Tupac explained in the Thug Immortal interview that he was consolidating power, not just hyping up record sales. He was killed before he could convert that power into action, but the program he was describing and the coalitions he was building were inspiring. His connections in the movement, the fashion, music and movie industries would have made him very formidable.
His power was joining the bloods after success, getting himself killed, Biggie killed, and destroying hip hop. He sounded good but he glorified gang culture over hip hop culture. It’s been garbage every since.
@@TheNyion912 You mean "fraud" like when Pac, e.g., has shot those Two PIGz, even to Honorably Defend a Black Man from White Terrorism ? Htpti [i.e., (May) Peace & Blessings be unto You]
That’s why Jay needed to get away from Dame. Everybody thought Jay was an artist and not the business man. Soon as they spit, we realized Jay was really smart about his business on his own.
Hoffa said it right yo they want me dead an they all fuck with the east in some kind of way taken all targets out pacs mentality lol an who dissing the whole music industry these dayz young boy who young boy friends with other then rondo pac rolled with bloods he wasn't one but hanged with them heavy but his best musical partner was a crip in snoop most of his hits were made by a crip name daz
It’s always Tupacs fault. *But Wolf killed Big Jake from Deathrow, at point blank range. *Puffy & Bad Boy shytted on Pac in Vibe Magazine after he got shot up at Quad. When they thought he was by himself, with no backup. *Biggie jumped on the radio in NYC and instigated The Dogg Pound video set being shot up. What this is about, and always has been about is. The perception that Deathrow was the more aggressive & stronger of the 2 groups beefing. And ppl from NYC hate that LA nggaz took it to them. This is what most fans perceive outside the New YorK area. Just own it & be real!!
I think from Tupac he was hurt by the fact he and Biggie were friends and he felt Biggie had knowledge of the shooting and didn't give him an heads up. That's the part Tupac kept mentioning.
That was foolish thinking on his part. Tupac knew who sent that shooting at him and he knew it wasn’t Big yet he picked the easiest target he could find. Sucker move.
Took on Bad Boy and Jay-z. Bootcamp Click, Grey Nice, Naughty by Nature , Eric B., Queen Latifah, Moni Love, all East Coast, were boys with Pac. Ask Nepolian from Outlawz who held Pac down in jail, the Puerto Ricans becauee Fat Joe sent a kite to the jails telling them to look out for Tupac. Eric B the one that told Tupac to squash it with Nas. Wu-tang had no beef with Tupac even had Method Man and Redman on All Eyez on Me
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 but it's kind of funny how he whooped they ass and they came back with guns like b****** like most of you 🦀 are can't fight but he quick the shoot somebody Tupac all day everyday skip crab n*****😂😂😂😂
Pac was young. Why do niggaz overlook that fact. Young niggaz make mistakes, but stop saying Pac took it too far. Pac did what he felt was right. I hate ppl who hate Tupac.
It's something else when the only time big gets brought up in discussion is about the beef between him and Pac. When Pac gets brought up in discussion not only the beef was apart of his legacy with big but Pac also gets talked about without the beef so pac has more of a lengthy biography of countless story events of his life. Big is big in NY and somewhat semi international but Pac is big all over the world even in the most remote places Pac is known.
Let Tupac Rest, my God. We should focus and teach the young about his work ethic, intelligence which was on another level. Learn from his mistakes in order to grow.
This episode touches on something important. An artist can be big in their respective coast but not necessarily in the other coast. Nipsey is a good example. I'm from Cali but I've spent some time on the east coast - dudes really weren't connecting with Nipsey like that. This was when he was still alive.
He wasn’t big in the south either. He’s garnered a lot respect in his passing though now that cats have went back and peeped his words and interviews. It’s his words and actions more than his music to me.
Nooooo big getting a video shoot shot up!!! That’s going to far I love bigg but I feel like he poisoned the game with the money cars and clothes bulshit now that’s all you hear and all you is chains
Shout out discretion tv for bringing it to the internet 21 gun salute that y pac said see the competition flashing my jewelry dem dudes had hush up jewelry from quad studio on the low pass ing pac jewelry around
Uncle Ralph has a book in him. He needs to write a book. He's witness so much in the industry. Would love to hear more stories from him. The interview wasn't long enough. Props though. 👋🏼🙏🏼📚
Tupac was right , how could he of took it to far when biggie was talking about crazy stuff on Brooklyn's finest , Tupac was a black panther in the 90's no biggie lyric could come close to being that hard
I met PAC at Rucker park when Above the Rim was being filmed. I have a pretty good judge of character and one thing I noticed about dude is that he wasn’t very aware of his surroundings. He was wearing the chain with the diamond encrusted cross while breaks in between shooting of the film with no care. I think he was caught up in the line light and loved the attention from fans. Never once caring about who may jack em. Maybe he felt like the hood would never betray him since he loved the hood. Either way dude had a presence that was undeniable. Rip Pac
Yea he admitted in a interview that he never thought someone black would do anything to him because he felt he was the representative for black ppl. So what you saying makes sense. He's originally from east harlem and left ny at age 13 so he probably felt like he was home and no need to worry or be aware.
That building was 463 7th Ave of 35th St.. My showroom was the next block at 485 7th Ave. I remember them days seeing Beanie and Dame going in and out that building.
I was in 6th grade when all of this bs beef was going in I didn’t understand it all I remember was it was east coast vs west coast! And I was for The east coast bc that’s where I am from! It’s was senseless and it’s sad that ppl still debate about it! Rest In Peace Tupac and Biggie!!🙏🏾🙏🏾
Biggie got killed because it seems like Biggie was Disrepecting Pac (In L.A.) But the whole thing is, Biggie was tryin' to show love for Pac at that radio station but to everbody in LA ..IT SEEM FAKE.. BIGGIE SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN IN L A THAT SOON.....
This is after Suge dissed the whole Bad Boy in NYC at the Source Awards and after Pac dissed Biggie for almost a whole year publicly since yall have selective memory. Yall want more respect than yall gave.
The reason is he went to la to soon and its not just that, he went there to promote his album and make money plus going to parties. LA saw this as disrespect. If he would of there just to pay homage to pac. I dont think they would of kill him. His arogance and going to parties and making videos in a place where pac was worship as a god, was a sign of disrespect.
Alot ppl talk about 2pac in hindsight as grown ups but remember 2pac died at the young age of 25. All these ppl that talk shit about 2pac if they had died at the young age of 25 nobody will remember them except their immediate family members fact. 2pac did alot in the short time he was with us. #legend
this was hard to listen too...I hate on every show don't matter what the show when the Jay and Dame conversation start Jay is the hero and Dame is the villain....it's not cool...does Jay have rappers on an an NDA or people outside their house it's never an real conversation.....Then to say Pac felt like he was selling records and was better than the East Coast seriously! It's to much documentation for this comment to say the opposite.. i typically rock with this show but this one naw...
Nah, JAY was ALSO the business far more than you realize. The business Jay handled then is the result of where he is now. If Dame was the magic on the business end, surely he should enjoy greater personal success today as well. Dame is smart. Short sighted hustler mind though. Jay is the true business man.
Everyone in this comments section is stuck in 1996/1997. Bruh, just let those 2 men rest in peace. They've been gone for almost 30 years, and sadly, we're not going to hear any new music from them.
It’s easy to blame j because he more Successful and jay don’t talk about it only threw his music. Nobody ever said dame was stealing company money falsifying the books and trying to be bigger then the artist and talking to the artist like he’s over him And many more things
@@damiantheomen9892 Yeah the dude just won't die! he spoke about reality so much and people still going through some of the same things as 20 years ago make his music relevant so basically pac will be relevant until nggaz get they shit together and make the issues we have a thing in the past tell the haters only way to kill 2pac is to do better lmao
He is not NY he choose the west he said any of you NY 🥷 that wanna bring bring it , this is westside till I die that was definitely a shot at NY but y’all are speaking for the whole NY we were riding for big just like how the coast was riding for pac when pac passed that shit broke everybody in NY we still loved pac
@@Polostar79 AND Y'ALL BE WATCHING EVERYTIME HE BE TELLING THEM STORIES ! LMAO P.S. JUST LIKE GENE DEAL BE TELLING BADBOY STORIES FROM 30 YEARS AGO RIGHT ??? 🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣
Why is it that folks wanna say that Pac took it too far with Hit Em Up but don't wanna say Biggie took it too far when he got on the radio had NY niggas go actually SHOOT UP the Dogg Pound video?
Pac said several times he made mistakes and that his mouth was too big. Pac knew his time was coming so he dropped the last music and interview. Judge a man fully from the beginning to the ending. The industry market Pac to be a certain way but the interviews show a different side. They even stopped Pac from talking in one interview explaining about the allegations of rape. Pac stated", I don't have problems with NY cats I am from there. I just have problems with a few of them". Pac was surprised he got shot by someone of his own race. Sad time in hip hop. I was young but he left a lasting impression.
You must not pay attention to much Pac. On "Only God Can Judge Me" he clearly states "and they tell me it's the white man I should fear, but it's my own kind doing all the killing here..." and Pac has been prophesying his own demise long before it ever happened. "Me Against the World" album was filled with it. He rapped exactly the way he spoke, as a revolutionary, a leader, and was willing to martyr himself to further his mission.
On this situation this wasn’t Tupac fault this wasn’t biggie Fault we all have to think about who was the middleman his name starts with a P🤔 and he’s gone by a mini of alias names P.S YOU Dare not to say his Name😱
C'mon bro. Every time Pac and Big get brought up Pac gets painted as the bad guy. But Pac was locked up when Big called the hit on the Dogg Pound. New York New York song was 1995! Nah Big was throwing rocks and hiding his hands!!!
BRO I SWEAR I TOTALLY AGREE THEM BAD BOY NIGGAS WAS SNEAK DISSIN. NOT ONLY THAT PAC WAS USING THAT SAMPLE FROM GET MONEY FIRST PUFFS BM TOLD HIM WHAT PAC WAS UP 2. SHE KNEW THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE MISSA WAS SLEEPING WITH SUGE AT THE TIME. BAD BOY STARTED THIS SHIT DEATH ROW ENDED IT. PAC WAS RIGHT ✅
I am tired of ppl acting like Bad Boy and aaBiige was innocent..them dudes were hanging with Pacs enemies..they were even paying those enemies...then trying to pretend that Who Shot Ya wasn't a diss track...that's phony. They were instigating in magazine interviews...
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 one of biggies best friends before music was gay, his son is gay, puffy is gay, biggie has some of the most gay lyrics in the history of rap, I wouldn't be surprised if biggie was on the dl so what's your point.
Innocent of what exactly? What enemies were they hangin' with? Paying his enemies? For What? A diss track? If it was, then what? Diss tracks are nothing new.
@@alfatir14 They were hangin' with Jimmy Henchman, the man who allegedly put the hit on Pac at Quad Studios to begin with. And, Jimmy was at Quad when Pac got shot. Little Shawn already confirmed this by saying that Jimmy kept coming back and forth in the studio session asking if Pac had arrived yet. Meanwhile, Pac was down in the lobby getting stuck up due to the hit that Henchman allegedly ordered on him.
I remember me and my brother hearing hit em up for the first time here in new york lol, we couldn't believe what we was hearing, i never heard a diss song like that before, and there was no diss songs like that in hip hop at the time. That song was like a declaration of war, of course there was no vaseline and that was personal but not to the extent of hit em up. after hit em up came out you felt like someone was gonna die after lol. Of course hit em up seems very tame now compared to these demonic ass drill diss songs these kids do nowadays but for 96 that song was wild.
Real moths fuckin gz Pooh man ain’t no love going at too short dude quick dolllaz an sence an many others just had to listen to more then the most mainstream rappers to find it
Another difference is pacs song was just music they other songs I named they was really beefing in the streets poohman shot up shorts studio ruthless an death row both had street politics/gangs backing them am me eght an dj quik was from a blood an drip set. Pac was just running his mouth on a song
2pac lied tho... He knew Jimmy set him up... He knew Biggie had nothing to do with it...Suge made him do that... yall 2pac Fanatics think he was tough lol... Thats the actor in him
I'm not worried about this guy portrayal of Pac. Pac's Legacy larger than life, & eclipse anything you could ever say about him. He's beloved by the world, & studied in college electives.... Little stories like this mean NOTHING, & is a far cry from diminishing Makaveli Tha Don... When in battle nobody cares about drawn blood or feelings being hurt.......... So FOH, a fight is a fight!
2pac is east coast also don't forget..
Crazy how rappers diss on wax but when Pac do it, it's not Art it's real life threats.
Which lead to him getting killed. You get what you asked for 🤷💯
@@phonymex3340 #CatchUp th-cam.com/video/6V0rVKXimuI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=wzxJSE0ipsAcQxMK
Tupac explained in the Thug Immortal interview that he was consolidating power, not just hyping up record sales. He was killed before he could convert that power into action, but the program he was describing and the coalitions he was building were inspiring. His connections in the movement, the fashion, music and movie industries would have made him very formidable.
He was a fraud
Tupac was the truth
His power was joining the bloods after success, getting himself killed, Biggie killed, and destroying hip hop. He sounded good but he glorified gang culture over hip hop culture. It’s been garbage every since.
@@TheNyion912
You mean "fraud" like when Pac, e.g., has shot those Two PIGz, even to Honorably Defend a Black Man from White Terrorism ?
Htpti [i.e., (May) Peace & Blessings be unto You]
@@TheNyion912 you don't even know Tupac or ever met him. Thats kinda short sighted on your part...........
That’s why Jay needed to get away from Dame. Everybody thought Jay was an artist and not the business man. Soon as they spit, we realized Jay was really smart about his business on his own.
Lyor Cohen... #NuffSaid
No he wasn't. He was used as a figurehead and got paid to do it. Anyone that's a slimy traitor can do that
Maybe he was MORE of a business man than they portrayed.
Facts
Another Pac discussion, That's why he's the goat, It's a new interview about Pac everyday.
Do you apply this same logic to Lebron James?
@@johnstamos4325 🤔🤔🤔
@@johnstamos4325 Say what now?🤷🏿♂️
@@johnstamos4325 stop the cap u mean that guy who just had the worst season of any NBA player lmao not him
Hoffa said it right yo they want me dead an they all fuck with the east in some kind of way taken all targets out pacs mentality lol an who dissing the whole music industry these dayz young boy who young boy friends with other then rondo pac rolled with bloods he wasn't one but hanged with them heavy but his best musical partner was a crip in snoop most of his hits were made by a crip name daz
It’s always Tupacs fault.
*But Wolf killed Big Jake from Deathrow, at point blank range.
*Puffy & Bad Boy shytted on Pac in Vibe Magazine after he got shot up at Quad. When they thought he was by himself, with no backup.
*Biggie jumped on the radio in NYC and instigated The Dogg Pound video set being shot up.
What this is about, and always has been about is. The perception that Deathrow was the more aggressive & stronger of the 2 groups beefing. And ppl from NYC hate that LA nggaz took it to them. This is what most fans perceive outside the New YorK area.
Just own it & be real!!
Tupac lucky he checked out early when dmx came on the scene
Tupac thought he could move with real street gs that revoked his thug life card
2pac started alot of BS for record sales. Shug Knight had him tripping he would not have done all that if he wasn't on Death Row.
@@jojosaylor8996 He started it by getting himself robbed 😒
@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 DMX crack head azz couldn’t even handle Kurupt.
we need to honor this man..Ralph is a national treasure of HH...
Fucc that…. With his lying azz
Facts!!!.
I think from Tupac he was hurt by the fact he and Biggie were friends and he felt Biggie had knowledge of the shooting and didn't give him an heads up. That's the part Tupac kept mentioning.
That was foolish thinking on his part. Tupac knew who sent that shooting at him and he knew it wasn’t Big yet he picked the easiest target he could find. Sucker move.
@@Polostar79 THE ONLY SUCKER IS YOU ! ALL IN THE COMMENTS SECTION STILL HAVING HATRED IN YOUR HEART FOR A DEAD RAPPER FROM 25 YEARS AGO ! SMDH 🤡
Easiest target lol.It was BEEF people.F badboy and everybody in it,he said.
@@Polostar79 was cool with the dude that shot him and nigga that robbed him and lined him so pac felt a way
@@Polostar79 Easiest target? Sucker move? Nigga brought smoke to a whole fucking coast!
“Hit ‘em up” is the greatest diss song of all time. #Legendary
That's the best you heard😂. What a joke... The bigger man doesn't respond to nonsense.. Love you Big....
@@TashaStroman Biggie waited to diss him after he was dead. Wtf are you talking about? Do your history and stop being a hater. SMFH
Ah , Either?
Hit em up the greatest.
Ether was. Tupac was yelling more than rapping. And all them no name features? Just ruined it
1 MAN , 2PAC TOOK DOWN THE
EASTCOAST BY HIMSELF 💯
Took on Bad Boy and Jay-z. Bootcamp Click, Grey Nice, Naughty by Nature , Eric B., Queen Latifah, Moni Love, all East Coast, were boys with Pac. Ask Nepolian from Outlawz who held Pac down in jail, the Puerto Ricans becauee Fat Joe sent a kite to the jails telling them to look out for Tupac. Eric B the one that told Tupac to squash it with Nas. Wu-tang had no beef with Tupac even had Method Man and Redman on All Eyez on Me
When Tupac came out with hit him up that was a wrap for biggie biggie wasn't coming back from that Tupac had the right to feel how he feel
It was a wrap for 2pac when a crip made sure he couldn't bounce back a second time
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 🤣🤣🤣 Yep that's why that Crip is in the Death Index and Pac isn't 🤡
Biggie would have been just fine and would probably be worth as much as Jay Z
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 but it's kind of funny how he whooped they ass and they came back with guns like b****** like most of you 🦀 are can't fight but he quick the shoot somebody Tupac all day everyday skip crab n*****😂😂😂😂
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 I can tell you a clown n*****🤡🤡for real
Video music box was hip hop at its finest 💎
Pac was young. Why do niggaz overlook that fact. Young niggaz make mistakes, but stop saying Pac took it too far. Pac did what he felt was right. I hate ppl who hate Tupac.
Dmx did what he felt was right by clapping back at pac for NY
Pac was brought up to be feminine
Exactly man
Here comes the fake pages hating on Pac 🤦🏾♂️
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 you a weird azz dude
It's something else when the only time big gets brought up in discussion is about the beef between him and Pac. When Pac gets brought up in discussion not only the beef was apart of his legacy with big but Pac also gets talked about without the beef so pac has more of a lengthy biography of countless story events of his life.
Big is big in NY and somewhat semi international but Pac is big all over the world even in the most remote places Pac is known.
Every where in Africa pac is the G.O.A.T
@@ivy8252 the biggest pac fans are from Africa. The love we have for this brother is unmatched.
@@batchsams facts
I was a baby when pac died but the ogs in my country gave him a lot of respect.
Let Tupac Rest, my God. We should focus and teach the young about his work ethic, intelligence which was on another level. Learn from his mistakes in order to grow.
The late 80s & 90s was hard and dangerous.
"I have enemies out there. Clearly they want me dead and they associate with all of you. So I've got to crush everybody." Well said.
If you don't like "Hit Em Up" and "Ether" you're hating.
Ether is hard but I can't be the only one that HATES that beat 😂
This episode touches on something important. An artist can be big in their respective coast but not necessarily in the other coast. Nipsey is a good example. I'm from Cali but I've spent some time on the east coast - dudes really weren't connecting with Nipsey like that. This was when he was still alive.
I definitely did and I am from THE BRONX. I enjoyed a lot of Nipseys material because I like his style and what he talks about
Big is a good example, his msin relevance is his beef with Pac
He wasn’t big in the south either. He’s garnered a lot respect in his passing though now that cats have went back and peeped his words and interviews. It’s his words and actions more than his music to me.
@@signsofthetimestvhq1134 I’ve said the same thing,Biggie is only mentioned when Pac is brought up
I liked a few of Nipsey's songs before he passed. His song with Jadakiss was huge in NY before he passed.
Nooooo big getting a video shoot shot up!!! That’s going to far I love bigg but I feel like he poisoned the game with the money cars and clothes bulshit now that’s all you hear and all you is chains
This is almost never talked about
I never thought about the video shoot. You might be right
This sounds stupid as fuck. You must not have ever brought a BIG album.
Speak on it!
Shout out discretion tv for bringing it to the internet 21 gun salute that y pac said see the competition flashing my jewelry dem dudes had hush up jewelry from quad studio on the low pass ing pac jewelry around
Y'all need to be talking about Biggies zesty and predatory rap lyrics 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He proudly rapped about fuckin people's kids in their asses and didn't care if a woman was pregnant when sticking her up smh
Thanks Captain!
Faith took it too far
Exactly, she knew not to go there and she did. So she gave her husband's enemy ammunition.
PUFFY took it too far,to this day!
Shout Out to Ralph McDaniels. Videos Music Box was everything to me growing up.💯💯💯
Dam I wish I could be a guest on the show jus to come and sit in the background and soak up knowledge
Ralph wasn't the only one in NY playing Hit em up on their show lol
Math just said it the best no more 2pac arguments..
Uncle Ralph has a book in him. He needs to write a book. He's witness so much in the industry. Would love to hear more stories from him. The interview wasn't long enough. Props though. 👋🏼🙏🏼📚
Great conversation! 2022
Shout out too the homie uncle ralph
Uncle Ralph is ah true legend 💯💯💯🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Controversy sells, but the entire East West coast beef was the most dangerous movement in HIP HOP
Tupac was right , how could he of took it to far when biggie was talking about crazy stuff on Brooklyn's finest , Tupac was a black panther in the 90's no biggie lyric could come close to being that hard
False
Bruh look like A$AP Rocky and I can't un-see it 🤦🏼♂️🤣🤣🤣 This always Dope Math
Man I use to run home after school to watch video music box legendary
I met PAC at Rucker park when Above the Rim was being filmed. I have a pretty good judge of character and one thing I noticed about dude is that he wasn’t very aware of his surroundings. He was wearing the chain with the diamond encrusted cross while breaks in between shooting of the film with no care. I think he was caught up in the line light and loved the attention from fans. Never once caring about who may jack em. Maybe he felt like the hood would never betray him since he loved the hood. Either way dude had a presence that was undeniable. Rip Pac
Yea he admitted in a interview that he never thought someone black would do anything to him because he felt he was the representative for black ppl. So what you saying makes sense. He's originally from east harlem and left ny at age 13 so he probably felt like he was home and no need to worry or be aware.
@@MrMarquis86 that sounds like a fool
Jay-Z still learned from Dame....and many more ppl
The legendary dj Ralph McDaniels
You give open up a whole different door to hip-hop, always interesting content 💯🤝🏾.
I remember staying up late watching the video music box back in 98
Don't dwell on what went wrong. Instead, focus on what to do next. Spend your energies on moving forward toward finding the answer.
Math having a hell of a run with great guest that people want to see.
Shans bridge
Got that feeling.
That beat is sick and hypnotizing.
But bridge is over
Is still good 👍🏾
I agree with Ralph
Thanks!
Ayyyyeeee!! #ChiefESSO O-my-Word! Lol!! #UncleLuke 🖤💯🧩🎯🗝🪶🎭🎼
Understand the meaning of Culture. Especially when Dame is stressing that word out
19-25 how did he accomplish so much Tupac. When you know you know. Tupac knew his time was limited.
His decision making limited his time. Period.
That building was 463 7th Ave of 35th St.. My showroom was the next block at 485 7th Ave. I remember them days seeing Beanie and Dame going in and out that building.
Definitely a classic Episode 👍👍👍
5:00 he was telling what he was goin do in the future 😂
Damnshame how his hometown still doesn’t show respect for him in New York #justsaying🤷🏾♂️
Fux w/ Math Hoffa. Gusher Park Brooklyn… Representin! Peace!
I was in 6th grade when all of this bs beef was going in I didn’t understand it all I remember was it was east coast vs west coast! And I was for The east coast bc that’s where I am from! It’s was senseless and it’s sad that ppl still debate about it! Rest In Peace Tupac and Biggie!!🙏🏾🙏🏾
Biggie got killed because it seems like Biggie was Disrepecting Pac (In L.A.) But the whole thing is, Biggie was tryin' to show love for Pac at that radio station but to everbody in LA ..IT SEEM FAKE.. BIGGIE SHOULD HAVE NOT BEEN IN L A THAT SOON.....
By freestyling Long Kiss in LA?? How was that showing Pac love
This is after Suge dissed the whole Bad Boy in NYC at the Source Awards and after Pac dissed Biggie for almost a whole year publicly since yall have selective memory. Yall want more respect than yall gave.
You can’t hear that interview and think it was showing love
The reason is he went to la to soon and its not just that, he went there to promote his album and make money plus going to parties. LA saw this as disrespect. If he would of there just to pay homage to pac. I dont think they would of kill him. His arogance and going to parties and making videos in a place where pac was worship as a god, was a sign of disrespect.
All of them saying they see why he did that is disk riding
They talked about J, they talked about Nas....But the who's the headline???? Oh, ok
Have the Jungle Brother's
I thought that was Russell Simmons..I'm like damn he snuck back into the country 🤣🤣🤣
Es$o taking G notes. Salute.
#RALPHIZLIVINLEGEND
Man, bump that! A man set me up to get me shot up and robbed, I would be screaming about sleeping with his wife too!
@@izaakwilliams8017 biggie set Pac up in Ny
@@tonyabela3799 it's 2022 and you still believe that?
@@tonyabela3799 the guys who raped thorax in prison still think about him at night
Tupac and his bs is the reason biggie is dead . Simple
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good
Biggie was envious of Tupac simple as that
Everytime I watch this show i can't help but to laugh cuz bruh in da black looks like Paul Mooney lmfaoh
Why when people mention Dame they always mention Harlem like that makes him better or smarter it definitely doesn’t
Imagine being the top artist on the label and a co ceo...hov wore alot of hats....
That was a Brooklyn move
I heard Jada and Pusha both say there is no such thing as too far!!!
People evolve and he woke up one day and now he's a business man.
" I want from waring to Warren" Jay Z
Alot ppl talk about 2pac in hindsight as grown ups but remember 2pac died at the young age of 25. All these ppl that talk shit about 2pac if they had died at the young age of 25 nobody will remember them except their immediate family members fact. 2pac did alot in the short time he was with us. #legend
The Bridge is Ova the Bridge is oVaaa whaaattttt!!! Bronx keeps on creating it & Queens keeps on faking it.
Contrary to popular belief, BIG was a little more of a mastermind and Gansta than Pac.. Pac was just more internationally well-favored.
this was hard to listen too...I hate on every show don't matter what the show when the Jay and Dame conversation start Jay is the hero and Dame is the villain....it's not cool...does Jay have rappers on an an NDA or people outside their house it's never an real conversation.....Then to say Pac felt like he was selling records and was better than the East Coast seriously! It's to much documentation for this comment to say the opposite.. i typically rock with this show but this one naw...
Tupac is from New York
2pAC and Biggie are in La Habana smoking Cuban cigars laughing at the world .
Nah, JAY was ALSO the business far more than you realize. The business Jay handled then is the result of where he is now. If Dame was the magic on the business end, surely he should enjoy greater personal success today as well. Dame is smart. Short sighted hustler mind though. Jay is the true business man.
Bishop the mad rapper was delusional.
those guys who took him in prison still think about him
Everyone in this comments section is stuck in 1996/1997. Bruh, just let those 2 men rest in peace. They've been gone for almost 30 years, and sadly, we're not going to hear any new music from them.
Dude what the hell video you're watching 🤨
Everybody always bringing up pac. R. I. P.
West Side is the Best Side RIP 🐐 Pac Killa Calis Kid
Dame needs to come on but if jay fell off after they would have said he should of not left dame also puff is as much to blame as shug
PAC been dead since 96 😂
How do you hate a nigga who been Dead for 26 years 😂
A win is a Win 😂
#2PacTheGoat
It’s easy to blame j because he more Successful and jay don’t talk about it only threw his music. Nobody ever said dame was stealing company money falsifying the books and trying to be bigger then the artist and talking to the artist like he’s over him And many more things
Pac is New York ya'll acting like the media ya'll know damn well Pac wasn't dissing the hole NY he still had folks out there
Facts thats why queens and harlem got love for pac still
Ny still bitter
@@damiantheomen9892 nah Brooklyn niggaz is bitter not queens niggaz not Harlem niggaz Definitely not Bronx niggaz bitter Brooklyn niggaz is bitter
@@damiantheomen9892 Yeah the dude just won't die! he spoke about reality so much and people still going through some of the same things as 20 years ago make his music relevant so basically pac will be relevant until nggaz get they shit together and make the issues we have a thing in the past tell the haters only way to kill 2pac is to do better lmao
He is not NY he choose the west he said any of you NY 🥷 that wanna bring bring it , this is westside till I die that was definitely a shot at NY but y’all are speaking for the whole NY we were riding for big just like how the coast was riding for pac when pac passed that shit broke everybody in NY we still loved pac
The ghost of pac still haunts the east lol
We don’t think about Tupac. Meanwhile you have dudes like Reggie Wright Jr still telling Death Row stories from 30 years ago.
@@Polostar79 AND Y'ALL BE WATCHING EVERYTIME HE BE TELLING THEM STORIES ! LMAO
P.S. JUST LIKE GENE DEAL BE TELLING BADBOY STORIES FROM 30 YEARS AGO RIGHT ??? 🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣
@@og3081 BIG FACTS
@@Polostar79 Yes y'all do
Pac is an all-time great that created timeless music..No biasness from this native New Yorker.
After pac died didn't bigg go on the radio and do long kiss goodnight. I don't want to hear no pac went too far.
And biggie died shortly after
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True
And then BIG got the long kiss goodnight. FCK em
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Tells u Pac could t really get with biggie if big ever wanted to drop verses. Pac was talented, biggie was gifted it's a difference..
Why is it that folks wanna say that Pac took it too far with Hit Em Up but don't wanna say Biggie took it too far when he got on the radio had NY niggas go actually SHOOT UP the Dogg Pound video?
Facts and shout out discretion tv biggie had tupac jewelry on from quad studio them dudes had pac jewelry on from quad passing it around
@@adeezy617newonenation i may tell the story on that chain and the Rolex
Biggie definitely went on hot 97 and told niggaz to go at dudes
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@@adeezy617newonenation salute
How Tupac took it too far but you still played the video
Right? Lol
Pac said several times he made mistakes and that his mouth was too big.
Pac knew his time was coming so he dropped the last music and interview.
Judge a man fully from the beginning to the ending.
The industry market Pac to be a certain way but the interviews show a different side.
They even stopped Pac from talking in one interview explaining about the allegations of rape.
Pac stated", I don't have problems with NY cats I am from there.
I just have problems with a few of them".
Pac was surprised he got shot by someone of his own race.
Sad time in hip hop.
I was young but he left a lasting impression.
You must not pay attention to much Pac. On "Only God Can Judge Me" he clearly states "and they tell me it's the white man I should fear, but it's my own kind doing all the killing here..." and Pac has been prophesying his own demise long before it ever happened. "Me Against the World" album was filled with it.
He rapped exactly the way he spoke, as a revolutionary, a leader, and was willing to martyr himself to further his mission.
On this situation this wasn’t Tupac fault this wasn’t biggie Fault we all have to think about who was the middleman his name starts with a P🤔 and he’s gone by a mini of alias names
P.S YOU Dare not to say his Name😱
C'mon bro. Every time Pac and Big get brought up Pac gets painted as the bad guy. But Pac was locked up when Big called the hit on the Dogg Pound. New York New York song was 1995! Nah Big was throwing rocks and hiding his hands!!!
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BRO I SWEAR I TOTALLY AGREE THEM BAD BOY NIGGAS WAS SNEAK DISSIN. NOT ONLY THAT PAC WAS USING THAT SAMPLE FROM GET MONEY FIRST PUFFS BM TOLD HIM WHAT PAC WAS UP 2. SHE KNEW THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE MISSA WAS SLEEPING WITH SUGE AT THE TIME. BAD BOY STARTED THIS SHIT DEATH ROW ENDED IT. PAC WAS RIGHT ✅
Pac wasnt no bad guy against dmx
@@dmxisbetterthantupac6528 nobody gave af about DMX in 96. Quit meat eating 😂
@@TheRealLeonardWashington meat eating 🤣😂 I can't wait to.use that
I am tired of ppl acting like Bad Boy and aaBiige was innocent..them dudes were hanging with Pacs enemies..they were even paying those enemies...then trying to pretend that Who Shot Ya wasn't a diss track...that's phony. They were instigating in magazine interviews...
Pac was frenemies with lgbtq bangers
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 one of biggies best friends before music was gay, his son is gay, puffy is gay, biggie has some of the most gay lyrics in the history of rap, I wouldn't be surprised if biggie was on the dl so what's your point.
Preach facts
Innocent of what exactly? What enemies were they hangin' with? Paying his enemies? For What? A diss track? If it was, then what? Diss tracks are nothing new.
@@alfatir14 They were hangin' with Jimmy Henchman, the man who allegedly put the hit on Pac at Quad Studios to begin with. And, Jimmy was at Quad when Pac got shot. Little Shawn already confirmed this by saying that Jimmy kept coming back and forth in the studio session asking if Pac had arrived yet. Meanwhile, Pac was down in the lobby getting stuck up due to the hit that Henchman allegedly ordered on him.
New York still salty Tupac shitted on them.
I remember me and my brother hearing hit em up for the first time here in new york lol, we couldn't believe what we was hearing, i never heard a diss song like that before, and there was no diss songs like that in hip hop at the time. That song was like a declaration of war, of course there was no vaseline and that was personal but not to the extent of hit em up. after hit em up came out you felt like someone was gonna die after lol. Of course hit em up seems very tame now compared to these demonic ass drill diss songs these kids do nowadays but for 96 that song was wild.
That song still is wild lol...that other stuff just trash 🗑
Real moths fuckin gz Pooh man ain’t no love going at too short dude quick dolllaz an sence an many others just had to listen to more then the most mainstream rappers to find it
Another difference is pacs song was just music they other songs I named they was really beefing in the streets poohman shot up shorts studio ruthless an death row both had street politics/gangs backing them am me eght an dj quik was from a blood an drip set. Pac was just running his mouth on a song
Cut it out there are worse disses than hit em up
@Alex A To the break of dawn - ll cool j
Salute to uncle Ralph, he was the prototype for many of us who were inspired to produce and broadcast hip hop media independently.
I loved pac for it. Thats the problem with soft beef rap today
2pac lied tho... He knew Jimmy set him up... He knew Biggie had nothing to do with it...Suge made him do that... yall 2pac Fanatics think he was tough lol... Thats the actor in him
He dissed his friend for what reason? To sell records?
You enjoy rappers beefing to the point of potential death? no wonder Pac stans are this loyal to him, you guys love that he's dead
He explained it,go listen to “hit em up” again.It was BEEF.
Pac was a paranoid weirdo
You can hate all you want, the income 2pac generate in 2021 is more than what some Rappers will make in their entire lives. RIP 2PAC
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He doesn't make anything 😭😭😭
I'm not worried about this guy portrayal of Pac. Pac's Legacy larger than life, & eclipse anything you could ever say about him. He's beloved by the world, & studied in college electives.... Little stories like this mean NOTHING, & is a far cry from diminishing Makaveli Tha Don... When in battle nobody cares about drawn blood or feelings being hurt.......... So FOH, a fight is a fight!
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