I measure 10 on the Brannock. I wear 9 in Iron Ranger and Moc toe. The Moc toe was snug but eventually broke in. I had trouble with the work Chukka, though. A 9.5 was painfully narrow and tight. Finally I gave them a warm water soak and put them on. They now fit perfectly. I wouldn't hesitate to soak a Red Wing that just won't break in. Condition them afterwards.
Very good video, CJ! Congrats. There is a lot of myth and crazy rules about sizing Red Wing boots. The gentleman who assists CJ at the Red Wing store (wonderful place I had the pleasure of visiting) says what I consider key to reaching the ideal size: your toes should not touch the front of your boot, even slightly. . On long walks this can result in a world of pain. Thus, in my experience the most reliable measure is the Japanese in cm that appears inside the boot. After all, no boots will stretch lengthwise. My feet measure 27.5 cm, so all my 7 pairs are 9.5. Of course, my foot is narrow. But Red Wing boots can be purchased in different widths. The ideal is to try it in a store, but if not possible, follow the Japanese measure. Take care!
I followed the Japanese measurement on my other shoes too. My red wing size 7 (25cm) perfectly fits on me. I also have chucks in size 8, so just size down to 7 for red wing for another comparison.
This was probably the most helpful out of every Reddit discussion, TH-cam video and Article I could find on sizing. Now I might be able to rest easy knowing I got the right size. Thank you Sergio!
I highly recommend adding the 1907s to your collection before you "quit" lol. I wear them almost daily to work as a plumber, they're the most comfy of all my boots.
I always enjoy your reviews. I don’t know how I would switch out 59 pairs of boots 🤣. I actually got my first pair of IR amber today. I’m glad I was fit in the redwing store. They had a double braneck. I know I spelled it wrong. In any event, I went with an 11 1/2 D. My right foot is slightly longer. Also my toes are weird, and my two middle toes are longer than my big toe. I guess I measured 12, but sized down a half size. I tried on the E width, which felt a bit loose. I wore them out of the store, and they weren’t horrible as many people complain about. I know they need to break in, but I have worn work boots daily for years. I think some people are not used to boots. I also wear compression socks, and they are thin. I don’t usually lace up to the top hook on my 8” boots. I wore them out of the store, and drove for about an hour, with no complaints. Since you obviously have history, do you usually lace your boots up to the top hook? Thanks again for the knowledge and entertaining videos.
I thought I'd put in my two cents. I went to my local redwing store and I got digitally scanned. My left foot measured 10.2 and right foot measured exactly 10 with my feet having a "C" width. Redwing says to purchase a half size down but I had to go a full size down. I believe because I had narrow feet I had to go a full size down. And let me tell u they fit absolutely perfect. Had I had regular "D" width feet I think I would be just fine buying a half size down. My blacksmiths and my IR's are a size 9. Now here's another thing. My moc toes 9075's are 9.5 so the shoe sizes are definitely all over the place. I guess the shoe lasts make a huge difference. Hope this helps.
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for making this. I have the same exact brannock size and I've hovered between 8.5 and 9 heritage sizing, which has been a little frustrating. This is by far the best heritage fitting video I've seen! Saved and shared to my boot buddies.
Chris C me too. I have the blacksmiths in a size 9 and they fit okay. The ball of my foot fits in the widest part of the shoe so I think that’s the size I should wear.
Chris C ... as I tried lots of red wings too, the most disappointing fact is, that two pairs of the same boots can have totally different width and fit if they are from a different worker or batch. I tried loggers from two different sources at the same time and if I wanted to have one good pair I would have to mix both pairs. at one pair the left foot was fitting and from the other pair, the right. but at the right foot the heel was shaped badly. so try from different sources or try a second pair or a different color to get a good fit.
@@alx252 Had the same experience with my 875. The right shoes is a little smaller than the left one. The right shoe was probably built tighter on the last than the left shoe.
Im a true size 10.5 ee. I went in to a redwing store today and got measured. Ive owned many redwing boots. In this style I tried a 10 all the way down to a 8.5 ee and the heel fit was surprisingly perfect in all sizes which is a key factor in a good fitting boot. Since they felt great in the heel I almost bought the size 9.5 but I started to think about how much space there was in the toe box, particularly the space between my longest toe in relation to when it would touch the front. Size 8.5 put my toes closer together but since im a ee I would have probably been fine, but I didnt want to risk it. I probably would have been fine even in a 10.5, but then I would have had two inches of space if not more left over. Maybe thats why they say they look like clown shoes. 🤨 Size 9 ee put my toes about 1 fingers width away from reaching the tip of the shoe in the toe box. Size 9 ee is my size in Iron Rangers. I would suggest you try smaller sizes than you are used to in this style. Once you wear the heritage series outside, redwing will not let you exchange them for a smaller size. Hope this helps.
As I have a 10.5ee foot they sized me for an 11d because of no wide boots available at that moment. I wear the same size for my thorogoods and most shoes so I say I fit pretty true to size on redwing heritage boots.
I am a 10.5 EE on sneakers, Red Wing measured me on a 9EE. I bought the Rovers Rough and Tough on a 9D, since it doesn't come wide. I tried the 9.5D since 9D was TIGHT, but the ball area, in front of the arch, was not aligned with the boot properly and the boot was loose on the back when properly sitting the ball in the boot. There were hot spots when breaking the boots-- which was expected since I am wide and they are new, but never got blisters on my feet. The first day was kinda rough, second day was much better, now they fit like a comfortable glove with plenty of wiggle room on the toes. You can break them in slowly, or wear them on days you won't be doing a whole lot of heavy walking. If you struggle getting the boot in, get a shoe horn, makes everything significantly easier and won't struggle getting new boots in.
My experience was different. On the Brannock device, my foot length was 9, but my instep was 10 (Brannock recommends taking the larger of the two measurements). Width was squarely between a D and E. Because they didn’t have wide widths in the style I wanted, I ended up in a size 9.5 D in both I.R. and Beckman. Both fit well.
How wide is your foot? Mine is 11cm wide and I have ironranger 8.5 us size. And it is too tight barely move my feet inside and getting blisters. Should I go for wide one? Please suggest
Idk, I usually wear size 11 and my iron ranger 8083 is in 11 and feels perfect, I don’t know what that sizing down thing is about, everyone is talking about but on my Red Wings I find no issues there.
Best video I've seen explaining this situation with redwing boots. My first pair are a size 9 I'm usually an 11. Now I'm all confused about mt shoe size
I don't understand how you can be a size and half down, and go to a wider width? That doesn't make any sense?? I have had my foot measured and fitted at Red Wing. I measure a 10.5 on the Brannock, and I size down to a 10D and they fit fine in the 8 last. The width is just right and I have a half a thumbnail in length. I couldn't imagine going down that small, unless there is a small, small difference in lengths? The one that is perplexing me...is how can your width be different?
The Red Wing salesman was super knowledgeable! I have some IR's that are too big after being sized at a Red Wing store in KC. After googling sizing I knew it was gonna be a lot different than buying other boots. The salesman didn't seem to concerned about my size after the Brannock device test. I had to ask them for a half size down and after a few weeks they're too big 🤦♂️
@@CJCook I'd love to see you do a video and ask people to comment their Brannock device size and what size they actually wear. I think it would be helpful
I really wish they made more wide widths. Would love a wider Beckman or Blacksmith. The 8 last is so long and narrow, having wider sizes only makes sense.
@@CJCook I hope Red Wing appreciates the work you’re doing for them, man. I bought my first pair of Red Wings yesterday, 3345 Blacksmiths. I wear 8.5E in Allen Edmonds and 9E in Quoddy, and an 8E would have been perfect in the Blacksmiths. Had to settle for an 8.5 that’s snug across but a little long. Will add those tri comforts you talked about in another video. Thanks for all the advice! Love your channel and your positivity!
Great information, thanks. But II am 8 in Nike sneakers so I don’t think a 7 would fit me in a Moc toe, that’s a big bummer because they don’t have them on their website in anything smaller than that.
Question for CJ: I normally buy a size 10 for almost all shoes and boots. Bear in mind, this is for a wide variety of shoe styles, buying comparatively inexpensive shoes and selecting them self-serve off the shelves with no formal measuring. I've always felt like I have a "medium" foot, subjectively, but my pinky toes often bulge the side of the shoe out. I sometimes wonder if I might actually be "wide". Most of the shoes I've had that feel comfortable, end up having a wee bit of extra room in the end of the shoe, past the toes. I'm considering ordering the Roughneck boots with moc toe and vibram sole. I don't use my boots for occupation, but do a wide variety of DIY carpentry, landscape work, hiking around with dogs, etc. With the stores here in Michigan closed due to Covid-19 rules, what size do you think I should order considering I don't have the option of getting properly fitted, and I am ready to order my first premium boots, and don't think I have the patience to keep waiting for things to open up?
LOLOLOLOL !!! I paused early in the video to post that question. After watching the whole thing, it's like you answered my question in the video. You even featured the same boot I'm looking at! I'm probably a half size longer than you, so my best guess is that a 9.5 E would be pretty close.
This is accurate. That’s a knowledgeable Red Wing salesman. Beware non-urban Red Wing salesman that do not sell many of the Heritage line. They almost always put you in a larger size. I wear size 10 in most shoes and my IRs are 8.5.
100% accurate. I just went into a Red Wings store. I wear a 11.5D Thursday boot Captain. In the 875 moc toe, I was fitted for a 10D. I dunno if I have been wearing my boots big my whole life or just a Red Wing sizing thing.
My sneaker size is 10. I have IR and blacksmith in 9.5D. Initially they were snug but now they seem a little roomy. I wished I had gone in the store and probably get expert advice. However, I saw your video on adding insoles and I think that should do the trick, so I ordered the insoles you recommended. I tried other insoles and they seem to create a snug fit.
Unfortunate that you bought them too large. Mine felt so tight at some points during the long break in I was afraid they were a half size too small. They are just beginning to feel perfectly broken in and they feel amazing! I fully understand the almost religious following of Iron Rangers. The support they give once molded is indescribably comfortable. My sneaker size is 10-10 1/2 and my Iron Ranger size is nine.
I think i got the same size with you! My usually size of last 8 is 9 D, I own a pair of 8890 in 8.5 E and it is very comfortable! Also, i had a pair of 8102 in 8.5 D and i am still breaking in now...
Do you have the iron rangers in 8.5 or 9 ? If both how would you say they fit ? I bought them online and took a full size down from my Brannock but not sure if I should have tried a size and a half down instead.
@@CJCook oh ok, just want to avoid the clown shoe look and I know in another of your videos you mentioned that’s usually because people get a size too big. All the same love your videos and feedback it’s much appreciated!
Also measure a 10D on the Red Wing Brannock, I wear out the Red Wing guys when it comes to fit, both the iron ranger and the moc toe I fit a 9.5d, I have a pair of insulated supersole 2.0 #2416 in a 9EEE the now discontinued CRV 4423 my motorcycle boot in 9D and lineman 2450 are in 9D as well. Got some Chelsea boots on order, will see how they go.
Hey CJ, I just got into red wings and quality boots in general and your channel has been really enjoyable and helpful for me starting out. Being that you're just slightly under 10 on the brannock, I'm curious as how size 8.5 iron rangers fit you. I've seen you with multiple size 9 IRs so I'm figuring you like that fit better but maybe you like both sizes for different reasons. I'm just slightly under a 9 on the brannock and bought both size 7.5 and 8 IRs and am having trouble deciding which one feels better. When it comes to half size differences I'm finding it pretty tough to gauge. Thanks for helping us all out lol
@@CJCook Appreciate your help sir! One last question, do you think there's a chance the oxblood colorway every comes back for the IRs? By the time I learned about red wings it seems that model was already discontinued.
The big toe goes just a bit OVER the 10 line at 4:25. It literally obscures part of the line. Why is he calling that "just under 10 . . . nine and three quarters"?
I hope I didn't f up and waste a bunch of money. I bought the IR copper in an 8.5. The salesperson talked me into it without measuring on the brannock. I wear 10s in most Nikes and 9s in chuck taylors. I read online, and the salesgirl told me that it should be tight. I haven't worn them a ton, but knew that I wanted to also get them in black during their black Friday sale. It was a zoo in there during the sale, but the salesperson that day measured me on the brannock, but just for length. He didn't do the width or the ball or big toe knuckle assessment. This was at 8 a.m., and I was a 9.5 on the brannock. Been trying to break the blacks in lately, and notice that the squeeze I'm getting on the pinky toes are a bit uncomfortable and possibly too tight. I've never had to break boots in before, so I don't know. I've only worn them for 8 hours twice, and a few hours on three or four more occasions. So I'm sure they're far from being broken in. I think I tried the 9's in the copper, and the salesgirl that helped me thought there was too much space in the material above the foot(between the laces and toe cap), as if my foot wasn't thick enough to fill it in. Obviously it's too late now to exchange for the 9s because of their policy. Will the squeezing on the pinky toes loosen up after more wear? I need to wear both the copper and the blacks more. Would be a damn shame if over $600 worth of boots end up being a waste.
I hope you’re right because I feel the squeeze. It’s not overly painful, but definitely uncomfortable. I also feel some pain in the foot, like the foot is being squeezed so much that the bones are being compressed. Hopefully it expands with time. Seems like most forums say boots won’t expand too much, and if it’s hurting from the squeeze/tightness, it’s not a good sign.
CJ Cook went on a four mile hike over rocky terrain and some decent elevation. The feet are destroyed, especially at the pinky toes. I don’t think my feet are overly wide. Like I said, I measured a 9.5 on the brannock on an early morning measure. They only did one foot, so I suppose it’s possible the other foot is slightly larger. A lot of threads suggest a cobbler can stretch it out. Just bummed that I dropped so much dough, and might have to spend more with no guarantees of them being an enjoyable fit. Did you or do you deal with a devastating break in whenever you break in a new pair of 8.5s?
I wore a pair of 8046 Roughnecks in a US10 for about 3-4 months almost daily and the leather got super soft but still they crushed my little toe on one foot when i walked & they were too painful, i now have a pair of 875's in a 10.5 and they feel better but i have to tie the laces super close, its a bummer
CJ great show and tell upload. The RR SA was spot on. I'm a 9.5 on the brannock device 10d in sneakers and 8.5d on the 8 last. 9d on the 23 last. I would add that initially the boots will feel tight but after they break in they loosen up quite a bit width wise for a very comfortable fit (secure heel cup, snug (not tight) vamp, perfect amount or room in the toe box). It's no wonder you have so many pairs.
Don't listen to their Sales people. Listen to your feet. If the boot is too tight go up if its too loose go down. REDWING SALESPEOPLE are not your feet.
The leather of Redwing boots is extremely thick and rigid. It can be extremely off putting if you haven't been through the process of breaking them in before. As you wear them the heat from your feet and movement from walking stretches, softens and moulds the leather to your feet. This is why they should feel almost uncomfortably tight to begin with. The opposite is also true and you end up with a boot that not only fits too big but looks oversize. The sales staff are there to guide people through this process. Otherwise people are dropping £300 of their hard earned cash on something that isn't quite right. At that price it has to be spot on.👌
Is the 1907 shorter in length than the 875?? I measure 26,5 and I ordered the 1907 in 8,5 online since it’s literally impossible to find and try red wings in Trondheim Norway A bit confused about the 45last and the 23last lengthwise😅😅
The 1907 does fit differently than the 875s. You have to remember the 1907 comes with a full leather insole (removable). Sometimes guys will break-in the boot without the insert then place it once the leather is stretched.
hi, i want to buy a pair of 877 and i don't know what size fit me. Somenone have converse chuck taylor or puma suède in 44eu/10us (=puma/converse size) oh and do you know if we can find an outlet red wing(online) thx !!!
Hi, I measure 10 regular D on the Brannock and wear 10 regular D in Iron Ranger and they fit perfectly. Can't square this with all the sizing down for Red Wing boots. Guess everyone's feet are different, and it's oh, soo important to go to the store and try the boot. The conventional wisdom of sizing down, sure didn't apply to me.
The sizing down stuff is bullshit. You should take your brannock size and then size either up or keep the same depending on arch size. The boots should not feel tight or overly snug. They should if anything feel wuite roomy
@@matttherrien9608 Not a conspiracy, just truth. Most Red Wing higher ups are in agreement here. If the boot hurt or break in is painful its too small, some how people have started tinking the break in should be painful, and that boot should sit painfully tight.
@@TheFrontyer my Rangers feel pretty good now after four months. It's no picnic sometimes but so worth it. You'd be amazed to support to your posture these give you. Great alignment and support of the molded leather foot bed. And yes, they were tighter than J Lo's ass!
@@matttherrien9608 So did mine, however they fit like that from the start, only becoming more and more comfortable every day, as the footbed molds and leather form to my feet. Yet no pain, og tightness, because I sized them properly from the start.
Thank you for your response. I have narrow feet; therefore, I have a hard time finding the correct length that would not give me a heel slip. Except, Nike running shoes. The Brannock Device puts me in size 13 between C&B. I have ordered a pair of Nicks Handmade Boots in 12.5 C. They advise to go down a 1/2 size in accordance with their size instructions, I am a C-Width in Nicks. The down side is, you have to wait 7 months to get them. Also they cost double what Red Wings cost. Thank you for your response.
My feet measures 26.5 cm on paper . And according to the redwing size chart , a size 8US would be 26 cm . Is this accurate? I’m deciding between 8-9US based off the size chart but I am afraid that they won’t fit right . After watching this video , I feel like I should go even smaller , any advice ? Thanks a bunch . 🙏🏽🙏🏽
@@CJCook thanks a lot for the advice . But just curious, why do they put size 8US as 26 cm on the chart ? Is it inaccurate or is the sizing completely different for the iron rangers ?
tell me if 14 D size would fit the 5 inches wide feet perfectly or not as they do not make EE wide in 14 size? height is 6'1.. i am unable to visit any local redwing store as i am overseas so i can only on estimation.. Any help?
Inner Life Photography I have a 14D and they fit perfect for me. My foot measures 4.5" across. I typically wear a 15 in an athletic shoe. I think the 14D would be tight for you. Hope that helps.
Greggor B i heard that these RE Heritage chukka 3141 runs quite larger and some RW owners told me that even 12 EE would be perfect for you. What do you think regarding this advice?
Before I bought my IR 8111. I read the comment on IR videos and everyone recommened that I should wear half or full size down. Normally I wear size 11 Converse and the the store clerk recommend me size 10.5. I tried them and they felt a little bit tight on the ball of my feet. So I went for size 11 instead and they're perfect fit and still have about 1 inch extra space in the toe rooms. Now I grow to really love my IR. TL;DR Different people got different feet, so go to the store and try them on yourself before you buy one.
Hi CJ I watched all your video about 875 and sizing, here is my dilemma : I got 9875 same size as my blacksmith , beckman, and iron ranger, in D width. While left foot feels good, maybe a little loose if I don't tight the shoes so hard, the right food feels tight and my big toe touches the end. I have tried 875 on the half size up feels like swimming. What's your advice? I bought a shoe stretcher and plan to use it on my right boot.
if your toe touches that is a bad thing. I would go with a half size up and just use an insert. When your toe touches after 8 hours in the boot (if not sooner) it will become annoying. I have had that toe touching the front of the boot in the past.
hey man, i usually wear 10 in normal boots/shoes. My iron ranger size is 9. i want to buy engineer boots 2268 and im confused weather its a 9 or 9.5 as i tried them at the red wing store. The 9 felt tight and 9.5 my heel was coming off while walking. what do you recommend?
I’ve had 1907’s, 8111 and now 875. Hated the 1907’s and return them for the quality reasons and picked up the 8111’s. Both my Iron Rangers and my Mocs are 11d’s. I measured a 12. My news Mocs are killing my heel on my left foot.
Hi, so people normally go .5 size up in 23 last due to the narrower around the pinky area or because of the length? How would you recommend sizing in 23 last compared to 8 last. Sorry for the hassle we don’t have RW here in New Zealand it’s very frustrated figuring out sizing it was very expensive trials and error figuring out my 8 last size!! (wipe sweat) Thanks
@@CJCook I am wondering if UK size is the correct size with Redwing. I got a pair of Iron Rangers size 8.5 and they fit perfect. They are the same length as all my boots and shoes in 8.5's. No matter what make. I think the sizes translated in Redwing boots is out. I purchased a pair of Blacksmith boots, 8.5's and they fit perfect as well. It states 9.5 US on the label, or a 8.5. And 27.5cm. But on Redwing size chart 27.5cm = size 10.5. A UK 8.5 =size 9 in US sizes. So all I do know is measure the boot, and all of my boots and shoes with leather welted soles measure 30.5 to 31cm, depending on the overlap of the sole from front of shoe or boot. My foot measures 11". And on Rose anvil TH-cam channel he says that is a 10.5! The mind boggles! And you was told to try on a 7.5 at the Redwing store to start of with. i just purchased the Blacksmith boots, and wish i could get some of the moc toe styles, but not many stores have Redwing. I thought about ordering from the US, but I don't know if the stores would actually measure them. I think if they measured 30cm they would be OK. Anyway keep up the good work. I am jealous!
Hi CJ, awesome video you really know about RW... I got my first IR boots online, I have no possibility to try them on a store. So, after a few long distance calls to different RW stores I bought size 7.5 in the Cooper Rough & Tough. They feel really snug, especially on the sides. I have no idea what to expect, I can't return them now. I brannock 9 in one foot and 8.5 in the other. I am 8 in Timberland yellow boots. Should I get size 8? Every single review I read says they will stretch when they break in... I don't know what to do! 🤷
I just inherited a pair of Redwing 888’s from my grandfather. Never knew such a boot existed! It’s called the “Ted Williams Super Setter” made from kangaroo leather. Apparently it was released in the 60’s. Boots are still in very good shape and as much as I want to re-sole them, I think it’s better to keep them in original condition.
Hey CJ, I’m confused. I wear 9 D in Clark’s boots and a 9 D in New Balance. You said on the 8 last to wear the same size. So get size 9 D in Blacksmith 3340?
Hello, I want to buy Red wing moc toe Boots by online. But I can't decide which size to buy. I wear size 11 in New Balance 990v4 and Adidas ultraboost. Generally I wear size 11. Which size do you advice me to buy of moc toe Boots? Thank you.
I like your videos. Never thought I had a shoe fetish, but I might just a little. I got a pair of 8166 size 8 on eBay (no returns) I didn’t get professionally measured like you suggest, corona virus and all, but I’m a 9 in just about everything else. After 2 days of break in I’m wondering if I need a 7.5. The width feels good, but they feel a little long in the toe area. If I lace tight there’s no heel lift, but if I push my feet forward hard I can get a finger down behind my heel without my big toe touching the front. There are 8822 in 7.5 also on eBay and I think I like the color of those better anyway. Hopefully I could re-sell the 8166. Or should I just try an insole? I would love your advice. Thanks
Hi CJ, can you please give me an advice? I wear 11d in the iron range and it is a perfect feet for me, what size should I select for the 3322? we don't have a store in the place I stay and some people say half up, and some half size down. Please I need your help with my decision. Many thanks
The Weekenders fit long. According to Red Wing you would be a 10.5 or even a 10. You don't want them to fit too big because you will get an unattractive fold in the toe.
No heal slip. If they curl I'll send a futile letter to redwing and literally burn them and make a TH-cam video doing so. Then buy a pair that measure correctly from a competitor. Wtf would they make them so big and totally off size? The manager at the store said that you online/TH-cam guys know jack shit about their shoes or sizing. We'll see. 🙃
@@CJCook Thank you for quick reply. Perhaps you can help me understand with 1 more thing which I absolutely can not understand. I watch/read a lot where go half size down to EE when D when width feels bit tight. WHY? Regardless D or E, length is same? isn't it? So why would people say go half samller when going E? Or is that totally false? I also don't get when the guy said 8 3/4 fit like 9 3/4? Sounded like he is saying 8.5E width fits like 9D width? i am so lost as to why either would be a good fit when length is different.
@@CJCook Yes but length of the foot doesn't change, so why isn't 9E recommended instead? I don't know, since you own so many pairs and such... I'll just follow your advice for future first pair. Finally, you said your ideal size for Moc Toe is 8.5E... meaning moc toes actually is narrower than Iron Rangers? Is that why you said in the video 8.5E would be dream fit?
Where my wide bois at? 8.75 via brannock but I own a pair of navy moc toes in 8E. I think I'll try 8EE when I get my 875's. Also, recently bought a pair of 8824's in 9D but my feet are still too wide. Looks like I won't be enjoying any of 8 last models unless I can find EE models. Really wish Red Wing offered more of their lineup in wide widths.
Hey CJ, awesome job per usual man! Question.. I absolutely LOVE Redwing Heritage boots too, but I'm having a big problem getting them to feel good on my feet. I've got a rather flat foot, fallen arches I suppose. Is it ok to use some type of insoles with the Heritage line or is that frowned upon because of the leather footbed? Thanks so much Jake
Insoles?! Only if you've got weird feet!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦lol They're made to fit a "regular" foot. You know, one with a proper arch😜. You may be more comfortable in Crocs?🤔
Hi CJ, i wear almost all of my sneakers in US 9. But i'm little confused to order my first iron ranger. I'm stuck between US 8.5 or 8. Can you please help me out man, you help will be much appreciated 🙏
I would place you in an 8.5 to see how you feel first. If you have a wide foot or high instep I would have you walk around for a bit. If you felt any discomfort I would put you in a 9.
Awesome video! Just the answers I was looking for. I’m just about to get into Redwings but they don’t have a physical store in my city to try the pairs on. It’s just so happens that my Brannock measurement is exactly like yours. May I please know what size you got for your moc toes, iron rangers, blacksmith, and sneakers? Thank you!
CJ Cook Thanks! Am I correct in assuming that the sizes you stated are US sizes? Most sizes I see online are UK sizes. What size did you end up getting for your Rovers?
Hi CJ, nice video. can you advise, I wear size US 8.5 in Nike or adidas, i have a Dr. Martens in US 8 which is a bit tight, and i would have preferred a US 8.5 in docs, should i go for US 8.5 in RW Blacksmith. I tried on Brannon's device as well its 26 cms and the size is almost 10.5. The more i check its becomes difficult to decide.
I went to RedWing. They didn’t have any wide sizes for me to try on. Sad face. But she did measure me and said I’m a 12 brannock... which would be fine if I were really tall, but no I’m a hobbit. I fit in a 11EE pretty dang good. Since the store didn’t have any wide sizes for me to try on I’m taking advantage of the free shipping and free returns at redwing heritage to try some shoesies on. I wanna see if I can fit into a moc toe 11EE
Shoe twin also checking in. 8.5D in the 8 last and I like the 8.5E in the 23 last. Reverse those and you get my height. 5’8”! Oddly enough the work variant of the 875, the 10875, I feel is very wide fitting. The D feels like an Extra wide. Maybe my pair was missized. Great video btw.
I was looking at buying online, But i guess I am going to have to go to a store and see what's up. I wear a 17 in Converse sometimes 16.5 16 in Nike when I used to wear nike, I only have worn High ton BB shoes since i was 14 and I am getting a little sick of it since I am 50 freaking years old now LOL.
I like your overviews. Your RW kix videos kick it. Does it make sense to you that I’d be a 7 (or 7.5 in Iron Rangers) when I normally wear an 8 or 8.5? The 8 in Iron Ranger Cooper Rough n Tough I ordered & received just today were a whole inch too long on the left foot and 3/4” too long on the right one. Wow these shoes are boats. I wore a size 7 in 8th grade & im 40 now. Yipeeee for regression. Thanks
Very helpfull, i finally bought 875 moc toe in 10.5 D .. it feel comfortably snug, but i feel pain on my ankle .. i think it's because of the side of the tongue, any tips sir ?
Hello Ray, The tongue is gusseted so it would not slip unless it was somehow folded... I would try not to lace them too tightly until the tongue softens/breaks-in.
@@CJCook another question..I got wide feet should I get the wide or get the regular and just stretch it out naturally? You think they might be too tight for regular?
I measure a 10D as well on the brannock and have 8.5 IR That fit perfectly, however I am having a major issue finding Mocs that fit well. I’ve had 9D, 9.5D, and 10D and all of them hurt my toe beside my pinky. Not a pinch, more like a width issue where after just a half hour it hurts to walk. I don’t know what to do anymore. I’ve tried 875 and 1907 and have the same issue in both. I’ve never been a wide in my entire life, but isn’t a 9 wide the same width as a 10D? Help!!
hi CJ, im one of avid subscriber and i would consider myself a boot guy. ive been longing that someday i could own an iron ranger unfortunately we dont have it here in this part of the world, would you mind if i ask a favor from ? if you could visit again in any red wing branch well yo be kind enough to measure the tip-to-tip outsole (heel-to-toe) for sizes US 7, 7.5 and 8 Iron Ranger which ever is the narrowest width. its fine you cant. thanks
Hola cj Cook , que tallas me recomiendas para unas classicc moe , mis pies miden exactamente 26 centímetros y para una iron rangers q número ya q la pediré en amazon, en México no las venden
That guy is insane. I have 10d feet just like CJ and I I can't even get my feet into size 9 IRs, let alone 8.5. What a joke.
I measure 10 on the Brannock. I wear 9 in Iron Ranger and Moc toe. The Moc toe was snug but eventually broke in. I had trouble with the work Chukka, though. A 9.5 was painfully narrow and tight. Finally I gave them a warm water soak and put them on. They now fit perfectly. I wouldn't hesitate to soak a Red Wing that just won't break in. Condition them afterwards.
My right boot is still giving me a hard time after four months. The left one fits like a dream.👍im almost a ten and a nine as well.
Very good video, CJ! Congrats.
There is a lot of myth and crazy rules about sizing Red Wing boots. The gentleman who assists CJ at the Red Wing store (wonderful place I had the pleasure of visiting) says what I consider key to reaching the ideal size: your toes should not touch the front of your boot, even slightly. . On long walks this can result in a world of pain. Thus, in my experience the most reliable measure is the Japanese in cm that appears inside the boot. After all, no boots will stretch lengthwise. My feet measure 27.5 cm, so all my 7 pairs are 9.5. Of course, my foot is narrow. But Red Wing boots can be purchased in different widths. The ideal is to try it in a store, but if not possible, follow the Japanese measure. Take care!
I followed the Japanese measurement on my other shoes too. My red wing size 7 (25cm) perfectly fits on me. I also have chucks in size 8, so just size down to 7 for red wing for another comparison.
This was probably the most helpful out of every Reddit discussion, TH-cam video and Article I could find on sizing. Now I might be able to rest easy knowing I got the right size. Thank you Sergio!
So you are saying buy true to size? but maybe down size half if EE?
@@CtznofEternity so what is your foot size in CM? and what size/model boots did you get?
I highly recommend adding the 1907s to your collection before you "quit" lol. I wear them almost daily to work as a plumber, they're the most comfy of all my boots.
You: walks into Red Wing Store for the nth time
Red Wing mustachioed employee: ah shit, here we go again.
Hahaha! Quite the opposite... when I walk in it is, "My man - - I got something to show you!"
CJ Cook yeah, the door!! Lmao jk man thx for all the boot info
hahaha it can go either way
I always enjoy your reviews. I don’t know how I would switch out 59 pairs of boots 🤣. I actually got my first pair of IR amber today. I’m glad I was fit in the redwing store. They had a double braneck. I know I spelled it wrong. In any event, I went with an 11 1/2 D. My right foot is slightly longer. Also my toes are weird, and my two middle toes are longer than my big toe. I guess I measured 12, but sized down a half size. I tried on the E width, which felt a bit loose. I wore them out of the store, and they weren’t horrible as many people complain about. I know they need to break in, but I have worn work boots daily for years. I think some people are not used to boots. I also wear compression socks, and they are thin. I don’t usually lace up to the top hook on my 8” boots. I wore them out of the store, and drove for about an hour, with no complaints. Since you obviously have history, do you usually lace your boots up to the top hook? Thanks again for the knowledge and entertaining videos.
I thought I'd put in my two cents. I went to my local redwing store and I got digitally scanned. My left foot measured 10.2 and right foot measured exactly 10 with my feet having a "C" width. Redwing says to purchase a half size down but I had to go a full size down. I believe because I had narrow feet I had to go a full size down. And let me tell u they fit absolutely perfect. Had I had regular "D" width feet I think I would be just fine buying a half size down. My blacksmiths and my IR's are a size 9. Now here's another thing. My moc toes 9075's are 9.5 so the shoe sizes are definitely all over the place. I guess the shoe lasts make a huge difference. Hope this helps.
You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar. Thank you for making this. I have the same exact brannock size and I've hovered between 8.5 and 9 heritage sizing, which has been a little frustrating. This is by far the best heritage fitting video I've seen!
Saved and shared to my boot buddies.
Thank you Chris!
Chris C me too. I have the blacksmiths in a size 9 and they fit okay. The ball of my foot fits in the widest part of the shoe so I think that’s the size I should wear.
Chris C ... as I tried lots of red wings too, the most disappointing fact is, that two pairs of the same boots can have totally different width and fit if they are from a different worker or batch. I tried loggers from two different sources at the same time and if I wanted to have one good pair I would have to mix both pairs. at one pair the left foot was fitting and from the other pair, the right. but at the right foot the heel was shaped badly. so try from different sources or try a second pair or a different color to get a good fit.
@@alx252 Had the same experience with my 875. The right shoes is a little smaller than the left one. The right shoe was probably built tighter on the last than the left shoe.
Im a true size 10.5 ee. I went in to a redwing store today and got measured.
Ive owned many redwing boots. In this style I tried a 10 all the way down to a 8.5 ee and the heel fit was surprisingly perfect in all sizes which is a key factor in a good fitting boot. Since they felt great in the heel I almost bought the size 9.5 but I started to think about how much space there was in the toe box, particularly the space between my longest toe in relation to when it would touch the front.
Size 8.5 put my toes closer together but since im a ee I would have probably been fine, but I didnt want to risk it.
I probably would have been fine even in a 10.5, but then I would have had two inches of space if not more left over.
Maybe thats why they say they look like clown shoes. 🤨
Size 9 ee put my toes about 1 fingers width away from reaching the tip of the shoe in the toe box. Size 9 ee is my size in Iron Rangers.
I would suggest you try smaller sizes than you are used to in this style. Once you wear the heritage series outside, redwing will not let you exchange them for a smaller size.
Hope this helps.
I exchange boots all the time in a Redwing Shoe Store. As long as you don’t wear them outside and I’m pretty sure its 30 days from the purchase date.
As I have a 10.5ee foot they sized me for an 11d because of no wide boots available at that moment. I wear the same size for my thorogoods and most shoes so I say I fit pretty true to size on redwing heritage boots.
I am a 10.5 EE on sneakers, Red Wing measured me on a 9EE. I bought the Rovers Rough and Tough on a 9D, since it doesn't come wide. I tried the 9.5D since 9D was TIGHT, but the ball area, in front of the arch, was not aligned with the boot properly and the boot was loose on the back when properly sitting the ball in the boot. There were hot spots when breaking the boots-- which was expected since I am wide and they are new, but never got blisters on my feet. The first day was kinda rough, second day was much better, now they fit like a comfortable glove with plenty of wiggle room on the toes. You can break them in slowly, or wear them on days you won't be doing a whole lot of heavy walking. If you struggle getting the boot in, get a shoe horn, makes everything significantly easier and won't struggle getting new boots in.
This is GREAT! Thank you for sharing!
My experience was different. On the Brannock device, my foot length was 9, but my instep was 10 (Brannock recommends taking the larger of the two measurements). Width was squarely between a D and E. Because they didn’t have wide widths in the style I wanted, I ended up in a size 9.5 D in both I.R. and Beckman. Both fit well.
hi sir. how are you? i wear a 10 in 875s, should i get the same size for an 8152s? thank you sir.
How wide is your foot? Mine is 11cm wide and I have ironranger 8.5 us size. And it is too tight barely move my feet inside and getting blisters. Should I go for wide one? Please suggest
I bought the ebony harness after watching your video on those and I love em! I ware 8.5 so I ordered a 7.5 and they fit perfectly.
Aren't they just beautiful?
The brass hardware and dark leather 😍
Idk, I usually wear size 11 and my iron ranger 8083 is in 11 and feels perfect, I don’t know what that sizing down thing is about, everyone is talking about but on my Red Wings I find no issues there.
Have you got wide feet?
Best video I've seen explaining this situation with redwing boots. My first pair are a size 9 I'm usually an 11. Now I'm all confused about mt shoe size
Yep I wear a 9e or 9.5d for redwing. My foot measures 10.5, nike and adidas I wear 11 or 11.5s, skate brands and dress shoes 10.5.
Boston poochie is awesome! Mine is 15 years old, still loves to play. Not quite as hard as she used to but she’ll try😄
Nice video. I expended a lot of time finding my right size. Very useful video. Thanks!
I deeply love my moc toes. My favorite boots I own! Nice stuff CJ
I don't understand how you can be a size and half down, and go to a wider width? That doesn't make any sense?? I have had my foot measured and fitted at Red Wing. I measure a 10.5 on the Brannock, and I size down to a 10D and they fit fine in the 8 last. The width is just right and I have a half a thumbnail in length. I couldn't imagine going down that small, unless there is a small, small difference in lengths? The one that is perplexing me...is how can your width be different?
The Red Wing salesman was super knowledgeable! I have some IR's that are too big after being sized at a Red Wing store in KC. After googling sizing I knew it was gonna be a lot different than buying other boots. The salesman didn't seem to concerned about my size after the Brannock device test. I had to ask them for a half size down and after a few weeks they're too big 🤦♂️
Damn, that sux Chad.
@@CJCook I'd love to see you do a video and ask people to comment their Brannock device size and what size they actually wear. I think it would be helpful
@@chadbruning6631 I like that idea
@@chadbruning6631 9.5+D Brannock. 9 D Rangers. Couldn't size down any further.
Bought mine today and love them. I normally wear wide work boots and these are only a D width but still feel comfortable.
Fantastic!
I really wish they made more wide widths. Would love a wider Beckman or Blacksmith. The 8 last is so long and narrow, having wider sizes only makes sense.
Yeah, they should accommodate customers with wider feet.
@@CJCook I hope Red Wing appreciates the work you’re doing for them, man. I bought my first pair of Red Wings yesterday, 3345 Blacksmiths. I wear 8.5E in Allen Edmonds and 9E in Quoddy, and an 8E would have been perfect in the Blacksmiths. Had to settle for an 8.5 that’s snug across but a little long. Will add those tri comforts you talked about in another video.
Thanks for all the advice! Love your channel and your positivity!
@@Case16710 Thank you for your support!
I am an 8 in sneakers, 8 to 8.5 in trainers, and size down to 7 on moc toes and 7.5 on round toes
Great information, thanks. But II am 8 in Nike sneakers so I don’t think a 7 would fit me in a Moc toe, that’s a big bummer because they don’t have them on their website in anything smaller than that.
I’m a 9.5 on both the bannock
And the redwing scan tool. Wearing 9.5 It’s that are awesome.
I speak engrish good 🤣
Question for CJ:
I normally buy a size 10 for almost all shoes and boots. Bear in mind, this is for a wide variety of shoe styles, buying comparatively inexpensive shoes and selecting them self-serve off the shelves with no formal measuring. I've always felt like I have a "medium" foot, subjectively, but my pinky toes often bulge the side of the shoe out. I sometimes wonder if I might actually be "wide". Most of the shoes I've had that feel comfortable, end up having a wee bit of extra room in the end of the shoe, past the toes. I'm considering ordering the Roughneck boots with moc toe and vibram sole. I don't use my boots for occupation, but do a wide variety of DIY carpentry, landscape work, hiking around with dogs, etc.
With the stores here in Michigan closed due to Covid-19 rules, what size do you think I should order considering I don't have the option of getting properly fitted, and I am ready to order my first premium boots, and don't think I have the patience to keep waiting for things to open up?
A size 9 in the Roughnecks will fit you. You will have some pinching on the pinky in the beginning but once broken-in the boots will fit like a glove.
LOLOLOLOL !!!
I paused early in the video to post that question. After watching the whole thing, it's like you answered my question in the video. You even featured the same boot I'm looking at! I'm probably a half size longer than you, so my best guess is that a 9.5 E would be pretty close.
@@CJCook Holy cow, you already replied before I could reply to my reply. You rock!!
@@rmcdaniel423 9.5E will be too big.
I'm the same size as Cook, just over 9.5 on the Brannock. My size nine Iron Rangers fit like a glove. So, what size moc should I start with? lol
Nice work on the what the correct time to have your foot sized... makes senses. Another great CJVlog....
Thank you
This is accurate. That’s a knowledgeable Red Wing salesman. Beware non-urban Red Wing salesman that do not sell many of the Heritage line. They almost always put you in a larger size. I wear size 10 in most shoes and my IRs are 8.5.
Thank you
Found this true here as well. Honestly don't care what the measurement device shows. Lets try them on !
100% accurate. I just went into a Red Wings store. I wear a 11.5D Thursday boot Captain. In the 875 moc toe, I was fitted for a 10D. I dunno if I have been wearing my boots big my whole life or just a Red Wing sizing thing.
One time CJ walked into a Red Wing store and walked out empty handed deserved to be recorded!
So true. I struggled I was trying to find something to buy.
My sneaker size is 10. I have IR and blacksmith in 9.5D. Initially they were snug but now they seem a little roomy. I wished I had gone in the store and probably get expert advice. However, I saw your video on adding insoles and I think that should do the trick, so I ordered the insoles you recommended. I tried other insoles and they seem to create a snug fit.
great!
Unfortunate that you bought them too large. Mine felt so tight at some points during the long break in I was afraid they were a half size too small. They are just beginning to feel perfectly broken in and they feel amazing! I fully understand the almost religious following of Iron Rangers. The support they give once molded is indescribably comfortable.
My sneaker size is 10-10 1/2 and my Iron Ranger size is nine.
I think i got the same size with you! My usually size of last 8 is 9 D, I own a pair of 8890 in 8.5 E and it is very comfortable! Also, i had a pair of 8102 in 8.5 D and i am still breaking in now...
Moc Toe's in E width are lovely!
If my mocs are 9d fit well would a 8.5e fit me. There is deal on eBay
Do you have the iron rangers in 8.5 or 9 ? If both how would you say they fit ? I bought them online and took a full size down from my Brannock but not sure if I should have tried a size and a half down instead.
I have iron rangers in both 8.5 and 9. I like the way the 8.5 feel.
@@CJCook oh ok, just want to avoid the clown shoe look and I know in another of your videos you mentioned that’s usually because people get a size too big. All the same love your videos and feedback it’s much appreciated!
@@WordsandWings12 you are welcome
Also measure a 10D on the Red Wing Brannock, I wear out the Red Wing guys when it comes to fit, both the iron ranger and the moc toe I fit a 9.5d, I have a pair of insulated supersole 2.0 #2416 in a 9EEE the now discontinued CRV 4423 my motorcycle boot in 9D and lineman 2450 are in 9D as well. Got some Chelsea boots on order, will see how they go.
Hey CJ, I just got into red wings and quality boots in general and your channel has been really enjoyable and helpful for me starting out. Being that you're just slightly under 10 on the brannock, I'm curious as how size 8.5 iron rangers fit you. I've seen you with multiple size 9 IRs so I'm figuring you like that fit better but maybe you like both sizes for different reasons. I'm just slightly under a 9 on the brannock and bought both size 7.5 and 8 IRs and am having trouble deciding which one feels better. When it comes to half size differences I'm finding it pretty tough to gauge. Thanks for helping us all out lol
With the Iron Ranger I prefer to size down because the can quickly look like clown shoes with that bulbous toe.
@@CJCook that's a very good point. Are your toes pretty close to the front of boot when you're rocking the 8.5?
@@grim2j758 8.5D in the Moc Toe, yes. I prefer a 9D
@@CJCook Appreciate your help sir! One last question, do you think there's a chance the oxblood colorway every comes back for the IRs? By the time I learned about red wings it seems that model was already discontinued.
@@grim2j758 maybe Europe has a few. I did see a pair at the mall in Vancouver.
Hello Cj. I’m a 9EE in the 10875…I want the 8849 moc toe but it only comes in D width…what do you think I should do?
I would recommend trying on a 10.5D
One full size down stretching and some pain for summer, half size down and same pain for winter and bigger socks.
Not a fan?
@@matttherrien9608
Pain breaking in, love after that
The big toe goes just a bit OVER the 10 line at 4:25. It literally obscures part of the line. Why is he calling that "just under 10 . . . nine and three quarters"?
I think it's the perspective of the camera that Makes it look like that
I hope I didn't f up and waste a bunch of money. I bought the IR copper in an 8.5. The salesperson talked me into it without measuring on the brannock. I wear 10s in most Nikes and 9s in chuck taylors. I read online, and the salesgirl told me that it should be tight. I haven't worn them a ton, but knew that I wanted to also get them in black during their black Friday sale. It was a zoo in there during the sale, but the salesperson that day measured me on the brannock, but just for length. He didn't do the width or the ball or big toe knuckle assessment. This was at 8 a.m., and I was a 9.5 on the brannock. Been trying to break the blacks in lately, and notice that the squeeze I'm getting on the pinky toes are a bit uncomfortable and possibly too tight. I've never had to break boots in before, so I don't know. I've only worn them for 8 hours twice, and a few hours on three or four more occasions. So I'm sure they're far from being broken in. I think I tried the 9's in the copper, and the salesgirl that helped me thought there was too much space in the material above the foot(between the laces and toe cap), as if my foot wasn't thick enough to fill it in. Obviously it's too late now to exchange for the 9s because of their policy. Will the squeezing on the pinky toes loosen up after more wear? I need to wear both the copper and the blacks more. Would be a damn shame if over $600 worth of boots end up being a waste.
You have been fitted correctly. You could apply some mink oil to them and massage the leather to help with the break-in.
I hope you’re right because I feel the squeeze. It’s not overly painful, but definitely uncomfortable. I also feel some pain in the foot, like the foot is being squeezed so much that the bones are being compressed. Hopefully it expands with time. Seems like most forums say boots won’t expand too much, and if it’s hurting from the squeeze/tightness, it’s not a good sign.
@@PDM-95 How thick of a sock are you wearing?
CJ Cook not a thin workout sock, and not a thick wool sock. It’s pretty much in between.
CJ Cook went on a four mile hike over rocky terrain and some decent elevation. The feet are destroyed, especially at the pinky toes. I don’t think my feet are overly wide. Like I said, I measured a 9.5 on the brannock on an early morning measure. They only did one foot, so I suppose it’s possible the other foot is slightly larger. A lot of threads suggest a cobbler can stretch it out. Just bummed that I dropped so much dough, and might have to spend more with no guarantees of them being an enjoyable fit. Did you or do you deal with a devastating break in whenever you break in a new pair of 8.5s?
very nice thank you and hoping you are doing very well . Where is the pinching area coming from ? and is it on the joint of which toe ?
I wore a pair of 8046 Roughnecks in a US10 for about 3-4 months almost daily and the leather got super soft but still they crushed my little toe on one foot when i walked & they were too painful, i now have a pair of 875's in a 10.5 and they feel better but i have to tie the laces super close, its a bummer
Very helpful CJ. Thanks man.
You are welcome
CJ great show and tell upload. The RR SA was spot on. I'm a 9.5 on the brannock device 10d in sneakers and 8.5d on the 8 last. 9d on the 23 last. I would add that initially the boots will feel tight but after they break in they loosen up quite a bit width wise for a very comfortable fit (secure heel cup, snug (not tight) vamp, perfect amount or room in the toe box). It's no wonder you have so many pairs.
Your videos are great and I love and share your passion for Red Wings! When you decide to trim the herd, let me know. We have the same feet! 😃
Hey Greg, Will do!
Don't listen to their Sales people. Listen to your feet. If the boot is too tight go up if its too loose go down. REDWING SALESPEOPLE are not your feet.
The leather of Redwing boots is extremely thick and rigid. It can be extremely off putting if you haven't been through the process of breaking them in before. As you wear them the heat from your feet and movement from walking stretches, softens and moulds the leather to your feet. This is why they should feel almost uncomfortably tight to begin with. The opposite is also true and you end up with a boot that not only fits too big but looks oversize. The sales staff are there to guide people through this process. Otherwise people are dropping £300 of their hard earned cash on something that isn't quite right. At that price it has to be spot on.👌
Is the 1907 shorter in length than the 875?? I measure 26,5 and I ordered the 1907 in 8,5 online since it’s literally impossible to find and try red wings in Trondheim Norway
A bit confused about the 45last and the 23last lengthwise😅😅
The 1907 does fit differently than the 875s. You have to remember the 1907 comes with a full leather insole (removable). Sometimes guys will break-in the boot without the insert then place it once the leather is stretched.
Thank you for the answer 🤘🏻 they should arrive soon so hopefully got the size right , trying to guess the size has been a 3 month project 😅😅
@@Slash4 I hope they fit you !
Where is the width difference? Is it across your toes or across the midsole?
I feel it in the toes
hi, i want to buy a pair of 877 and i don't know what size fit me. Somenone have converse chuck taylor or puma suède in 44eu/10us (=puma/converse size)
oh and do you know if we can find an outlet red wing(online) thx !!!
Hi, I measure 10 regular D on the Brannock and wear 10 regular D in Iron Ranger and they fit perfectly. Can't square this with all the sizing down for Red Wing boots. Guess everyone's feet are different, and it's oh, soo important to go to the store and try the boot. The conventional wisdom of sizing down, sure didn't apply to me.
The sizing down stuff is bullshit. You should take your brannock size and then size either up or keep the same depending on arch size. The boots should not feel tight or overly snug. They should if anything feel wuite roomy
@@TheFrontyer yeah you're right, 1,000s of people are in on this conspiracy
@@matttherrien9608 Not a conspiracy, just truth. Most Red Wing higher ups are in agreement here. If the boot hurt or break in is painful its too small, some how people have started tinking the break in should be painful, and that boot should sit painfully tight.
@@TheFrontyer my Rangers feel pretty good now after four months. It's no picnic sometimes but so worth it. You'd be amazed to support to your posture these give you. Great alignment and support of the molded leather foot bed.
And yes, they were tighter than J Lo's ass!
@@matttherrien9608 So did mine, however they fit like that from the start, only becoming more and more comfortable every day, as the footbed molds and leather form to my feet. Yet no pain, og tightness, because I sized them properly from the start.
Hi CJ, My foot is 260mm with socks, not wide. I want to buy 877 and 8111, what size do you recommend? would prefer to put an insole in the boots.
9D
@@CJCook Thanks CJ
@Soul Bargainer I bought 877 9D, it is big for my 267CM feet. And I just bought 875 8.5E, and to see whether it fits me.
Great video, I'm an 8.5 in the Moc Toe 8131, would you suggest the same size in the 2953 Rover Hawthorne?
No, I would recommend an 8 in the Rover.
@@CJCook thanks for the fast reply!
Your videos are very good congratulations, my foot measures a little more than 27cm. In Moc Toe 845 model my size is 9 ( 42 ) do you think it's okay ?
yes, they will fit you.
thank you for watching.
@@CJCook sorry Moc Toe 875 !
My 3343`s in 8 1/2D are a little loose. My 4522`s in 9D fit perfectly. So go figure! The 4522`s are beautiful, love em.
you can put in an insole
Does the length changes if you only change the width?
no, what happens is your feet spread in the shoe.
Thank you for your response. I have narrow feet; therefore, I have a hard time finding the correct length that would not give me a heel slip. Except, Nike running shoes. The Brannock Device puts me in size 13 between C&B. I have ordered a pair of Nicks Handmade Boots in 12.5 C. They advise to go down a 1/2 size in accordance with their size instructions, I am a C-Width in Nicks. The down side is, you have to wait 7 months to get them. Also they cost double what Red Wings cost. Thank you for your response.
@@rarsenio1 the upside is Nick's are far superior to Red Wing. They will be well worth the wait.
My feet measures 26.5 cm on paper . And according to the redwing size chart , a size 8US would be 26 cm . Is this accurate? I’m deciding between 8-9US based off the size chart but I am afraid that they won’t fit right . After watching this video , I feel like I should go even smaller , any advice ? Thanks a bunch . 🙏🏽🙏🏽
8D US in the Iron Ranger and an 8.5D US in the Moc Toe
@@CJCook thanks a lot for the advice . But just curious, why do they put size 8US as 26 cm on the chart ? Is it inaccurate or is the sizing completely different for the iron rangers ?
hye CJ. if my size is 10.5 D ,is it too big if i wear 11H. Tq in advance
tell me if 14 D size would fit the 5 inches wide feet perfectly or not as they do not make EE wide in 14 size? height is 6'1.. i am unable to visit any local redwing store as i am overseas so i can only on estimation.. Any help?
Inner Life Photography I have a 14D and they fit perfect for me. My foot measures 4.5" across. I typically wear a 15 in an athletic shoe. I think the 14D would be tight for you. Hope that helps.
Greggor B i heard that these RE Heritage chukka 3141 runs quite larger and some RW owners told me that even 12 EE would be perfect for you. What do you think regarding this advice?
i wear uk 7.5 in chukka. what size would i be in iron ranger please?
Before I bought my IR 8111. I read the comment on IR videos and everyone recommened that I should wear half or full size down. Normally I wear size 11 Converse and the the store clerk recommend me size 10.5. I tried them and they felt a little bit tight on the ball of my feet. So I went for size 11 instead and they're perfect fit and still have about 1 inch extra space in the toe rooms. Now I grow to really love my IR.
TL;DR Different people got different feet, so go to the store and try them on yourself before you buy one.
Hi CJ I watched all your video about 875 and sizing, here is my dilemma : I got 9875 same size as my blacksmith , beckman, and iron ranger, in D width. While left foot feels good, maybe a little loose if I don't tight the shoes so hard, the right food feels tight and my big toe touches the end. I have tried 875 on the half size up feels like swimming. What's your advice? I bought a shoe stretcher and plan to use it on my right boot.
if your toe touches that is a bad thing. I would go with a half size up and just use an insert. When your toe touches after 8 hours in the boot (if not sooner) it will become annoying. I have had that toe touching the front of the boot in the past.
hey man, i usually wear 10 in normal boots/shoes. My iron ranger size is 9. i want to buy engineer boots 2268 and im confused weather its a 9 or 9.5 as i tried them at the red wing store. The 9 felt tight and 9.5 my heel was coming off while walking. what do you recommend?
You should size the Engineers as you would the Iron Rangers.
@@CJCook thanks
I’ve had 1907’s, 8111 and now 875. Hated the 1907’s and return them for the quality reasons and picked up the 8111’s. Both my Iron Rangers and my Mocs are 11d’s. I measured a 12. My news Mocs are killing my heel on my left foot.
Is that employee Arthur from peaky blinders?
😄👏🏽👏🏽
Do they have a size 16 boot
Hi, so people normally go .5 size up in 23 last due to the narrower around the pinky area or because of the length? How would you recommend sizing in 23 last compared to 8 last.
Sorry for the hassle we don’t have RW here in New Zealand it’s very frustrated figuring out sizing it was very expensive trials and error figuring out my 8 last size!! (wipe sweat)
Thanks
Hi Alex, It is a little bit of both narrow and length. Which size in the last 8 did you find fit you best?
CJ Cook I’m a size US8 D in 8 last.
@@EditHandleError Cool, So you could get away with wearing an 8.5 or 9 with an insert if you had to.
Thanks for showing. I take 8.5 UK, and the 8.5's fit me perfect! Yet you take a 10 and a 9would fit you? Mine say 8.5 D. so I should try a 7?
Yes, you can start there.
@@CJCook I am wondering if UK size is the correct size with Redwing. I got a pair of Iron Rangers size 8.5 and they fit perfect. They are the same length as all my boots and shoes in 8.5's. No matter what make. I think the sizes translated in Redwing boots is out. I purchased a pair of Blacksmith boots, 8.5's and they fit perfect as well. It states 9.5 US on the label, or a 8.5. And 27.5cm. But on Redwing size chart 27.5cm = size 10.5. A UK 8.5 =size 9 in US sizes. So all I do know is measure the boot, and all of my boots and shoes with leather welted soles measure 30.5 to 31cm, depending on the overlap of the sole from front of shoe or boot. My foot measures 11". And on Rose anvil TH-cam channel he says that is a 10.5! The mind boggles! And you was told to try on a 7.5 at the Redwing store to start of with. i just purchased the Blacksmith boots, and wish i could get some of the moc toe styles, but not many stores have Redwing. I thought about ordering from the US, but I don't know if the stores would actually measure them. I think if they measured 30cm they would be OK. Anyway keep up the good work. I am jealous!
Hi CJ, Currently I'm wearing 9.5 E3 on my RW 8241 and it fits perfectly. Should 9.5 E suit me on the Moc Toe? Intent to purchase online.
You could go with a 9.5E it will be slightly narrow but will break after a week of wear
After the purchase will update back to you.. Thanks bro..
I wear 10 US in moc toes but 10.5 in blacksmith. Is that odd?
Never mind, CJ answered the question 20 seconds into the video
Hi CJ, awesome video you really know about RW... I got my first IR boots online, I have no possibility to try them on a store. So, after a few long distance calls to different RW stores I bought size 7.5 in the Cooper Rough & Tough. They feel really snug, especially on the sides. I have no idea what to expect, I can't return them now. I brannock 9 in one foot and 8.5 in the other. I am 8 in Timberland yellow boots. Should I get size 8? Every single review I read says they will stretch when they break in... I don't know what to do! 🤷
Snug is fine as long as your toes don't touch the front. I would have put you in an 8 first to see how it feels.
I just inherited a pair of Redwing 888’s from my grandfather. Never knew such a boot existed! It’s called the “Ted Williams Super Setter” made from kangaroo leather. Apparently it was released in the 60’s.
Boots are still in very good shape and as much as I want to re-sole them, I think it’s better to keep them in original condition.
Very cool!
What size?
Hey CJ, I’m confused. I wear 9 D in Clark’s boots and a 9 D in New Balance. You said on the 8 last to wear the same size. So get size 9 D in Blacksmith 3340?
Blacksmith's I size down 8.5 but I could wear a 9.
CJ Cook I see . I will go down 1 whole size first then. If that doesn’t work I will get 8.5. That helped a lot. 👍
@@Orlanzepol123hi! What size did you get finally?
Hello, I want to buy Red wing moc toe Boots by online. But I can't decide which size to buy. I wear size 11 in New Balance 990v4 and Adidas ultraboost. Generally I wear size 11. Which size do you advice me to buy of moc toe Boots?
Thank you.
Hello, I would try a 10.5 in the Moc Toes.
@@CJCook Thank you so much.
I like your videos. Never thought I had a shoe fetish, but I might just a little. I got a pair of 8166 size 8 on eBay (no returns) I didn’t get professionally measured like you suggest, corona virus and all, but I’m a 9 in just about everything else. After 2 days of break in I’m wondering if I need a 7.5. The width feels good, but they feel a little long in the toe area. If I lace tight there’s no heel lift, but if I push my feet forward hard I can get a finger down behind my heel without my big toe touching the front. There are 8822 in 7.5 also on eBay and I think I like the color of those better anyway. Hopefully I could re-sell the 8166. Or should I just try an insole? I would love your advice. Thanks
If you throw in an insole they will be fine and feel very comfy with the extra cushion.
CJ Cook ok, I’ll do that. Thanks for the help!
Hi CJ, can you please give me an advice? I wear 11d in the iron range and it is a perfect feet for me, what size should I select for the 3322? we don't have a store in the place I stay and some people say half up, and some half size down. Please I need your help with my decision. Many thanks
The Weekenders fit long. According to Red Wing you would be a 10.5 or even a 10. You don't want them to fit too big because you will get an unattractive fold in the toe.
@@CJCook Thank you so much for the quick response, I love your videos and the reviews
@@giorgostzolis4245 Thank you Giorgos!
My redwing dealer was like "ok, you're measuring an 8.5, so I'll be right back with an 8.5".
Did it fit?
@@CJCook
They look a little long to me when I look down to my feet, but after some good insoles and boot socks they fit fine.
@@snooka2484 if you have to add insoles they don't fit you correctly. Do you have heel slip?
@@snooka2484 good chance the toes will curl on you.
No heal slip. If they curl I'll send a futile letter to redwing and literally burn them and make a TH-cam video doing so. Then buy a pair that measure correctly from a competitor. Wtf would they make them so big and totally off size?
The manager at the store said that you online/TH-cam guys know jack shit about their shoes or sizing. We'll see. 🙃
i am sorry... so what is CJ's Iron Ranger size?
8.5D sweet spot
@@CJCook Thank you for quick reply. Perhaps you can help me understand with 1 more thing which I absolutely can not understand. I watch/read a lot where go half size down to EE when D when width feels bit tight. WHY? Regardless D or E, length is same? isn't it? So why would people say go half samller when going E? Or is that totally false?
I also don't get when the guy said 8 3/4 fit like 9 3/4? Sounded like he is saying 8.5E width fits like 9D width? i am so lost as to why either would be a good fit when length is different.
@@xxgg half size down with E width because the boot is wider. Your foot spreads out in the boot.
@@CJCook Yes but length of the foot doesn't change, so why isn't 9E recommended instead? I don't know, since you own so many pairs and such... I'll just follow your advice for future first pair.
Finally, you said your ideal size for Moc Toe is 8.5E... meaning moc toes actually is narrower than Iron Rangers? Is that why you said in the video 8.5E would be dream fit?
@@xxgg yes moc toes are narrow. I normally wear a 9D in Mocs. I wear an 8.5D in Irón Rangers. The boots are made on different lasts.
Where my wide bois at? 8.75 via brannock but I own a pair of navy moc toes in 8E. I think I'll try 8EE when I get my 875's. Also, recently bought a pair of 8824's in 9D but my feet are still too wide. Looks like I won't be enjoying any of 8 last models unless I can find EE models. Really wish Red Wing offered more of their lineup in wide widths.
I'm size 7 on my RW 8241 (safety). Can I use the same size on IR 8111? Hope your advise CJ
Yes, you can use the same size.
Hey CJ, awesome job per usual man! Question.. I absolutely LOVE Redwing Heritage boots too, but I'm having a big problem getting them to feel good on my feet. I've got a rather flat foot, fallen arches I suppose. Is it ok to use some type of insoles with the Heritage line or is that frowned upon because of the leather footbed?
Thanks so much
Jake
Hello Jacob,
Nope not at all. I know many folks whom buy a slightly bigger size to accommodate an insole.
Insoles?! Only if you've got weird feet!🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦lol They're made to fit a "regular" foot. You know, one with a proper arch😜. You may be more comfortable in Crocs?🤔
@@matttherrien9608 bien voyons donc.
Hi CJ, i wear almost all of my sneakers in US 9. But i'm little confused to order my first iron ranger. I'm stuck between US 8.5 or 8. Can you please help me out man, you help will be much appreciated 🙏
Go with an 8.5
@@CJCook thanks bro for making my job easy
I'm regularly a size 8, just found a pair of new 7.5 Iron Rangers on Facebook for 30 bucks, hope those fit right on my feet. What should I expect?
size 8 in sneakers?
@@CJCook Yeah, in sneakers and some cheap boots.
So a size 11.5-12 in regular shoes would be what in moc toe?
10.5/11
My foot measures to 27.3cm what would be the best size Iron Ranger for me? Thank you
I would place you in an 8.5 to see how you feel first. If you have a wide foot or high instep I would have you walk around for a bit. If you felt any discomfort I would put you in a 9.
@@CJCook thank you very much for the reply it means a lot. Hope you have a very good day!
9.5 D unless you have low volume feet. 8.5 is insane.
Awesome video! Just the answers I was looking for. I’m just about to get into Redwings but they don’t have a physical store in my city to try the pairs on. It’s just so happens that my Brannock measurement is exactly like yours. May I please know what size you got for your moc toes, iron rangers, blacksmith, and sneakers? Thank you!
Hello Paolo,
I wear a 10 in sneakers, 8.5 in Iron Rangers and Blacksmith and a 9 in Moc Toes.
CJ Cook Thanks! Am I correct in assuming that the sizes you stated are US sizes? Most sizes I see online are UK sizes. What size did you end up getting for your Rovers?
@@paoloangeloigama5065 yes, US sizes
Hi CJ, nice video. can you advise, I wear size US 8.5 in Nike or adidas, i have a Dr. Martens in US 8 which is a bit tight, and i would have preferred a US 8.5 in docs, should i go for US 8.5 in RW Blacksmith. I tried on Brannon's device as well its 26 cms and the size is almost 10.5. The more i check its becomes difficult to decide.
Hello Rajveer,
You could wear an 8.5 in the Blacksmith if you measure 26cms. The leather will stretch width-wise especially if they get wet.
Im 10 US in Docs and 9 in Rangers. You'll want 8 probably.👍
Cool, very useful !
I went to RedWing. They didn’t have any wide sizes for me to try on. Sad face. But she did measure me and said I’m a 12 brannock... which would be fine if I were really tall, but no I’m a hobbit.
I fit in a 11EE pretty dang good.
Since the store didn’t have any wide sizes for me to try on I’m taking advantage of the free shipping and free returns at redwing heritage to try some shoesies on. I wanna see if I can fit into a moc toe 11EE
Good Luck.
Just curious...did you try on a 12D?
I am a size US10D in the 1907s (I use the insoles), would a size 10E be much to wide? Thanks
You would feel more comfortable with an insert.
Shoe twin also checking in. 8.5D in the 8 last and I like the 8.5E in the 23 last. Reverse those and you get my height. 5’8”! Oddly enough the work variant of the 875, the 10875, I feel is very wide fitting. The D feels like an Extra wide. Maybe my pair was missized. Great video btw.
Awesome, thank you!
I wear a size US10.5-11 for adidas/nike sneakers but for the red wing 875 i got a 9.5 E
59, did i win?
I wear 9.5 Beckmans, do you know what size weekender I wear?
A 10 would fit you. They are slightly narrow in the toes.
I was looking at buying online, But i guess I am going to have to go to a store and see what's up. I wear a 17 in Converse sometimes 16.5 16 in Nike when I used to wear nike, I only have worn High ton BB shoes since i was 14 and I am getting a little sick of it since I am 50 freaking years old now LOL.
Yeah, we need to get you in some boots!
I like your overviews. Your RW kix videos kick it. Does it make sense to you that I’d be a 7 (or 7.5 in Iron Rangers) when I normally wear an 8 or 8.5?
The 8 in Iron Ranger Cooper Rough n Tough I ordered & received just today were a whole inch too long on the left foot and 3/4” too long on the right one. Wow these shoes are boats. I wore a size 7 in 8th grade & im 40 now. Yipeeee for regression. Thanks
Yes, Red Wings run big.
Thank you for your support.
I wear a men's 8.5 in sneakers. Would you recommend a size 7 or 7.5 in iron rangers?
Very helpfull, i finally bought 875 moc toe in 10.5 D .. it feel comfortably snug, but i feel pain on my ankle .. i think it's because of the side of the tongue, any tips sir ?
Hello Ray, The tongue is gusseted so it would not slip unless it was somehow folded...
I would try not to lace them too tightly until the tongue softens/breaks-in.
@@CJCook I'll try it sir, thank you so much...
Thanks great video
I'm a size 8.5 in sneakers so should I go to 7.5?
depends: Iron Ranger or Moc Toe?
@@CJCook iron ranger..7.5 wide is what I'm thinking..I plan on running in them to break them in
@@CJCook another question..I got wide feet should I get the wide or get the regular and just stretch it out naturally? You think they might be too tight for regular?
@@jeremybarretta5282 If the wide is available then go with the wide.
what does 8 last mean?
I measure a 10D as well on the brannock and have 8.5 IR That fit perfectly, however I am having a major issue finding Mocs that fit well. I’ve had 9D, 9.5D, and 10D and all of them hurt my toe beside my pinky. Not a pinch, more like a width issue where after just a half hour it hurts to walk. I don’t know what to do anymore. I’ve tried 875 and 1907 and have the same issue in both. I’ve never been a wide in my entire life, but isn’t a 9 wide the same width as a 10D? Help!!
In Moc Toes 8.5E is the same as a 9D.
9.5E is a 10D
hi CJ, im one of avid subscriber and i would consider myself a boot guy. ive been longing that someday i could own an iron ranger unfortunately we dont have it here in this part of the world, would you mind if i ask a favor from ? if you could visit again in any red wing branch well yo be kind enough to measure the tip-to-tip outsole (heel-to-toe)
for sizes US 7, 7.5 and 8 Iron Ranger which ever is the narrowest width. its fine you cant. thanks
Sure, I can do that!
@@CJCook Thanks man! whenever you are free to do so, no rush.
Gecko Mabster you can email a red wing store directly, I am sure they can help u.
@@the.magnus thanks a lot! Seems the best thing to do.
What a sweet little dog
She really is!
Hola cj Cook , que tallas me recomiendas para unas classicc moe , mis pies miden exactamente 26 centímetros y para una iron rangers q número ya q la pediré en amazon, en México no las venden
Hola Oswaldo, te recomiendo la talle 9US en la Moc Toe y para las Iron Rangers 8.5US.
Entonces no vienen grandes las classicc moe como dicen otras personas ? Gracias comentar es de mucha ayuda
@@slayer8720091 yo uso 11US en Nike y Vans y las iron ranger en 9.5D me van bien. Tengo unos moc toe en 10D y me quedan un poco grandes.