You should bring the "Without breaking the bank" series back, but this time make it for styles rather than specific artists. "Metal rig without breaking the bank", "Jazz rig without breaking the bank", and so on. There's people who play in bands of specific styles, and having an idea on what to look for their next upgrade would be great!
While 8 string is different kind of animal, it doesn't mean that you can't take pointers from that video. Just research the brands used there, try to find alternatives that suit your needs, etc.
@@georgemuller3998 watch the video again. the guy on the left plays both guitars in a row. i dont know if they swapped the pedals but i dont think they did. so its still fair enough for both guitars.
I think signatures/special editions shouldn't be included. For the extra $100 I'd probably just get the Gibson. But the G400 Pro for $399 makes it a much different debate.
Jeff S it's also an epiphone with Gibson pickups right? I don't even understand the premise of this video then lol. I love how rob refuses to actually use a clean channel instead of lowering the volume on his guitar while he uses his gain channel.
I was about to post the same thing! This is not the debate that most buyers have. Something like a MIM tele vs a Classic Vibe is more useful than a special edition.
The Trammell I used to hunt elk. Killed a 6x7 bull when I was 15. Never had sausage from them though. Usually just tossed it off to the side along with the mountain oysters while quartering it up. Lol
socialmeasles But the discussion is about demonstrating the strengths and weaknesses of a specific guitar and whether one specific person has a better guitar in their collection isn’t really relevant to the point about a demo/comparison video properly showing off the full range of tones from a given guitar. 🤷🏼♂️
James Mulligan what makes you think andertons would prefer selling gibson’s over epiphone’s. Zero Logic. I have many guitar’s and bass’s from Both and yes Gibson one’s are far superior. But i still like some epi’s and they are good for that price. It is just that gibson is better, you should not hate them for that.
I always feel that comparison videos need both guitars going through identical amps and pedals with the same settings. That way we see where the true tone lies under the same circumstances. It's all good swapping guitars but why not do it side by side instead of switching over? Love these videos though!
The Tony Iommi SG is awesome! I think the most important fact are his pickups. I own a SG special from Gibson. First with 490T-, than with 498T-pickups and I wasn't happy with the sound. Now I own a Tony Iommi pickup.... I should make a video and compare these pickups. :)
Three screws are used because in order to save money they route a continuous channel down the neck for the truss rod to be embedded. They do not leave a piece of wood separating the truss rod route from the truss rod nut which is desirable in order to stabilize the Gibson neck. Gibson does this and Epiphone does not...so there is no wood for the bottom Gibson style screw on the cover to be screwed into. Epiphone has to use three screws (two at the bottom to be able to screw into the neck. By sidestepping the open space left by Epiphone.
It would have been really interesting to compare the Gibson SG against the Epi G-400, since these are more similar than the guitars presented here. Gotta say, the Iommi SG looks killer!
The G 400 is a very good guitar,....but since it's a Chinese Standard against an American Standard the American would win,.....the Epiphone Worn G 400 is comparable to a Gibson SG special or 60's tribute,...a lot of the Epiphone's today have pickups made and wound in the U.S.A.,.....also the one guitarist in Judas Priest plays an Epiphone custom Flying V,....it's a $1000 guitar,...but the same as the standard except with block inlay binding on the neck and his signature pick ups,.....as far as I know block inlays don't make the make the guitar sound any better,.....but that guy is rich enough to play any guitar he wants, and he play Epiphones,.....I've even seen pics of Zakk playing Epiphones on stage,...I'm sure he swaps the pick ups out, but he still on occasion plays Epi's
TheProgGuy The dsl he means is probably the 15 watter and its cheap. I think its made in china even . It and the 40 are trash. The jet city thats really cheap is the 20 watter but the other stuff aside from low wattage stuff which helps keep it cheap everything else isn't that cheap. Now bugera is definitely a cheap brand. Jet city started out that way but go look at some of their stuff on musicians friend its high as hell for alot of it.
I got 2 deer this season, have meat for the whole winter and spring.. Not bad for under only spending 13 bucks for ammo, i have meat for most fo the year, and it's organic with no nasty hormones, and the animals had a good life not stuck in a pen, living a shitty life..
you dont gotta defend yourself. someone tells you not to hunt tell em to enjoy scraping deer outta the grill of their car. Just do it legally and no one can say a word.
There's something about a Gibson SG Special that just makes it so appealing, I personally like it more than the SG Standard. I have an Epiphone G-310 and G400 Pro and the are incredible guitars!
The Iommi SG is pretty much a G400 with a set of Gibson Iommi pups. I own both a black G400 Pro and a Gibson SG Special and the Gibson has deeper cuts and bevels, true to the classic SG shape and the G400 doesn't. It honestly feels more like a cross between a SG and a Tele. The Gibson SG needed a new nut and some fret work before it was a great playing guitar, while the G400 Pro was great out of the box. The G400 just doesn't feel as high quality. It's thicker and bulkier than the Gibson, but yet it's lighter in weight, which makes me question the grade or type of mahogany hidden under the black paint. Gibson wins for feel and quality. Tone is subjective to whatever pickups are in it. The stock Gibson 490s are way brighter than an Iommi set, which are dark and brooding on purpose.
I though Tony's SG had 24 frets,...pick ups are a huge thing in tone,...sound wise just note a fair comparison.......if it's your main guitar for blues of classic rock,..it's gotta be a Gibson.
Aren't all SG's pretty light?......another thing that's good to note is that the head stock angle on an Epiphone is NOT as deep as the head stock angle of a Gibson,...it's dosn't correct the tuning problems of a Gibson SG, but it helps quite a bit,.....I got my U.S.A. Gibson Les Paul, used, and the guy before me put locking Grovers on it,....it never goes out of tune,.....I know a lot of people have tuning issues with Gibsons,...but I'm pretty sure it can be corrected,....because I have locking tuners on my Fenders, I got in a bad habit of only putting like a turn and a half on the strings when I put them on any of my guitars,...they all seem to stay in tune except for the SG,....someone on here said if you put 3 to 5 wraps around the post it will keep them in tune,...they are probably right,...but I'm getting locking Grovers for my SG because I'm lazy......Also they make roller bridges for Epiphone's,......Don't get them for a U.S.A. Gibson because they WON'T FIT
Gents, please stop using all those pedals when demonstrating guitars it would be nice to hear the clean and drive from the amp to better judge the guitar, if you must use pedals use them for your jams.
you lads are literally the best in the TH-cam guitar scene. great info, funny as hell and last but not least you play the shit out of these guitars. nice one mates. Thank you
*Iommi all day, every day. Even if you get lucky and Gibson didn't do "as per usual" and forget some frets or put the wiring harness in upside down, the Iommi is stuffed with fantastic parts, will be put together extremely nicely because it's a signature edition, and if you've never played an ebony fretboard, you're really missing it.*
using so many pedals completely destroyed any tone comparison. never mind one very custom guitar. which obviously had a distinct sound. they seem to search for the worst tone they can get on the cheapest guitars they review. not that these videos are serious comparisons, but it's annoying hearing complete fizz every video.
MrSongwriter2 Chappers understands guitars... understands heavy drive tones... but hasn’t got the first clue about clean tones I’m afraid. You can tell this early on this video when he asks the Captain “can I have a clean tone?” The Captain replies with surprise in the affirmative and Chappers proceeds to play with what is clearly a crunch tone... and a disappointing one at that. 🤷🏼♂️
The pickups in that particular Epi. are more like EMG'S so its like comparing apples to oranges, you guy's should have used the Epi. SG400 pro with it's classic pickups, that would have been more of a fair comparison in my opinion.
...you didn't inform us what pickups are on the gibby?...what tuning heads are on both???...did the epi have a push/pull on one knob???......(when comparing 2 guitars...I would suggest using the same amp/settings/cable...forget using pedals and just use an amp with clean and distortion channels)......may I also say the humor was spot on however, as usual...
Yeah it feels like they forgot the 3 minute chunk of the video where they actually talk about the differences in specification. As entertaining as always, but very half-arsed as any kind of comparison.
Hi, guys. I love what you do. For what it's worth. I've talked to Gibson Guitars several times about the difference between Gibson and Epiphone. Gibson always uses better wood grades no matter what the price range of the guitar. So they will always be slightly superior no matter the price range. I'm sure you already new that. BTW. Chapman Guitars are awesome. Love what you are doing.
"They're both great! I mean they're worth their price, obviously you should buy the most expensive one, but the cheapest is good too, I mean... Ah fuck!"
Hrm... I wonder how fair this is. The Tony Iommi signature SG has original Gibson pickups. I think the Epiphone G400 Pro would be a fairer fully fledged Epiphone pick for a Gibson VS Epiphone battle.
LogiForce86 Me too. At this point why don't you spend a little more to buy a real Gibson? Better use a G400 Pro. It costs around 400£ and it will be a more fair duel
I just picked up a mint condition Epiphone SG Pro 400 for $75 and it’s freaking awesome. At $400 retail new, it’s a lot of guitar for the price. At $75, it might be my best deal ever.
Yes please, more recognizable riffs on this channel. It is nice to have the repeaded riffs so sounds can be compaired betwen videos and guitars/amps. BUT please do throw in more recognizable riffs especially when someone is so connected to a guitar like here. AND of course ANY kind of shootout comparisons like this you can possibly think up, all day every day! for hours and hours, please.
Bryn Auger I understand what you're saying but I heard them play something recently I can't remember what, they had the other guy from Dorje again I can't remember his name. My memory is terrible probably earlier onset alzheimer's but they did an altered version of whatever song. I think it might have been from a sounds like AC/DC and it just sounded terrible. The stuff that they played that was supposed to sound like AC/DC sounded nothing at all like they'd play. Personally I hate the same riffs they play over and over again but I can understand why they keep playing the same thing to give people a better understanding of the differences between the guitars
This is not an accurate test. Anyone can tell you that paint color has an immense impact on tone. I mean seriously, the iommi sig sounds so much brighter as all the light is being absorbed into the guitar. Not only that, but how could u guys not realize that one has a smaller pickguard than the other? The added plywood enhances the bass frequency response as their is more total wood as well as enhancing the sustain. Anyone who can't hear these differences or claims that they make no difference are clearly trolls. Pay no heed to them.
Oh dear me, how could I forget the inlays??? The dot inlays allows better spacing when playing staccato by narrowing the frequency range by lessening the highs and lows, hence the circles whereas the crosses lower the mid frequency on your amp as the arm is closer to the "bass" string on the guitar. Don't let anyone tell you anything about tone woods or pickup covers
Ronald Felei please do not use your ears when comparing tones. Materials have no affect on tone it is only the appearance of the instrument that matters.
As an American, can confirm that "dear" is only how you start a letter to someone you don't know. Also more "deer" is said than "dear" here. We just call expensive stuff "expensive."
You guys give me so much info on these two guitars. Thank you so much. I did buy the Epiphone SG Pro Limited in black. I love it show much. Thank you for love of the instrument that is the guitar. Keep up the great videos and love of guitars! Many thanks for California!
Captain Lee playing Metal/Black Sabbath? That's a shocker, also for some ideas how about: - Cheapest ESP vs. Most Expensive LTD - Most Expensive Squire Bass vs. Cheapest Fender Bass - Most Expensive Schecter vs. Most Affordable Schecter - Most Expensive Boss pedal vs. Cheapest MXR pedal
Also if I ever bought a Hatsune Miku pedal I bet that'd be an awesome piece of gear to use while in Japan; It sounds somewhat pointless but absolutely hilarious at the same time
I own the Iommi SG from Epi and it's the best SG out there IMHO. I particularly like the Iommi humbuckers, the small pickguard, the 24 frets, the edge mounted output jack, the non-Pleked graphite nut, and the horn mounted strap button. The only complaint I had out of the box was the fact that the tops of the frets were rough, as if a step were missed during building. I cleaned them up myself and haven't looked back. My SG needs have been filled.
Not sure about that. Those Epi Iommis are still making £400+ online 2nd hand & I don't think you'd get much more for the Gibson faded. The few I've seen sell so far have gone for a similar price to the Epi's so you'd lose around £100 on the Gibson.
Sorry but this is oft repeated and just not correct. New Gibson SG Standard 2017 at GC: $1400. Used SG Standard: $700 to $800. You do NOT get your money back on used Gibbies if you bought it new more than any other guitar.
Muix eranga Okay, am I, like, the only person in existence who buys a guitar *without* the intention of selling it? Does _nobody_ else on this planet actually plan to keep a guitar when they buy it?
I honestly feel the Gibson had the better sound. The tones, sustain and look is better to me. I've owned a G400 epiphone and it's a good guitar, but it doesn't sound like a gibson.
Between the tommy iommi and the gibson faded there are a lot differences on the sound, but I think that if u compare the faded gibson with the epiphone G400 the sound pretty much the same
Shouldnt be, theyre brilliant. I have an epiphone brent hinds, Gibson Faded and a Jackson RR Pro. All brilliant once you get used to sitting between your legs its not too bad.
The Toni Iommi signature seems more Gibson than Epiphone with all the bells and whistles. The Toni Iommi signature pick-ups are Gibson pick-ups and they are quite different than many standard alnico sets because they are a hybrid pickup with Alnico 2's, Ceramic magnets, wax potted and sealed with epoxy, the price of those pick-ups alone drives a solid argument to get one of these Epiphone models. Therefore it would have been more interesting to go with a comparison between the Epiphone G400 pro, and the Faded Gibson SG. I believe it's a good idea to get an Epiphone SG when you're either first starting out or on a steep budget and upgrade the pick-ups to classic 57's, burst buckers, or your favorite non Gibson pick-ups like Seymore Duncan's when/if you feel dissatisfied with the Epiphone ones and want something a bit better. If you have the money to spend however you can't go wrong with Gibson SG's, I'd prefer one a bit nicer than the faded, with trapezoidal inlays and other classic features but that's just me.
my 2016 SG Faded plays like a dream!!! i'll never sell it. I love the thin nitro, the wear over the years is cool and the neck just feels better and better the more you play.
I like that the guitars are balanced on different sides of the left and right. I happen to have two different sounding IEMs due to different fittings in my ear. Many others may experience the same effects even with something as simple as slightly more hearing damage on one side.
And how much had you had to drink before filming this? I did learn one guitar was black and one wasn't. All good though this was proper entertaining. More like this ha ha :)
There is a physical difference in the way the neck is connected and how it is attached to the body! The Gibson gets amazing sustain because the neck extends further out from the body at its connection point. The Epiphone can be a little short on sustain but it has a more stable neck attachment to the body which can give you some very deep tones in the mid-range! I'm not sure if the string length is identical but the Epi's can be difficult to intonate properly!
Notwithstanding the dill and sausage detour, I enjoyed the video. I own a Faded SG very similar to the one used, and I was happy to see it tested in this way. 7 seconds of sustain on the Gibson versus 3.5 seconds on the Epiphone was the most telling moment for me. The extended comparison on the D chord was also interesting -- clearly, the pickups on the Gibson were brighter and had more chime than those on the Epiphone (although both had Gibson pickups). One problem I have with my Faded SG, which I don't with my SG Standard, is significant neck dive. It would have been useful, I think, to have considered that issue when comparing the 2 guitars in this video. Nice video, though. I always enjoy them, even with the dill and sausage.
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Rob: "We'll just have a little clean tone"
*CRUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNCH*
TroobAdoreMusic *steps on a pile of leafs for the clean tone*
Hunter Jegou but the leaves are dry
It's the "fluff" signature clean
i can make any guitar sound like a 20$ guitar
Hahaha
Nice super power
antoniosomera HAHAHAHA
Damn ! You got better than the video you said 30$! What a pro!
lol
You should bring the "Without breaking the bank" series back, but this time make it for styles rather than specific artists.
"Metal rig without breaking the bank", "Jazz rig without breaking the bank", and so on.
There's people who play in bands of specific styles, and having an idea on what to look for their next upgrade would be great!
Glenn Fricker already did an 8 string rig that doesn't completely suck for 450$
I was thinking about 6-string rigs. Not a lot of people use 8-strings as far as I know.
And what I would be REALLY interested in is a Punk-Rock rig.
While 8 string is different kind of animal, it doesn't mean that you can't take pointers from that video. Just research the brands used there, try to find alternatives that suit your needs, etc.
"Most teenage boys love shooting out in general"
I know I did ;)
I think they still do.
Franz Olivar mcr fam
I do
*Pumped up kicks plays*
You should only use 1 amp and no pedals to compare
Jimbo Guitar pants its the same pedals and amps for both because its the same guy who plays them at one part of the video so its fair enough.
@@ozanozenir2503 those are not the same amps nor pedals.
@@georgemuller3998 watch the video again. the guy on the left plays both guitars in a row. i dont know if they swapped the pedals but i dont think they did. so its still fair enough for both guitars.
They should both use the Hatsune Miku pedal for every comparison
I think signatures/special editions shouldn't be included. For the extra $100 I'd probably just get the Gibson. But the G400 Pro for $399 makes it a much different debate.
Was about to post this. Signatures that differ too much in pickups/specs shouldn't be compared to regular models
Jeff S it's also an epiphone with Gibson pickups right? I don't even understand the premise of this video then lol. I love how rob refuses to actually use a clean channel instead of lowering the volume on his guitar while he uses his gain channel.
Agreed, I just posted the same thing (without checking to see if anyone else has) :)
Lol
I was about to post the same thing! This is not the debate that most buyers have. Something like a MIM tele vs a Classic Vibe is more useful than a special edition.
There's only one logical conclusion: The black one is Sabbath, the red one ACDC... obviously.
Silber7 But now AC/DC's Angus Young uses a black Gibson SG
Ekta Rana he uses a red one. The black one was a gift
It has nothing to do the the color, but exactly right......two different styles of music.
Ekta Rana And on the original Sabbath records, Tony used a red SG.
Angus is just a SG user iommi is the SG Father
You should do a metal rig with like Bluesy/Jazz gear vs a Metal rig with Bluesy/Jazzy guitars
oh yes. yes pls.
gibson es-175 with flatwounds through an EVH 5150 vs ibanez rg through a roland jazz chorus
Yes
I'm confused
I mean like getting a Gretsch and plugging into a Messa Boggie with a metal zone vs a Schecter 7 String through a Fender amp with flanger pedal
as an SG owner I gotta say that Epi is not only great sounding but it looks so damn good
Definitely should have done the G400 Pro instead of Iommi sig model.
Yess I would like this too!!
Agreed
You are correct, I have the G400 les Paul custom, and sounds great
Epiphone G400 Sg pro is incredible
I have both, the Epi SG Pro 400 and the Gibson SG Faded 2018. You'd be well served with either one.
Cheapest elk sausage vs most expensive elk sausage
The Trammell they'd have to get Joe Rogan to way in on that 😂
The Trammell I used to hunt elk. Killed a 6x7 bull when I was 15. Never had sausage from them though. Usually just tossed it off to the side along with the mountain oysters while quartering it up. Lol
Gutslinger I've never laughed so much at a TH-cam comment in my life
"clean tone" in Chappersese translates to "blues dirt"
Beery Yep... was thinking myself that Chappers really doesn’t understand the concept of a clean tone. 🤦🏼♂️
David Burke his clean tone means acoustic
McMuffinFluffin Hehe. I’ve never seen him play acoustic. I kinda suspect he finds a way to get drive on that too! 😛
socialmeasles And why not? They have a nice clean sound. 🤷🏼♂️ Too many guitarists are too narrow minded.
socialmeasles But the discussion is about demonstrating the strengths and weaknesses of a specific guitar and whether one specific person has a better guitar in their collection isn’t really relevant to the point about a demo/comparison video properly showing off the full range of tones from a given guitar. 🤷🏼♂️
Why would you not use the same amp and pedals in a demonstration? Play it with no pedals or effects first as well.
Because they want to sell Gibson's
Jerry W 🙏🏻
James Mulligan what makes you think andertons would prefer selling gibson’s over epiphone’s. Zero Logic. I have many guitar’s and bass’s from Both and yes Gibson one’s are far superior. But i still like some epi’s and they are good for that price. It is just that gibson is better, you should not hate them for that.
@@oggamer3737 Probably a much higher profit margin on Gibsons over the Epiphones.
@@petrolhead1077 OK. I guestimate that anderton’s get’s more profit from epiphone deals. No proof but who need those when we can just spew shit.
Not a really fair comparison if you're using a signature guitar, you should have used an epiphone sg 400.
They chose the guitars by price.
@@no-hx7fh the Sg 400 is higher priced isn't it
@@georgemuller3998 um,no it isnt?
Giovanni Anzalone I had a second hand sg400 years ago that was such a great guitar. It is the only one I kick myself for selling.
@@georgemuller3998 no the Tony iommi is about 400 dollars more lol
Imo Gibson SG's are some of the nicest looking guitars
"sober"
Neuritis fischer "clean"
Neuritis fischer "unfucked up"
Neuritis fischer "Mid range"
Sea Level Cain - i thought you only commented on every MMA video i watch but now its every video on youtube!!
Yea... All that... "Pepsi"...
They're "joining the conversation" all the time.
I always feel that comparison videos need both guitars going through identical amps and pedals with the same settings. That way we see where the true tone lies under the same circumstances. It's all good swapping guitars but why not do it side by side instead of switching over? Love these videos though!
I'd buy the Epiphone and use the $100 savings to buy a Micu pedal, after all, its the Micu that really gives you that signature sound
The Tony Iommi SG is awesome! I think the most important fact are his pickups. I own a SG special from Gibson. First with 490T-, than with 498T-pickups and I wasn't happy with the sound. Now I own a Tony Iommi pickup.... I should make a video and compare these pickups. :)
riff.dude yes you should
Three screws are used because in order to save money they route a continuous channel down the neck for the truss rod to be embedded. They do not leave a piece of wood separating the truss rod route from the truss rod nut which is desirable in order to stabilize the Gibson neck. Gibson does this and Epiphone does not...so there is no wood for the bottom Gibson style screw on the cover to be screwed into. Epiphone has to use three screws (two at the bottom to be able to screw into the neck. By sidestepping the open space left by Epiphone.
Obviously
Best Jazz lounge tone with Active EMG equipped guitar VS Best Metal tone with a vintage archtop guitar.
Paul Wendt that would indeed be quite an interesting video in my humble opinion
Next vid should definately be this!
It would have been really interesting to compare the Gibson SG against the Epi G-400, since these are more similar than the guitars presented here. Gotta say, the Iommi SG looks killer!
The G 400 is a very good guitar,....but since it's a Chinese Standard against an American Standard the American would win,.....the Epiphone Worn G 400 is comparable to a Gibson SG special or 60's tribute,...a lot of the Epiphone's today have pickups made and wound in the U.S.A.,.....also the one guitarist in Judas Priest plays an Epiphone custom Flying V,....it's a $1000 guitar,...but the same as the standard except with block inlay binding on the neck and his signature pick ups,.....as far as I know block inlays don't make the make the guitar sound any better,.....but that guy is rich enough to play any guitar he wants, and he play Epiphones,.....I've even seen pics of Zakk playing Epiphones on stage,...I'm sure he swaps the pick ups out, but he still on occasion plays Epi's
Nice vid guys. How about a cheap valve amp vs an expensive solid state.
rezner101 they would use the Bassbreaker or dsl
If they wanted to take it a step further they could get the orange tiny terror and the orange 1x12
rezner101 DSL isn't cheap. A Bugera or Jet City would be a cheap tube amp.
te meoo dijo el barsinso
TheProgGuy The dsl he means is probably the 15 watter and its cheap. I think its made in china even . It and the 40 are trash. The jet city thats really cheap is the 20 watter but the other stuff aside from low wattage stuff which helps keep it cheap everything else isn't that cheap. Now bugera is definitely a cheap brand. Jet city started out that way but go look at some of their stuff on musicians friend its high as hell for alot of it.
Gibson SG 15:30 Vs Epiphone SG 6:38
Thanks man...wish more people would just get down to business in their vids other than providing vital info
15:00 - Hammer to Fall
Knew I heard a queen song in there
you should do the epiphone explorer vs Gibson explorer
Hamish Strachan I was thinking the exact same thing
Guys please do standard American fender vs standard Mexican fender
Andrés Correal Guaranteed you won't hear a difference. That's if you do a blind test anyways.
DangerousOne326 I think the biggest difference would be the feeling
Haven't they done that like 50 times?
Andrés Correal They've done it a few years ago with tele and strat, including blind test which included Custom shop, Squire, Mexican, American.
Andrés Correal or even most expensive squier
"Can I have a clean tone?" - Switches to fizzy crunch
That Gibson SG has such a beautiful finish on it. I love the red grain.
1:43 dick dale - misirlou
2:10 Black sabbath paranoid
3:02 Black sabbath- iron man
Thanks man I know its late but u helped me with the dick dale
Love these videos guys! Most affordable US made PRS vs most expensive SE would be awesome.
they already did this with blind folds on.
That just discourages people from buying American PRS's
I think Signature guitars should be excluded from ALL THESE COMPARISON videos, regardless of brand/type/style etc:
Most expensive signature guitar vs. most affordable signature guitar?
Veganism is a moral imperative I think slash has a dig for like 80 quid or something so that would be fun
"clean tone"
"In America, do you know what 'dear' means? As in 'that's dear?'"
"Nah they say 'we shoot deer! in duh forest!"
lmao
I got 2 deer this season, have meat for the whole winter and spring.. Not bad for under only spending 13 bucks for ammo, i have meat for most fo the year, and it's organic with no nasty hormones, and the animals had a good life not stuck in a pen, living a shitty life..
Im american. 😊
I love subtle British humour tickling those 'Muricans
zip it yer spanish goof
you dont gotta defend yourself. someone tells you not to hunt tell em to enjoy scraping deer outta the grill of their car. Just do it legally and no one can say a word.
There's something about a Gibson SG Special that just makes it so appealing, I personally like it more than the SG Standard.
I have an Epiphone G-310 and G400 Pro and the are incredible guitars!
To me the SG looks better pared back and simpler like the special. Looks really "authentic" in a way
THEY USED THE MIKU!! My life is complete
McModMod McMod It just makes the video better somehow, right? XD
McModMod McMod I got a miku......she is a hard girl to play.
The Iommi SG is pretty much a G400 with a set of Gibson Iommi pups. I own both a black G400 Pro and a Gibson SG Special and the Gibson has deeper cuts and bevels, true to the classic SG shape and the G400 doesn't. It honestly feels more like a cross between a SG and a Tele. The Gibson SG needed a new nut and some fret work before it was a great playing guitar, while the G400 Pro was great out of the box. The G400 just doesn't feel as high quality. It's thicker and bulkier than the Gibson, but yet it's lighter in weight, which makes me question the grade or type of mahogany hidden under the black paint. Gibson wins for feel and quality. Tone is subjective to whatever pickups are in it. The stock Gibson 490s are way brighter than an Iommi set, which are dark and brooding on purpose.
I though Tony's SG had 24 frets,...pick ups are a huge thing in tone,...sound wise just note a fair comparison.......if it's your main guitar for blues of classic rock,..it's gotta be a Gibson.
Aren't all SG's pretty light?......another thing that's good to note is that the head stock angle on an Epiphone is NOT as deep as the head stock angle of a Gibson,...it's dosn't correct the tuning problems of a Gibson SG, but it helps quite a bit,.....I got my U.S.A. Gibson Les Paul, used, and the guy before me put locking Grovers on it,....it never goes out of tune,.....I know a lot of people have tuning issues with Gibsons,...but I'm pretty sure it can be corrected,....because I have locking tuners on my Fenders, I got in a bad habit of only putting like a turn and a half on the strings when I put them on any of my guitars,...they all seem to stay in tune except for the SG,....someone on here said if you put 3 to 5 wraps around the post it will keep them in tune,...they are probably right,...but I'm getting locking Grovers for my SG because I'm lazy......Also they make roller bridges for Epiphone's,......Don't get them for a U.S.A. Gibson because they WON'T FIT
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Gents, please stop using all those pedals when demonstrating guitars it would be nice to hear the clean and drive from the amp to better judge the guitar, if you must use pedals use them for your jams.
John Jackman also not using a 2,000 dolars amp on a 500$ guitar
Donald Lentz I don't think that law would apply to the Captain and Chappers, as they are from the UK, yes?
Also, they usually use different amps, which pisses me off.
@@realalienstories Captains amp sounded so much better not the god aweful fizz of chappers
@@SeaDrive300 Trump is a giant bell end. He should be banned.
you lads are literally the best in the TH-cam guitar scene. great info, funny as hell and last but not least you play the shit out of these guitars. nice one mates. Thank you
Not sure Chappers understands "clean tone". It sounded just a little less distorted than usual.
Faux Pas Well, if it was with the Iommi SG, the pickups really don't allow clean tones :D
@@Tuukkis that wasnt just the sound of hot pickups. That was mild overdrive. Sounded like a preamp pedal or boost was on
i love my epiphone SG! thanks for this video, im loving it more!
this show is like top gear for guitars, I love it
Jack Whittaker The fact that you put it that way made this show better than it already is
At this price:
Gibson: Sound and feel.
Epiphone: Looks.
Rob's face at 12:17, the look of utmost shock at the two screw method
and that simultaneous head shift was pretty sick
*Iommi all day, every day. Even if you get lucky and Gibson didn't do "as per usual" and forget some frets or put the wiring harness in upside down, the Iommi is stuffed with fantastic parts, will be put together extremely nicely because it's a signature edition, and if you've never played an ebony fretboard, you're really missing it.*
I really like the part where you compared the sound of one chord. It's easier to find out the differences!!
Rory, great editing! as always.
MartinRonky cheers mate!
using so many pedals completely destroyed any tone comparison. never mind one very custom guitar. which obviously had a distinct sound. they seem to search for the worst tone they can get on the cheapest guitars they review.
not that these videos are serious comparisons, but it's annoying hearing complete fizz every video.
Chappers always seems to have a really trebley fizzy tone on a lot of the videos.
MrSongwriter2 Chappers understands guitars... understands heavy drive tones... but hasn’t got the first clue about clean tones I’m afraid. You can tell this early on this video when he asks the Captain “can I have a clean tone?” The Captain replies with surprise in the affirmative and Chappers proceeds to play with what is clearly a crunch tone... and a disappointing one at that. 🤷🏼♂️
Chappers likes his tone like his underpants..... DIRTY
The pickups in that particular Epi. are more like EMG'S so its like comparing apples to oranges, you guy's should have used the Epi. SG400 pro with it's classic pickups, that would have been more of a fair comparison in my opinion.
3:01 where did you get the audio of me playing guitar?!
...you didn't inform us what pickups are on the gibby?...what tuning heads are on both???...did the epi have a push/pull on one knob???......(when comparing 2 guitars...I would suggest using the same amp/settings/cable...forget using pedals and just use an amp with clean and distortion channels)......may I also say the humor was spot on however, as usual...
Yeah it feels like they forgot the 3 minute chunk of the video where they actually talk about the differences in specification. As entertaining as always, but very half-arsed as any kind of comparison.
I lost it with the piano when they were doing the Vulcan hand sign 😂
The Captain ripping on some Sabbath, now THAT's "dear" in the US!
Hi, guys. I love what you do. For what it's worth. I've talked to Gibson Guitars several times about the difference between Gibson and Epiphone. Gibson always uses better wood grades no matter what the price range of the guitar. So they will always be slightly superior no matter the price range. I'm sure you already new that. BTW. Chapman Guitars are awesome. Love what you are doing.
I absolutely adore how chappers pronounce "Mjölner", that's real quality content for ya
Derek Trucks plays his SG clean :) no pedals just a loud ass amp and a guitar!
cheapest chapman vs the most expensive chapman
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"They're both great! I mean they're worth their price, obviously you should buy the most expensive one, but the cheapest is good too, I mean... Ah fuck!"
Hrm... I wonder how fair this is. The Tony Iommi signature SG has original Gibson pickups. I think the Epiphone G400 Pro would be a fairer fully fledged Epiphone pick for a Gibson VS Epiphone battle.
You'd be spening too much for the pick up upgrade,....just use the money to get a used Gibson SG Special
LogiForce86 Me too. At this point why don't you spend a little more to buy a real Gibson? Better use a G400 Pro. It costs around 400£ and it will be a more fair duel
I just picked up a mint condition Epiphone SG Pro 400 for $75 and it’s freaking awesome. At $400 retail new, it’s a lot of guitar for the price. At $75, it might be my best deal ever.
how bro
I don't know if these videos are getting more informative, but they are becoming increasingly entertaining :)
Miku is my favorite guest character on the show.
Yes please, more recognizable riffs on this channel. It is nice to have the repeaded riffs so sounds can be compaired betwen videos and guitars/amps. BUT please do throw in more recognizable riffs especially when someone is so connected to a guitar like here.
AND of course ANY kind of shootout comparisons like this you can possibly think up, all day every day! for hours and hours, please.
doo do do do DO do DO do
NowPleaseNot seven nation army.
NowPleaseNot listen to more music. itll help you know what songs are played. nobody wants to hear the basic songs played over and over. it gets boring
Bryn Auger Norman's Rare Guitars caught hell over playing some Hendrix riffs.
Bryn Auger I understand what you're saying but I heard them play something recently I can't remember what, they had the other guy from Dorje again I can't remember his name. My memory is terrible probably earlier onset alzheimer's but they did an altered version of whatever song. I think it might have been from a sounds like AC/DC and it just sounded terrible. The stuff that they played that was supposed to sound like AC/DC sounded nothing at all like they'd play. Personally I hate the same riffs they play over and over again but I can understand why they keep playing the same thing to give people a better understanding of the differences between the guitars
This is not an accurate test. Anyone can tell you that paint color has an immense impact on tone. I mean seriously, the iommi sig sounds so much brighter as all the light is being absorbed into the guitar. Not only that, but how could u guys not realize that one has a smaller pickguard than the other? The added plywood enhances the bass frequency response as their is more total wood as well as enhancing the sustain. Anyone who can't hear these differences or claims that they make no difference are clearly trolls. Pay no heed to them.
Oh dear me, how could I forget the inlays??? The dot inlays allows better spacing when playing staccato by narrowing the frequency range by lessening the highs and lows, hence the circles whereas the crosses lower the mid frequency on your amp as the arm is closer to the "bass" string on the guitar. Don't let anyone tell you anything about tone woods or pickup covers
Ooh, now that's sarcasm! lol:)
The Epiphone sounds darker, not brighter
Ronald Felei please do not use your ears when comparing tones. Materials have no affect on tone it is only the appearance of the instrument that matters.
Ian McDaid someone gets it :)
As an American, can confirm that "dear" is only how you start a letter to someone you don't know.
Also more "deer" is said than "dear" here. We just call expensive stuff "expensive."
What do you call dear stuff though?
@@chrisdee5032 People say near and dear. Some people just have small vocabularies lol.
You guys give me so much info on these two guitars. Thank you so much. I did buy the Epiphone SG Pro Limited in black. I love it show much. Thank you for love of the instrument that is the guitar. Keep up the great videos and love of guitars! Many thanks for California!
Hey, could you please do the same with an ES-335 model?
Bruxxy they made that video
When?
Bruxxy well, not they, but the other guys from de andertons TV channel
Shouldn't have picked a signature.....
skruffy79 your avatar is disturbing as fuck!
Joe Towers 😂😂😂
Captain Lee playing Metal/Black Sabbath? That's a shocker, also for some ideas how about:
- Cheapest ESP vs. Most Expensive LTD
- Most Expensive Squire Bass vs. Cheapest Fender Bass
- Most Expensive Schecter vs. Most Affordable Schecter
- Most Expensive Boss pedal vs. Cheapest MXR pedal
Also if I ever bought a Hatsune Miku pedal I bet that'd be an awesome piece of gear to use while in Japan; It sounds somewhat pointless but absolutely hilarious at the same time
There are NO CHEAP Japanese ESP's !
If you guys ever reviewed some Hagstrom guitars... Please?
No because they don't carry them, why would they review a brand they don't carry..
@@rickeyryan303 so start selling them then !
I own the Iommi SG from Epi and it's the best SG out there IMHO. I particularly like the Iommi humbuckers, the small pickguard, the 24 frets, the edge mounted output jack, the non-Pleked graphite nut, and the horn mounted strap button. The only complaint I had out of the box was the fact that the tops of the frets were rough, as if a step were missed during building. I cleaned them up myself and haven't looked back. My SG needs have been filled.
real difference is when you come to sell em ...you'll get close to your money back with the gibbo ....just for the headstock
Not sure about that. Those Epi Iommis are still making £400+ online 2nd hand & I don't think you'd get much more for the Gibson faded. The few I've seen sell so far have gone for a similar price to the Epi's so you'd lose around £100 on the Gibson.
You can find Gibson SG Faded with Gibson gig bag for UNDER £400 online second hand...
Muix eranga can confirm, just sold an SG faded, did not make anywhere close to what I payed
Sorry but this is oft repeated and just not correct. New Gibson SG Standard 2017 at GC: $1400. Used SG Standard: $700 to $800. You do NOT get your money back on used Gibbies if you bought it new more than any other guitar.
Muix eranga Okay, am I, like, the only person in existence who buys a guitar *without* the intention of selling it? Does _nobody_ else on this planet actually plan to keep a guitar when they buy it?
I honestly feel the Gibson had the better sound. The tones, sustain and look is better to me. I've owned a G400 epiphone and it's a good guitar, but it doesn't sound like a gibson.
Wow. I woulda thought those iommi pickups would have been a bit brighter considering who they're made for
Between the tommy iommi and the gibson faded there are a lot differences on the sound, but I think that if u compare the faded gibson with the epiphone G400 the sound pretty much the same
As noodling does tell a good tale of the quality of a guitar, so does rhythm playing. I would like to hear more rhythm tests.
the iommi has a much better jack location
cgsluppen yes! agreed, unless you have an angled cable then its not that bad
Just loop your cable through your strap like its a wireless receiver cable. Problem solved
No way love my face mounted Jacks
cgsluppen get a mid 70’s SG I’m pretty sure they had the Tony Iommi location, or a SG firebrand
Who is Jack Location ?
Most expensive Toothbrush vs Cheapest Pedal.
Gibson and Gibdad.. sorry
Where da Gibdaugther at?
At the Gibuncle's house
Schnitzel married to gibaunt
This would be funnier if you didn't feel the need to apologise.
sorry
16:22 that run was so clean, holy cow!
I played one of those Tony Iommis SG and think it blows away an entry Gibson SG hands down any day
I just got one yesterday. I can't wait to get some time to sit with it.
Hey Rob - Where on earth did ya get your humbucker t-shirt?
www.tostadora.co.uk/web/humbucker_-_men/964075
James Cross Under his sisters bed
Fark I love Sabbath! The moment that riff hit.
Nice :D Now how about one with Flying V? :D
Lets be honest, nobody will buy one so what's the point
well shit i got 3 ^
Thank you :)
Tyler Stanford Im SO.....sorry for your purchase
Shouldnt be, theyre brilliant. I have an epiphone brent hinds, Gibson Faded and a Jackson RR Pro. All brilliant once you get used to sitting between your legs its not too bad.
Oh man I wish I could play like Chapman. "I just wanted to see what it was like playing at the top of an sg" Praise guitar king Chapman
Please vlog more! Telling stories and stuff are always great to listen to!!
The Toni Iommi signature seems more Gibson than Epiphone with all the bells and whistles. The Toni Iommi signature pick-ups are Gibson pick-ups and they are quite different than many standard alnico sets because they are a hybrid pickup with Alnico 2's, Ceramic magnets, wax potted and sealed with epoxy, the price of those pick-ups alone drives a solid argument to get one of these Epiphone models. Therefore it would have been more interesting to go with a comparison between the Epiphone G400 pro, and the Faded Gibson SG. I believe it's a good idea to get an Epiphone SG when you're either first starting out or on a steep budget and upgrade the pick-ups to classic 57's, burst buckers, or your favorite non Gibson pick-ups like Seymore Duncan's when/if you feel dissatisfied with the Epiphone ones and want something a bit better. If you have the money to spend however you can't go wrong with Gibson SG's, I'd prefer one a bit nicer than the faded, with trapezoidal inlays and other classic features but that's just me.
I better comparison would be the Tony Iommi against, an LTD Viper 1000
Lunch time drinking? Very funny video, guys.
"We're sober" Lol, no you're not.
my 2016 SG Faded plays like a dream!!! i'll never sell it. I love the thin nitro, the wear over the years is cool and the neck just feels better and better the more you play.
I like that the guitars are balanced on different sides of the left and right. I happen to have two different sounding IEMs due to different fittings in my ear. Many others may experience the same effects even with something as simple as slightly more hearing damage on one side.
Only drunk people need to tell others they are sober.
SZCZERZO KŁY only a sith deals in absolutes
Gibson Custom Shop Zakk Wylde signature vs Epiphone Zakk Wylde signature.
And how much had you had to drink before filming this? I did learn one guitar was black and one wasn't. All good though this was proper entertaining. More like this ha ha :)
I guess you missed the "We are sober!" disclaimer?!
Likely at least two pints then
Isn’t epiphone to Gibson like squier to fender?
There is a physical difference in the way the neck is connected and how it is attached to the body! The Gibson gets amazing sustain because the neck extends further out from the body at its connection point. The Epiphone can be a little short on sustain but it has a more stable neck attachment to the body which can give you some very deep tones in the mid-range! I'm not sure if the string length is identical but the Epi's can be difficult to intonate properly!
I find it incredible that Tony lost his fingertips and still shredded, just goes to show there are no excuses if you're committed
Waiting for 'Hank Hills' comment.....
So true
Music Ghost hank hills.
Every time I see one of these old Faded models I look at my 2019 SG and hate it.
I feel that. I've got a ~07 G-400 in ebony and it's... I love it, but it's kinda bland.
Notwithstanding the dill and sausage detour, I enjoyed the video. I own a Faded SG very similar to the one used, and I was happy to see it tested in this way. 7 seconds of sustain on the Gibson versus 3.5 seconds on the Epiphone was the most telling moment for me. The extended comparison on the D chord was also interesting -- clearly, the pickups on the Gibson were brighter and had more chime than those on the Epiphone (although both had Gibson pickups). One problem I have with my Faded SG, which I don't with my SG Standard, is significant neck dive. It would have been useful, I think, to have considered that issue when comparing the 2 guitars in this video. Nice video, though. I always enjoy them, even with the dill and sausage.
The man/woman that does the editing on these movies is a pure genious :)