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Sun Seeker Fat Tad Electric Trike Review - 2.4k
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 มี.ค. 2017
- The Sun Seeker Fat Tad is a full suspension, fat tire, recumbent electric trike designed for off-road fun on trails, sand or snow, powerful 500 watt rear-motor with throttle and pedal assist modes. Adjustable length boom and tilting seat accommodate a range of riders, large backlit display offers adjustable speed and power settings but isn't removable. Rear-mounted battery and motor make the bike rear-heavy but afford space for bags and there are four pairs of bottle cage bosses for fluids or accessories. Heavier and a bit flexy due to the larger wheels and battery rack mount design, this is a conversion ebike vs. purpose built so there's more wire clutter, key must be left in to ride but collides with the rack if you pull the battery out for independent charging.
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I found this to be a good sound review about the bike, the company, customization, etc. I don’t understand why some are complaining about the time - he talks pleasantly - not fast, not too slow. He is doing a review - not a boom bang used car deal. I think some people today just don’t have the art of conversation - making or understanding. In addition, their attention spans are deficiently - I assume it is due to texting, twitter, facebook, snapchat whatever with all the abbreviations, memes, etc that they just can’t absorb normal conversation - I find it very sad. The bad thing is most of these people just zone out and aren’t able to retain what is given to them - oral or written. Anything over 5-10 minutes is too much for them. They have the same issue in being able to read articles, books, watch a movie and tell you later what the fine points were. They can’t even carry verbal messages accurately. You can almost watch their eyes roll back in their heads - like a stoner from the 60s. Ask them a question - “I don’t know man - what happened dude”. This review was long, but a lot of information was provided - it was like sitting around with a friend as opposed to a robot or a news report. At the price for these bikes - I like getting a thorough discussion and not being rushed. I like his going over the bike and then the test ride(s) and having the input of the other guy too. As he talked, in several places he made me think of some other bikes I needed to reinvestigate before making a purchase. Good job - will check out more of your reviews. Nice job young man from a “old lady”.
haha...great comment. I have this fat tad. Some people (on this thread) are simply not worthy of owning such a great recumbent. It's an honor and a privilege to be able to ride this beast and not for anyone with a poor attitude. Anyone who gets impatient with someone giving a comprehensive review about such an amazing product best stay off the internet.
rosebudforglory -Well, said 👏🏽
Exactly. Want videos of bikes/trikes/ebikes? How many gazillion out there.
Want lots of details, specifics, and also the Professionals that Build the bikes/trikes, because you ain’t here for TH-cam biking video #1142...within just the last year.
Me, I’m doing high level Adulting Fun Research, for a companion to my RAD Mini. Maybe I’ll go look at some stock film videos of just bicycles moving later, but prob I’ll be actually riding one. Just the way I roll, and great content guys. We appreciate your effort, time, wisdom, and editing f’g video. Such an odd chore, said the filmmaker guy. Peace...
When he points out the obvious like "it's red", that to me isn't telling something I don't already know.
i have this fat tad....put thousands of miles on it the last 1 and a half years. It's a serious head turner that will make you seek out crowds regardless of where you live. it's great having thousands of people cheer you one when you're riding. highly addictive quite frankly. lol I also dropped 70 lbs in a year riding this thing. yep ....i was and continue to be...fanatical.....Shoot me any questions you have as i will see the notification. i read a couple comments here with the dumbest one being 'too expensive'. Maybe if you're a homeless bum it might be but in fact it's one of the cheapest recums on the market *and* makes you look more bad-ass than the expensive ones. If you're after speed and nothing but speed then don't get this...or get it but make sure you get the e-assist. Im going to stop now or I will write a book. ;>
What's the RANGE on one charge, full speed? Why didn't he say that - that's what electric cars always say - the RANGE. Holy smokes. Listened to the WHOLE vid and no mention of the range?
@@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 it's not so easy to give a precise answer. It depends on too many factors. If you are lazy and let the motor do all the work and you ride up a few hills the battery might be empty after 30 miles. If you use pedal assist mostly only to accelerate and drive it in flat terrain than 60 and more miles will be possible.
@@chrisridethatbloodything2044 I had an internal hub British 3 speed that I rode every day for 10 miles on average - year round for 10 years in severe winter weather also - never once had to do any maintenance on it!
I'm really glad I found this channel. Great reviews and fantastic personalities. I have mild cerebral palsy and have been through my fair share of Trikes. I'm hoping to get a Fat Tire eTrike in the near future. Been focusing on the Electric Mid-Drive Fat Trike. Might take awhile but I really want to make it happen.
xD this is the most unique design I've ever seen for a bike
awesome vid! Penna State Park! Beautiful place. What an incredible e bike, very futuristic! That is so cool! Feel better!
With a backup petrol generator, I can travel around the country with this beautiful trike. Great job.
You could build a sunroof from flexible Solarpanels and a small wind deflector in front. This way you can get about 150 watt solar on it. Since its possible to get away with a consumption of 150 watt per hour if you doing some pedaling by yourself and a low electric assistance it might be possible to extend the range to infinite
You get the impression they are true enthusiasts and would take care of you and help you
A Lot of people with disabilities would love to be able to get one, and heavy weight people too. Sadly it is too expensive. I would love one, I love bikes, definetively with a cargo behind.
i like this trike a lot! this is great for an e-bike style because you can sit and basically lounge while you ride. almost a little mini car.
I liked the video straight away because you told the audience when you start riding it
This is cool.
I got a 212cc engine on a kent alameda trike, goes 42Mph, and is a lot of fun.
I think strapping my engine to one of these would be just as fun
I've got a 1301cc KTM Adventure bike that makes 160+hp. It goes alright.
NOW THIS IS POD RACING!
This video’s a couple years old and the trike in question has gone up to about $3200, but I need this machine.
I would love to ride that on fresh snow this winter. I just bought a new black new Trek Dual Sport Plus so I'm pretty stoked to ride that.
I rode the Auzb Fat trike for 10.000 km across Europe and Africa. And a Auzb tricon 20" for 30.000 km across Europe and Asia. No motor on both. I will soon start a new long trip across Europe and Asia on a Azub Fat
Thanks for this interesting video Bro ! Greetings from France .
I had a peddle-only tad. The one problem was that quick stops would cause the rear end to flip up. With added weight from the battery and a pannier mounted in the rear, I doubt that would occur with quick stops.
I just bought an electric bike ... I'm 7 miles from Neshaminy State park ... will have to go visit. Thanks for the video
Cattrike are the only tadpoles I recommend. Besides having the most models they also have the best support..which EVERYBODY is going to need.
This is what Professor X and Logan were saving up for.
Ha! Loved that movie... laughed at your comment ;)
Pedaling seems pointless. Why bother?
“I’m You: Pedaling seems pointless. Why bother?”
The answer seems quite easy. Wanting to exercise as much as possible is why most folks would be glad the manufacturer bothered. For folks who are relatively healthy but just starting out on an exercise program: they could find the electric motor quite helpful when maybe they reach their endurance limit sooner than expected; maybe they decided to go a little further than originally planned (visit a friend, go to the library/store, etc.); or maybe a new route had more hills. There could be many reasons for even healthy folks to enjoy the the option to pedal or use full electric. However, for those who are medically and/or physically disabled - a bike such as this can be a vital component of their exercise program and drastically improve their lifestyle. Let’s say you have a severe autoimmune disease with multiple co-morbidities with no way to gauge which days will be good or bad - you just take them as they come. Some days, you may have more breathing difficulty; other days may bring severe cramps throughout your body; if you have stenosis/sciatica - a simple turn or bend can cause it to flare w/o warning and almost incapacitates you. In addition, there are days where you think you can handle the heat, cold, or humidity and you find yourself more affected than expected. Maybe the weather changes abruptly, or you become dizzy, or nauseated and you want/need to get home faster. Whatever the issue, and they can be numerous when you are ill with severe/chronic disease(s); however, because you know exercise is vital to your mental and physical being - you want to be able to do so with as much security and independence as possible. A bike such as this, where you have the option to either work hard, or sit back and enjoy the view, can be a definite life changer! So Mr/Mrs I’m You - hopefully, you can now see why many people are glad the manufacturer “bothered” to give them a dual function device.
@@plips71755 Yes indeed. I'm in a wheelchair and I wish I could have a bike like that. I could do a lot more.
The peddling starts at 19:20.
I saw it in the beginning 😂
Pedalling. Peddling is selling.
Most folks can’t afford all the time and effort to make serious quality just for “fun”. Said nobody ever that wasn’t a glutton for esp editing punishment...and I AM NOT ENTERTAINED! All Me type of insightful and helpful feedback, commentary.
I’m a spoiled American too...just not like that, and I know how surviving via ways like here, elsewhere, well good luck surviving by posting Bikes Moving content. Besides, what most come here for isn’t for pretty pictures, but critical Facts, Information, Details esp from pro’s and builders, mechanics.
If there’s any confusion it seems, Search “bike videos”. You may get some little kids videos I’m there, but hey it’s mostly all superficial anyway, unless it’s a Road Teat video, Esp Off Road test video. Hint: savvy content creators communicate a Lot in the title, graphics, helps load.
Apparently, there’s an Insane amount of videos of bikes/trikes/ebikes, well again, Moving and shit. Across crazy things like pavement & grass, in large part. Like all our childhoods just, on TV or soemthing🤔 IDK, not my fascination, but many gazillions for those that need movement.
Many prob not of us at these levels of investment and also many times already invested in ebikes, we Want lots of details, specifics, facts, things to know not known and think of not thought of, Basic Bike Research 101 really.
And ESP here straight from the Professionals that actually Build the bikes/trikes? Forgeddaboutit it!
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Because we ain’t here for (an obviously not a big road test nor snow nor sand nor off-roading etc) TH-cam biking video. I think I’m at video #1142 of Watching Bikes Move videos...within just the last year. It’s has its place, again esp in videos actually made for such purpose not this video’s purpose.q
Me, I’m doing high level Adulting Fun Research, for a companion to my RAD Mini. Maybe I’ll go look at some stock film videos of just bicycles moving later, but prob I’ll be actually riding one. Just the way I roll, and great content guys. We appreciate your effort, time, wisdom, and editing f’g video. Such an odd chore, said the filmmaker guy. Peace...
And gosh, I hope your algorithms stay healthy, while all these people just skip over 20 Entire Minutes of your content measured so detailed by YT. And right over all actually important stuff, at least for those that didn’t come here to be visually stimulated. Hope not huge changes to your stats. Tough crowd, but hey...America, gotta love us!
@@manicirishwriter Calm down my man.
So they're going out of business, and that's lucky because they definitely have a plan for you to buy your spares elsewhere for about 1 year then throw the whole thing away and buy your kid a new one. ;)
and your kid will need to get used to the rear axle chattering, tilting, rotating around the longitudinal axis, causing himself to have more "off roading fun" than you had planned! XD
You ALMOST caught some AIR little bro! 🤏😏
Looks like a fun Christmas present for those who can afford, and I have no problem with that at all!
SMILES , like good roast potatoes, are priceless. 🎄🎉🥰
This video is from 2017 and they mention a base price of $2,500. Now in 2021this same trike has a base price of a little over $4,000 and if you start adding a few options your looking at $4,500 plus shipping.
& it's one of the cheaper tads
Mounting the battery high on a swingarm will make it wobble constantly. Consider mounting acrossways behind the seat as low as possible- an adapter bracket will need to be made obviously. Best not to have a high centre of gravity over the rear wheel- just makes it easier to tip.
Myself I'd try to buy 2 batteries and mount and mount one on either side of the wheel. Double the range with added stability.
Your ebike reviews are awesome. I like the fact that when you review full suspension bikes you mention the flex of the rear swing arm. this is a very important detail that I believe a lot of people overlook just to say they have a full suspension bike. do you think that trike had too much Flex in its rear suspension?
that chain flopping around like that kinda freaks me out.
Probably an effect of the electric rear wheel driving the chain rather than the pedals and chain driving the rear wheel.
This company wants their customers very happy and also safe. Options for "needs" that are necessary for "awesome people"!
Does it wants it workers happy? assembled in slave labor conditions probably.
Nice I have been waiting for a official review on this one.
Good Stuff!!!!!
Sweet! Thanks for your patience, I filmed it a while back but have been mixing the trikes in steadily for variety ;)
as always great review Court!
@23:40 such wonderful footage in thrid person view - especially when he pedals towards your camera
Much agreed on the weight concerns of the back rack. Overall this thing has the right power and price. Looks like it rides hard even with fat tires. I have an ELF and the front suspension looks similar. Meaning it may suck off road ride-wise. A good pot hole is worse than anything in this video. I like the gearing. I've had bad luck with internal gear systems. A nice thumb throttle that can be adjusted in small increments is a major plus...nice advantage to buying American. Love the open system mode for techies. My big issue with trikes is I like getting as far onto the side of the road as possible, even country roads. And 2 wheels get you like 3 feet further off the road and out of the travel lane. I still want one of these tho. PS: faster is safer on public roads..fewer cars catch up to pass close by the direction you're going. You can squirt fast through certain situations too. Just one opinion. It's nice to also have a bike you can ride with traffic, right out in the road, in 25mph zones but that's kind of a pipe dream even with faster ebikes.. Friggin guy still giggles like a kid on these things and despite riding hundreds of e bikes has not become smug or jaded
J Clar I'm afraid I have to disagree with several of your points. Firstly, riding as close to the kerb/edge as possible is asking for trouble whatever cycle you use. You need room to maneuver and be away from grit, stones, mud, glass and drains that tend to be at road edges. Secondly, these trikes tend to be 30-34 inches wide at their widest point. Bicycles tend to be widest at their handlebars, and in practice most bikes are only a couple of inches narrower than trikes. A bike is only as narrow as it's widest point, no matter where the wheels are. Thirdly, speed is not that important with traffic. What really matters is predictability, combined with common sense and conspicuity. I can assure you, trikes get noticed by motorists, they tend to be given far more room and shown a lot more consideration than normal upright cycles. I speak from experience and almost everyone who rides one says the same.
recumbent trikes are nice if you have back issues.
From a distance it looks like a off road wheel chair! 😂
traxxxasdude15 As the Electric Trikes guy said, they get a lot of varying disabilities type folks for these. It’s a large part of this market, and many quad and tricycle bikes - also not just bikes vehicle - have come out in part or entirely for the market. There’s some wild machines out there being show all over YT, but they’re like $5K to $18K etc.
Chain tube is needed for the lower part in the back to keep it from slapping the ground when on bumpy terrain.
That thing looks like a blast to ride around.
it doesn't suck
I want the other trike with the basket! I hope Sondors comes out with one!
Seems pretty durable.. Rear chain slap seems excessive-- Very surprised the chain didn't come off.. Surprised the software is so open to the end user..
Well...I ride both. I think you are right that a bicycle is wider than people think a matter fact they're bigger than people think in general but obviously it's substantially less wide than a three wheeler. But here's the thing. I'm trying to imagine why I said what I did because it just seems a lot narrower and the more I think about it the more I realize that when the roads have just a little margin on the side only about a foot wide... I'm happier riding in that little area on my bicycle then I would be on my trike. I feel like I'm protected by that white line. To an extent that's just subjective but I think it's also subjective to the drivers and it creates a nice Line in the Sand for us. But moreover, bicycles take up much less space on side of the road then trikes then their size is smaller than them because to ride so close to the edge on a trike would require one wheel hanging off into the dirt
Great vid. Nice bike. I think I would be more comfortable with the seat back further though. Looked front heavy
Bad idea to put the battery on suspension arm. The idea of the suspension is to build the suspension arm as lighter as possible.
putting weight above the drive train wheel helps with climbing
19:12 you’re welcome.
I've wanted to build one of these forever because it looks like it would be a blast. But they sit so low to the ground and it scares me people will not pay attention
Good thorough understandable review, and pleasant presentation. Wondered about the chain; it seemed to be bouncing very low to the ground in the rear when trike's underway. It seems hazardous for the bike and that it could use protection.
Excellent review. Keep them coming.
Happy watching this, very helpful, but Addmotor semi recumbent M360 electric trike works better for me.
The little post that is cut off right above the rear shock... if that were extended in a swooped out, flowing line towards the rear... that would be the place to mount the battery and rack mounts. Not on the suspension arm.
Great explanation. Of this totally awesome vehicle
Nice review with the cool bike dude.
It would be perfect for an ultra-light airplane kit
I need this in my life.
That guy looks like the comic book store guy from the big bang theory lol
Ha! love that show
Bang on - but should have gotten a bit closer face up so we could see nose hairs and black heads better :)
Cheers, Patrick
Stewart! LMFAO
I was wondering who else thinks this.
Jordan Smith people
I.
Это настоящая и отличные электронные велосипед побольше бы в производств. Держит равно веси и безопасности колёс стандарт и красивые . четирехколосный была бы очень классно.Спасибо за инструкцию и инструкторов
Great trike by company.. they care about their customers.
I need to get one of these I am a disabled vet.
Each of the three wheels should have a 1000 watt motor. That way it could be driven like a rocket sled!
You only go as fast as your slowest motor
Now that looks like fun!
I was planning on buying one of these but they are out of stock and expect a limited incoming supply at end of July. Inventory management is critical in the retail business.
I really enjoy your reviews
that bracket over the right rear axlenut is to protect the motor cable from getting cut
Nice bike. Price is good for what you get.
hope you're feeling better cort. Good job. keep it up.
A lot of comments do not reflect a knowledge of tad pole recumbent trikes. As a current Greenspeed Magnum owner, this an interesting option for a second trike rather than converting my Greenspeed. The big question is are the parts open source? If the hub motor has a problem can it use standard Bafang parts or other open source motors? In this cottage industry of e-bikes, if the company making the bike goes out of business, is the end user out of luck? That is why open source is important compared to proprietary. Think Bionex.... same question for controller and battery?
Really great review.
I had a fat tire E-Bike and the ammount of people staring at me or yelling at me about my bike was crazy. People would yell Thats a sick bike man! Or what the fuck is that? A dirt bike?
Some people like attention but I don't really so I sold the bike. I cant imagine how much attention this bike would get
That's an interesting point, depending on where you live and how much you like to interact with strangers this e-trike could be... interesting to own ;)
A recumbent gathers attention by itself. I started building my own a few years ago and besides mine I know of no other ones in a 50 mile radius. I get comments on it all the time, luckily about 99% positive. I live out in the middle of nowhere so most of my riding is open roads. When I am around a bunch of people it's normally on a trail or in town and I tend to use my + sized mountain bike. Its weird in it's own right but being a normal bike people don't look at it as close.
This nice very nice specially those fat tires. Peace and love to all...
After suffering an incident of "leg suck" when my foot slipped off the pedal on a test trike, the first thing i would do is change the pedals. I would never ride a trike without securing my feet to the pedals
Very nice! Hope the cold is better now 😀
Oh yeah, thanks Dave, this was filmed a while back but I was saving my favorite for last ;)
I want ride this to my office..so cool..I like it
soooo cool. im inspired. great price
I agree not a bad price. When u compare it to a carbon fiber 12 speed these days. Ur paying sometimes twice as much. For actually so much less. And the comfort level. No comparison lol
Nice video... But one suggestion... Pls always start your video with action... Ride the bike in the beginning then explanation.... I think that might get you more likes.
If they extend it for 2 seats with 4 batteries ,
then it will be unstoppable masterpiece ,,
Funny the same tires came with my Ecotric folding bike I use to ride a Rans Rocket Recumbent which i loved i wish they can make a folding Rans Rocket with a motor i would by one.
thank you sir ,feel better .
I'm in love with this bike👏👏❤❤😍😍, I live in Brazil and I want to know if the store makes international sales
Despite appearances, this beast has design flaws. Rear traction is terrible, it desperately needs mudguards on all three wheels. Here's a pic of mine
th-cam.com/video/u_ui_NG34bs/w-d-xo.html
Hey really like this recumbant. I'm wondering about getting one shipped to Australia? Cost and everything.
Oh yeah should add excellenct reveiw by the way you have a really good style of reviewing and going through details.
I had one, and wouldn't recommend it. The rear tire losses traction going up hills. Terrible!
@@gt3910 Now you got me wondering if it is the same with all tadpole type recumbants
Muito bom esse veículo. Muito bem construído.
Boa noite....otimo projeto....parabens....o mundo precisa de ideias iguais a essa...inovadoras que ajudem a preservar o meio ambiente e a nossa propria existencia...nao e?
Time to ride! 19:00, I don't know needs mud guards...
And need to test going up hills! Some motors, kind of suck at hills...got to admit, looks like a good commuter bike, won't be able to take any bus though...$2.3k
might be cool to have a summary video and a deep dive video for these reviews. After about 3 minutes I'm ready to see you ride it - 18 min @ still talking....
EDIT. yep, interesting vid shots. fun watching the other guy ride it. Might be time for more cameras if revenue justifies.
Very good review, muy only thought is the chain bounces way to much and could be a problem.
I think he might have been using full throttle at that time
noticed that as well, full power ya, but also possibly related to chain length setup ( one's inseam of 34 " vs 28" ) ....would like to hear how much adjustment is available in the front boom vs chain slack. also like to start seeing a measurement of lateral-G's on trike reviews. nonetheless very good review, price seems okay, just concerned that Heavy Duty Torque Arm is attached with a 99 cent hose clamp...
@@bikeguyirl4443 should make no difference with a hub motor ;-)
What do you think of the Practical Pod Ride bicycle watching you guys progress for some time now really love your theories and you're different bicycles and was just curious what your opinion was on the Pod Ride?😁⭐😉
I wonder about the handlebar position. It looks like it forces your hands way high, with your elbows splayed out and back. Also, if you rode in wet weather, it looks like your hands and armpits would catch the main spray from the front wheels. It looks like the rear suspension puts the wheel way, way behind the seat. Maybe the battery over the rear wheel is needed for traction.
Do you ship to Canada.
I'm on the west coast and this looks good to me but this video is four years old.
What is the clearance from the ground?
What is the max speed and range?
Sondors makes ebikes that are affordable for everyone!
I saw problem with chain, he is jumping and jumping.... it's problem with rear derailleur ?
Great Information
The steering is called direct steering as opposed to via linkages which is underseat and called indirect steering. Their top guy didn't know that?? That little sprocket is a chain tensioner, not for clearance.
Thanks for an entertaining and informative review. My question is how would you transport this trike to various trails or into the shop for a tune-up?
I think you'll need a long bed pickup truck or a cargo van, something pretty big.
Easy-Load Ramp up into a truck/van/mini-van or Easy-Load Tray rack on the back of a vehicle.
Starting some research on a fat tire trike. Looking for a better way to get some winter exercise. Out of curiosity, does the battery pack come with a way to use with accessories? i.e., can you charge a phone from it or power a lighted safety flag for roadway rides?
looks good practical no sore bottoms,, does it have front brakes..well done...congradulations..
that thing is awesome!! looks like u could almost fit a passenger
I like the. The three wheeler.
Great review
That...
That is just nice.
Really nice...
Seems like a lot to twist in that rear fork assembly when off road. Not sure how durable that would be long term if you spend a lot of time off the pavement.
Seems like a really reasonable price for that bike. It's cool that they are so disability friendly, I have a blind friend that would love one of these.
seriously?
YES. I WOULD.
Looks like a real leg breaker !!
fat;. Americans make great things. I would make a boxtrailer for it, put a screen /roof on it and propose it to UPS, US Postal or to Fedex as a delivery utility vehicle. Makes sens for package delivery in small streets and inner cities like London, Paris Brussels Cologne Hamburg Frankfurt Madrid Lisboa Warsau. Very cool.
Move battery to behind seat. Add tire fenders, better rear suspension bearings ( way too much sideways movement), better chain tensioners& chain guards. Also, would 4 wheels be better at this point? It's already pretty heavy, much more turning stability..
Quick question;
I've been going through most of your videos to learn about electric bikes as I'm hoping to get one soon.
Problem being that I live in Europe and most of the bikes you're reviewing aren't available here. And a surprising amount of manufacturers don't ship to Europe either (I asked....)
Bikes like the radrover/populo/juiced bikes crosscurrent(or Air)/voltbike yukon/etc are the ones that really interest especially at the pricepoint of those bikes (1000-1500) and the design of the bikes.
Do you have any experience with perhaps European equivalents to those bikes? or list a few I can have a look at?
Cheers.
Why is there nothing like this in the UK for disabled or limited mobility persons?