Zuma vs Ramaphosa: 18 May 2023

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  • @bonganisopam
    @bonganisopam ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Do judges follow Dali Mpofu's arguments coherently? I'm struggling.

    • @SonOfTheSoil834
      @SonOfTheSoil834 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The language they talking is too complicated for you due to your lack of law knowledge don’t worry

    • @lugisanimufamadi
      @lugisanimufamadi ปีที่แล้ว +4

      of all the lawyers Dali seems 2 be the only one who is vague bcoz he's playing political games instead of the law.

    • @SonOfTheSoil834
      @SonOfTheSoil834 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lugisanimufamadi 100% agree with you 🙏🏽he is an exceptional lawyer but his heart for politics affect his professional roles

    • @HRHSiyathokozaMweli
      @HRHSiyathokozaMweli ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@SonOfTheSoil834 i understand law but I’m also lost.

    • @SonOfTheSoil834
      @SonOfTheSoil834 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Uthando-h1q jah the cases he deals with not for kids in law hey and that’s why he is trusted in handling them as an advocate ,SENIOR counsil

  • @ntuthuko3175
    @ntuthuko3175 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm impressed by Mpofu's calculation of 73 years at 43:12. I really am.

  • @kenricwalters3424
    @kenricwalters3424 ปีที่แล้ว

    DO THE JOB BUILD THE COUNTRY,, WITH ALL YOU GOT IN YOUR MINDS AND SOULS BUILDS THE COUNTRY,NO TIME TO LOOSE BUILD,,

  • @chiefer1325
    @chiefer1325 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have listened to both arguments 3 times, there is no way Mpofu is winning this.....

  • @Liveletfu1
    @Liveletfu1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have always missed the point when this lawyer speaks, am I the only one who feels it? Jumping all over the show

  • @michaelthage2867
    @michaelthage2867 ปีที่แล้ว

    Time management in court has a long way to go.

  • @tebogodipheko3655
    @tebogodipheko3655 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Advocate Mpofu keeps on taking off his specs and wearing them time and again..am sure his eloquence makes even his client confused 😂😂

  • @chiefer1325
    @chiefer1325 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yho Dali struggles with eloquence...yho it's such painful to grasp what he says...he talks but his mind sort of interrupts him and whispers consistently, affecting his expression

  • @be6926
    @be6926 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Mpofu is incapable of elegantly finessing his arguments .... its a skill he's never acquired... which is why he rambles on endlessly, eventually losing his own plot.

  • @victormkhaliphi2778
    @victormkhaliphi2778 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you wanna drown in court. You know who to call

  • @sphiwedlamini5592
    @sphiwedlamini5592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Show me one person who won a case against the state especially under Ramaphosa......then ke yu can say whatever that yu want.

  • @amukelaninwandzule3837
    @amukelaninwandzule3837 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two Counsels for the Respondent, one pretending to be an amicus 🤣🤣🤣🤭

  • @sechenegololo531
    @sechenegololo531 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It seems that Justices of the courts in South Africa have been instructed to be hostile towards Adv Mpofu because he continues to raise uncomfortable issues in courts. This is a travesty of justice, ironically under the constitution that Adv Mpofu has contributed to its drafting

    • @AdamSpenceVC
      @AdamSpenceVC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mpofu is an embarrassment to the legal system. He's arrogant, rude, condescending, and goes around in circles, repeating the same thing over and over and over. If he is compared to the other attorneys, he's an absolute joke. He doesn't even know how to present a clear and concise argument. As a lawyer! How embarrassing

  • @ephriammkansi8969
    @ephriammkansi8969 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is really clown 🤡

  • @motseimathibe2860
    @motseimathibe2860 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a listen this was

  • @absonreubennhiwatiwa7553
    @absonreubennhiwatiwa7553 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Advocate Dali Mpofu refers to the current President as Mr Ramaphosa and and Mr Zuma is referred to as President Zuma; 😂😂😂😂

  • @nimatullah5441
    @nimatullah5441 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am disabled in both legs please treat me here I am a very poor man life is hard to live now I want to live my life like you

  • @ianthomas7819
    @ianthomas7819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Eish This Council is not used to this being told what to do specially Dali Mpofu

  • @ryanturner9731
    @ryanturner9731 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Judges continue to get agitated with Mpofu because of his 'know it all' attitude and how disrespectful he is towards them. To add to this, he ALWAYS exceeds his allocated time by waffling and takes far too long to explain simple points and then complains when they don't give him more time? Then inevitably they cry prejudice or bias? Is that their only card to play? Just setting up more false excuses to cover their impending loss........On the other hand, his opposing council are always respectful, stick to their time, they are clear, concise and to the point, with well prepared legal arguments and well researched and referenced case law to substantiate their arguments. I suspect he will continue to lose cases in the future until he changes his attitude.

  • @ianthomas7819
    @ianthomas7819 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Is this school classroom with teacher Mpofu running the class and making the rules, has the judge not trained in legality.

    • @subangovender1673
      @subangovender1673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. was going to make the same comment. He makes as if he is the authority.

    • @roygilbert7294
      @roygilbert7294 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dali is not just a trained lawyer he is also an experienced one who has gone through it all.....

    • @AdamSpenceVC
      @AdamSpenceVC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dali is a joke

  • @TheSecondIntruder
    @TheSecondIntruder ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Funny this one Dali

  • @goofyladdoitbig8439
    @goofyladdoitbig8439 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Dali is not the sharpest pencil, his overrated the guy can hardly express him views eloquently

    • @subangovender1673
      @subangovender1673 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      a left hand pencil.

    • @timothytshepothobane915
      @timothytshepothobane915 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was not born colonial english

    • @rahamankhan2895
      @rahamankhan2895 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He just has an ego problem

    • @rahamankhan2895
      @rahamankhan2895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@timothytshepothobane915 he studied through the English medium.

    • @timothytshepothobane915
      @timothytshepothobane915 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rahamankhan2895 bcos of apartheid & british colonial system & we would walk to & from schools for hours,we did better than those who were spoiled

  • @kennethphala5823
    @kennethphala5823 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Struggling to hear this Mpofu oke,its bad

  • @EdwardMyeza-eg1nr
    @EdwardMyeza-eg1nr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    At the end the judges are the ones to hand down whatever judgement people must remember we cannot express ourselves to the likings of other people but to the best of our ability so i see nothing wrong on how Dali expressing himself not unless those listening are not fan to his client. At least he quotes from law written in black and white adopted by our constitution. There are people in this world who always wish to dictate terms on people. It's a free country. Yes democracy has it's limits but if i am not breaking any law you cannot tell anyone how to articulate him or herself.

    • @sechenegololo531
      @sechenegololo531 ปีที่แล้ว

      True, most judges in South Africa are no longer applying the law in matters that involve Ramaphosa. They are pro Ramaphosa at all costs

  • @bafanapeter4138
    @bafanapeter4138 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The cat has eaten up the law in SA. All the time Mr Zuma loses cases and when he wins them they are reinstated. If I were him I would just say just arrest me so that your motives are served. It's clear that he must lose cases irrespective of how unclear their facts are.
    There are tons and tons of exaggerations in his cases. There can't be a bad person like him of which all this is based on lies.

    • @bonganixu2015
      @bonganixu2015 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hjjjj8

    • @AfricanWiseman
      @AfricanWiseman ปีที่แล้ว

      Zuma is a criminal and guilty of treason, Ramaphosa seems to be on the same path also. ANC have been a criminal party for many years now and you can see it in how bad things are in the country. Yet still there are too many idiots who will keep voting for this nonsense for anything to change. I swear some of these people could have watched Zuma rape their own mother and would be clapping and cheering for him in the corner of the room, then afterwards they would thank him, when their mother is crying and complains they will beat her and tell her to stop spreading lies. So many people in South Africa are beyond saving mxm

  • @nicholasmavumengwana6621
    @nicholasmavumengwana6621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mr Mphofu will always lose all cases because he keeps on wearing his specs and wearing off, I don't whether is the way of intimidation against opponents hayi uyahlekisa maan and I even realise he has a big head but is full of confidence out of that 😅😅😅

  • @peterkoutsis2780
    @peterkoutsis2780 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There should be a waffle 🧇 named after Mr. Dali. Regards

    • @timothytshepothobane915
      @timothytshepothobane915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      U r too forward

    • @peterkoutsis2780
      @peterkoutsis2780 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@timothytshepothobane915 Forgiveness just how I feel

    • @AdamSpenceVC
      @AdamSpenceVC ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@timothytshepothobane915 Mpofu is a joke!

    • @ianthomas7819
      @ianthomas7819 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peterkoutsis2780 Freedom of speech or opinion

  • @makiwa-sj5tw
    @makiwa-sj5tw ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But I think he's alright, that's the way he is and that's his nature

    • @timothytshepothobane915
      @timothytshepothobane915 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is a shame our leaders r fighting each other to please their masters & now we r a laughing stock to our no.1 enemies of our freedom, in the name of crumbs of bread

  • @voiceout7735
    @voiceout7735 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Whatever mixed the law with politics made a mistake these two things never mix. Some Adv are full of politics I comment with no implication. But South African Law is affected more and more by political interference but not in-depth if said. I have seen many cases where Counsels enter the court of Law with a political pace.

  • @victormkhaliphi2778
    @victormkhaliphi2778 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:37:10
    You're welcome!!!!

  • @ericusdaniel7890
    @ericusdaniel7890 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only in south africa .the piesang of the universe

  • @joecruiser
    @joecruiser ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Both Claimant & Defendant need new Taxpayer funded attire.
    Orange.

  • @SinethembaNtlonti
    @SinethembaNtlonti ปีที่แล้ว

    Eish Nomthandazo kodwa

  • @ianthomas7819
    @ianthomas7819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Somebody Mpofu to cut the BS I'm sure Cyril has some International meeting with Russia.

  • @ellainepage5467
    @ellainepage5467 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Removing and wearing his specs again every 5 seconds 🤦‍♀️

  • @ianthomas7819
    @ianthomas7819 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Advocate Dali Mpofu SC was paid over R12 million for representing Mkhwebane over the past three years, with very little success in court.

  • @husbymohapi5164
    @husbymohapi5164 ปีที่แล้ว

    Knowledges of the legal rules is for students. It takes an unbroken chain of years to develop deadly legal punches. Law is a jealous mistress, and she does not tolerate any rivalry. However, this is not the case for those who law is their calling.

  • @glanurselethoba8712
    @glanurselethoba8712 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let mpofu rest

  • @SifisoMazibuko-z2t
    @SifisoMazibuko-z2t ปีที่แล้ว

    This judges was biased, somewhere somehow😅

  • @maggylauralebethe4499
    @maggylauralebethe4499 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never seen Dali so excited and energized by the Judges that there might be enquiry as to the conduct if the NPA

  • @verbssibanyoni8956
    @verbssibanyoni8956 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    mpofu is a law machine finish nd
    clarr!!!!!!

  • @timothytshepothobane915
    @timothytshepothobane915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With due respect,whaz the surname Hon. My Lady

  • @ianthomas7819
    @ianthomas7819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Has Mr Ramaphosa taken leave for this case if not he is going to need it.

  • @ephriammkansi8969
    @ephriammkansi8969 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zuma law?

  • @timothytshepothobane915
    @timothytshepothobane915 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There's nothing Dali did wrong,judge can't dictate the time for counsel,the Hon.Lady is...

  • @glanurselethoba8712
    @glanurselethoba8712 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zuma mara ke eng ka wena na

  • @ShabalalaNcane
    @ShabalalaNcane ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ramaphosa must go