Useful video, thank you. I’m a fellow West Midlander and I’m learning what we can get away with and which palms are best left alone! My butia odorata made it through winter but I covered the crown with an open umbrella and then covered the whole thing with fleece. That seemed to do the trick, although I do have some brown tips coming through now. My chaemerops is coming back from a previous spear pull and I’m giving a trachy/princeps hybrid a go now. Tracy fortuneis and waggies are my faves with them being a lot less fussy! The garden is looking good, keep it up!
Great to hear you managed to get most of yours through! It seems like in the midlands they often come through with brown tips. The trachys seem to be the best option where we are from a hardiness perspective- the princeps give a nice bit of variation over the standard don’t they!?
@@TropicalGardenUK they do indeed! Experimentation with tropical style planting can be an expensive game. I’m sticking to the hardy stuff at the moment. I totally understood you when you said you may not bother with another butia. Warmer weather coming through. Enjoy!
Những cây có của bạn đã bị chết ,có vẻ chúng không hợp trồng trong chậu ,đất trồng chậu sẽ bị nóng khi trời nắng cảm ơn bạn đã chia sẻ kinh nghiệm trồng trọt với mọi người 🤝.
micro climate plays a huge rule on it I bet various types of palms can actually naturalise near the south coast of England on south facing slopes and sheltered corners
Hugely so! Always a difficult one trying to grow palms in the UK if you’re not down there. I’ve planted the main two in raised borders which are south facing so hopefully giving them some chance in my location. Think I’m going to have to properly protect them this winter though!
You're always going to be pushing your luck with these outside over winter, especially if they're in pots and even more so if they're small palms in small pots - something as simple as a cover from a sheet of greenhouse plastic on 4 stakes to stick the pots underneath makes a big difference. For palms in big tubs & raised beds: I don't like ramming stakes through the roots so when repotting or planting out cut some lengths of scaffold pole, put a plastic caps on the ends and bury them with the tops showing. Come winter, uncap the tops, slide wooden stakes in and fix a sheet of greenhouse plastic to the stakes. Yes you'll probably need bricks to stop it blowing away and probably guyropes to stop containers being blown over and yes it's not visually very attractive but it's all part of the fun of keeping them alive.
Definitely! Especially in our climate! Shame there aren’t more really hardy ones we can grow! Good shout on the covering. I think I’m going to leave the trachys to do their thing this winter. For the brahea in the pot I’ll pull it undercover once I get the pergola built. I think I’m going to put the stakes in the ground on the outside of the metal circular planters which shouldn’t disturb the roots and maybe go for the polycarbonate sheeting. Perhaps put some covers around the trunks and take it off on the warmer days to help with the airflow.
Those raised steel ring planters look suspect to me. On the last video it looked logged. How are they fastened together is it joined all the way round or is there a gap? Like is it welded shut at the join? If there's no gaps i can't see how it would drain any better than the ground. In fact id say it could be worse. Raised sleeper need have gaps where water escapes wereas that it looks like the water can only go down into the ground. Then when its getting really logged it freezes easily as its raised up way more than it needs to be. Id dig into now and see how wet it is because the butyagrus won't stand a chance if its set up the way i think it is
Hi mate, appreciate the info. They have no bottom so being raised up a meter you would assume it would drain better than being ground level? They’re welded all the way round but that could be a good idea on drilling some holes around the side to help the water escape. I’ll have another dig and see how it’s doing. I tested it with the hose pipe after adding more grit and seemed to drain well but will check again.
@TropicalGardenUK if its sealed all the way round it can only go down into the ground and drain as fast as the ground below it id imagine wich would be slow in a wet winter. Then you'd be more exposed to freezing right through as the roots aren't protected under ground. If you drilled holes in near the bottom for excess water to escape it would be better but still if they keep failing in there it must say something. Those brown leaves dont look like frost burn to me but an issue with roots. Try one in a sleeper raised bed just 6inches high. Just enough so thats its not on the wet ground. Roots are still protected underground and the small raised area can drain faster and dry quicker than the ground. Those big raised rings are like huge pots sat embedded in grass where the drainage holes are semi blocked. No good in my opinion. Raised sleepers with gaps. Raised rockery etc is the way to go
@@PalmGeezer really good info mate. I’m a bit dubious on digging them out as don’t want to disturb them too much again 😂 I am going to be changing my other planter at some point but will probably chuck a video out and get some more opinions. I think if they do stay in there this year I’m going to build an overhead shelter to keep the butyagrus and brahea in the rings dry - try and get all the water off them and into the surrounding ground.
Thanks Julian! I managed to get most of them in pots when I bought the palms which was helpful. I normally find most mine on FB marketplace. I think you can get those type of planters on eBay also.
Ive only had it since December, got it off some guy in coventry he only had it since last year too. Its a decent size, barely moving this year though its on its 3rd frond😅
@@adbates24 nice at least it got through this wet winter though! Are they pretty slow growers normally? I haven’t bothered with any phoenix as of yet due to our location and the mixed reports on hardiness
Hi there mate, im in Hull and had a butia odorata that sailed through the first winter, made me over confident so i didn't bother to protect, got a colder winter and it perished. Spear pulled and the hydrogen peroxide didn't help either. Might give it another go but i have to say these are expensive lessons
Hi mate, shame to hear that! I think I’m just going to protect the ones that aren’t Trachys every year now! What other palms are you growing at the minute?
Hi im also growing trachy's as well as chamaerops humilis and vulcano. They sail through the winter without protection. Also tried a washingtonia robusta but that pershed during a mild winter with protection so won't waste my money on any more of those
@@ellerby83 solid plants aren’t they! Shame about the washy! I’m really keen on getting one at some point but holding fire at the moment too for that reason. Don’t know whether to try one in a pot and pull it under cover for the winter.
@@ellerby83haha cheers haven’t quite bit the bullet and got one yet. Seen a really nice one a bit further east over Lincoln way when I went to pick up the palm and it looked great.
I found palm trees hate growing in pots ,they get to wet in winter and cantotally freeze through when it's cold and when it's hot they dry out to much 😑 since I planted all mine in the ground I have had no problems 😊 and just cover them in place in winter
Definitely more challenging growing them in pots - a bit more effort required isn’t it! I’ve just picked up a small trachy nanus princeps and put it straight into the ground to give it the best chance. Hopefully we have a half decent summer to help it settle in!
Useful video, thank you. I’m a fellow West Midlander and I’m learning what we can get away with and which palms are best left alone! My butia odorata made it through winter but I covered the crown with an open umbrella and then covered the whole thing with fleece. That seemed to do the trick, although I do have some brown tips coming through now. My chaemerops is coming back from a previous spear pull and I’m giving a trachy/princeps hybrid a go now. Tracy fortuneis and waggies are my faves with them being a lot less fussy! The garden is looking good, keep it up!
Great to hear you managed to get most of yours through! It seems like in the midlands they often come through with brown tips. The trachys seem to be the best option where we are from a hardiness perspective- the princeps give a nice bit of variation over the standard don’t they!?
@@TropicalGardenUK they do indeed! Experimentation with tropical style planting can be an expensive game. I’m sticking to the hardy stuff at the moment. I totally understood you when you said you may not bother with another butia. Warmer weather coming through. Enjoy!
@@tropiclaud it certainly can! Haha I’m sure if one comes up at a good price I’ll probably pick one up 😂😂 sometimes can’t help myself
@@TropicalGardenUK 😂😂 I GET IT. That was me with cordylines. Lol. All gets forgiven far too quickly. Lovely sharing with you. Have a lovely Sunday.
@@tropiclaud thank you! Likewise - been watching your videos also - keep it up 👍👍
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Great video very informative
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Great vid, very informative
Thank you mate appreciate it 👍
micro climate plays a huge rule on it I bet various types of palms can actually naturalise near the south coast of England on south facing slopes and sheltered corners
Hugely so! Always a difficult one trying to grow palms in the UK if you’re not down there. I’ve planted the main two in raised borders which are south facing so hopefully giving them some chance in my location. Think I’m going to have to properly protect them this winter though!
You're always going to be pushing your luck with these outside over winter, especially if they're in pots and even more so if they're small palms in small pots - something as simple as a cover from a sheet of greenhouse plastic on 4 stakes to stick the pots underneath makes a big difference. For palms in big tubs & raised beds: I don't like ramming stakes through the roots so when repotting or planting out cut some lengths of scaffold pole, put a plastic caps on the ends and bury them with the tops showing. Come winter, uncap the tops, slide wooden stakes in and fix a sheet of greenhouse plastic to the stakes. Yes you'll probably need bricks to stop it blowing away and probably guyropes to stop containers being blown over and yes it's not visually very attractive but it's all part of the fun of keeping them alive.
Definitely! Especially in our climate! Shame there aren’t more really hardy ones we can grow! Good shout on the covering. I think I’m going to leave the trachys to do their thing this winter. For the brahea in the pot I’ll pull it undercover once I get the pergola built.
I think I’m going to put the stakes in the ground on the outside of the metal circular planters which shouldn’t disturb the roots and maybe go for the polycarbonate sheeting. Perhaps put some covers around the trunks and take it off on the warmer days to help with the airflow.
Those raised steel ring planters look suspect to me. On the last video it looked logged. How are they fastened together is it joined all the way round or is there a gap? Like is it welded shut at the join? If there's no gaps i can't see how it would drain any better than the ground. In fact id say it could be worse. Raised sleeper need have gaps where water escapes wereas that it looks like the water can only go down into the ground. Then when its getting really logged it freezes easily as its raised up way more than it needs to be. Id dig into now and see how wet it is because the butyagrus won't stand a chance if its set up the way i think it is
Hi mate, appreciate the info. They have no bottom so being raised up a meter you would assume it would drain better than being ground level? They’re welded all the way round but that could be a good idea on drilling some holes around the side to help the water escape. I’ll have another dig and see how it’s doing.
I tested it with the hose pipe after adding more grit and seemed to drain well but will check again.
@TropicalGardenUK if its sealed all the way round it can only go down into the ground and drain as fast as the ground below it id imagine wich would be slow in a wet winter. Then you'd be more exposed to freezing right through as the roots aren't protected under ground. If you drilled holes in near the bottom for excess water to escape it would be better but still if they keep failing in there it must say something. Those brown leaves dont look like frost burn to me but an issue with roots. Try one in a sleeper raised bed just 6inches high. Just enough so thats its not on the wet ground. Roots are still protected underground and the small raised area can drain faster and dry quicker than the ground. Those big raised rings are like huge pots sat embedded in grass where the drainage holes are semi blocked. No good in my opinion. Raised sleepers with gaps. Raised rockery etc is the way to go
@@PalmGeezer really good info mate. I’m a bit dubious on digging them out as don’t want to disturb them too much again 😂 I am going to be changing my other planter at some point but will probably chuck a video out and get some more opinions. I think if they do stay in there this year I’m going to build an overhead shelter to keep the butyagrus and brahea in the rings dry - try and get all the water off them and into the surrounding ground.
great content buddy..can i ask you where you get your planters from with the handles on..All the best..Julian
Thanks Julian! I managed to get most of them in pots when I bought the palms which was helpful. I normally find most mine on FB marketplace. I think you can get those type of planters on eBay also.
Fellow midlander here aswel, i have a large phoenix theophastri in a huge 230l pot so it concerns me that your odorata and butia have barely made it!
I bet that’s a decent size if it’s in a 230 pot! How long have you had it?
Ive only had it since December, got it off some guy in coventry he only had it since last year too. Its a decent size, barely moving this year though its on its 3rd frond😅
@@adbates24 nice at least it got through this wet winter though! Are they pretty slow growers normally? I haven’t bothered with any phoenix as of yet due to our location and the mixed reports on hardiness
Hi there mate, im in Hull and had a butia odorata that sailed through the first winter, made me over confident so i didn't bother to protect, got a colder winter and it perished. Spear pulled and the hydrogen peroxide didn't help either. Might give it another go but i have to say these are expensive lessons
Hi mate, shame to hear that! I think I’m just going to protect the ones that aren’t Trachys every year now! What other palms are you growing at the minute?
Hi im also growing trachy's as well as chamaerops humilis and vulcano. They sail through the winter without protection. Also tried a washingtonia robusta but that pershed during a mild winter with protection so won't waste my money on any more of those
@@ellerby83 solid plants aren’t they! Shame about the washy! I’m really keen on getting one at some point but holding fire at the moment too for that reason. Don’t know whether to try one in a pot and pull it under cover for the winter.
@@TropicalGardenUK that's what I did and still lost it, was a small one though to be fair. Bigger one might be more hardy, good luck anyway lol 👍
@@ellerby83haha cheers haven’t quite bit the bullet and got one yet. Seen a really nice one a bit further east over Lincoln way when I went to pick up the palm and it looked great.
I found palm trees hate growing in pots ,they get to wet in winter and cantotally freeze through when it's cold and when it's hot they dry out to much 😑 since I planted all mine in the ground I have had no problems 😊 and just cover them in place in winter
Definitely more challenging growing them in pots - a bit more effort required isn’t it! I’ve just picked up a small trachy nanus princeps and put it straight into the ground to give it the best chance. Hopefully we have a half decent summer to help it settle in!
Really useful video - hope the brahea pulls through!
I hope so too!
Informative
Thank you 👍👍