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  • @marcgregoryneville
    @marcgregoryneville 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    MacAlpine - Maximum Security

    • @riffmondo9733
      @riffmondo9733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Great record.

    • @GrantTregellas
      @GrantTregellas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah. That HAS to be on the list

    • @Composer19691
      @Composer19691 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Definitely top 10

    • @MrMaynardWR
      @MrMaynardWR 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      great pianist as well

    • @SimonHosford
      @SimonHosford หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes.. but Edge Of Insanity was the big one for me :)

  • @tristanwatson8882
    @tristanwatson8882 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    what a lovely way to celebrate the memory of your brother in law. Many of us growing up in the 80s started our serious study of guitar after being inspired by the 80s shredders.

  • @syn707
    @syn707 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I am at the age I can remember Mike Varney having a column in Guitar Player magazine introducing and showcasing shredders.

  • @DanielMcGrath1969
    @DanielMcGrath1969 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    It really began with Uli Jon Roth. My favorite.

  • @GordonHeaney
    @GordonHeaney 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I see the "it all started with..." comments have started early. So my contribution is that it all started with Paganini. Before him, Alexander the Great, And before him, Arg the shredding caveman.

    • @pencilpauli9442
      @pencilpauli9442 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was very much indebted to Grunf the Australopithecus afarensis

    • @thomasturner8064
      @thomasturner8064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Orpheus, the original shredder on the lyre, jamming with Pan on the pipes.

    • @pencilpauli9442
      @pencilpauli9442 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thomasturner8064
      Wonder if the lyre was originally a cheese cutter 🤔🤔

  • @markdavies2115
    @markdavies2115 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Akira Takasaki ultimate 80's guitar god.

  • @mattdowie92
    @mattdowie92 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is a lovely tribute to your brother-in-law. I was a big fan of a lot of these shredders before I got into fusion, prog, Jazz, and classical music.
    Jason Becker and Marty Friedman really opened up my ears and my mind. Steve Vai as well!
    Those first 2 Yngwie albums are incredible as well as his the Alcatrazz album that he's on. He was on fire back then 🤟

  • @riffmondo9733
    @riffmondo9733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great selection and a good homage to your late brother-in-law.
    I owned almost all of these on cassette back in the day.
    So many great guitarists came out of that period.

  • @mattwysock1020
    @mattwysock1020 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think that what really put the nail in the coffin of shred guitar and 80s metal in general was the rise Grunge and alternative rock.

  • @garyh.238
    @garyh.238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    All shred roads lead back to its 70's pioneer RITCHIE BLACKMORE......the Godfather of Neo-Classical shred guitar. Randy Rhoads, Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen and several others have cited Blackmore as significant influence on them. Need proof, here's what Vai said """“He had this mystique to die for. There were rumours of him being nasty and mean. But he could play his ass off”: Steve Vai salutes the genius of Ritchie Blackmore"""" from Louder, May 2024.

    • @johanjotun1647
      @johanjotun1647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Joe Pass was the first god tier fiddle player i saw on TV

    • @jacquesfinster5034
      @jacquesfinster5034 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Michael Schenker too, the licks, tone, riffs, classical influence, image etc...

    • @edwardyazinski3858
      @edwardyazinski3858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Blackmore total douce to my friends after show at Budokan. Tony Glover on the other hand very cool. All too hard for doucebag to be nice for all of 60 seconds and make a high school fan’s night.

    • @cirenosnor5768
      @cirenosnor5768 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Fiddle player?

    • @markgrant1302
      @markgrant1302 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Blackmore was one of many great players, but the beginning of shred as it was in the 80's and through today was without a doubt Edward Van Halen. Once Ed came along the benchmark was changed, the sound of Electric Guitar was changed. Yngwie has stated the impact of Van Halen and hearing that first album blew him awa, Randy Rhoades playing really evolved massively competing with Ed, and as far as Steve Vai goes, he'll state it Pretty clear , as he does in this link, there were 2 game changers Jimi Hendrix and Edward Van Halen
      th-cam.com/video/spB1XuedgkY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=avdAqMtY1FE8jNpe

  • @SimonHosford
    @SimonHosford หลายเดือนก่อน

    hahah Andy... in your opening comments you basically described "Me". I grew up in this era, and as a reasonably good Classical guitarist by age 12 when these albums started coming out, I could wrap my head around this stuff harmonically, so I loved the virtuosity and got busy practicing. You're right, I did indeed end up making a living as a session guitarist and touring with artists (and still do), but one of my favourite things to do now that I'm older is put together fun tribute gigs of all this crazy stuff (on my channel I have videos of my Racer x tribute, Malmsteen tribute and Van Halen tribute).. and it;s been wonderful fun and connects me to my teenage years and inspirations. And a wonderful unexpected side effect is that I've been contacted by many of the original musicians that played on these records just say Hi, which I never would have expected. Great video thanks for that, and all the best from Melbourne Australia. Simon Hosford

  • @wm-nu1yf
    @wm-nu1yf 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Vai has been my favorite guitarist for over 30 years. I also got into Zappa because of him. Passion and Warfare was Vai's masterpiece, but I love Flex-Able too just because of how over the top weird it is.

  • @TheHumbuckerboy
    @TheHumbuckerboy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Of course I am a big Gary Moore fan especially considering that Gary grew up only a couple of miles from myself in Belfast. However, I feel that the musician who really inspired the blues rock of the era was the late ,great Jeff Healey when he released his debut album 'See The Light' in 1988. Jeff's playing on that album was amazingly exciting . The single 'Confidence Man' was a breath of fresh air at the time and is still brilliant to this day. EDIT ... I wrote this comment before Jeff was mentioned on the presentation ! lol

  • @JohnnyRecently
    @JohnnyRecently 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Grant's story is beautiful. What a splendid idea...combing through Grant's albums. Andy, imagine somebody honoring you -after you die- by exploring your albums, videos, live performances, and sundry possessions.

  • @grahamharley4895
    @grahamharley4895 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    An idea for you Andy. Just listened to Jimmy Page going off on one in a live performance. It came to me that great though he is, his solos are almost separate performances isolated from the main 'text' of the song, whereas, for example, Gilmour's more subtle approach, is integrated with the overall musical effect. You've got a whole episode in a comparison?
    It almost describes my struggles to define 'Prog', and why I prefer Tony Banks's keyboard work to more random compositions.

  • @NIGHTFRIGHT2011
    @NIGHTFRIGHT2011 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would include Tony MacAlpine,Vinnie Moore. Richie Kotzen and Michael Lee Firkins in any list of great 80's guitarists.

  • @halcyon289
    @halcyon289 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mike Slamer . A melodic genius .

  • @johnalbasini6790
    @johnalbasini6790 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I had that David D Chastain album! I also had Chris Impelliteri’s first album.

  • @ukguitarnoodle
    @ukguitarnoodle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the Chris Poland album , his contribution to Megadeth is great, their best lead player for me.
    Shrapnel was my Bible !

  • @DamianPieroni
    @DamianPieroni 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had a similar guitar trajectory. My first hero was Ritchie Blackmore, to whom I played many an hour of air guitar. Then it was Maiden and Priest and their deadly duos. Eventually I discovered Gary Moore, who to this day remains my god. But it was an interview with Viv Campbell (a Moore clone) that led me to this shred era. He mentioned how intimidated he was by a guitarist with an unpronouncable name...one Yngwie Malmsteen. I ran out and bought Marching Out. I literally fell backwards on to my bed. I'd never heard the like. It was at that point that I decided to stop playing the tennis raquet, and actually try some of this stuff for real 40 years later I can do a decent Randy Rhodes/Schenker et al but never had the time or dedication to reach Malmsteen levels. After that, there was a new "Guitar World" cover star virtually every week: Gilbert, Vinnie Moore, Tony Macalpine Joey Taffola, Michael Lee Firkins, Ritchie Kotzen and on and on. It was such an exciting period.But like any other, it ran its course and started to get silly and boring. Gary DID bring it back to that emotional, wing and a prayer, hyper bendy bluesy stuff, but before too long the guitar hero was dead. Now we have a plethora of internet wizards who can play every style to perfection, but couldn't write a great riff or song if it hit em on the head, and will never reach mainstream attention in the way the 60's, 70's and 80's guys did.Really fortunate to have grown up in that era.

  • @Dutch2go
    @Dutch2go 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Michael schenker. UFO/MSG.

  • @perry4777
    @perry4777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Feeling over technique has always been an argument used to cover up the lack of true talent; I have never understood it.

  • @grayjohn6332
    @grayjohn6332 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Been waiting for this Jazz fusion vs shred. One album missing -Tony MacAlpine - Maximum Security.
    Malmsteen's Odyssey is an incredible. and you have the David T Chastain wow wow.
    Check out Ibanez guitars, the guitar for shredders 570. A rabbit hole awaits

  • @ChowYunFattty
    @ChowYunFattty 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Respectfully disagree on the statement that "to this day, nobody has picked like Malmsteen". Paul Gilbert took what Yngwie did and made it faster, cleaner, more percussive, and added string skipping.

  • @HelgeKS
    @HelgeKS หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ronnie Le Tekrø comes to mind

  • @randydean23
    @randydean23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    On the bit at the end_ "no matter where you go, that's where you'll be. " In other words despite all the careful planning and consideration over your destination and whether it's the right or wrong place_ you take you with you everywhere you go. No escaping that one. And so it might be the case that you will never fit in anywhere, but it could be that you could almost certainly fit in everywhere. It all depends on your perspective

  • @Datsun510zen
    @Datsun510zen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Although 80s guitar shredding is not my thing, but Andy managed to make it interesting, personal, and informative as usual. I'd love to hear his thought on fretless electric bass shredders like Jaco Pastorius, Les Claypool, and Mick Karn.

  • @tunaficiency
    @tunaficiency 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m a slightly younger generation but I’ve got very fond memories of passion and warfare and the extremist , I remember reading gormenghast and listening to the extremist I think I was 17 and the two are intertwined in my memory. Went to see satriani in the Birmingham NEC with my guitar teacher when hed just done the album with luminous flesh giants on so good . I also wrote a reggae in 7/4 which id intended to use joe satrianis pitch axis concept ( a common pedal tone but different modes off the same note ) but ended up just using the Lydian mode. I once had a hand massage and the next person the masseuse was going to see was Steve vai 😅

  • @garyh.238
    @garyh.238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    From the book "SHRED! - The Ultimate Guide to Warp-Speed Guitar" by Maloof & Prown, 2006; at page x is the following statement about Ritchie Blackmore.........""Blackmore opened the shred floodgates on Deep Purple's 1972 anthem "Highway Star," and rock guitar was never the same. HIs classical arpeggios, whammy dives, and fast Strat-picking created a post-Hendrix style that eventually begat Euro-metal, neo-classical, and thrash. In fact, if you compare shred to astrophysics, then Blackmore is simply "The Big Bang" of the genre.

    • @Innerspace100
      @Innerspace100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never seen that quote before, but it's quite right. Blackmore was the one who took the first steps in that direction, and then all the others came later, picked the ball up as it were, and ran with it. Heavy metal as a whole would be a very different beast, I think, if Deep Purple hadn't been there at the start of it all.

    • @garyh.238
      @garyh.238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Innerspace100 Somehow though, Blackmore and Deep Purple's contributions to hard rock,/ heavy metal are often overlooked. Seems that Zeppelin, Sabbath and other groups get the lion's share of attention.

    • @Innerspace100
      @Innerspace100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@garyh.238 I know. They never achieved quite the same success in America as the two other bands. They got close for a brief moment in 1973/'74, but then everything imploded with Stormbringer, Blackmore's departure and the whole Bolin/Hughes substance abuse issues that followed. Not exactly being the darlings of the Jann Venner gang a.k.a the Rock'n'roll HOF/Rolling Stone magazine doesn't help matters much either, I think...

    • @garyh.238
      @garyh.238 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Innerspace100 Yes, the constantly rotating line-ups; management which wasn't as protective of the band as it could have been; a difficult relationship with the rock music press; and a few other factors have made Purple somewhat of an outlier compared to their contemporaries.

    • @Innerspace100
      @Innerspace100 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@garyh.238 John Colletta was a bit of a git, to be honest.

  • @MrLcowles
    @MrLcowles 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A funny story. Circa 1990 or '91 in Saskatoon Jeff Healey played at the University of Saskatchewan pub called Louie's. I was right beside the stage and he was given 'er all he had and started up, after a few beers too as I recall, his chair flew backwards and was stumbling all over the small stage. His band mates tried keeping on the dais but it was hopeless and tumbled off off right on top of me. He was a big guy, fat and tall, so I was flattened like a pancake and it knocked the wind out me. He got up called for the waitress to bring me a beer, then apologized got back on stage with help of the band and kept on going. It was a great show. Maybe he didn't like how I smelled...

  • @TheTobesOfHades
    @TheTobesOfHades 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the tribute to your brother in law.
    If you're into John McLaughlin I'd recommend Steve Morse.
    Another fantastic guitarist who can play anything is Guthrie Govan.

  • @randydean23
    @randydean23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was born in 1975 and so while I am familiar with all of these shred guys I have to admit that I kinda hated it at the time because it all seemed like guitar gymnastics as opposed to music. It was particularly rough for me because I was much more of a classic rock psychedelic type of player on electric and more of singer songwriter guy on acoustic which I played pretty much as often if not more than I did electric. Over the years and years of playing though I developed more and more faculty on the instrument and eventually there came a point where I rediscovered shred but this time around I could actually play a lot of it and I have to admit it's a load of fun to do,, but I have to be equally as honest and admit that while I do find it fun to play that sort of thing nowadays that doesn't in turn mean thalt it has any more musical heft my or the greater public's

  • @AndrewjWilson
    @AndrewjWilson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Andy is off on one 😊😊😊😂

  • @geoffccrow2333
    @geoffccrow2333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘

  • @mattwysock1020
    @mattwysock1020 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jason Becker was diagnosed with ALS (Sometimes called Lou Gehrig's disease). The Same disorder that Stephen Hawking had.

  • @reubensane5539
    @reubensane5539 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vivian Campbell on Dios albums .

  • @MegaFrancescop
    @MegaFrancescop 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤❤❤

  • @iansteel5569
    @iansteel5569 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Andy, you mentioned 'The Hampsters', is that the 3 piece band that toured until about 10 years ago? If so, they were great.

  • @spacecruiser101
    @spacecruiser101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gary wasn’t really technically “shredding” in the mid 70s. (That came a bit later.)He was just doing fast pentatonic stuff at that point. Gary did the Blues album at the recommendation of a producer because he was fed up with his career/approach at that point. Essentially Gary was a Hard Rock guitarist based in blues.
    Randy Rhoads looked up to Gary and asked his opinion about joining Ozzy.. All the shredders listened to Gary - even Michael Angelo Batio. EVH watched Gary’s every move when they did the Monsters Of Rock. The fact that he was George Harrison’s favourite guitarist speaks volumes

    • @AndyEdwardsDrummer
      @AndyEdwardsDrummer  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you heard this? Not just pentatonics here th-cam.com/video/VIK1GweZ97g/w-d-xo.htmlsi=mFjdm3yt6Aneeeft

    • @spacecruiser101
      @spacecruiser101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AndyEdwardsDrummer fantastic mate! This is late seventies-I’m being pedantic. This track has one of his “signature” licks which is a maj7 arpeggio played at blistering speed. Everybody ripped it from Gary. It was the first thing I learned how to shred as a teenager. Think Dirty Fingers

    • @AndyEdwardsDrummer
      @AndyEdwardsDrummer  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't worry...I am used to pedantic comments here.

    • @spacecruiser101
      @spacecruiser101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AndyEdwardsDrummer 😂
      great channel mate.

    • @AndyEdwardsDrummer
      @AndyEdwardsDrummer  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You know your Gary Moore. He was one of the greatest

  • @wallac11
    @wallac11 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jeff Healy started playing jazz trumpet in the swing and hot jazz styles after his blues rock career ended. An unbelievable talent.

  • @jeffbuege6509
    @jeffbuege6509 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The car is on fire, but my hair looks nice.

  • @dandepuff
    @dandepuff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the shred selection but here's a challenge for you Andy: top 10 most schizo/hodge podge/stylistically diverse albums? Ranked from unbearable to absolutely disgusting?

  • @outwest100az
    @outwest100az 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Early the year saw the G3 tour opening night in Tucson. What a show, Via blew two amps etc and Eric Johson just didn't fit into the son & father duo of Satch and Via. Great show that could have used a better sound system but well worth it

    • @robertlamkin6464
      @robertlamkin6464 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@outwest100az I would rather listen timo EJ of the three.
      What did you mean when you said he did not fit in?

    • @outwest100az
      @outwest100az 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertlamkin6464 he seemed to be isolated and distant from the other two just seemed out of place. I have seen EJ twice in Tucson and he was awesome but his whole being just seemed so far removed from what the twins were doing it come across as out of play.

    • @robertlamkin6464
      @robertlamkin6464 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@outwest100az Thanks…That is what I thought you meant; and I can see that. I do not know why (aside from a paycheck) he wants to do it; certainly from an artistic angle.

    • @outwest100az
      @outwest100az 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@robertlamkin6464 Last time I saw EJ he played with Mike Stern one hell of a show.

    • @robertlamkin6464
      @robertlamkin6464 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@outwest100az I’ll bet!
      I have seen EJ twice, but just his band.
      He and Phil Keaggy are my Mt. Rushmore of guitar players; blending the majestic with the technical that anyone else is doing.

  • @JordiCasany
    @JordiCasany 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid, but I don't fully agree with the statement that Malmsteem is an alternate-picking player like DiMeola or McLaughlin. His technique relies much more on economy picking and, in that sense, his mechanics are similar to those of, for instance, Eric Johnson.

    • @robertlamkin6464
      @robertlamkin6464 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JordiCasany EJ, my fav.
      Jordi, can you explain economy picking?

  • @Truthinshredding1
    @Truthinshredding1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You'll laugh if you read the transcript.

  • @nolslifegren
    @nolslifegren 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shred is dead

  • @thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697
    @thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, I remember David Chastain a little bit. I think I might have bought a cassette or CD from him years ago that I have long ago lost.
    So, Grant didn't have any albums from Tony Macalpine?

  • @vcp93
    @vcp93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Dude, no Shawn Lane?

    • @riffmondo9733
      @riffmondo9733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh yeah. A monster!

  • @jefft275
    @jefft275 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Tony MacAlpine Edge of Insanity and Maximum Security should be in there too. He is a monster shredder.

    • @thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697
      @thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yep if Grant had those albums. I actually think Macalpine's best playing came over 10 years later when playing for the fusion band Cab.

    • @ruedigernassauer
      @ruedigernassauer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697 Listen to his latest album, "Equilibrium". It even beats the older stuff.

    • @thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697
      @thewestfaceofdhaulagiri6697 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ruedigernassauer
      I think have listened to that. I still think his stuff with cab was better and especially that live album they did.

    • @SimonHosford
      @SimonHosford หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      100% Agreed. I still have my vinyl of Edge Of Insanity

  • @johanjotun1647
    @johanjotun1647 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Cacophony Becker/Friedman is what happens when 2 gods are in the same space

  • @annemickelson2621
    @annemickelson2621 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Steve Morse Band - The Introduction
    th-cam.com/video/1O8FYOVszA8/w-d-xo.html

  • @stevesheroan4131
    @stevesheroan4131 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I think Jan Akkerman should be in every conversation about the origins of shred. That dude is a sick shredder.

    • @thomasturner8064
      @thomasturner8064 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Jan Akkerman was doing sweep picking 10 -15 years before it was even a thing. Great guitarist but not very well known, at least here in the states.

    • @lamecasuelas2
      @lamecasuelas2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! He can also Play very funky stuff

    • @stevesheroan4131
      @stevesheroan4131 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In all fairness to Andy, this video is about 80s shred albums, and Jan is definitely more identified with the 70s.

    • @thomasturner8064
      @thomasturner8064 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @stevesheroan4131 True, but nice to hear him mentioned anyway. And if somebody reads this and checks him out then no harm done.

    • @stevesheroan4131
      @stevesheroan4131 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thomasturner8064 Absolutely!

  • @mauricerevelle8451
    @mauricerevelle8451 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Overlooked is Vito Bratta of White Lion 80s Metal/Rock band..

  • @AndrewjWilson
    @AndrewjWilson 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another great video Andy. Tony McCalpine was another 80s neo classical player who was a virtuoso on guitar and keyboards

  • @pencilpauli9442
    @pencilpauli9442 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Shredding. It all started with Marmalade.
    Personally, I don't understand why it is such a revered technique.
    It's the equivalent of seeing who can play "The Flight of the Bumblebee" fastest #TwoSetViolin
    I anticipate the shredding I am about to receive. lol

    • @UphillGardener-ly5sh
      @UphillGardener-ly5sh 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had the same view of death metal drummers, it turned out they were some of the best drummers in the world

    • @Composer19691
      @Composer19691 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see it like this… playing fast on violin, sax, piano… doesn’t seem to be as much of a technical issue as it is on guitar. It’s somewhat of a coveted skill and achievement if one can pull it off… with taste and creativity of course.

    • @pencilpauli9442
      @pencilpauli9442 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Composer19691
      Don't see how playing anything fast for the sake of playing fast is of any musical worth, though.
      That makes music not much more than a party trick of technique.
      For me the musical experience of shredding is not something I find particularly interesting, and of course that doesn't mean I think that the guitarists aren't gifted or that others should not appreciate them.
      It's totally subjective.
      I'm just more fascinated by rhythm, colours and textures than sheer tempo, as exiting as that may be.
      It's easy enough to go find something else to listen too lol

    • @Composer19691
      @Composer19691 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pencilpauli9442 Read what I said… “with taste and creativity”… very few can make it musical.

    • @edwardyazinski3858
      @edwardyazinski3858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Give me one Santana Europa to a million shredders. Not one of them move me like the beauty of that song.
      Like drag stripe speed vs LeMans endurance racing or Dakar.

  • @buzzbomb67
    @buzzbomb67 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sorry to hear about your brother. RIP. So cool that you got his record collection! Man, he must’ve had some awesome albums, if these are any indication.
    I didn’t have Flex-able, but I did have Flex-able Leftovers. Also had Surfing With The Alien. The first four Yngwie albums. Racer X.
    Unfortunately, there was a house fire and it took my entire collection of around 2000 albums (including 45s and 78s), plus books, movies, 47 guitars, amps, drum kit, stereos, etc. oof.

  • @Stpaulus101
    @Stpaulus101 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    No mention of jake e lee:::🧐

  • @demokraatti
    @demokraatti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    John Sykes can do it all: sing, write great songs, shred and play with top class musicality. A complete musician.

    • @Megamanic-nw9ni
      @Megamanic-nw9ni 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, I saw him with Lizzy & he was great. It's a shame he seems to have "frozen" and isn't putting out music.

    • @YtuserSumone-rl6sw
      @YtuserSumone-rl6sw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Megamanic-nw9niI'm of the impression he got jaded with how the business works, how the corporate and media people have steered the consumers toward what is less expense, more profit for them.
      I believe John doesn't think it's worth the effort because he has his life set and he is just on his very own journey now.
      If he would make some club gigs or band appearances people would record it with the crap phones and upload here on TH-cam making it lesser. He probably thinks of these aspects.
      What would be really interesting is to hear his thoughts about all things.

    • @colinburroughs9871
      @colinburroughs9871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YtuserSumone-rl6sw he's also hard to pin down and get demo work going is a thing I've seen

    • @YtuserSumone-rl6sw
      @YtuserSumone-rl6sw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@colinburroughs9871 You're right. Last I even saw Vinny Appice say he tried to contact John again to see what's up or if they'd start to "cook something up" but John was evasively few worded with him too even with their good relations. Vinny said nobody knows anything about John 😂 As an introvert I can totally relate to J.S. in this way of rolling.

    • @frannyp46
      @frannyp46 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A pal of mine played second guitar in a covers band with John Sykes called Streetfighter about 1980. I met John a few times and he was incendiary even then and a couple of months later, he joined Tygers of Pantang.

  • @edwardyazinski3858
    @edwardyazinski3858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What I have always loved about Schenker that most shredders don’t have is his melodic brilliance. Like the interlude in Let It Roll. Who does that? And this was 1975.

  • @apparaoapparao
    @apparaoapparao 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I wrote to Steve Vai at his record company address printed on my copy of Flexable. I wrote several musicians with an included stamped self return envelope and “he” was one of the few to write me back and send a little promo card/sticker. Thank you Mr Vai or whoever you were who sent me the items. Very much appreciated.

    • @edwardyazinski3858
      @edwardyazinski3858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nice! Cool story. As mentioned Blackmore was a dick to my friends, I got back stage after Lizzy concert and Phil and Downey treated us punky teens as equals and thanked us for being there. Spent a cpl hours hanging out. Will never forget their personal generosity. I met SRV on his Texas Flood tour after an incredible performance, and he was warm and welcoming. Humble too. These memories stay with me forever.

  • @crankjazz
    @crankjazz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This takes me back to that time. The flexi-discs that came with "Guitar Player" at the time, that i still have, were hugely influential on many people. Including me. In my case, I didnt have the dexterity to "shred" on the guitar, but I "could" transfer my violin, and double bass, training to the electric bass.

  • @damienfoyer
    @damienfoyer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Any love for Alex Masi?

  • @grahamnunn8998
    @grahamnunn8998 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shrapnel came out of a Guitar Player magazine column by Mike Varney. He would review demos sent to the magazine. I still have all the issues including the one with the Jennifer Batten review, a shy, slightly nerdy teenager.

  • @GordonHeaney
    @GordonHeaney 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great choices, bought pretty much all of them at the time

  • @srvuk
    @srvuk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An odd comment about the legacies of SRV and Jeff Healey. Interesting to see Jonny Lang getting a mention but not Kenny Wayne Shepherd.

  • @albertoramirez6388
    @albertoramirez6388 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the comedy bit at the end 😂

  • @Composer19691
    @Composer19691 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Electric guitar took a quantum leap in the 80’s, regarding technique. As a teenage guitarist I was full on into Hendrix and SRV.
    A friend sat me down and showed me the Paul Gilbert vhs instructional. Changed everything!

    • @riffmondo9733
      @riffmondo9733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Love Paul!
      And Paul gave lessons to Buckethead when he was 18 and Buckethead was 15.
      And it shows.

    • @edwardyazinski3858
      @edwardyazinski3858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So, seeing SRV front row small club and many times after, my opinion is that shredders lack his fiery soul, and his union with the guitar. Have tried many times to appreciate Gilbert’s playing and enjoy his interviews immensely but his playing just… take it or leave it.

  • @all-r4b1w
    @all-r4b1w 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for that! Always interesting and entertaining. Liked that finger of finality - no need to go any further, pls!

  • @davidbagnall335
    @davidbagnall335 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video, no mention of Slade at Castle Donington or Wrathchild this time expeceted that the Roadie that got the UFO gig Tommy McCreden 1984 will get s mention in " They Were Hiding Behind The Amps " video ?

  • @davidbottomley1929
    @davidbottomley1929 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jeff Healey was also a good trumpet player. A friend and I found ourselves in the basement of a club in Toronto back in the late 90's enjoying a performance by Jeff Healey's Jazz Wizards.

  • @ukguitarnoodle
    @ukguitarnoodle 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Check out Heavy Machinery by Holdsworth WITH Anders and Jens Johansson.

  • @riffmondo9733
    @riffmondo9733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Please have Buckethead in there.

    • @MrMaynardWR
      @MrMaynardWR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      definitely

    • @stevejensen5112
      @stevejensen5112 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love BH but was he 80s?

    • @riffmondo9733
      @riffmondo9733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠1987 was his first band 1988 was the introduction to the Buckethead persona.

    • @Johnnysmithy24
      @Johnnysmithy24 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Buckethead only started releasing albums in the 90s
      I do think he deserves his own video tho

    • @stevejensen5112
      @stevejensen5112 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@riffmondo9733 thanks

  • @KenGaskins-nm3gx
    @KenGaskins-nm3gx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tony MacAlpine's 'Maximum Security' was pretty wild as mentioned. I think his best album so far though that I've heard is 'Chromaticity', a great album in my opinion. The single 'Still Valley' is pretty unique. 'Maker Is King' off of 'Masters of Paradise' is interesting...kind of Motorheadish. 'Powerfield' off of the 'Evolution' album is pretty good too. Love his compositions and his melodic playing. He's a beast on keyboards too
    Yngwie Malmsteen's 'Rising Force' and 'Marching Out' are great albums, as is Vinnie Moore's 'Minds Eye'.

  • @michaelmurray8742
    @michaelmurray8742 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gary Moore actually credited Jeff Healy as the inspiration to release a Blues album. Apparently he wanted to but thought it would be a commercial disaster but when Jeff had success with his album it gave him the confidence to release his. Great video as always

  • @duster71
    @duster71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I sent away for Flexible the day it was in the new Zappa album,not sure might have been You Are What You is.Fabulous album.

  • @Aptius
    @Aptius หลายเดือนก่อน

    Went through the 80s shred players too, took me from playing violin in orchestras to focusing on guitar. Enjoyed your retrospective, but was surprisingly touched by your existentialist stream of consciousness at the end.

  • @drthess
    @drthess 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The best constructed -composed album of the decade, that happens to include "shredding" is of course maximum security by MacAlpine ... phenomenal compositions

  • @ChrisUK5150
    @ChrisUK5150 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I took up guitar in 1980 so lived right through the evolvement of rock guitar in the 80s and it was hard not to get swept up in the whole speed and technique thing. Things did get a 'bit silly' (cue Monty Python sketch) by the end of the decade and my fingers weren't playing ball so I moved onto other musical pastures. Although there were some great players from that era I still love like Ronnie Le Tekro, Vitto Bratta and Greg Howe, these days I prefer the guys who inspired 'shred' (I hate that term!) such as Uli, Gary, EVH, Schenker, Sykes, Marino etc. Its nice to look back on that exciting pioneering time though.

  • @toddmcdaniels1567
    @toddmcdaniels1567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the Vai album with droopy guitar on the cover. I didn’t know there was another version of the cover.
    Nothing wrong with economy picking. I use economy picking + sweep picking. The only drawback is you can’t Beebop because you lose the alternation of down beat and up beat.
    You can play guitar. And you were obviously influenced by 80s guitar. While I’m very appreciative of your drumming, by all means, and would like to see more, I’m curious what made you lean toward drums as your primary thing, Andy?

  • @pattardn
    @pattardn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't remember where, but Zappa once spoke of the various "psychologies" or "sociologies" of the different musicians in the band. Having played with different musicians from various genres myself I thought it was quite funny, but rather accurate. Frank started as a drummer and, I guess, the drummer's commanding overview from the back and middle of the stage is a vantage point, that, say, a keyboard player doesn't get to entertain. I really enjoyed this and would really love to hear your points of view of the different textures, different instruments and musicians bring to the table. Great show!

  • @thebat2785
    @thebat2785 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chris Polands Return to Metalopolis is one of my fave shred Albums , I met Chris this week while he was touring Australia on the kings of thrash tour with Jeff young and Dave ellefson. David t Chastain is awesome as well he has 3 projects going at any one time

  • @colinburroughs9871
    @colinburroughs9871 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Satriani is the most relevant guy in this phase (having sat around and thought this over) and Surfing With the Alien being the 80's shred album that matters the absolute most. With that I grew up with Not of this Earth and think things like Rubina and New Day are total lost jems and I enjoy listening to it as much as anything guitar driven, honestly. All of this stuff is built on Van Halen 1 if we're being honest though.

  • @Megamanic-nw9ni
    @Megamanic-nw9ni 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm partial to "Time Odyssey" by Vinnie Moore - he's massively underrated.
    Although it's not strictly "shred" I'd include the first Alcatraz album, in my opinion that was the most listenable Yngwie ever got. Although his solo albums might be more "virtuoso", to quote the movie "Fame" - "That's not music, that's masturb@tion!" :)

  • @jfv65
    @jfv65 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well, Andy, there are a lot of people who LOVE to be in the car. The journey for me is as important as the destination. It's a great way to listen to music as well.
    I liked this video a lot: Satriani, EVH, Vai. Great memories.

  • @timholden3436
    @timholden3436 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent Andy. A nice quirky look at some 80's guitarists - not all shredders by the way - from a non-guitarist's perspective. By huge coincidence earlier tonight I was listening to CHASTAIN (the group) album "Mystery of Illusion" 1985 on the Shrapnel label.
    David T. and Mike Varney formed the group to promote David T., together with a long forgotten female screecher (name omitted on purpose) whom Mike erroneously believed had talent. David T. Chastain released solo guitar-forward albums under his own name, mostly sans vocals, as well as more traditional heavy metal under the group name.
    P.S. I came upon Jeff Healey in a Calgary record store circa 1995. He was on the floor "looking" at 78rpm jazz records. His friend and bass player Joe Rockman was reading the labels and handing them to Jeff to examine for condition. I ran to the record stacks, grabbed the first copy of the "See the Light" LP I saw, ran back and ask him to sign it.
    Jeff stood up and signed the inner sleeve (illegibly but confidently) on Joe's back. I still have it.

  • @Matias-music-71
    @Matias-music-71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    stand alone shredders/albums even though I did briefly go down and explore that avenue was never something I could really enjoy , ie your Joe Satriani , Malmsteen , Vai .., it is almost like the 10 minute drum solos , after a while I almost just wanna hear the Spice Girls instead ;)

    • @Composer19691
      @Composer19691 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s like anything else… the cream rises to the top. Only a handful who can keep my interest with a balance of composition, skill and vision.

  • @Drinckx2
    @Drinckx2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent hat work at the end. I think Tony MacAlpine should be in any list. He also played guitar and keyboards with a number of these other players. Vinnie Moore was the player I discovered after Malmsteen. His album, Mind's Eye is a shred classic.
    I listened to all the players you mentioned although some were more difficult to find. I had quite a few on a compilation put out by Mike Varney and his roster of Shrapnel Records' artists. Marc Bonilla and Michael Lee Firkins were much listened to additions to my shred CD collection. I avoided Michael Angelo Batio - possibly because of the terrible wig - a syrup from Hades - though that didn't put me off Frank Gambale (who could out-shred everyone of these players, albeit in more of a jazz mode). Gambale, in addition to looking like a radical lesbian academic in that wig, also looked more like a rock shredder with his Ibanez Sabre - a fusion player with a metal guitar.
    I also heard, and then bought, the debut album by Dave Sharman - Britain's very own contribution to the Ready Shreddy Go fashion of the time. It's still fun to look back on that music. The only musicians of this genre I ever went to see live were Satriani and Vai - I guess they were the ones that stood out (and the only ones that seemed to tour in the UK, unless you went to see Megadeth with Friedman or Poland).

  • @paolobertiglia3738
    @paolobertiglia3738 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    About the end of the video ranting… it could be the basis of a prog epic…

  • @elbib2446
    @elbib2446 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    jeff healey was also a accomplished jazz guitarist,he spent most of his time later playing his own blues and jazz club

    • @YtuserSumone-rl6sw
      @YtuserSumone-rl6sw 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One of my all time memories warming my heart is seeing and listening to Jeff Healey&band once co-headlining with BB. King in a sunny park on a summers day, also playing together. What a day!!!
      Jeff was just a phenomenal musician.

  • @delorangeade
    @delorangeade 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whatever the subject of the video, it's always good if Brian Downey gets a mention.

    • @edwardyazinski3858
      @edwardyazinski3858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The most unheralded drummer. What a shame it is to! Spent about two hours with Brian after a show in Tokyo on the Chinatown tour. Very humble and down to earth guy. Treated a few 15/16 yr old hero worshiping teens like pals, (as did Phil).

  • @calfb
    @calfb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Richie Kotzen - started as a shredder, then went jazz and fusion, then became one of the best and most prolific singer, song writer, guitarists ever.

  • @stevendavid5370
    @stevendavid5370 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is it when you talk about great guitar players you never mention Jimmy Page?

    • @riffmondo9733
      @riffmondo9733 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He was not a “shredder”.

    • @edwardyazinski3858
      @edwardyazinski3858 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hmm are shredders “great” guitar players? What constitutes greatness? Is there one shredder album better than Zep IV or Phy Graph? Nope. Not one chance. So what is required - besides being twiddle fast is compositional skills. Not just for geeks who say whoa neat but

  • @aliensporebomb
    @aliensporebomb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't forget the blues boom (at least in the U.S.) was partially kickstarted by Stevie Ray Vaughan who was almost a shred blues player in some ways. He died just as he was getting widespread acceptance and popularity. This was around the time of or just before Gary Moore's blues record came out.

  • @jackpearson1110
    @jackpearson1110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here's where my musical snobbery chose a different path. Once I discovered RTF, Ponty, Hammer, Zappa etc, I put everybody in rock down a level. Don't tell me how great Tommy Lee is, if you can't even tell me who Lenny White is. As embarrassing as Kiss was, the whole hairband, MTV era of feminized bikers without bikes, to this day is a vibe I don't like. "Pour some sugar on Me" is everything I despise in that stripper music sound. (unless I'm in a strip club...I think she loves me!) Everybody playing the same boring slow, distorted notes, screaming vocals...looking stupid. Sorry 😎. Al Di Meola was my fave and spent a decade trying to force my refined taste down all those dumb younger boys brains...! So you don't like the Beatles, but Kiss is the greatest? You even have Kiss posters....Why would I not snub their taste in music? In the last few years, I've even taken DiMeola down a couple of steps to #3 or #4. I got tired of the shredding sound, but more the songwriting. I've discovered you don't need to have a machine gun to make the perfect shot. I think Knopfler is a better player & COMPOSER overall, than most guitar players. Melody matters more to me now. Maybe....Weather Report was better than RTF, because of songwriting. That's hard for me to admit...

  • @cerveshred
    @cerveshred 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the classic shapnel shredders of the 80`s. My favorites are Macalpine, Becker, Yngwie, tafola, kurt james. But also love the second wave of shredder on the 90`s. Ron Thal, Stine Brothers, Todd Duane, Scott Mishoe, Derek Taylor, Darren Housholder, etc.

  • @johncrocker-nh7ey
    @johncrocker-nh7ey 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an awesome collection I am so sorry you got it the way you got it but what a way to remember your brother-in-law you're right Marty Friedman was in cacophony that's where I first ran into him monster guitarist I know you kind of grudgingly give Blues a nod and I know you know these people but I would encourage you to revisit Edgar Winter he leans a lot towards jazz in his playing his brother Johnny leans towards the Blues put especially when they are together Tobacco Road you can hear a blues jazz fusion like few people can do Edgar does quite a bit of Blues jazz fusion also on his solo work and I fell in love with Jeff Healey doing the movie Roadhouse went out bought his first three albums he's incredible no doubt about it Blues still touches my soul I tend to lean towards the Blues and maybe that's why I fell in love with guitarists like Jimi Hendrix Billy Gibson Joe Walsh Rory Gallagher extremely sorry I missed the premiere I was in church

  • @Aaron628318
    @Aaron628318 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Technically beyond Allan Holdsworth I would question, certainly the speed and fluidity and of his legato playing.

  • @keithweist3879
    @keithweist3879 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I started with DiMeola. Saw him play in a bar in downtown MPLS. He picks everything alternate picking. Malmsteen does economy picking to avoid playing the next string with an upstroke. I introduced Rising Force to my older brother and while he was impressed after the third song he said, I feel like I've heard it all. Neo classical style is so difficult I feel those players didn't practice composition enough. I prefer the songwriting of DiMeola and Satriani. Loved your drum solo btw. Super stylish and impressive!!

  • @damienfoyer
    @damienfoyer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was a fun discussion. I have all these albums and most from release era. Good to hear your point of view on these.
    As my other post, give Alex Masi "Vertical Invader" a listen. Yet, it's a 1990 release.

  • @thomasturner8064
    @thomasturner8064 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    David Chastain did some solo records and also had a band called CJSS. He never hit the big time but is a great guitar player. He's from Cincinnati, Ohio. Don't know if he's still making music or not.