@@Signmonkey So here we are 2 years later and no data. Anyway, there is so much more power to be captured from that water than you're catching. You guys and your V-belts. Not sure why so many people like to give up horse power to V-belts.
@@selahman1074 Yes that belt. I would go with a serpentine belt if I had no choice but to use a belt. Those V-belts rob a lot of power. Especially as torque increases. The best alternative would be a gear box. Yes they cost more but they last much longer, require less maintenance, and your power output would be greater. V-belt loss can be as much 175watts on a 25amp draw even with proper belt tension. That's a lot on micro hydro systems. Not just due to creeping/slipping but also friction. The absolute best would be direct drive. I'm not sure if that's applicable with an Archimedes as they turn so slow. The alternator would have to be much larger in diameter to be effective at low rpm's for direct drive.
I am Australian but this year was in the UK for 10 weeks and visited Cragside, the country home built by William Armstrong, a 19th century industrial giant, now run by the National Trust This house was the first house in England to have electrical power, generated by his own Archimedes screw just like yours. It powers the whole house, completely off grid, over 240 LED light globes, refrigerators and computers etc. The comments decrying the worth of such an installation obviously do not understand physics in general or gravity in particular!
I was fascinated by this as a kid and remember seeing films where Egyptians watered their fields using the same age old technology, its refreshing to see it hasn't been lost and is still pertinent today. Its what in the U.K. we refer to as low technology but to see modern applications is great to see.
If we knew the flow rate and the height the water falls we could at least get a general idea. These screws aren't very efficient due to drag. Now that I think about it I doubt it even makes a single horsepower.
Actually, in most mountainous areas creeks still keep flowing at least a little when winter comes, it might be less than a third of what it is normally, and a tenth of summer melt flows but it still chooches!
Great project, beautiful turbine ! It would be really useful to others if power produced, flow rate and the screw dimensions were given. From looking at it while running, I guesstimate a power output of 400 watts. Here is how I guesstimated: Generated Power (watts) = electrical (generator cables, convertors etc) efficiency 80%) x turbine efficiency (50%) x water flow rate (0.05 m^3/sec= 50 liters/sec) x total head (2 m = length(4m) x Sine(30deg)) x density of water (1000kg/m^3) x gravitational acceleration (9.8 m/sec^2)) =0.8x 0.5x0.05x2.0x1000x9.8 = 398 watts. Turbine efficiency can be significantly more or less than 50% depending on the details of the design. Water flow rate is the primary uncertainty. I would love to know how close my guess is !
Really cool! Nice job--I wanted to do this years ago while living next to an abandoned mill foundation--the spillway was just screaming to be harnessed into a bit of energy.
I think this is a GREAT video. I agree with mikhaelis that it would be nice to know how much power you are producing per day or week. And the DIY of how you made your screw and what type of generator you are using on it. For homesteaders this idea is of great importance. I hope you would do a video on the building of it. Thanks.
This is really neat, I have always wanted to build something that does exactly what you have it doing at one of the creeks on my dads farm so this is a really interesting concept to me
You could see it was running a car alternator, so it not producing massive amounts , and notice how much load was coming off when he unplugged those two things alone give fair estimate of production, well done nice project
Beautiful design that can heat up an infrared sauna and the green house too :-) Basically free heating and free light for the home. We can be happy about it !
Pardon my language Sir! But this is Badass! I'm a free energy seeking individual and if I had property and a creek, I'm definitely doing this. Thanks for the share.
You shouldn't call it free energy, because that means something else. This is just a form of solar power, which is great stuff, but doesn't break any laws of physics. :)
kwb it produces aprox. 2.5 lbs of screws daily depending on screw type, however metric threads take longer as the screw producer has to turn in metric intervals to produce nessessary voltplunges for the wtf'er.
awesome . First one I've seen using a screw . I am curious as to how efficient it is compared to something like an overshot wheel or a nozzle jet powered pelton wheel .
Hi Sign Monkey! I have a question. I was looking through the comments and saw that you made this screw yourself. I was wondering how exactly you did that or what process you used to model/design it and also what material it is made of? I am currently a senior in university and working on a graduation project and would like to implement an Archimedes screw into the design. I am trying to gather information on how to get/build a screw this size. Thanks! Also, awesome video and idea!
Would be great to know how much electricity you're producing with it. Also, with the generator unplugged how much effort it takes to stop the screw turning. I reckon it would have a load of torque. Nice video.
This application can be applied to wave generators with water level riser stacks where air pressure+wave crash momentum raises the water inside to drip down.
How well does the screen work for debris and fish protection? Looks pretty decent I live out west where both of these issues are big. Good design though
Cut him some slack folks. No good deed of presenting a neat power generation idea to the off grid, techie community, will ever go un-punished, without full disclosure. An excellent demonstration in my opinion. It will be interesting to see how it performs over time and yes if you could provide some output information. That would be very interesting to hear. I imagine that grit or small stones may be an issue. Possibly wedging between the screw and casing. Have you had any issues with this?
it caught me by surprise also to see it being used in reverse, I like the concept and would like to take a little more in depth look at the process and possibilities.
That unit looked awfully well made for some cobble-up. Is this a repurposed lift screw rig? If not, how about a vid on how it was made in your home shop?
I suspect it's not as efficient as a pail wheel or some other design. But, it sure is cool. I like the clear plastic top so you could see it in motion. And like other people, we want the speeds and feeds and how did you make it.
Increase the head available at the input of the blade, flow rate is ok. You will get more power than that. As power = ρgQHη Where ρ = density η = Efficiency of turbine g = acceleration due to gravity Q = discharge of flow H = net head available at the inlet of turbine Increase H, increase power
For those of us who are a bit more technical, some data on voltage and amperage plus calculated wattage would have been the most interesting part.
Next time
I was JUST about to ask... LOL..
@@Signmonkey So here we are 2 years later and no data. Anyway, there is so much more power to be captured from that water than you're catching. You guys and your V-belts. Not sure why so many people like to give up horse power to V-belts.
Bob Nesbitt Are you speaking of the belt between the drive shaft and alternator looking thing? What is a better belt alternative?
@@selahman1074 Yes that belt. I would go with a serpentine belt if I had no choice but to use a belt. Those V-belts rob a lot of power. Especially as torque increases. The best alternative would be a gear box. Yes they cost more but they last much longer, require less maintenance, and your power output would be greater. V-belt loss can be as much 175watts on a 25amp draw even with proper belt tension. That's a lot on micro hydro systems. Not just due to creeping/slipping but also friction. The absolute best would be direct drive. I'm not sure if that's applicable with an Archimedes as they turn so slow. The alternator would have to be much larger in diameter to be effective at low rpm's for direct drive.
It's an amazing thought that a human from 2,500 years ago is still having an impact on our lives, great job utilizing such interesting technology
truth is timeless
I am Australian but this year was in the UK for 10 weeks and visited Cragside, the country home built by William Armstrong, a 19th century industrial giant, now run by the National Trust This house was the first house in England to have electrical power, generated by his own Archimedes screw just like yours. It powers the whole house, completely off grid, over 240 LED light globes, refrigerators and computers etc. The comments decrying the worth of such an installation obviously do not understand physics in general or gravity in particular!
I just saw that house on TV last night. I would love to go see it. What ironic timing..
Great workmanship you just see this is built by a craftsman. Keep us posted on any updates to the project.
This is freaking AWESOME!, now tutorial and how much energy it actually produces. THANKS!!
I was fascinated by this as a kid and remember seeing films where Egyptians watered their fields using the same age old technology, its refreshing to see it hasn't been lost and is still pertinent today. Its what in the U.K. we refer to as low technology but to see modern applications is great to see.
Nice setup .buddy!...really interesting. You have plenty of water over there. But building by yourselves is a plus!. Thanks for taking the time.
Fascinating, even without the data. Many thanks, SignMonkey. ♥
Might actually be interesting if you post how much it produces.
It "might" be able to run my computer setup. About 1KW or less under load.
If we knew the flow rate and the height the water falls we could at least get a general idea. These screws aren't very efficient due to drag. Now that I think about it I doubt it even makes a single horsepower.
I'm canadian. I'm nice.
Actually, in most mountainous areas creeks still keep flowing at least a little when winter comes, it might be less than a third of what it is normally, and a tenth of summer melt flows but it still chooches!
Bio Power it's flowing?
Great project, beautiful turbine !
It would be really useful to others if power produced, flow rate and the screw dimensions were given.
From looking at it while running, I guesstimate a power output of 400 watts.
Here is how I guesstimated:
Generated Power (watts) = electrical (generator cables, convertors etc) efficiency 80%) x turbine efficiency (50%) x water flow rate (0.05 m^3/sec= 50 liters/sec) x total head (2 m = length(4m) x Sine(30deg)) x density of water (1000kg/m^3) x gravitational acceleration (9.8 m/sec^2))
=0.8x 0.5x0.05x2.0x1000x9.8
= 398 watts.
Turbine efficiency can be significantly more or less than 50% depending on the details of the design. Water flow rate is the primary uncertainty.
I would love to know how close my guess is !
Thanks for sharing some fine work on a useful project.
Really cool! Nice job--I wanted to do this years ago while living next to an abandoned mill foundation--the spillway was just screaming to be harnessed into a bit of energy.
Go to it Carl!
I would need to get so many approvals to do this where I live. That thing is cool. Not terribly efficient, but excellent demo.
A very good design and executed micro hydro electric project! Well done👍
I think this is a GREAT video. I agree with mikhaelis that it would be nice to know how much power you are producing per day or week. And the DIY of how you made your screw and what type of generator you are using on it. For homesteaders this idea is of great importance. I hope you would do a video on the building of it. Thanks.
Oh wow!! This is a nice lil set up you have here. You could easily add onto it and generate a nice amount of electricity.
This is really neat, I have always wanted to build something that does exactly what you have it doing at one of the creeks on my dads farm so this is a really interesting concept to me
I plan on building a simple one with a video that shows you how to build it.
@@Signmonkey Is the video on How to build it available?
You could see it was running a car alternator, so it not producing massive amounts , and notice how much load was coming off when he unplugged those two things alone give fair estimate of production, well done nice project
GOTTA LOVE ALL THE EXPERT ADVICE. THE THING IS YOU'VE ACTUALLY BUILT A WORKING MODEL. GREAT JOB !
Thanks Jeffrey
Brilliant, what a lovely place, thanks for the lesson
Beautiful design that can heat up an infrared sauna and the green house too :-)
Basically free heating and free light for the home. We can be happy about it !
Pardon my language Sir! But this is Badass! I'm a free energy seeking individual and if I had property and a creek, I'm definitely doing this. Thanks for the share.
You shouldn't call it free energy, because that means something else. This is just a form of solar power, which is great stuff, but doesn't break any laws of physics. :)
Yes, that's what I'm hoping build one day.
Pablo Pérez
your work is quite admirable, thanks.
Hey there boss I absolutely love what you done I love your video I enjoy science and I look forward to seeing future projects
Very cool! Way to make good use of a small drop!
Great! The water’s weight pressing continually against the entire length of the screw...much pressure achieved.
Thank you for your time and effort.
Awesome
Great Job
As a pipe fitter I can really appreciate this
Thanks!
Sign Monkey
Now make it go up hill like he did
Or
Did he
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This is a great idea now to convert my old grain auger and give it a try
Great fun, cool vid. We could run that off of any header tank or dam etc too.
i dont get it, where are the screws collected? how many screws does this generate an hour?
kwb at least they are nice and clean...
Screw you !
kwb it produces aprox. 2.5 lbs of screws daily depending on screw type, however metric threads take longer as the screw producer has to turn in metric intervals to produce nessessary voltplunges for the wtf'er.
Lol
Love that much...
Very cool. Wish i had a flowing stream at my offgrid property
Thank you sir I understand alot more now pretty flippin cool 👍
One can only imagine the torque it delivers.
Nice job - that's a really nice system!
Very clever and thanks for posting and the best of luck!
awesome . First one I've seen using a screw . I am curious as to how efficient it is compared to something like an overshot wheel or a nozzle jet powered pelton wheel .
Awesome. I would have thought some 1 inch walls on the screws blades would help hold onto the water longer increasing the output.
Hi Sign Monkey! I have a question. I was looking through the comments and saw that you made this screw yourself. I was wondering how exactly you did that or what process you used to model/design it and also what material it is made of? I am currently a senior in university and working on a graduation project and would like to implement an Archimedes screw into the design. I am trying to gather information on how to get/build a screw this size. Thanks! Also, awesome video and idea!
Would be great to know how much electricity you're producing with it. Also, with the generator unplugged how much effort it takes to stop the screw turning. I reckon it would have a load of torque. Nice video.
Love it. Thank you for the idea
This application can be applied to wave generators with water level riser stacks where air pressure+wave crash momentum raises the water inside to drip down.
Good on you. I always thought that Archimedes screw was a water lifter.
Great build thank you.
How much head does that system have? It looks like it is nearly level from intake to screw but that may just be the hill screwing with my perspective
Did you ever make a video explaining how it was built and where you got your parts?
Very nice. Would a flywheel help keep the momentum going and negate the load drop?
I think that Small Hydropower systems will be the future of energy generation. Another similar system is the Turbolence Hydro.
Id like to know how much energy you get from this. And do you think there might have been a more efficient design you could have used ?
Great work, do you have a video for winter scenario?
How well does the screen work for debris and fish protection? Looks pretty decent I live out west where both of these issues are big. Good design though
"come up with crazy inventions" yet you acknowledged that Archimedes invented this, gj though. glad it works
Cut him some slack folks. No good deed of presenting a neat power generation idea to the off grid, techie community, will ever go un-punished, without full disclosure.
An excellent demonstration in my opinion. It will be interesting to see how it performs over time and yes if you could provide some output information. That would be very interesting to hear. I imagine that grit or small stones may be an issue. Possibly wedging between the screw and casing. Have you had any issues with this?
Nowhere did it occur to you to mention how many watts it generated?
How many Amps and at what volts.... likely 12v at between 10 and 40 Amps..
@@bobhoward9016 120 volt, he said when hooked up the drill. nothing about amps though
very cool! How many watts are you pulling on a day like that? and how many watts do you get on an average low flow day?
TQ Sir GOD bless you family and business
For everyone asking, it produces 1.21 gigawatts! Enough to power 10 million light bulbs or 1 Flux Capacitor.
that’s heavy
Like I’m Back to the Future. 😂👍
🤣🤣🤣
It’s strange how there aren’t more of these.
There is 30 KWh Archimedes screw generator in a village near me. Paid for by a group of folks who now use this power.
presses the button of the drill, the whole creek grinds to a screeching halt
It is my dream to live in please where is a stream like this. Lucky You.
interesting idea. What did you use for the screw?
Very cool! Makes me jealous!
It’s a more simple idea dose the same job as some others I’ve seen , do you have snow and ice problems
sweet set up
I guess you have to stop it before cold weather starts. Wow.
1:26 a rare sight of a screw powered drill in the wild
Yeah i guess the person operating the electricity generator could be called an electric screw driver??
Hope you told your wife beforehand that you were going to pull the cable out to demo something..nice to see great diy project in action!
What is the max power produced ? How did you make the screw ? Many thanks for the video
The screw was conceived as a water-lifter.
The way you are using it, just makes it a curious Impediment to water flow
it caught me by surprise also to see it being used in reverse, I like the concept and would like to take a little more in depth look at the process and possibilities.
Do you have any info on water flow, amount of electricity produced? Interesting concept
Nice setup, thanks
That is a great invention that would definitely power the world one day thank you for sharing
What's your gpm flow rate through the screw?
if you give the screw blade a cup shape would it work better? I was just thinking that if it could hold more water it would have more pushing on it.
Can you put a link or video on how did you build that and where did you bought the spiral blade and what is the best motor for hydroelectric energy.
Would love to know where they got the screw or did they make it?
what alternator did you use and what's your pulley ratio?
you left put the most important part which is why the screw? Does it give you an advantage over just a straight fall into a paddle wheel?
Very good idea sir👍
That is pretty damn cool. 😊
Hello my friend!
What’s the most power (watts) you got out of your turbine?
I would belt a bigger gear and from there another small gear to triple or quad the output. What do u think?
Sweet, I love creativity
Good ole Archimedes! He invented the screw!
That unit looked awfully well made for some cobble-up. Is this a repurposed lift screw rig? If not, how about a vid on how it was made in your home shop?
I suspect it's not as efficient as a pail wheel or some other design. But, it sure is cool. I like the clear plastic top so you could see it in motion. And like other people, we want the speeds and feeds and how did you make it.
how and where have you got the yellow screw? 3D printing?
Don't know where you live ,but how good does it work in winter were it snows?
Holy steady cam Batman. Puked before I could see anything
The screw is beautiful ! How did you build it
What kind of torque does it end up producing? It's extremely intriguing but is it practical?
That's great good work
What kind of power do you get off that? Volts and Amps? Well done!
Beautiful
Increase the head available at the input of the blade, flow rate is ok.
You will get more power than that.
As power = ρgQHη
Where
ρ = density
η = Efficiency of turbine
g = acceleration due to gravity
Q = discharge of flow
H = net head available at the inlet of turbine
Increase H, increase power
Where did you get the screw and what is it made of ?
That is really cool!!
How many watts are you getting out of this?