Book of Mormon Archaeological Evidences Part II (feat. The ENTIRE Stick of Joseph Crew)
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My hubby went to visit his brother who was deployed with the AF there in Oman. They went to visit the "Land Bountiful" and went to the beach... where they saw a boat being made on the beach!!! My hubby came home with a model of the wooden boats that they make there. Super cool!
It's not a MM video without Kris Murphy trolling in the comments LOL
I love how Good Mormons embrace Free Speech. Mormons praise The Constitution, but when the pressure is on, THEY DESTROY PRINTING PRESSES. GwPoKo, you fit right in.
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KEEP UP TALKING ABOUT JESUS N HIS EVERLASTING GOSPEL IN THIS LATTER DAYS EE BLESS YOU GUYS HEART FOREVER OFAATU EEEEEEE
Jordan Borrowman is such a great dude. Knew his incredible parents. So happy to hear he’s involved in this. Wonderful talent!!
100% agree!
Interesting theory about Sariah age. However, in 1st Nephi chapter 18 verse 17 it talks about the parents being stricken in years. So I think Sariah was at least in her forties.
Hay guys , I like your show . I'm in the same boat your friend (Hippie Jesus is) not active in the church .But I still have a testimony of the book of Morman . I've been a member sence 1971 . thankyou for what your doing . God Bless .
Where is my “Ya know what I’m sayin’?” t-shirt?
Peter denied Christ because they did not have the gift of the Holy Ghost. That happened after Christ's resurrection. He had not received the full confirmation (Sure witness) until after that time. The Holy Ghost was fleeting before his resurrection to my understanding.
Yay for Edmonton...I'm from Lethbridge!!!!
In Luke 22:33 - 34 Peter tell Jesus that he will never deny Him and that's when Jesus tells him that before the cock crows he will deny Him thrice. Also in Mark 14:20, while Christ and His apostles were gathered, Jesus says that the one who dips into the bowl at the same time as He does, is the one who shall betray Him.
Surely y’all can Time Stamp the videos 👏👏👏
I’m thinking if nephi was younger Laban may have had a higher voice that could be a possibility.
How did he manhandle zoram? Was he also a teenager? 😂😂😂 ridiculous
Also fun video keep it up!
Next, please talk about all the linguistic evidence in South America of Reformed Eqytian or any other Middle Eastern languages found in South America. It should be fascinating! 🤔🙄
Thomas Ferguson started the department of Archeology at BYU. After 17 years of research he found no artifacts or evidence of the people or culture in the BOM. He left the department. He did discover the book VIEW OF THE HEBREWS.
He then left the church.
... also, ice cream causes drownings...
What are you always doing with your right hand reaching so far forward? And does your shoulder hurt? Because if it doesn’t now, it’s going to. Sincerely ergonomic Sadducee
I heard that they supposedly found "Beit Lehi" the home of Lehi a man that just vanished from his home town around 600 bc. Did they also find record of a man named Laban who was murdered and had his clothing, sword and valuable brass plates stolen from his home?
Victors write history, Lehi was hated by the establishment of his day hence why they wanted to kill him. Yeah, they really made sure to mention the prophet they hated in their records.
@@obiwonkanoli AND HOW MANY LEHIS WERE THERE??? OVER HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
@krismurphy7711 The name "Lehi" was unknown to historians prior to the BoM. If anyone in Jerusalem was named Lehi *at all,* it's proof that Joseph didn't just make it up.
@@hjohnson966 Lehi can be found in the Bible and in Adam Clarke's Bible commentary that was published prior to 1820. Your proof is not exactly proof. Now if they find the home of a man named Laban who was murdered and robbed then we might actually have proof.
@@hjohnson966Hate to burst your bubble but it's in the Bible (Judges 15:14)
Stick of Hoseph Bros you need to do a video and hook up with Wayne May and Rod Meldrom and do some on sight archeology sites with them on the heartland model.
Is that Nephite archeology next to Middle Earth?😂😂😂
Where's the discord link?
“To give the authors credit, they honestly cite the inscription word as Nihmite, without pretending it was ‘really’ Nahom. Yet despite this precise quotation, the story morphs and expands in popular retelling, until it becomes something like ‘The Book of Mormon describes a place in Arabia called Nahom. And now scientists have discovered inscriptions using the same name at that very place! Whoa!’ For Mormons, as for many other religious denominations, the Internet has vastly accelerated that process of folk-tale evolution, fueled by wishful thinking.”
Ooof. Except, not at all: th-cam.com/video/-hDu-iGZ1rk/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, that just isn’t true at all.
@@WARDRADIO Seems unfair that MM can post links in Comments, but we can't.
@@WARDRADIO Gee, how many ways is it spelled? I didn't think Jews spoke / wrote using vowels?
@@thestickofjoseph Which way is it spelled?? Close counts?
Nehem is NOT a burial site, it's a vast mountain range. And the ruins referenced in the video are in a completely different location that is NOT in Nehem. Moreover the ruins themselves are not at a specific site, but scattered all over the place, thousands of such sites, all over the country. Going back to Nehem, it doesn't match with the text of the BOM, which describes them as following a path along the coast of the Red Sea. About 140 miles of impassable mountain range separates Nehem from the coast.
Relatively few people care if the Book of Mormon is true. I heard David Archuleta's mom resigned from the church. That's what people are paying attention to today. Not a boring book about racist Israelites and their elephants or whatever it's about.
And yet here you are... commenting on every video we make...
@@WARDRADIO it's constructive criticism. I don't expect the hosts to deviate from their delusions or pretense of believing in the church. But some of your guests or followers may wake up someday, like David's mom did.
I don’t get it, why waste your precious energy on a church you hate so much? Go do some good somewhere.
@@kristinrichmond8185 I spend a lot less energy on the church now than when I was a member. I follow Mormon issues and apologetics because I live in Utah. It's an entertaining hobby and it's useful since Mormons infest every institution in this state still.
I don't get why Mormons always want people to stop criticizing the church. That's cult behavior...I do get it.
@@nathanbigler i can understand that we all have different kinds of hobbies. Hopefully you’ll be able to leave Utah and be happier.
1. NHM - not off to a strong start if this is #1 is it Nihmite or Nahom? For mormon purposes I understand why you are going with Nahom.
2. The land of Bountiful - You gave no details so I assume you mean that so many weathy people in Bountiful Utah are prospering because they are rightous.
3. Raw meat - Cool concept but proof it is not.
4. Swords/Caves - oooohh, not sure there is any proof there.
5. ????????? Come on guys Cardon even lowered the bar to 5 from 10.
Lost focus and started speculation/theories about ages of fictional characters that murdered Laban and stole from him.
I have seen Napolean's penis in the Ciaro museum, but I have not seen Labans head or arms of servants in any other museums. I am sure brutal people have dismembered people for lots of reasons including to promote God and the strength of his faithful servants.
Bruh, we have the maps of Nahom. It used to be based on an inscription, and that wasn't enough for you. So now we have actual medieval maps to confirm it. How them Ls taste, hater?
They said their aim is to explore the plausibility of the Book of Mormon, not to prove it definitively. They seem to have a good start fulfilling that aim
@@WARDRADIO There is no map with "Nahom" on it. There is a Book of Nahum in the Old Testament. There are multiple maps with multiple spellings...NONE "Nahom." And The Church has been talking about MAPS with derivatives of that general name since the 1970's. The carved altar-memorials refer to a Tribe-"Principality" per Gee. There is no positive conclusion...just a LOT of Faith Promoting SPECULATION
@@WARDRADIO where is the best place to learn more about the Nahom maps you are referring to?
I think they have an episode with John Gee and he owns the map that shows Nahom.
Long me here... did you guys say that the Muslims in Yemen don't believe in Jesus? Actually... a Muslim man told me that Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet and are waiting for Him to return. And, he said that the Muslims will follow Jesus when He does. And, my husband confirmed this with some of his Muslim friends. (Of course, they think Jesus is going to lead them to fight against the Jews, but that's a different story.) When my hubby asked his Muslim friends about it, my husband said that he was going to follow Jesus when He returns, too. And, one friend said, "Then, I guess we'll be on the same side...?" Suggestion from someone who has traveled and lived outside of the US. Please do some cultural reading and research before you leave!
In my opinion, the most compelling evidence for the Book of Mormon is that the principles it teaches about coming unto Christ are true (try it and see!), and the prophecies it makes about the gentiles (you and me) in the latter days are shockingly accurate.
It mirrors the New Testament?
@@krismurphy7711 not sure what you mean by this
@@ThomasFackrell It is not unique from the NT
@@krismurphy7711 one would certainly expect another testament of Jesus Christ to accord with the New Testament. In the mouth of two or three witnesses. The more the merrier!
@@ThomasFackrell You tried to portray it as something special or unique. It is basically just another New Testament. I have never come across anybody who said wow until I read the book of Mormon I had never heard of Jesus Christ now I believe in him
Where is my “Ya know what I’m sayin’?” t-shirt?
The FamilySearch link to Jesus being married keeps moving around because it is a prank and the church does remove it when they find it.
Also, you can find an Odin married to a Frigga in the Scandinavian lines.
Brad the scriptures say he spoke with the voice of Laban (divine intervention maybe?) 28:17
There are 8th graders who grow facial hair and over 6 ft tall with low voice. So Nephi could be 14 at the start. My 14 year old son has a pretty deep voice. My 12 year old nephew has a deep voice and he’s always had a sort of deep voice.
So a 14 year old kills Laban and then grabs Zoram, which is a good assumption was not a teenager, and holds him and forces him to go with him? 😂😂😂
I am suprised that you did not start your arcaeological tour with a stop in SLC to see the seer stone. That is the one tangible relic relating to the BOM. Granted, it no longer works but at least you can hold it and touch it.
Got to have a Hat to put it in to "work."
Wasn’t the seer stone found in the bottom of a well by Joseph? Or are you referencing the Urim and Thummim? I do t think they have the Urim and Thummim, they only have the seer stone which is not a BOM relic. It was Joseph’s looking glass that he used for many things.
@@chubbuck35 He found his one of his peep stones/seer stones at the bottom of a well. But, the "interpreter" Moroni gave JS, which only later was conflated with the Urim and Thummim, is like the golden plates and Labans sword not available as a relic of the Nephite people.
So, Yes all we have is a rock.
Totally killer trailer. Way to be, boys!!!
“So if we were in a triclinium, we’d be leaning on the table like this, and we’d be eating like this…”
•Brad takes bite• •grins•
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Please get don bradley on! His story of reconversion is great. Lost 116 pages is well researched and well written.
I guess I'm confused I always thought the immaculate conception referred to Jesus's birth but it is the doctrine that states Mary was born without sin. This makes the virgin birth of Jesus different.
If this theory of Judas is correct... seems like this would be another example if how God consecrates our iniquities to His benefit.
If your t-shirts are falling apart after 7 or 8 washes, try air drying rather than putting in the dryer. If you're already air drying then aahhh-shit!
No evidence for BOM.
Judas was pulling a Paul: Thinking he had the wherewithal to protect Jesus (Judas had political connections and insights he believed he could use to 'protect' Christ from a worse fate (he was concerned with what he perceived was swirling around as threats to Jesus). Paul was 'lying' to maintain his ability to stay close to 'protect' Christ, not realizing by doing so, he was fulfilling Christ's prophesy. His 'hurt' was in recognizing his hubris challenging Christ. Remember, he was the President of the Church after Christ died - he was being prepared.
Hugh nibly suggests that the story of Ammon and the
Limbs was a wicked game that was played and the losers lost their lives so Ammon played by his own rules and brought sword while the others only had clubs. The brother of the one Ammon killed had a sword so hugh surmised this was a ritual game of 29:55
I actually found Jesus in my family tree a few weeks ago.. I have a picture of it because it was interesting.
I also found King Arthur which was just fun to see.
God the father is in mine...
It might be helpful to explain what the Stick of Joseph refers to....as in Ezekiel 37 :15-19. Maybe you have already done this & I missed that episode. Sorry if that's the case.
I’m actually a descendant of Jesus according to family search!
My cousin Larvell claims that as well
How was Cardon involved in this Stick of Joseph project? We’re you directing it, or doing the cinematography?, or something like that?
Directing
@@WARDRADIOThe Whole LDS organization is nothing but a lie, Joseph Smith wasn't a prophet and he's going to the lake of 🔥, but you still have theses Mormons going Around still spreading his lies because the Mormons were never a church it's a religious Cult playing church and have Deceived Millions just like the Roman Catholic Church has
If you want to have someone part of your faith to discuss archeology okay I think that's warranted. But please have an archeologist not connected to discuss what they think. It is a bit of an echo chamber...you believe so you have a believer on.
I am fairly certain any archeologist not connected to your faith will laugh and say of course the BoM is fiction/made up....but hey feel free to prove me wrong!
Well done Pastor Jeff. And that's why Joseph was confused in 1820.
This was great! One question... how on Earth can anybody believe the Book of Mormon is worthy of accepting; unless they accept that Joseph Smith was a true prophet?
Are you certain that immaculate conception was artificial incimination?
51:05 Elder Holland said almost as much
Dope podcast
I claim copy right on that lamp! 🪔
Anthropologist Tom Murphy
Just wondered why THE BOOK OF MORMON HAS NO MAPS IN THE BACK LIKE BIBLES?
ANY IDEA?
EVEN PROJECTED ARCHEOLOGICAL SITES,WITH LIKE THE LAND BETWEEN THE LAKES,THE NIAGARA PENINSULA CANADA WHERE I WAS BORN 73YEARS AGO?😢
I just realized, if the age of marriage is true and those not married by 24 were “accursed of God”, then Jesus would have been married? I saw your quotes from Jewish writings on the subject of marriage. Was that more modern or true at time of Nephi and Jesus?
I read an article in a magazine in the late 1990's. A teenage girl was looking for advice on how to talk to her parents. She said she and her boyfriend were fooling around but never had intercourse. "Something" shot and landed too close to "something else" and she got pregnant.
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Wait that’s the movie Juno
@@whatever1210I don't remember Juno that way but the article definitely came first.
justjamie7577. I'm skeptical of that story; but., it isn't the same as Jesus Christ's conception. In the story there was a man's sperm involved. In Jesus Christ's story there was no sperm from being sexual.
@@Hamann9631 I don't know if the story is true but the advice given to this girl was to tell her parents she "thought" she was being careful and "thought" she was doing the right thing by avoiding intercourse so it sounded legitimate to me. The Bible tells of what God does but doesn't always tell how God does it. It doesn't tell how God made the sun , moon and earth only that he did. It says God made Adam from the dust of the earth but never says how plants and animals were made. Did he form them from the dust of the earth? Maybe, but that would be an assumption. And what is meant by dust? Did God literally swipe some dust off a rock and form Adam or is dust a metaphor for tiny particles like atoms since ancient people had no concept of atoms? The Bible says Jesus Christ is begotten of the Father. What does begotten mean? It means fathered both in English and in the biblical text. Genesis has a long list of so-and-so begat so-and-so. Sperm is neither included or excluded in the text about Jesus's conception. You can assume sperm was not present because it is not mentioned, you can also presume sperm was present because that's what begotten means. We are all flawed human beings and are all guilty of assuming and presuming when the text is ambiguous.
Brad, I've got to correct something you said, or at least implied. Whether Abraham married Hagar by God's commandment or just by Sarah's suggestion because she didn't believe the messenger who said she wound bear a son in her advanced age, but she believed them enough that Abraham would be the father of nations. So she told Abraham to marry Hagar and he had a son by her. The suggestion came from Sarah, not from God. Don't quote me Section 132. Section 132 directly contradicts the Bible and the BoM on some critical points, so is a mistake. I don't want to get into a discussion about that just now. But to say that Katurah is proof that Abraham was a polygamist is not true. He married her after Sarah died. My wife died 8 years ago and i married my current wife 5 years ago. This does not a polygamist make. Neither does Katurah.
Sorry, brother. 132 is true. th-cam.com/video/HWX4Ynn0Bsw/w-d-xo.html
@@WARDRADIO Then why did Joseph violate it? Hide the first 22 "marriages" from his First Wife Emma???
@@WARDRADIO I had watched the video in your link when it first came out and watched it again just now. It does nothing to counteract my statement that it (section 132) is a mistake. I don't know if it came from Joseph or later. That's not an issue with me. There are people like that bearded dude who are "hung up" on whether Joseph practiced polygamy or not. I'm not. My problem is with that section itself. I don't think it came from God. I'll try to explain.
If Joseph was a polygamist, and 132 was his creation, it was to justify his practice. If he wasn't a polygamist, then it came later to justify those who came after him. Joseph wasn't perfect, and could have gotten caught up in polygamy. I don't know. But in my mind, it doesn't negate the many other things he accomplished as the prophet of the restoration. But here's the problem i have with 132.
Let me start with an illustrative example. If the prophet or one of the apostles got up in conference and read what he said was a revelation and asked that it be sustained as a new section in the D&C that said this; king Noah was a righteous and benevolent ruler except he kept large cats on a chain and he should have been nicer to his kitty cats. For one thing, cats on a chain is based on a famous painting and not from the text, and for another everything we know about him from the scripture shows he was anything but righteous. Such a "revelation" would be extremely suspect.
This is the problem with 132. New on-going revelation, "further light and knowledge", is a mainstay of our faith. It adds to and clarifies. It shouldn't flat out contradict something that is plain and simple that needs no clarification. In my example, if the new revelation really was from God, He would know that the big cats on chains was only an artist's depiction and was not scriptural. Section 132:1, 37 lists Isaac and Moses among a group of biblical polygamists. Isaac definitely was not, and, though there's room for debate, Moses likely wasn't. If 132 was from God, and not from the mind of whatever man wrote it, He would know that and wouldn't have made that mistake. But, even more egregiously, Jacob 2:24 unambiguously says that the fact that David and Solomon had many wives and multiple concubines "... which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord". Yet, section 132:38-39 says exactly the opposite, that their many wives and concubines were given them by God, and David's sin was in having Uriah killed. Section 132 is not clarification of Jacob. It's in direct opposition to it. Either the Bible and Book of Mormon are correct, or section 132 is. They can't both be. Personally, I choose to be on the side of the Bible and BoM.
That's why I say, regardless of who wrote it, Section 132 is not of God and is therefore a mistake.
@@larryofaz6502 Precisely well put. It is an unambiguous complete contradiction of Jacob 2:24.
@@WARDRADIO misinformation
I''m still waiting for "archaeological EVIDENCES" that the Book of Mormon is true. Faith Promoting SPECULATION so far.
Don't you have a better, healthier way of spending your free time?
@@guidadiehl9176 Why does the LDS Church send out tens of thousands of teens to knock on doors telling everyone they they represent the "One True Church."??? As long as Mormons feel they can SPEAK, I can too. Except I won't leave out the moneydigging frauds...or marriages to VERY Young Teen Girls.
@@guidadiehl9176 Some of us NOW have a testimony that Early Church History proves Joseph Smith was a fraud. Some of us are Intellectually Honest and demand The Church tell the WHOLE TRUTH...and even do so in The Essays they previously published. One would think that a Christian Church, THE ONE TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST, would practice 100% ACCURACY AND HONESTY???
The church shuts up and leaves when people ask them to...
@@WARDRADIO Tell me (prove it) that what I'm saying is not TRUE or ACCURATE and I will go away.
The terms Mormon, evidence and Archaeology should never be mentioned in the same sentence. Your ignorance about historic facts and your devotion to this fake religion is at best simply ridiculous. Having said that I must also say I have nothing against you personally and I hope you will eventually educate yourself and find the way to the truth, hopefully away from any religion.