Fyi, Larethian's Wrath is also a finesse weapon, very useful for Dex builds. Larethian's Wrath and Phalar Aluve are the only finesse longswords in BG3. Using them both in dual weapon builds.
If you are a high dex class, dipping into monk will make any weapon capable of being wielded in one hand go off dexterity. Only takes one level kind of like how some builds dip into wizard to get the ability to learn spells from scrolls.
Kind of drives me nuts that DnD depicts longswords incorrectly. Longsword is more like a twohanded rapier than a soldiers sword. Meant for stabbing not slashing.
I hate the assumption that Rapiers are only for stabbing even though it's a type of blade that was purposefully made to be the most versatile and well rounded possible ...... why do you think they had *sharp edges* if they weren't made to cut ? The entire point of rapiers is that they are extremely light and maneurable swords that you can cut and slash with at a moment's notice and are therefore the best weapon you can bring to a duel due to that flexibility and ease of use
It’s a great sword you can use the entire game! Good point on it moving around people with the shriek hahaha can help with lock picking / pickpocketing if you don’t have minor illusion
There's a little detail about the bonesaw you may have overlooked which is that the bonus necro dmg and weapon actions only work if the wielder is a house of healing nurse so if you're playing unmodded it is functionally identical to a vanilla longsword Also missed opportunity for the intro to be "longswords. Not quite GREATswords but they're pretty GOODswords!"
AHHH that’s an amazing intro I totally should have said that 😂😂 And good point I completely didn’t notice that, It’s not a weapon I use really so I missed that. Bumping it down to C tier
@@JasonDunna i do think it's really weird how the nurses' special +1 weapons can be looted cuz they straight up look like bugged/unobtainable weapons with incorrect animations and even the description has "1d6" written in plain white text which is supposed to be the bonus necro dmg that only the nurses get to use. Feels like something the devs overlooked
@@hunterx608 Yeah I just went and tested it out and it legit does act like a bugged weapon. When two handing it you only hold it in one hand like a shortsword, and it doesn't get weapon actions. RP tier now hahaha
Did you forget to mention that both Phala Aluve and Larethian's Wrath are finesse weapons, which do damage based on dexterity if that is higher than the character's strength, whereas all the other longswords use only strength?
Fun fact- the cruel sting can do extra psychic damage so long as you unequip it and put it back in your traveling chest whenever you take a long rest. Also you can get the poison damage to ensnared enemies from evard’s black tentacles as well if they don’t meet its spell save DC.
As we have established in a previous video, slashing damage is shit so to me its this: S: phalar aluve F: everything else Im looking forward to the short sword tier list.
@@cfa44acepilot hahahaha Phalar Aluve is the only weapon I consistently use. Sometimes Larethian’s Wrath but I’m more of a great sword or short sword fella
@@JasonDunna Using Nyrulna on an eldritch knight seems wasteful, as they can make any weapon they throw return to them whereas Nyrulna will return to anyone who throws it. I'd think the only worse choice than Eldrich Knight would be Pact of the Blade Warlock, as pact weapons cannot be thrown. Champion or Battlemaster fighter could be ok. If you are using a thrown weapon that returns without needing to be an eldritch knight, then the ability to throw the weapon with a bonus action as a Berserker in Frenzy seems more valuable than any Eldrich Knight abilities. The Jason Momoa version of Aquaman definitely has more of a Barbarian look too. I'd see an Aquaman build as more of a Barbarian/Storm Sorcerer/Tempest Cleric. I was thinking to go to level 6 in Storm Sorcerer, as I thought the Heart of the Storm would make Nyrulna deal extra thunder damage, but now I read it only says extra damage from lightning or thunder SPELLS so I doubt it counts. Still, Heart of the Storm: Resistance could make you less likely to hurt yourself when you throw Nyrulna as a target that is too close.
Now that I think about it, I rarely use longswords! Always opted for greatswords or short swords, often times daggers, but never...longswords. Huh, weird. I think I used Phalar Aluve but nothing else?
There’s not many great long swords, it’s being propped up by Phalar Aluve hard. Great swords and short swords just have a lot more benefits! Being able to use long swords 2 handed or with a shield is nice but yeah longswords in general are probably like C tier because there’s not many awesome choices like other categories of weapons
Longswords do 1D10 if not wielded either dual or with a shield. Blade of Oppressed Souls is an easily missed weapon as its kind of off in the corner of a room. Also, there is a pair of gloves and circlet right next to it that pairs well with the sword.
How the hell can someone put so much effort into making tier lists, and giving nice and clear feedback, and then NOT PUT THE ITEM DESCRIPTION OR SCREENSHOT ON THE SCREEN. I dont get it. I truly dont. Being able to read while you talk would help immensely. Otherwise I appreciate the amount of effort into these tier lists. Thank you,
Chill, you’re sounding like the people who spam my DMs with hate over these videos. It’s not as easy as you think to do that, I’m trying to find a way to make it work
It's on purpose, basically just another means of increasing people's watch time. People will just skip to the weapons they want to hear about and then stop watching if you can look through the timeline.
@@JasonDunna I am providing you with honest feedback to the content you are uploading. Not being able to see the item you are talking about on stream is simply disruptive and leaves a bad taste on an elsewise greatly appreciated piece of effort.
@@AirLancer You make a great point as well since sometimes putting an extra hour or two into a video leads to the watch time being garbage and then the video dies. Extra effort for less views kinda stinks sometimes but a lot of people have poor attention spans nowadays!
@@JasonDunna If you don't want to waste a Feat and don't mind using Norbytes Script Extender Console to cheat, you could also just enter these lines in the console: AddPassive(GetHostCharacter(), "DualWielder_PassiveBonuses") AddPassive(GetHostCharacter(), "DualWielder_BonusAC") if you don't want to waste a Fighting Style to let you apply your ability score modifier to off hand attacks, you could also enter this: AddPassive(GetHostCharacter(), "MAG_TwoWeaponFighting") I discovered those just a couple days ago. I was trying to modify the Gloves of Balanced Hands to grant the Dual Wielder bonuses (it just seemed like it should thematically) and then on a whim decided to see if the same strings could be used to add the abilities in the console. I was pleasantly surprised that it worked.
Weapons or armor that have a feature locked behind a race can be finagled with Disguise Self. However, the game does not apply these bonuses without doing the disguise first than equipping the items. Something that I hope either the devs or modders can address. It's quite tedious.
It works on attacks and some spells but it’s not super consistent with applying. Like Open hand monk can apply reverberation twice with the added radiant damage to their punches, but if a target succeeds a save against a spell and still takes damage they don’t get the reverb
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Here are the best Great Swords in Baldur's Gate 3:
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Fyi, Larethian's Wrath is also a finesse weapon, very useful for Dex builds. Larethian's Wrath and Phalar Aluve are the only finesse longswords in BG3. Using them both in dual weapon builds.
That’s true! Can go really well on a dex based fighter / rogue! Triggering sneak attack with Phalar Aluve is so satisfying
If you are a high dex class, dipping into monk will make any weapon capable of being wielded in one hand go off dexterity. Only takes one level kind of like how some builds dip into wizard to get the ability to learn spells from scrolls.
Larenthiens Wrath on pure assassin GWM, Savage Striker and Sentinel. Toasty!
@@diegodarkmoon I like the sounds of that combo!
Kind of drives me nuts that DnD depicts longswords incorrectly. Longsword is more like a twohanded rapier than a soldiers sword. Meant for stabbing not slashing.
If they were piercing damage they would go so hard!! You make a great point
They do both. They're cut and thrust swords.
@@AirLancer True to a point there is a range of variance in blade construction. some long swords don't even have sharpened edges.
@@michaeljajan2571 We need a Zweihander in the game
I hate the assumption that Rapiers are only for stabbing even though it's a type of blade that was purposefully made to be the most versatile and well rounded possible ...... why do you think they had *sharp edges* if they weren't made to cut ?
The entire point of rapiers is that they are extremely light and maneurable swords that you can cut and slash with at a moment's notice and are therefore the best weapon you can bring to a duel due to that flexibility and ease of use
The Phalar Aluve is great for practical reasons, but it's also fun to use. And sometimes using the shriek to get NPCs to leave an area can be useful.
It’s a great sword you can use the entire game! Good point on it moving around people with the shriek hahaha can help with lock picking / pickpocketing if you don’t have minor illusion
@@JasonDunna Correction: it is a long sword you can use the entire game, which is better than a great sword as you can use a shield with it.
Does Phalar Aluve's Shriek work to make the Judge in the Wyrmway's Chamber of Justice run away so that you can see what painting to choose?
@@magister343 Never tried it there.
@@magister343I think he meant great as in good, not the type of sword
There's a little detail about the bonesaw you may have overlooked which is that the bonus necro dmg and weapon actions only work if the wielder is a house of healing nurse so if you're playing unmodded it is functionally identical to a vanilla longsword
Also missed opportunity for the intro to be "longswords. Not quite GREATswords but they're pretty GOODswords!"
AHHH that’s an amazing intro I totally should have said that 😂😂
And good point I completely didn’t notice that, It’s not a weapon I use really so I missed that. Bumping it down to C tier
@@JasonDunna i do think it's really weird how the nurses' special +1 weapons can be looted cuz they straight up look like bugged/unobtainable weapons with incorrect animations and even the description has "1d6" written in plain white text which is supposed to be the bonus necro dmg that only the nurses get to use. Feels like something the devs overlooked
@@hunterx608 Yeah I just went and tested it out and it legit does act like a bugged weapon. When two handing it you only hold it in one hand like a shortsword, and it doesn't get weapon actions. RP tier now hahaha
Did you forget to mention that both Phala Aluve and Larethian's Wrath are finesse weapons, which do damage based on dexterity if that is higher than the character's strength, whereas all the other longswords use only strength?
I mentioned it at one point! They’re great for sneak attacks too
Fun fact- the cruel sting can do extra psychic damage so long as you unequip it and put it back in your traveling chest whenever you take a long rest. Also you can get the poison damage to ensnared enemies from evard’s black tentacles as well if they don’t meet its spell save DC.
Also you can use web as another way to ensnare enemies
@@andersondavis1228 ooooo that is interesting thanks for sharing that!!
@@JasonDunna np.The psychic damage comes from the drider’s boss fight mechanic so it may get patched out in September but we’ll see ig.
I thought i was losing my mind or something, as i kept seeing the extra 1d6 psychic on and off and was wondering if i saw it all lol
I almost expected the intro to be "not quite great swords, not quite bad swords"
Hahaha I know I missed out on a terrific pun
The Phalar Aluve is also a finesse weapon.
Facts! I’ve done some build guides using it for sneak attacks! It’s seriously so good
As we have established in a previous video, slashing damage is shit so to me its this:
S: phalar aluve
F: everything else
Im looking forward to the short sword tier list.
@@cfa44acepilot hahahaha Phalar Aluve is the only weapon I consistently use. Sometimes Larethian’s Wrath but I’m more of a great sword or short sword fella
Great day when I finish a video and there’s two others for me to watch 😂
Hahahaha I try to keep it consistent with the daily uploads
As soon as you put katana in B instead of the role play category which that’s all the katana is good for by act 3
While you’re right I had to show it some love for being a unique weapon skin
@@JasonDunna fair enough tbh I havent done much of act 3 keep replaying the beginning 🤣 was visibly disappointed with the djinns katana
Which is better for aquaman build 6 eldritch knight/6 tempest cleric or 2tempest /10 four elements monk
Ooo eldritch knight with the Nyrulna goes well, could even do 11 fighter / 1 war cleric or tempest
@@JasonDunna other option storm sorcery least 1 level dip 🤭flying Battlefield ja throw nyrulna 🤭
@@JasonDunna Using Nyrulna on an eldritch knight seems wasteful, as they can make any weapon they throw return to them whereas Nyrulna will return to anyone who throws it. I'd think the only worse choice than Eldrich Knight would be Pact of the Blade Warlock, as pact weapons cannot be thrown. Champion or Battlemaster fighter could be ok.
If you are using a thrown weapon that returns without needing to be an eldritch knight, then the ability to throw the weapon with a bonus action as a Berserker in Frenzy seems more valuable than any Eldrich Knight abilities.
The Jason Momoa version of Aquaman definitely has more of a Barbarian look too.
I'd see an Aquaman build as more of a Barbarian/Storm Sorcerer/Tempest Cleric.
I was thinking to go to level 6 in Storm Sorcerer, as I thought the Heart of the Storm would make Nyrulna deal extra thunder damage, but now I read it only says extra damage from lightning or thunder SPELLS so I doubt it counts. Still, Heart of the Storm: Resistance could make you less likely to hurt yourself when you throw Nyrulna as a target that is too close.
Now that I think about it, I rarely use longswords! Always opted for greatswords or short swords, often times daggers, but never...longswords. Huh, weird. I think I used Phalar Aluve but nothing else?
There’s not many great long swords, it’s being propped up by Phalar Aluve hard. Great swords and short swords just have a lot more benefits!
Being able to use long swords 2 handed or with a shield is nice but yeah longswords in general are probably like C tier because there’s not many awesome choices like other categories of weapons
@@JasonDunna I even prefer maces to them as well. In general I use every other type of weapon
Finally!!!
Enjoy my friend!
does the shriek break stealth?
It does not! Phalar Aluve is so good. You can have a sword and shield rogue and it will have crazy good damage output
Longswords do 1D10 if not wielded either dual or with a shield. Blade of Oppressed Souls is an easily missed weapon as its kind of off in the corner of a room. Also, there is a pair of gloves and circlet right next to it that pairs well with the sword.
How the hell can someone put so much effort into making tier lists, and giving nice and clear feedback, and then NOT PUT THE ITEM DESCRIPTION OR SCREENSHOT ON THE SCREEN. I dont get it. I truly dont. Being able to read while you talk would help immensely.
Otherwise I appreciate the amount of effort into these tier lists. Thank you,
Chill, you’re sounding like the people who spam my DMs with hate over these videos. It’s not as easy as you think to do that, I’m trying to find a way to make it work
It's on purpose, basically just another means of increasing people's watch time. People will just skip to the weapons they want to hear about and then stop watching if you can look through the timeline.
@@JasonDunna I am providing you with honest feedback to the content you are uploading. Not being able to see the item you are talking about on stream is simply disruptive and leaves a bad taste on an elsewise greatly appreciated piece of effort.
@@AirLancer You make a great point as well since sometimes putting an extra hour or two into a video leads to the watch time being garbage and then the video dies. Extra effort for less views kinda stinks sometimes but a lot of people have poor attention spans nowadays!
Its such a shame with so many cool items there's no end game new game plus
The cheaters ring lets you do a pseudo NG+!
Can these long swords be dual wielded?
You need the Dual Wielder feat but you can dual wield them yea! I dual wield Larenthian’s wrath and Phalar Aluve on Astarion
@@JasonDunna If you don't want to waste a Feat and don't mind using Norbytes Script Extender Console to cheat, you could also just enter these lines in the console:
AddPassive(GetHostCharacter(), "DualWielder_PassiveBonuses")
AddPassive(GetHostCharacter(), "DualWielder_BonusAC")
if you don't want to waste a Fighting Style to let you apply your ability score modifier to off hand attacks, you could also enter this:
AddPassive(GetHostCharacter(), "MAG_TwoWeaponFighting")
I discovered those just a couple days ago. I was trying to modify the Gloves of Balanced Hands to grant the Dual Wielder bonuses (it just seemed like it should thematically) and then on a whim decided to see if the same strings could be used to add the abilities in the console. I was pleasantly surprised that it worked.
Weapons or armor that have a feature locked behind a race can be finagled with Disguise Self. However, the game does not apply these bonuses without doing the disguise first than equipping the items. Something that I hope either the devs or modders can address. It's quite tedious.
Gloves of Belligerent Skies only applies reverb if it's done with a spell or cantrip. If I recall correctly.
It works on attacks and some spells but it’s not super consistent with applying. Like Open hand monk can apply reverberation twice with the added radiant damage to their punches, but if a target succeeds a save against a spell and still takes damage they don’t get the reverb
@@JasonDunna Maybe the open-handed monk actions are considered spells because they use Ki points?
Ki points are considered actions instead of spells, the four elements can cast while silenced
My ranger runs the Joltshooter with the reverb gloves and boots. It works to apply reverb on the enemy to knock them on their arse.