny how lately the lawyers bring up mental health for the clients to get away with crime,this needs to stop,they use it as a excuse,not because it's true
Well said I was thinking the same thing .if this was America he would of got the death penalty this country is a disgrace justice system is an absolute joke
He was sectioned 4 times BEFORE this happened…so clearly it’s not made up as an excuse
I wonder if the police sorted this out so quickly because he was a counciller.
Everything I hear that is going on in the UK is awful, the country is done for by the whole system.
The fact is he has murdered, weather he is mental or not he deserves a prison sentence probably there's over crowding in jails so that is why he is sent to hospital for the crimminaly insane he should Never be let out!!
British justice is way too lenient and must change pronto.
He had mental health issues which were ignored. This tragedy is so sad!
Well It is for the victims
Yeah Very sad fur the victims families now, imagine how they feel , this POS should be locked away for life to protect the public.
A dark day for British justice, once the envy of the world.
Criminals at every level need have no fear, their victims no faith.
OMG, what's happening in the UK. I'm glad I left in 92.
Back then, it was calm. Probably bc everyone was raving to acid house music and loving everyone.
I hope my f reg azure blue XR3i cabriolet is still parked at Gatwick
It's been stolen. 🤣🤣
@@johnpatrick1702 yes you're probably right lol
Stay safe wherever you are my friend.@@amillionviews888
Which country is your home now.
@@lynnedavies5884 I'm living in the Philippines but I really miss my friends and family in the UK.
Doesn't matter what he is sentenced he will never get out either way too much hype over the number of years that should be handed out... 100% he will never get out
The country is finished
the black community enriching your lives every day in sunny england!
Mental health the man was driving a van around he can’t be that dumb
You think no one who drives has psychological conditions?
mentally ill people are seldom stupid or
'dumb' as incorrectly used....
Should not of been on streets in first place
Privilege.😡😡We have a politicised justice system full of flakes just like our schools and universities.
I feel for the families for the victims. somewhere in the system needs to be held accountable , because its clear these families have not got the justice they deserve. I only hope that they do one day and prevent further attacks in the future .All the best to these families.
with judgement s like this you wonder why nobody will defend this country its disgusting judges should face prosecution
So another 3 inocent people have lost their lives, families have been left with no sense of justice, so this will be another who will get 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, access to this that and the other, our laws need instantly looking at, if there is NO SHADOW OF A DOUBT he is guilty, sorry this is a prime example for the death penalty
We have plenty of injectables
This guy is a joker. The Tories cut the number of police officers and now he’s boasting the Tories are bringing in more police officers! 😂😂😂😂
Even so, it will be a hundred times worse under Labour, the floodgates will be open for all and taxes will rise to pay for our unwanted guests.
The police are too busy arresting arresting people because they mis gendered someone..
Police are too busy arresting people because they mis gendered someone.
So basically a lifetime in the looney bin
That’s a fcuking disgrace He could be out in a few years for three deaths
He might hurt someone in prison.
MH is real and the government needs to do more. These poor families have to deal with this pain forever because of failures by MH services
Julia and I have the same views and opinions. It’s great to see someone with logic and common sense.
don't kid yourselves he will have less freedom in a secure hospital
An open air asylum,just like some states in the US
Just shows our legal system needs sorting out!!!!
British homes for British workers...overbreeders will STILL be top of the list....No change there then....
The only good thing is that, unlike a "life" sentence, a hospital order means he could in fact be detained until he dies. Sad that it comes to this...
Quite a few of these cases seem to be labelled Mental Health issues. Why are these people allowed into the country in the first place. The authorities and the government are all culpable for yet again more totally innocent peoples lives being shattered by this type of individual let loose on our streets.
Race and mental health card pampered to again…
I recall that when this happened, at least one of the affected families' mantra was "don't look back in anger" ... where's that mantra now? I'm not hearing it.
A cuddle instead of prison , is it April 1st.
No. Read closer.... This allows for him to be incarcerated for his entire life. A regular prison would make it more likely for him to be released early.
Как жалко детей!Соболезную родителям!💔💔💔🙏🙏🙏
Care in the community dont exist never has❤
One word, reform