Just a suggestion, instead of resting one of the boltcutter handle on the floor and push the other to cut it, you should also try using both hands to push the handle. See if it makes any difference. Sometimes, you just lock the bike to the pole and the chain wont be dangling on the ground, there's no (easy) way for you to use the ground as leverage if that's the case.
@@pauliusruginis5264 so in real live that would not work since the chain is usually a little higher. You can´t reach the chain with one end of the bolt cutter resting on the ground. Anyway. I would not put to much thought into this. In the end these chains are a deterrent against opportunistic thieves who will drive or carry your bike away. If someone is in the professional bike stealing business he will get your bike no matter what you do (same goes for your car)
@@bernddemandt6170 It actually does work in real life. But you've got exactly the right point. These locks are meant to protect against opportunistic thieves. You can't defeat this lock with small cable cutters, you can't break it by yanking on the bike. And that's good enough for locking the bike outside a gas station while you're getting something to drink on a ride.
@@CanIHasThisName that's what I need a lock for just to run inside a store and grab something not leaving it out overnight so yeah these chain locks would work well for me..
They does not weight 100kg so it does´nt help much to thief to rest them on a ground while cutting tha chain really...But its a right point, that for a little weak thief it helps to press only one handle of a cutter, while another one is pushing against the floor like in video . So he can´t push them of his almost all body weight.Thats true
Abus rates its 6mm chains with square links and key locks as Security Level 6 for where the risk of theft is low to medium. Abus' strongest chains are their Granit Citychain XPlus 1060 line that has 10mm hexagonal links and they rate at Security Level 15 (maximum). The 10mm chain has nearly 3x as much metal to cut through compared to the 6mm chain.
And they're cut in 15 seconds with the bigger bolt cutter (needs a partial cut first hence you cut it twice), or in 80 seconds with a portable angle grinder.
Abus are only good in marketing. They did nothing to innovate in bike security with all the resources they have. As opposed to some small Brit companies like Litelock or Pragmasis. Abus will never get my money!
I have this same chain six feet of it and after watching this video I now know it's six feet of junk and a big thank you I can not replace my ebike. But I can replace the chain
My ex boyfriend stole bikes for his heroin habit. This is why you lock your bike up with the chain not near the ground… Bike locking 101. Also for massive bolt cutter they’re $180+ USD so the addicts that steal bikes sell tools that expensive and don’t have them. And they’re massive and don’t fit in a backpack. Also this is an 8mm hardened steel chain. Try 10mm and with the chain off the ground, you won’t be able to cut them since you can’t use your weight. Also if you do use a u lock u the mini ones because the big ones you can switch them off with a long pipe/rebar.
@@Eddy_E. would you say 12mm is the minimum size required for a safe bicycle lock? Is 10mm not strong enough at all? I’ve also been told 14mm or above is best or atleast 12mm for extra security. I’m just curious for my own bike safety?
@@dylwaybake Use two locks on your bike, such as a U-lock like the Abus X-Granite and a 10mm chain like Kryptonite Evolution 1090. If your bike is not very expensive, thieves won't bother with two locks.
An argument for U locks? Some U bolt style locks stand up to bolt cutters and some don't and making the distinction between the size of bolt cutters is worthwhile as the smaller ones can be much more easily carried, are more commonly used in most scenarios, cost less and conceal easier. Also not using the ground with cutters is much harder. But still... Given that the brand was ABUS, square shaped links and hardened, I would have assumed, this is very disappointing especially the cut with the smaller pair of bolt cutters. Maybe the chain wasn't hardened security chain but the color and square shape would indicate that it was... generally... so it's quite disappointing and disillusioning... I'm pleased you used a big and small pair of bolt cutters as its an important distinction.
U locks are better, but I have posted a video using the same tool to snip through a kryptonite. It was more difficult but once I had a purchase on it it cut it. I see a lock as insurance for my trip home. If my bike was so good that I didn't want to lose it then I would just bring it in. I guess some people don't have that option.
I'm thinking both haha. A U-lock and a chain lock would surely deter thieves in public though I think most passerbys would be too scared to approach some meth head that has a gigantic tool.
Well but you wont have this scenario in real life.. The lock will be on bike so you will not be able to rest that tool on ground like that and push with your weight... I think the result might be different when you have to actually hold that tool in both hands, just to have access to the lock on the bike....
Actually, U-locks are easier to defeat. But if you want decent protection, you need to buy a much better lock. The lock in this particular video is not a good one.
Some U bolt style locks stand up to bolt cutters and some don't and making the distinction between the size of bolt cutters is worthwhile as the smaller ones can be much more easily carried and are more commonly used in most scenarios. Given that the brand was ABUS, square shaped links and hardened I would have assumed this is very disappointing especially the cut with the smaller pair of bolt cutters... Maybe the chain wasn't hardened security chain but the color and square shape would indicate that it was... generally... so it's quite disappointing and disillusioning...
(1) , you must bring the croppers on street and let everyone see you are going to break the chain ........... (2) no police see your croppers and stop you for investigation
When you pull the chain out of the black sleeve it kind of ruins the test for me. The lock does have that sleeve in order to make it just a bit harder to get it off, so why didnt you try and cut through the fabric as well?
I heard of a guy who used an extension cord as a bike lock, plugging it into itself to lock it. Why didn't I try to cut through the fabric? Only so that I would ruin the test for you: the thief with no scissors.
@@bootsowen I don't need to. If the chain is 1 meter off the ground you only can use the strength of your arms, not your body weight. Is not that easy to cut a decent chain with your arms strength and an average tool.
I reckon, most people won't be dangling this on the ground when they lock their bike up and the amount of bike thefts in my town are astronomical (Terrace, BC) and all the homeless crackheads in town that steal bikes are built like a scare crow.
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I like to see you do this when it’s connected to a bike On a bike rack and you can’t use the ground as leverage.
Why don't you try it and post a video?
Mike’s got a point
Abus has 2 tons 4, 6, 8, 10, 12... the video don’t disclose what is, I have a 8 tons and it’s pretty strong but a 2 tons it’s easy to cut
You use your knee then
Mikes right. Good luck cutting this off a bike rack unless you’re the goddam hulk
Just a suggestion, instead of resting one of the boltcutter handle on the floor and push the other to cut it, you should also try using both hands to push the handle. See if it makes any difference. Sometimes, you just lock the bike to the pole and the chain wont be dangling on the ground, there's no (easy) way for you to use the ground as leverage if that's the case.
The bolt cutters are so big, is bearly makes a difference, you ussualy rest them on the ground even in natural habitat
@@pauliusruginis5264 so in real live that would not work since the chain is usually a little higher. You can´t reach the chain with one end of the bolt cutter resting on the ground.
Anyway. I would not put to much thought into this. In the end these chains are a deterrent against opportunistic thieves who will drive or carry your bike away. If someone is in the professional bike stealing business he will get your bike no matter what you do (same goes for your car)
@@bernddemandt6170 It actually does work in real life. But you've got exactly the right point. These locks are meant to protect against opportunistic thieves. You can't defeat this lock with small cable cutters, you can't break it by yanking on the bike. And that's good enough for locking the bike outside a gas station while you're getting something to drink on a ride.
bolt cutters can have metal legs/stand.
@@CanIHasThisName that's what I need a lock for just to run inside a store and grab something not leaving it out overnight so yeah these chain locks would work well for me..
When you lock your bike make sure the chain is high off the ground so the thief can’t rest the bolt cutter on the ground
They does not weight 100kg so it does´nt help much to thief to rest them on a ground while cutting tha chain really...But its a right point, that for a little weak thief it helps to press only one handle of a cutter, while another one is pushing against the floor like in video . So he can´t push them of his almost all body weight.Thats true
i lost the key to my bike lock and this really helped
Abus rates its 6mm chains with square links and key locks as Security Level 6 for where the risk of theft is low to medium. Abus' strongest chains are their Granit Citychain XPlus 1060 line that has 10mm hexagonal links and they rate at Security Level 15 (maximum). The 10mm chain has nearly 3x as much metal to cut through compared to the 6mm chain.
And they're cut in 15 seconds with the bigger bolt cutter (needs a partial cut first hence you cut it twice), or in 80 seconds with a portable angle grinder.
@@AstralS7ormso would you say a 10mm bike chain is a safe purchase? Or should a higher mm chain be used?
Abus are only good in marketing. They did nothing to innovate in bike security with all the resources they have. As opposed to some small Brit companies like Litelock or Pragmasis. Abus will never get my money!
@@eclecticaroThose are good companies...
It's 4:47 am but my brain is like just one more video
I got problems man
Quality
M2 LMAOOOO
I have this same chain six feet of it and after watching this video I now know it's six feet of junk and a big thank you I can not replace my ebike. But I can replace the chain
My ex boyfriend stole bikes for his heroin habit. This is why you lock your bike up with the chain not near the ground… Bike locking 101. Also for massive bolt cutter they’re $180+ USD so the addicts that steal bikes sell tools that expensive and don’t have them. And they’re massive and don’t fit in a backpack. Also this is an 8mm hardened steel chain. Try 10mm and with the chain off the ground, you won’t be able to cut them since you can’t use your weight.
Also if you do use a u lock u the mini ones because the big ones you can switch them off with a long pipe/rebar.
Thanks, this real world advice is great.
Would you be able to cut it without using the floor?
probably not.
If you want good security chains get at least 16mm and hardened. Then only a grinder is going to get through it.
that abus chain lock was 7mm thick easy to cut with that tool cutter.
Yes it was
Anything under 12mm is easy for 42” croppers, if it’s 12mm and properly hardened it is tough to impossible to get through.
12mm…
Yeah, think that alone must be enough on the next Shoppingtour, enough weight…😅
@@Eddy_E. would you say 12mm is the minimum size required for a safe bicycle lock? Is 10mm not strong enough at all? I’ve also been told 14mm or above is best or atleast 12mm for extra security. I’m just curious for my own bike safety?
@@dylwaybake Use two locks on your bike, such as a U-lock like the Abus X-Granite and a 10mm chain like Kryptonite Evolution 1090. If your bike is not very expensive, thieves won't bother with two locks.
Only looks to be about 6mm chain links which is tiny, wouldn't secure a £200 pedal bike with that!
An argument for U locks?
Some U bolt style locks stand up to bolt cutters and some don't and making the distinction between the size of bolt cutters is worthwhile as the smaller ones can be much more easily carried, are more commonly used in most scenarios, cost less and conceal easier.
Also not using the ground with cutters is much harder.
But still...
Given that the brand was ABUS, square shaped links and hardened, I would have assumed, this is very disappointing especially the cut with the smaller pair of bolt cutters.
Maybe the chain wasn't hardened security chain but the color and square shape would indicate that it was... generally...
so it's quite disappointing and disillusioning...
I'm pleased you used a big and small pair of bolt cutters as its an important distinction.
Is this the granite x version of the lock? It seems the one you tested had the lowest security rating.
Worthless because it does not say which model of lock this is....
It’s worthless alright
Exacly
It's pretty easy the only sell one 6 mm of this type
Some say,a chain's only as strong as it's weakest link.
Those bolt cutters are Ginormous. No bike thieves walk around with those...
they walk around with angle grinders.
@@src-swift those cheeky sods 😏
I think you didn’t mention if this is 4ks 6ks 8ks .. since abus has many levels
I didn't mention it because I don't know!
@@bootsowen I’m your opinion what level do you think this is?
Judging by the ease with which it was cut I hope it was the lowest!
@@bootsowen I hope, I have the 8ks and hold all my tools with a 12f long
Which lock did you try here? I mean Abus has different security levels and there might be a difference
This one is black.
What abus chain lock is that?
This show that no bike is safe
Pretty discouraging. Seems the best way to go is with the U style locks.
U locks are better, but I have posted a video using the same tool to snip through a kryptonite. It was more difficult but once I had a purchase on it it cut it. I see a lock as insurance for my trip home. If my bike was so good that I didn't want to lose it then I would just bring it in. I guess some people don't have that option.
I'm thinking both haha. A U-lock and a chain lock would surely deter thieves in public though I think most passerbys would be too scared to approach some meth head that has a gigantic tool.
Well but you wont have this scenario in real life.. The lock will be on bike so you will not be able to rest that tool on ground like that and push with your weight... I think the result might be different when you have to actually hold that tool in both hands, just to have access to the lock on the bike....
Actually, U-locks are easier to defeat. But if you want decent protection, you need to buy a much better lock. The lock in this particular video is not a good one.
@@smajl2 It won't. The cutters are long enough to get a purchase on the lock and still be able to rest one handle on the ground.
cutting on the ground is always an easy thing ...
Это 6 мм а как на счет 8 мм с тем же болтарезом? This is 6 mm, but how about 8 mm with the same bolt cutter?
Once I had an abus bike lock, and the key was made of such soft material that it bent while twisting it and broke off in the lock eventually.
Yep same happened to me
How is on fingers and toes
So are you saying U-locks are better than chains? Can they also be cut with bolt cutters?
Some U bolt style locks stand up to bolt cutters and some don't and making the distinction between the size of bolt cutters is worthwhile as the smaller ones can be much more easily carried and are more commonly used in most scenarios.
Given that the brand was ABUS, square shaped links and hardened I would have assumed this is very disappointing especially the cut with the smaller pair of bolt cutters...
Maybe the chain wasn't hardened security chain but the color and square shape would indicate that it was... generally...
so it's quite disappointing and disillusioning...
You just save me money dude, I WAS NEARLY wanted to buy ABUS... Damn it disappointed with ABUS fuck up weak chain..
You get what you pay for!
@@bootsowen not true.. You can spend $20 at home depot for some harded chain and a way better lock for less than this abus
I must have been mistaken, Ok, at home Depot you don't get what you pay for.
Show us another 6mm chain that will fare better then ;-)
butter
(1) , you must bring the croppers on street and let everyone see you are going to break the chain ........... (2) no police see your croppers and stop you for investigation
Maybe that is a video you should make?
@@bootsowen GMBN has this TH-cam video
When you pull the chain out of the black sleeve it kind of ruins the test for me. The lock does have that sleeve in order to make it just a bit harder to get it off, so why didnt you try and cut through the fabric as well?
I heard of a guy who used an extension cord as a bike lock, plugging it into itself to lock it. Why didn't I try to cut through the fabric? Only so that I would ruin the test for you: the thief with no scissors.
The sleeve is to protect your bike from scratches from the chain, not to protect the chain from being cut.
Is this the abus iones 8900??
the chain is never on the floor to use your weight on it. Test it properly dude
Why don’t you make us a video and show us how it’s done.
@@bootsowen I don't need to.
If the chain is 1 meter off the ground you only can use the strength of your arms, not your body weight. Is not that easy to cut a decent chain with your arms strength and an average tool.
I wouldn't call this a decent chain.
@@bootsowen OK try it. Use your tool and try to cut it using only your arms strength, not body weight.
I guess you can but probably will take a while
Shit, I just bought this.
4mm ?
Is this CITYCHAIN 1010 lock?
uuhh. you won against a mini chain. congratulations.
Thanks
Fuck me. That lock is like 150£ at least. Weighs 1.5kg.
Bottom line - Keep the Irish away from your bike!
Bottom line: Follow your fuehrer into the ground, Prod scum.
I reckon, most people won't be dangling this on the ground when they lock their bike up and the amount of bike thefts in my town are astronomical (Terrace, BC) and all the homeless crackheads in town that steal bikes are built like a scare crow.
"Homeless crackheads"...talk about your reductive language, Tory a-hole.
This test is useless..it didn't state the specs of the chain and nobody locks a bike where the chain is close to the ground to help cut the chain...
Having a bad day?
@@bootsowen nope you need to do over your test tho😜
Which abus lock is that
Looks like a very low security rating one, probably only about 6mm links, thats not safe for use on anything.
Mm of chain?
Uraltes Schloss und nur auf dem Boden geknackt. So sichert doch keiner sein Fahrrad.
I don't know what the chain is but let's test it. What a waste of time
Not real world usage to cut a chain and steal a bike. More of a bolt cutter demo.
Abust
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