Also when Catherine started drinking again, the ghosts of the 2 Philips, her dead husband and the younger one appeared to her,. They told her to stop drinking.
I do not even care that he's gay, what I care about is the bad acting going on. I mean, wtf was that? He said it like it was no big deal, almost cracked a smile and left the scene leaving her hanging.
Although Nina was a main character when I started watching. I believe that Ryan was seeing her and Victor at the same time when I started watching. I always thought Nina was a flake. She was wishy washy to me.
He reminds me of Luke Snyder from ATWT. Luke was drinking too when he had a problem trying to tell everyone that he was gay, like Phillip said, it was a symptom. Sometimes I think it would be good if Luke and Noah Mayor(Luke's lover) made a guest appearance on Y&R while doing one of their film projects and talk to Phillip. After all Amber is friends with Alison Stewart(another ATWT character).
I was in my late teens when Phillip and Nina were part of the main storyline. Y&R has done another remarkable and yet terrible job of rewriting the past. I mean if Colonel Douglas Austin was in the closet that might be more believable. Ever since my father passed away in 1989, I resent how Y&R toys around with people faking their own death. There are people watching the show that are dealing with the grief of losing a loved one. One message that should always be clear is that death is final, at least in the reality that we live in. By the way, Nina should have married Chase.
@@T3XACAN0 In 1988 Chase Benson was hired by Katherine Chancellor and Jill Foster Abbott to get Nina Webster out of Phillip Chancellor III's life. He started out as a sexy pool boy. Then later he worked at Jabot Cosmetics. Nina almost left Phillip for Chase on their wedding day over 30 years ago. th-cam.com/video/oQ7Pj0YO_9Uv/w-d-xo.html=oQ7Pj0YO_9U
@@T3XACAN0 In the year 2022 a lot of people get Chase and Chance mixed up! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Young_and_the_Restless_characters_(1980s)#Chase_Benson
He shouldn't have left her there he should have asked her "are you okay?" At least I don't mind him being gay but he should have at least like calmed her down
I stopped way before that and never understood why they killed off Philip. Now I'm escaping election anxiety catching up on decades of storylines. What a treat.
Gay people have done that, especially when they are trying to identify or come to terms with their sexuality. He was a teenager back then. There are lesbians who have given birth to children. It's the same thing.
It was a massive triangle in soap opera tradition. Philip loved Christine but he got Nina pregnant....he did indeed do the right thing and marry Nina..... wow Thom and Trish aged pretty well.
Umm...did he not die from the drinking & driving car accident that turned into a big storyline and Nina even had to take a moment to interrupt a Danny Romalotti concert to yell at the concert goers?? 😂
Greg Rikaart(Kevin) is gay in real-life but he's able to handle playing a straight character. There were thoughts of doing a storyline where Kevin turns out to be gay but I think they've axed that idea as Kevin has shown so much stuff going on to indicate that Kevin is straight. Greg seems to be able to handle playing a straight character because he knows it's just acting/pretending.
Thom Bierdz(Phillip III) knew that he was gay back in 1989 when he left the show but he was afraid to tell the cast and crew because he was worried that they wouldn't accept him. He came out of the closet a few years later after leaving. When they asked him to come back saying that they had an idea for Phillip III to be gay, he was happy to return. Since Phillip III has been revealed to be gay, he feels more comfortable on the set.
Alexander Edward Pytko , that wad a terrible story. They should have just left him dead. Just because he's gay in real life doesn't mean that they had to make his character gay. I liked him and Nina together. They ruined their story.
If this had been The UK, it would have been no big deal. UK Soaps are very Gay Friendly most notably Coronation Street and Hollyoaks. Alot of UK Boy Bands also have had a Closeted Member. In The US it was Lance Bass (N'Sync) but in The UK there was a Man named Duncan James who was in a Group called Blue (similar to 98 Degrees & Color Me Bad). The UK Press "Outed" him and he later played a Closeted Cop named Ryan Knight on Hollyoaks. Some of them play "Gay For Pay" like Stirling Gallacher who plays Paula Martin on Coronation Street and will do double duty as Ffion on another Soap Opera Casualty. Before he was Fired on The Young & The Restless, Mal Young worked on a Soap Opera called Brookside that had the First Same Sex Kiss between a Woman named Beth and her Friend Margaret. Yet the First Same Sex Kiss took place in 1974 with a Teleplay called "Girl".
@@msrain1235 You know, Christian LeBlanc(Michael) and Greg Rikaart(Kevin) are both gay in real-life but they didn't make their characters gay. They're currently making it seem like Mariah is a lesbian or bisexual but her portrayer, Camryn Grimes has confirmed that she is straight in real-life.
@@alexanderpytko5394 I heard she came out as Bisexual. In The UK Dolly Rose Campbell who plays Gemini "Gemma" Winter on Coronation Street came out as Bisexual as well.
You know what's so sad. He's Gay on The Show, he's Gay in Real Life (Not that there's anything wrong with that). Then he has to deal with one Brother Killing himself then the other Brother who killed their Mother who is doing life who is Schizophrenic. Then Brenda Dickson gets fired, blacklisted, did time in prison, had a nasty divorce and was homeless. Heartbreaking.
@vegas787 Thom pops up on Y&R every once in awhile when the storyline dictates it. Sadly, the show never explored his sexuality when he's on. Phillip was a major part of the Young and Restless history. Back in the early years when Jill was a teenager, she got pregnant with him by Katherine's husband. Jill and Kay had been fighting over Phillip ever since. His being Gay added an entire new dimension to the show. Y&R got a lot of positive recognition because of it.
That's cool...I just wanted to point out that in your response, you didn't say that you felt badly for both of them...and that's a common thing that happens, particularly in relationships where one comes out as a gay person. hope you understand.
Nina was a Golddigger back in the day who stole her Best Friend's Boyfriend. She never had a proper relationship with a Man who "truly" loved her. Even when she was married to Ryan McNeil, she had to deal with the fact that Ryan "cared" about her but he "loved" Victoria.
I mean kudos Thom still looks great and is maybe a better actor now. It was great to have him back but he seemed pretty straight with Christine and Nina around 1987. I remember that's when I started watching in College. He straight up competed with Danny for Christine's attention. I do remember Nina seduced him when he was drunk and that's where they got Chance....but I just don't buy he's homo. Bi maybe. This brings back memories. I'm not gonna lie I love it when actors have been with...or return to soaps years later. Young and the Restless and DAYS in particular really "get" that.
Worst male actor in history of Y&R other than Wings Hauser. He’s gay in real life and had zero chemistry with any on screen female partner so why is his being gay far fetched? It’s spot on.
This is the best damn soap opera that ever was The Young and the Restless rest in peace Jeanne Cooper Miss Chancellor I love you always and y'all you know we love Jill to and Esther and all of the rest❤ of rest in peace Kristoff st. John AKA Neil Winters what in the world went wrong and I got to throw this in there too which doesn't have anything to do with it rest in peace Kobe Bryant love you always but back to the matter at hand The Young and the Restless As the World Turns Guiding Light Another World Dallas Knots Landing Falcon Crest Days of Our Lives number one Stunna Days of Our Lives and nothing to do with this but the Dukes of Hazzard I love that show forever but y&r is the best hour before the first best hour The Price is Right and Young and the Restless back-to-back is absolutely priceless from now and now on you know we think it's always going to be with us like Kmart LMAO don't y'all miss them and RadioShack👌 and oh yes Sears I can remember back in the day when they used to display the TVs playing at Sears and Young and the Restless would be on🤣👏 yep just chatting but we all have to go on and try to protect our families as best as we can during this Coronavirus this is awful everybody stay prayed up watch the best shows eat your favorite food and relax and try to enjoy yourself God bless each and everyone of you reading this🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤
The comeback of Phillip III doesnt make any sence! A few years ago, Phillip along with Rex and a few others that have died "came back" to talk to Kathrine in a dream from the afterlife.. So how is it that Phillip could still be alive? Will Phillip then try to get back his millions from Nina, and does that then mean that Nina never had a true inheratance after his "death?"
Has everyone forgotten this is a soap opera? If you don't like the storyline, stop watching it. Good gosh, look at all the adultery on this thing if you want to be judgmental about these CHARACTERS. There are murderers, rapists, and just plain old psychos on there.
What Nina is going through????? So, society tells a man that he is wrong if he is gay, and so he hides it...for years...like so many do, and yet...all we need to worry about is what Nina is going thru??? Can you for a moment imagine what it's like to be in his shoes? No support, blaming him for having to keep such a huge secret! This is a great story line and maybe people will start thinking a little more compassionately.
But keeping his secret made him a liar, all the feelings she thought they shared were a facade to hide his true self, and he used her to prop it up. Nobody deserves to be the center of a lie and not be aware of the truth.
We all remember what Nina went through next. 2 words...David Kimble. Forget being a young mom who is rich and widow. David Kimble plan was to kill her and when she turned the tables on him she was "thisclose" to going to prison. So being gay is one thing, but being a single woman with a young child facing attempted murder is whole different type of pain.
“I’m gay but instead of coming out, I’m going to fake my death for 20-plus years.” 😂
Faking their deaths is a phase a lot of closeted gay men have to go through and I'm glad this show was brave enough to tackle it.
This entire return of Philip was absurd from the start. He died in a car accident. We all watched that.
I know
Also when Catherine started drinking again, the ghosts of the 2 Philips, her dead husband and the younger one appeared to her,. They told her to stop drinking.
@@kimkelly7
The visits were imagined by Katherines own conscience
He Was A Multi-Millionaire,and Faked It All,His Crash His Death,Paying Ppl Off to go along with it etc 😂
I am not surprised Phillip is gay. His mother loved men too!
Ohh she yearned for them lol
@@danilang3504 His mother preferred rich men.
Lot of actors are Gay
So it IS genetic!
I do not even care that he's gay, what I care about is the bad acting going on. I mean, wtf was that? He said it like it was no big deal, almost cracked a smile and left the scene leaving her hanging.
That's how the character always was... closed off an guarded.
I miss Tricia Cast as Nina. I wish they would bring her back. Great character.
Me too! She would put Phyllis in her place. Also, her son Chance is in town. They'll eventually bring her back temporarily :)
Although Nina was a main character when I started watching. I believe that Ryan was seeing her and Victor at the same time when I started watching. I always thought Nina was a flake. She was wishy washy to me.
Never liked her character
@@almcLuv Haha your wish came true. She came back temporarily :D
she is back.
He still does not look too bad after all these years. You can see that he has aged but not too much. I remember the storyline back in the 80s.
I thought he was gonna come out as gay in the 80s.
Preferred the old style music at pivotal moments like the "I'm gay" announcement...trilling organ chords etc, much more effective and dramatic.
You don't make that kind of announcement and then just walk away
Right! lol
Hes gay in real life
NOT, the point the original poster made. @@ManuelGuzman067
Actually, speaking from experience, you can make that announcement and walk away. I did.
There's also no support groups called "Hey, My Husband Faked his Death for 20 Years and Is Back". All though, there's a good market for them on soaps.
Lol!
To be gay - okay.
To look disheveled - not okay.
That statement crushed Nina,so bad🙂
psychotropic7 Nope
It must be so difficult going through life with a mouthful of marbles...
or being a judgmental prick...
Truth be told... this show is set in Wisconsin... he's the only one with an accurate accent.
He reminds me of Luke Snyder from ATWT. Luke was drinking too when he had a problem trying to tell everyone that he was gay, like Phillip said, it was a symptom. Sometimes I think it would be good if Luke and Noah Mayor(Luke's lover) made a guest appearance on Y&R while doing one of their film projects and talk to Phillip. After all Amber is friends with Alison Stewart(another ATWT character).
It turned out Katherine seeing Phillip III's ghost was only a figment of her imagination.
No it was Phillip using a machine to make it look like a ghost in her room
Nina reaction is pure gold !!!
I was in my late teens when Phillip and Nina were part of the main storyline. Y&R has done another remarkable and yet terrible job of rewriting the past. I mean if Colonel Douglas Austin was in the closet that might be more believable. Ever since my father passed away in 1989, I resent how Y&R toys around with people faking their own death. There are people watching the show that are dealing with the grief of losing a loved one. One message that should always be clear is that death is final, at least in the reality that we live in. By the way, Nina should have married Chase.
Who is Chase?
@@T3XACAN0 In 1988 Chase Benson was hired by Katherine Chancellor and Jill Foster Abbott to get Nina Webster out of Phillip Chancellor III's life. He started out as a sexy pool boy. Then later he worked at Jabot Cosmetics. Nina almost left Phillip for Chase on their wedding day over 30 years ago. th-cam.com/video/oQ7Pj0YO_9Uv/w-d-xo.html=oQ7Pj0YO_9U
@@T3XACAN0 In the year 2022 a lot of people get Chase and Chance mixed up! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Young_and_the_Restless_characters_(1980s)#Chase_Benson
I mean...it's not farfetched 🤣🤭 I remember when I saw this I died laughing
THIS WAS RIDICULOUS
He shouldn't have left her there he should have asked her "are you okay?" At least I don't mind him being gay but he should have at least like calmed her down
Nina was a knockout when she was Julie ( it's your move) I was 15 back then.
Omg I never saw this.I stopped watching y&r in about ,,the mid 90s.
Yup. The whole storyline of Phillip coming back from the dead was a cool one.
I stopped way before that and never understood why they killed off Philip. Now I'm escaping election anxiety catching up on decades of storylines. What a treat.
He was dating Cricket and he married Nina yet he's gay!.
Gay people have done that, especially when they are trying to identify or come to terms with their sexuality. He was a teenager back then. There are lesbians who have given birth to children. It's the same thing.
It was a massive triangle in soap opera tradition. Philip loved Christine but he got Nina pregnant....he did indeed do the right thing and marry Nina..... wow Thom and Trish aged pretty well.
Lot of closet Gays Geez 😁
Poor boy,The PRESSURE Drove him to be straight,even fathering a child
Umm...did he not die from the drinking & driving car accident that turned into a big storyline and Nina even had to take a moment to interrupt a Danny Romalotti concert to yell at the concert goers?? 😂
I Love It,Was So Glad Phillip 3 Was Brought Back Gay,Great Storyline ! 👏👏
Crikey! How cool is that?!?!?
I love tricia cast !!!!🤗
It’s sad when gay people feel ashamed and punish themselves for who they are😢Love you Philip!
Greg Rikaart(Kevin) is gay in real-life but he's able to handle playing a straight character. There were thoughts of doing a storyline where Kevin turns out to be gay but I think they've axed that idea as Kevin has shown so much stuff going on to indicate that Kevin is straight. Greg seems to be able to handle playing a straight character because he knows it's just acting/pretending.
Michael Pantyhose I agree. He is very gifted. With his acting, you'd never even expect that he's gay.
Agreed, Michael is too!
Jessieebearxo Reid Christian LeBlanc? Yeah, I figured he might be as he's never been married.
Alexander Edward Pytko Exactly! He does his acting profection😊 i like him.
Kevin's quirkiness is because the actor is gay in real life. He's not a convincing straight man
Nina just left the show out of no where like what happened
Well, she came back a few times, she was there for Kathrine's funeral and the Memorial one year later
Thom Bierdz(Phillip III) knew that he was gay back in 1989 when he left the show but he was afraid to tell the cast and crew because he was worried that they wouldn't accept him. He came out of the closet a few years later after leaving. When they asked him to come back saying that they had an idea for Phillip III to be gay, he was happy to return. Since Phillip III has been revealed to be gay, he feels more comfortable on the set.
Alexander Edward Pytko , that wad a terrible story. They should have just left him dead. Just because he's gay in real life doesn't mean that they had to make his character gay. I liked him and Nina together. They ruined their story.
If this had been The UK, it would have been no big deal. UK Soaps are very Gay Friendly most notably Coronation Street and Hollyoaks. Alot of UK Boy Bands also have had a Closeted Member. In The US it was Lance Bass (N'Sync) but in The UK there was a Man named Duncan James who was in a Group called Blue (similar to 98 Degrees & Color Me Bad). The UK Press "Outed" him and he later played a Closeted Cop named Ryan Knight on Hollyoaks. Some of them play "Gay For Pay" like Stirling Gallacher who plays Paula Martin on Coronation Street and will do double duty as Ffion on another Soap Opera Casualty. Before he was Fired on The Young & The Restless, Mal Young worked on a Soap Opera called Brookside that had the First Same Sex Kiss between a Woman named Beth and her Friend Margaret. Yet the First Same Sex Kiss took place in 1974 with a Teleplay called "Girl".
@@msrain1235 You know, Christian LeBlanc(Michael) and Greg Rikaart(Kevin) are both gay in real-life but they didn't make their characters gay. They're currently making it seem like Mariah is a lesbian or bisexual but her portrayer, Camryn Grimes has confirmed that she is straight in real-life.
@@alexanderpytko5394 I heard she came out as Bisexual. In The UK Dolly Rose Campbell who plays Gemini "Gemma" Winter on Coronation Street came out as Bisexual as well.
@@laminage I heard that, too. She currently has a boyfriend.
You know what's so sad. He's Gay on The Show, he's Gay in Real Life (Not that there's anything wrong with that). Then he has to deal with one Brother Killing himself then the other Brother who killed their Mother who is doing life who is Schizophrenic. Then Brenda Dickson gets fired, blacklisted, did time in prison, had a nasty divorce and was homeless. Heartbreaking.
He creeped me out in the 80s and he creeps me out now.
lol...the story behind him though, is even more creepy. I feel for him
marshdell lol me too
@@MrDrkNoir drop the tea
@@heathermonroe1366 - Read his book. Long story .
Christian Leblanc is also gay as is Greg Rijkart. Neither of those facts were at all shocking to most people.
It was shocking to me.
@vegas787 Thom pops up on Y&R every once in awhile when the storyline dictates it. Sadly, the show never explored his sexuality when he's on. Phillip was a major part of the Young and Restless history. Back in the early years when Jill was a teenager, she got pregnant with him by Katherine's husband. Jill and Kay had been fighting over Phillip ever since. His being Gay added an entire new dimension to the show. Y&R got a lot of positive recognition because of it.
Is he wearing a wig here? I think so! He's also acting drunk or doped up.
That's cool...I just wanted to point out that in your response, you didn't say that you felt badly for both of them...and that's a common thing that happens, particularly in relationships where one comes out as a gay person. hope you understand.
He and Nina were a great couple. I love Thom.
Nina was a Golddigger back in the day who stole her Best Friend's Boyfriend. She never had a proper relationship with a Man who "truly" loved her. Even when she was married to Ryan McNeil, she had to deal with the fact that Ryan "cared" about her but he "loved" Victoria.
@@laminage He eventually did grow to love her though.
I miss Thom on Y and R so much.
Wasn't he the father of Chance?.
Yes, he is .
He's gay in real life so I Micheal and his bro isn't that nice😀
Yes both onscreen brothers Kevin and Michael have husbands in real life they both came out at different timrs.
Peter Porter who played Paul William son, Ricky, is gay in real life.
@@T3XACAN0 - And now he is on “Days of Our Lives”, with Greg Rikaart (“ Leo Stark”) .
He plays “Dimitri” .
Didnt we see him die on camera?
This was a horrible story line they ruined this so bad
Holy shit my life is a soap opera... wtf. This type of admission only makes the person who says their secret feel better.
He was soooo in love with Crixket though. Not buying that he’s always been gay.
I mean kudos Thom still looks great and is maybe a better actor now. It was great to have him back but he seemed pretty straight with Christine and Nina around 1987. I remember that's when I started watching in College. He straight up competed with Danny for Christine's attention. I do remember Nina seduced him when he was drunk and that's where they got Chance....but I just don't buy he's homo. Bi maybe. This brings back memories. I'm not gonna lie I love it when actors have been with...or return to soaps years later. Young and the Restless and DAYS in particular really "get" that.
I thought he died??
Yes, everyone did !!
Looking at him now, Fen dose kind of look like him but of crouse thier first cousins so them looking alike kind of make since.
Worst male actor in history of Y&R other than Wings Hauser. He’s gay in real life and had zero chemistry with any on screen female partner so why is his being gay far fetched? It’s spot on.
It's far fetched because he has no chemistry with ANYONE , male or female, the plight of being a bad actor
This is the best damn soap opera that ever was The Young and the Restless rest in peace Jeanne Cooper Miss Chancellor I love you always and y'all you know we love Jill to and Esther and all of the rest❤ of rest in peace Kristoff st. John AKA Neil Winters what in the world went wrong and I got to throw this in there too which doesn't have anything to do with it rest in peace Kobe Bryant love you always but back to the matter at hand The Young and the Restless As the World Turns Guiding Light Another World Dallas Knots Landing Falcon Crest Days of Our Lives number one Stunna Days of Our Lives and nothing to do with this but the Dukes of Hazzard I love that show forever but y&r is the best hour before the first best hour The Price is Right and Young and the Restless back-to-back is absolutely priceless from now and now on you know we think it's always going to be with us like Kmart LMAO don't y'all miss them and RadioShack👌 and oh yes Sears I can remember back in the day when they used to display the TVs playing at Sears and Young and the Restless would be on🤣👏 yep just chatting but we all have to go on and try to protect our families as best as we can during this Coronavirus this is awful everybody stay prayed up watch the best shows eat your favorite food and relax and try to enjoy yourself God bless each and everyone of you reading this🙏🙏🙏❤❤❤❤❤
I liked Phillip returning and the twist that he is gay, but the whole thing with Cane pretending to be the real Phillip was idiotic.
The comeback of Phillip III doesnt make any sence! A few years ago, Phillip along with Rex and a few others that have died "came back" to talk to Kathrine in a dream from the afterlife.. So how is it that Phillip could still be alive?
Will Phillip then try to get back his millions from Nina, and does that then mean that Nina never had a true inheratance after his "death?"
It was just a dream
@@xdarkbrianx the writers of the show turned it into a dream but I remember the episode and it definitely was not :)
@musluvinla We have to worry about what both are going through!
Has everyone forgotten this is a soap opera? If you don't like the storyline, stop watching it. Good gosh, look at all the adultery on this thing if you want to be judgmental about these CHARACTERS. There are murderers, rapists, and just plain old psychos on there.
Stephenie Lewis i stopped watching soaps
this is like what is acually happening in this world.
get a life bitch
i love the mariah and tess storyline.
close your mouth, Nina.......lol
What Nina is going through????? So, society tells a man that he is wrong if he is gay, and so he hides it...for years...like so many do, and yet...all we need to worry about is what Nina is going thru??? Can you for a moment imagine what it's like to be in his shoes? No support, blaming him for having to keep such a huge secret! This is a great story line and maybe people will start thinking a little more compassionately.
But keeping his secret made him a liar, all the feelings she thought they shared were a facade to hide his true self, and he used her to prop it up. Nobody deserves to be the center of a lie and not be aware of the truth.
We all remember what Nina went through next. 2 words...David Kimble. Forget being a young mom who is rich and widow. David Kimble plan was to kill her and when she turned the tables on him she was "thisclose" to going to prison. So being gay is one thing, but being a single woman with a young child facing attempted murder is whole different type of pain.
This was so stupid. I've been gone for 20 years because I'm gay! Ugh!