This interview has to be the foundation for the true history of the L.A subculture " I don't what to say Gang culture " of the Crips and Bloods , Cat Ceaser is an absolute wealth of knowledge, not one bit biased or derogatory about anything or anyone just says it as it was . Amazing man , 31 years inside and can sit and educate us with his history as articulate as a collage professor , unbelievable. Now come on Damu's contact Kev Mac PLEASE we want to hear your history. This is how you will unite . Sit down and tell Kev mac. He tells the world👍.
I will say this, Raymond could not have ran a gang without having some skills and heart. I think the statement that Raymond was always by himself speaks volumes. He could handle himself. As for the notion that I have read on hear of him leading younger dudes, that is just the natural order of life. Everyone who got down, I don't care what city/state had a homie that looked out, in their own misguided ways thought they were helping you out. When I was 13/14 I was trying to jump in the car with the older guys, by the time I was 18/19 I was trying to make money with the older guys....it is normal. When you join the military, it is the seasoned vets that train you up. I saw Mike Tyson rise and I saw him fall, everyone has their time, Raymond's sadly came to an end at an age(25) most people are just starting to figure a few things out in life. Please show respect.
Wow!!! Cat has an incredible memory great story teller one of my favorites,sounds and looks a little like Snoop Dogg. Lol...love the call back editing with previous enterviews given. It allows the viewer too decide for them selves how too digest each man's perspective.... without inadvertently being persuaded too take one side or thee either. Much respect. Peace
Solid info...my people been in that area since the late 50s..my great uncle name is in the wino hall of fame on Central and 78th...as a lil kid I use to see all Crips until 1984' after that nothing but redd
Compared to the average teenager, Raymond had a short and stocky build. So, you put that together with heart and good set of hands, then you have a force to be reckoned with👊👊
After hearing Vlad interview Melvin Farmer... I really hope he decides to get on this platform one day because he knows some shit, and you'll ask much better questions.
MAC, you are bringin' us all 2gether: we need mo' video's 'bout truces between us (60's and 83's, Hoovers and MafiaLanes,etc.) passes we gave rival's and family members from opposing side's..💙❤♥
So someone stood up to him? That's actually usually how it happens even here in Texas. It's how I learned to fight and deal with a lot of problems. Even when you're a small kid, that day you get tired, shit gets real.
Came home changed clothes, and went back out to steal 🤣...that was funny, but man what a solid segment, the editing was on point! I know you constructively criticize your earlier work, but your function constantly exceeds your form...remember a gun or a knife doesn't have to be pretty to kill! Great Content bro!
@@charlesjohnson1534 No Raymond had came on to 73rd off of Hooper, cursing and yelling "Who killed my homeboy" referring to Craig Craddock. Bird told him he couldn't be doing all that cursing around there. So Raymond stopped and nothing happened. He also saw him at Centinela with Tookie and Jimel. I have to get more details on that. Nothing physical happened. He said Raymond had some size on him.
Although on different ends of the spectrum I believe Raymond Washington and Tookie Williams were stronger organizers than Huey Newton and Bobby Seal. Im not talking their politics or ideas, i mean grass roots ability to organize youth. Tookie was all city with Raymond many on the East side.
Every Cat video in this series has the same ThumbNail cover photo. Cat just sitting there no emotion, straight back, stiff, I can tell Cat done seen and been threw some shit.
Cat got that steel trap memory! Solid. Big Kev, we waiting on that full concise, edited down to the bone catalogue I know you gotta be working on, so you can go get that Netflix or cable money for your work and dedication to keeping it objective and 100, and lacing the people about this history! #RollerCoastin
Another helluva interview. These comments off the chain. Its 2 sides to every story I'm pretty sure everybody didn't fear him . But the fact that can't be disputed is he was a leader and a hogg.
Good interview.. What this proves is that people will have different views of others street style. It's obvious that Bloods hated Raymond Washington while his fellow Crips are going to give him props.. Regardless of whoever's view you want to believe, people usually hate you when you're top notch at something. Whether it be sports, book smart, or street smart.. So I'm pretty sure Raymond Washington had hands because nobody's going to follow and join a gang ran by some soft nigga.. So IMO, Raymond Washington had to have had major hands to start a large gang, and make hundreds of people hate him.. But that's just my opinion..✌️✌️
I believe Raymond Washington was what we called in YA a dope-fiend artist.. If you sock a person from behind when they not expecting it that doesn't make you a good fighter.. I believe he was very aggressive and preyed on the weak. I believe early Crips and early anti Crips had difference in their philosophy..
@@emmettlewis2312 Let me guess you're a blood right? lol You can't lead thousands of people to follow you just by shocking people from the back of the head lol They could have easily jumped him with a group of people if that was the case.
@@donmiller2705first if all the people he was bullying wasn't Crips. Second as the Crips he once lead got older they formed there own gang do you know why?
@kevmac why is LA gang culture framed as blood vs crips when crips hate crips? Like y'all and 83 I don't even know who either of y'alls blood enemies are. I mean, when did people like 60s and 83s even have time to fight bloods? To this day it seems like MONSTER Cody struggle with his hatred for 60s. Just curious all the way from CO. I've been wondering this ever since I read Monsters book. That's when my eyes first opened to the fact that simplifying it to red vs blue was kinda like media hype.
Cat Ceasar said "He didn't BULLY u if u were a CRIP" Which confirms OOOG JIMMY LAVENDER character assessment,He was a BULLY ! If u BULLY peaople who aren't in ur Gang = BULLY🤔🤔🤔 CRIPPING IS ABOUT BULLYING😉😉😉 What some people are misinterpreting about what Jimmy has said about Raymond is he didn't say Raymond wasn't tough,He saying his fighting skills weren't Grade-A ! Jimmy is telling u not one person has come forward with a story about how Raymond easily kicked the ass of another Brother his age who had a Big Reputation 💯
I disagree. You can't make thousands of guys join your gang if you wasn't solid guy with hands. He made most all the other clicks through out many cities follow in his path and join him. Ain't nobody following a bitch am I right?
@@donmiller2705 Guess u didn't resd my statement fully ! Jimmy didn't say he wasn't tough he said his fighting skills wasn't Grade-A ! Also u might wanna ask yourself why B4 he died he only wanted Crips on the East Side to change thier Name to East Coast🤔🤔🤔 He got this Empire but only concerned with a portion of it,Or maybe cause he wasn't really in control of the whole Empire ! As a side note,BLOODS are deep in NYC and thier Movement was started by a Fraud(WHO KNEW NO ONE IN CALI)
@@jockobotzi Go watch the whole interview by Jimmy then come back. Him saying, "Those Crips think he had hands but to us he didn't" and bunch more statement on the original video that was directed towards Washington. It been cool if he made those statement and Raymond was still alive but he basically talking down on somebody that's dead. Even if it was true which its not but let's say it was true what Jimmy said. All the Crips say he had hands so let it be why wait 40 something years to say he didn't while the man is dead? All the Crips give Tam & Pudding their props and those two were bullies I never heard stories of them having any hands, all they did was pull out guns on people and shoot them yet no one crip has ever said those guys didn't have hands. All Crips showed them respect on their name cuz their dead no need to speak bad on them.
@@emmettlewis2312 The time period that's why. Raymond was running the streets fighting in the 60s. Most Black's at that time just fought no guns. All they had was hands. Majority all the Crips said Raymond had hands but you barely banged in the 80s and u think u know Raymond story ignoring all those other Crips that said he had hands who lived in those time. This ain't the Black panthers, Raymond was recruiting all the thugs in the streets to join his ruthless organization so u had to had hands to make them join you cuz guns wasn't really in the picture yet.
#Minp #MemoriesInPeace #TripleOG #OG RAYMOND LEE WASHINGTON #RaymondWashinton RAYMOND WASHINGTON (Original) Founder of The Crips #FounderOfTheCrips #Crip #Crips Listen and #DoYourResearch Before You Judge....
Exactly like AC said once his original crew became 16 and and 17 they started they own gang.. His word didnt mean shit. But he adapted and centered his leadership to Younger more vulnerable kids. Why would a 16 or 17 year old spend time with a 12 13 year old kid. He was a great manipulator as well.
That's how it goes though. A good follow becomes a good leader. Once you reach certain age you become your own man. I wouldn't say he "couldn't lead" they became thier own men and walked they're own way. Plus he was locked up when. Most of the hood sets branched off the east side crip tree
@@jamesbrocklehurst8611 a good leader who was focused on preying on the weak and sending 12, 13, 14 year old to do his dirty work. That's what you call good leadership? It's obvious that once the Crip Empire expanded it overwhelmed him and he lost control of his baby. I think his a very interesting and intriguing person worthy of a case study.
@@emmettlewis2312 in a gang sense yes. In in real life ,moral life, of course not. It was the blind leading the blind. I answered this befo I saw video. I dont kw where he got this opinion from by watching this video though. When the crips started breaking into sets Raymond was locked up. He doesn't kw what he ( who made original comment ) talking about. Raymond was respected by all the original crips. According to the ons I've seen on KM videos anyways
Raymond had some Louisville Slugger arms in that pic.... No wonder he could knock people out. Cat Ceaser was there the next morning after Craig Craddock was killed...amazing to have that history come to life. Raymond was that man. The government got Tookie and Raymond in 1979. That's no coincidence. Raymond was gonna get things straight. But got cut down
The gouvernment had nothing against raymond. As a matter of fact he was working for them doing gang intervention getting paid by the government to talk to youth at risk. Tookie and Raymond met their demise on natural causes
Marcus Garvey’s (#35) THE DON’T’S The following is a list of things, most of which have been discussed, that the Afrikan Master Student MUST AVOID AT ALL COST #1. DON’T allow SUPERFICIALITIES to keep You from Your People. (graduate vs. undergraduate, athlete vs. non-althete, professional vs. non-professional, middle class vs. lower class, north vs south, east vs west, Man vs. Woman, science vs. liberal arts, Democrat vs. Repuplican, Greek vs. non-Greek, Caribbean vs United States of Amerika). #2. DON’T allow Yourself to develop an ELITIST MENTALITY. #3 DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DIVIDE and CONQUER You. #4. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to PICK and CHOOSE Your Leaders. #5. DON’T become a SLAVE to Money or Position. #6. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to USE, ABUSE, or MISTREAT You or Your People. #7. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to SET Your Standards goals or Objectives. #8. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DEFINE and SELECT Your Ideology(Highest Values). #9. DON’T become a SLAVE to Material Things. #10. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to DRUG or LURE You to Sleep(cousin of death). #11. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or Yourselves to DEMEAN or DEHUMANIZE Your Heritage. #12. DON’T ACCEPT Something simply because the Enemy(European Colonist) says You SHOULD. #13. DON”T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DEFINE and REPRESENT Your Interest. #14. DON’T work AGAINST Your People. #15. DON’T MISTREAT Your Brother’s and Sister’s(People). #16. DON’T promote VALUES and PRACTICES that are ANTI-Afrikan #17. DON’T choose INDIVIDUALISM over Peoplehood and Community. #18. DON’T DISCUSS Family Problems in Public or with the Enemy(European Colonist). #19. DON’T celebrate EUROPEAN COLONIST HOLIDAY’S. #20. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DICTATE Your Methods for Struggle. #21. DON’T support things that DISRUPT Unity, Organization, and Peoplehood. #22. DON’T allow Yourself to become APATHETIC, APOLITICAL, PASSIVE or PESSIMISTIC. #23. DON’T act on EMOTION. #24. DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) to DISARM You. #25. DON’T do things that IMPEDE(Jeopardize) the struggle. #26. DON’T REJECT Values, Lifestyles, and Traditions that Make Your Culture Unique. #27. DON’T SUPPORT Artist, Businesses, Politicians, Organizations, or Institutions that EXPLOIT the Afrkan Community in this Country or Abroad. #28. DON’T BETRAY Your Brother’s and Sister’s(People). #29. DON’T practice INEQUALITY, SEXISM, or CLASSISM. #30. DON’T PATRONIZE Corporations, Institutions, or Organizations that VIOLATE Afrikan Intersest. #31. DON’T do the DIRTY WORK of the Enemy (European Colonist). #32. DON’T run from ADVERSITY. #33. DON’T be AFRAID to Fight Back. #34. DON’T DEFEAT Yourself or Your People before the Battle even begins. #35. DON’T EXPLOIT Your People.
Won't ever see no answer for that question on here bro. People may know who did whether its was hoova, swans, or even his own set. One will never give you the answer on the internet.
Damn Kev them New York cats making your channel look like low budget shit you got good content but damn they make your channel look unprofessional I follow your videos but it’s a little outdated compared to these Ny cats like quennzflip , infominds, and etc like I said you got good content but it’s unprofessional!!
R.I.P Raymond Washington a true OG
Right 💙💯
That was deep. KMV slowly unraveling the mystery that is Raymond Washington.
He's definitely a mystery GLAD THAT HAVE THESE OG's who were there
MUCH LOVE TO MA UNCLE CAT CAESAR FOR PUTTING THIS GOOD INFO OUT.
Every time that I saw Raymond also, he was by himself 😼
This interview has to be the foundation for the true history of the L.A subculture " I don't what to say Gang culture " of the Crips and Bloods , Cat Ceaser is an absolute wealth of knowledge, not one bit biased or derogatory about anything or anyone just says it as it was . Amazing man , 31 years inside and can sit and educate us with his history as articulate as a collage professor , unbelievable. Now come on Damu's contact Kev Mac PLEASE we want to hear your history. This is how you will unite . Sit down and tell Kev mac. He tells the world👍.
The way u edited this video was on point Kev,i would say this your best one yet
Hopefully they get better.
@@KevMacVideos the fact your self taught shows your hard work and your getting better with time...Keep up the hood worc Big homie
Pretty soon we going have to do Community FundRaisers so he can movies.. Maybe some loose based stories..
I will say this, Raymond could not have ran a gang without having some skills and heart. I think the statement that Raymond was always by himself speaks volumes. He could handle himself. As for the notion that I have read on hear of him leading younger dudes, that is just the natural order of life. Everyone who got down, I don't care what city/state had a homie that looked out, in their own misguided ways thought they were helping you out. When I was 13/14 I was trying to jump in the car with the older guys, by the time I was 18/19 I was trying to make money with the older guys....it is normal. When you join the military, it is the seasoned vets that train you up. I saw Mike Tyson rise and I saw him fall, everyone has their time, Raymond's sadly came to an end at an age(25) most people are just starting to figure a few things out in life. Please show respect.
Speak on it homie...All facts!
Nice Break down
Respect 💯
That story on how he met Raymond Washington would make a good opening for a book (or movie/docu-series.)
I wish someone would do a movie about Raymond Washington and his life!!!
Long over due and should be done before the four originals, his mom, remaining brothers, and kids moms pass.
Kev Mac Videos absolutely why haven’t their been a movie on Cuh
@@KevMacVideos need to start some crowd funding or something to get this movie off the ground!!
Even though we'll never really get the Damu's side about Tam and Puddin. Boyyyyy I bet cha them stories would have been 🔥🔥🔥
This man is highly respected in my neck of the woods salute big cees
Wow!!! Cat has an incredible memory great story teller one of my favorites,sounds and looks a little like Snoop Dogg. Lol...love the call back editing with previous enterviews given. It allows the viewer too decide for them selves how too digest each man's perspective.... without inadvertently being persuaded too take one side or thee either. Much respect. Peace
@Chief Knockahoe ur hilarious
Showing off is a fool's idea of glory: neither seek trouble and YOU BET NOT AVOID IT!! CAT CAESARS whole character...
Kev your edit game is on point.niggaz need to know how much work you put into your platform.
It’s a work in progress but we’re almost there bro thanx.
Never change the intro kev please 💯
It safe to say that Raymond might not have been the baddest, but he did and could get down.
ComplexBlackness
I think he was the baddest as a teen but when other people
Start outgrowing him that’s when The respect changed
No one person is the baddest!
Solid info...my people been in that area since the late 50s..my great uncle name is in the wino hall of fame on Central and 78th...as a lil kid I use to see all Crips until 1984' after that nothing but redd
@Midnight Lightning Radio He is talking Figuratively.
Compared to the average teenager, Raymond had a short and stocky build. So, you put that together with heart and good set of hands, then you have a force to be reckoned with👊👊
69 ecc doc hand down
Looks like Raymond had leadership qualities.
@@complexblackness , definitely! 😎
Lol facts
HEARD RAYMOND WAS NICE WITH THE HANDS!!!
Big Kev Mac!!! Impeccable timing my brotha
K: was people scared of Raymond
Cat Cease: "yeahh,cuz he used to Whoop people ass" lolololololololol
After hearing Vlad interview Melvin Farmer... I really hope he decides to get on this platform one day because he knows some shit, and you'll ask much better questions.
Rest up OOG.Raymond Washington ♿
Hood afternoon from Houston.
6×10 cuzzo from Kansas city mo.
Raymond was smart , never bring a female into cripping business
check here on you tube and see Chitta. The first Lady Crip. See here story.
Keep them coming Kev
Back again for another classic
good part 5 video this is a good one im enjoying it and also looking forward to all of the other videos you got coming up salute peace
@kevmac yo, folk not mentioning Bennie Ray Simpson aka Bulldog 83Hoover RIP.
CIP Raymond Washington
Checking in from the STL
Good interview!
Who was Raymond Washington? Well, it depends on which old head you ask. I’ve never met him, but I can say...he was no coward !
Gd job editing kev.yr hard work always show's
Long Live Raymond Washington
Crip Gang God
Another good video thanks Kev 👍🏽
Great video
Yeah yeah Kev... Had to take a break at work real quick... Good interview...
When I was younger my moms use to tell me his name rang bells and niggas wasn't quick to step to him
Lunch time tappin in.
What up Big Homie checking in Rollie
Time to program main liners only💙
Sounded pretty bullyish too me. Which in turn creates bully breakers or anti-bullies. You don’t ever forget your losses.
MAC, you are bringin' us all 2gether: we need mo' video's 'bout truces between us (60's and 83's, Hoovers and MafiaLanes,etc.) passes we gave rival's and family members from opposing side's..💙❤♥
Unfortunately, truth be told, Craig Craddock was much more of a bully, and that is what ultimately led to his demise. Fact!😒
So someone stood up to him? That's actually usually how it happens even here in Texas. It's how I learned to fight and deal with a lot of problems. Even when you're a small kid, that day you get tired, shit gets real.
Was he the one that bullied someone at the shop and dude came back and shot him in the back
Came home changed clothes, and went back out to steal 🤣...that was funny, but man what a solid segment, the editing was on point! I know you constructively criticize your earlier work, but your function constantly exceeds your form...remember a gun or a knife doesn't have to be pretty to kill! Great Content bro!
ThunderBird had a couple of encounters with Raymond Washington, including after Craig Craddock was killed.
Physical encounters?
@@charlesjohnson1534 No Raymond had came on to 73rd off of Hooper, cursing and yelling "Who killed my homeboy" referring to Craig Craddock. Bird told him he couldn't be doing all that cursing around there. So Raymond stopped and nothing happened.
He also saw him at Centinela with Tookie and Jimel. I have to get more details on that. Nothing physical happened.
He said Raymond had some size on him.
He told me a couple stories about feeding them at the park and starting shit at McArthur Park
@@complexblackness Good info
@@KevMacVideos Yea the feeding part was at Centinela Park.
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Although on different ends of the spectrum I believe Raymond Washington and Tookie Williams were stronger organizers than Huey Newton and Bobby Seal. Im not talking their politics or ideas, i mean grass roots ability to organize youth. Tookie was all city with Raymond many on the East side.
Idk man the Panthers were extremely well organized in multiple states. The Panthers had a contagious energy.
Such a stupid statement!
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Every Cat video in this series has the same ThumbNail cover photo. Cat just sitting there no emotion, straight back, stiff, I can tell Cat done seen and been threw some shit.
I think he was the one who stoled my banana seat bike when I was a kid ... 😂
It took me over 30 years to find out who stole my pigeons and over 20 to find out who stole my pit bull.
Kev Mac Videos probably cat
Good stuff
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Cat got that steel trap memory! Solid. Big Kev, we waiting on that full concise, edited down to the bone catalogue I know you gotta be working on, so you can go get that Netflix or cable money for your work and dedication to keeping it objective and 100, and lacing the people about this history! #RollerCoastin
Another helluva interview. These comments off the chain. Its 2 sides to every story I'm pretty sure everybody didn't fear him . But the fact that can't be disputed is he was a leader and a hogg.
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Good interview.. What this proves is that people will have different views of others street style. It's obvious that Bloods hated Raymond Washington while his fellow Crips are going to give him props.. Regardless of whoever's view you want to believe, people usually hate you when you're top notch at something. Whether it be sports, book smart, or street smart.. So I'm pretty sure Raymond Washington had hands because nobody's going to follow and join a gang ran by some soft nigga.. So IMO, Raymond Washington had to have had major hands to start a large gang, and make hundreds of people hate him.. But that's just my opinion..✌️✌️
I agree Tommy Dean pretty much said Raymond had hands and he didn't necessarily get along with him
I believe Raymond Washington was what we called in YA a dope-fiend artist.. If you sock a person from behind when they not expecting it that doesn't make you a good fighter.. I believe he was very aggressive and preyed on the weak. I believe early Crips and early anti Crips had difference in their philosophy..
@@emmettlewis2312 According to Tommy Dean he went head up with Ray Fu and they were both good from the shoulders
@@emmettlewis2312 Let me guess you're a blood right? lol You can't lead thousands of people to follow you just by shocking people from the back of the head lol They could have easily jumped him with a group of people if that was the case.
@@donmiller2705first if all the people he was bullying wasn't Crips. Second as the Crips he once lead got older they formed there own gang do you know why?
I wonder if Cat was into stealing when he was young? 😂😂😭😭
He look young
Blac don't crac
Kev Mac does Catt Caesar confirm the name Crips or Cribs being first?
He did in the East Coast series
Crips but some spelt it wrong cause you know what they say about the E/S and education 🤷🏾♂️
@@BrotherShakur he said Crip or Cribs?
@@BrotherShakur thanks he said Crips not Cribs. King Babalouie was right again.
@@emmettlewis2312 consistent
We need a outlaw 20s
What’s that beat called
@kevmac why is LA gang culture framed as blood vs crips when crips hate crips?
Like y'all and 83 I don't even know who either of y'alls blood enemies are. I mean, when did people like 60s and 83s even have time to fight bloods? To this day it seems like MONSTER Cody struggle with his hatred for 60s.
Just curious all the way from CO. I've been wondering this ever since I read Monsters book. That's when my eyes first opened to the fact that simplifying it to red vs blue was kinda like media hype.
Monster hated the Brims too. 60’s are so large that they had the numbers to beef with various Blood gangs, as well as several crip sets.
Cat Cesar. Keep it 💯. rESpEC
Nh700Az...
Now the question is? Who killed OOOG RW?
It's no secret....Please keep it to yourself
@@shakespeare1280 who
KEV WE NEED TO FIND OUT IF RAYMOND HAD A NICNAME..SEEM LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DID BUT HIM
Mann I want Barefoot Pookies T shirt......
Cat Ceasar said "He didn't BULLY u if u were a CRIP" Which confirms OOOG JIMMY LAVENDER character assessment,He was a BULLY ! If u BULLY peaople who aren't in ur Gang = BULLY🤔🤔🤔 CRIPPING IS ABOUT BULLYING😉😉😉 What some people are misinterpreting about what Jimmy has said about Raymond is he didn't say Raymond wasn't tough,He saying his fighting skills weren't Grade-A ! Jimmy is telling u not one person has come forward with a story about how Raymond easily kicked the ass of another Brother his age who had a Big Reputation 💯
I disagree. You can't make thousands of guys join your gang if you wasn't solid guy with hands. He made most all the other clicks through out many cities follow in his path and join him. Ain't nobody following a bitch am I right?
@@donmiller2705 Guess u didn't resd my statement fully ! Jimmy didn't say he wasn't tough he said his fighting skills wasn't Grade-A ! Also u might wanna ask yourself why B4 he died he only wanted Crips on the East Side to change thier Name to East Coast🤔🤔🤔 He got this Empire but only concerned with a portion of it,Or maybe cause he wasn't really in control of the whole Empire ! As a side note,BLOODS are deep in NYC and thier Movement was started by a Fraud(WHO KNEW NO ONE IN CALI)
@@jockobotzi Go watch the whole interview by Jimmy then come back. Him saying, "Those Crips think he had hands but to us he didn't" and bunch more statement on the original video that was directed towards Washington. It been cool if he made those statement and Raymond was still alive but he basically talking down on somebody that's dead. Even if it was true which its not but let's say it was true what Jimmy said. All the Crips say he had hands so let it be why wait 40 something years to say he didn't while the man is dead? All the Crips give Tam & Pudding their props and those two were bullies I never heard stories of them having any hands, all they did was pull out guns on people and shoot them yet no one crip has ever said those guys didn't have hands. All Crips showed them respect on their name cuz their dead no need to speak bad on them.
@@donmiller2705 You dont have to be a great fighter to be a gang Leader where you get that from.?
@@emmettlewis2312 The time period that's why. Raymond was running the streets fighting in the 60s. Most Black's at that time just fought no guns. All they had was hands. Majority all the Crips said Raymond had hands but you barely banged in the 80s and u think u know Raymond story ignoring all those other Crips that said he had hands who lived in those time. This ain't the Black panthers, Raymond was recruiting all the thugs in the streets to join his ruthless organization so u had to had hands to make them join you cuz guns wasn't really in the picture yet.
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Put this and the Early AC interview together and you see that Raymond couldn’t lead teenage boys so we had to focus on younger guys
Exactly like AC said once his original crew became 16 and and 17 they started they own gang.. His word didnt mean shit. But he adapted and centered his leadership to Younger more vulnerable kids. Why would a 16 or 17 year old spend time with a 12 13 year old kid. He was a great manipulator as well.
The thing is Raymond was leading the baddest of the bad all his old crew became gang leaders
That's how it goes though. A good follow becomes a good leader. Once you reach certain age you become your own man. I wouldn't say he "couldn't lead" they became thier own men and walked they're own way. Plus he was locked up when. Most of the hood sets branched off the east side crip tree
@@jamesbrocklehurst8611 a good leader who was focused on preying on the weak and sending 12, 13, 14 year old to do his dirty work. That's what you call good leadership? It's obvious that once the Crip Empire expanded it overwhelmed him and he lost control of his baby. I think his a very interesting and intriguing person worthy of a case study.
@@emmettlewis2312 in a gang sense yes. In in real life ,moral life, of course not. It was the blind leading the blind. I answered this befo I saw video. I dont kw where he got this opinion from by watching this video though. When the crips started breaking into sets Raymond was locked up. He doesn't kw what he ( who made original comment ) talking about. Raymond was respected by all the original crips. According to the ons I've seen on KM videos anyways
Cip raymond tookie ..
Raymond had some Louisville Slugger arms in that pic.... No wonder he could knock people out. Cat Ceaser was there the next morning after Craig Craddock was killed...amazing to have that history come to life. Raymond was that man. The government got Tookie and Raymond in 1979. That's no coincidence. Raymond was gonna get things straight. But got cut down
Beechboy68 I swear you not lying
The gouvernment had nothing against raymond. As a matter of fact he was working for them doing gang intervention getting paid by the government to talk to youth at risk.
Tookie and Raymond met their demise on natural causes
Old school brothers have unity. We don't. It's a shame. I watch old 70s movies n man being black was the shit
Marcus
Garvey’s
(#35)
THE DON’T’S
The
following is a list of things, most of which have been discussed, that the
Afrikan Master Student
MUST
AVOID AT ALL COST
#1.
DON’T allow SUPERFICIALITIES
to keep You from Your People. (graduate vs. undergraduate, athlete vs.
non-althete, professional vs. non-professional, middle class vs. lower class,
north vs south, east vs west, Man vs. Woman, science vs. liberal arts, Democrat
vs. Repuplican, Greek vs. non-Greek, Caribbean vs United States of Amerika).
#2.
DON’T allow Yourself to develop an ELITIST
MENTALITY.
#3
DON’T allow the Enemy(European
Colonist) to DIVIDE and CONQUER You.
#4.
DON’T allow the Enemy(European
Colonist) to PICK and CHOOSE Your Leaders.
#5.
DON’T become a SLAVE to Money or
Position.
#6.
DON’T allow the Enemy(European
Colonist) or Yourselves to USE, ABUSE, or MISTREAT You or
Your People.
#7.
DON’T allow the Enemy(European
Colonist) to SET Your Standards goals or Objectives.
#8.
DON’T allow the Enemy(European
Colonist) to DEFINE and SELECT Your Ideology(Highest
Values).
#9.
DON’T become a SLAVE to Material
Things.
#10.
DON’T allow the Enemy(European Colonist) or
Yourselves to DRUG or LURE You to Sleep(cousin of death).
#11.
DON’T allow the Enemy(European
Colonist) or Yourselves to DEMEAN or DEHUMANIZE Your Heritage.
#12.
DON’T ACCEPT Something simply
because the Enemy(European Colonist) says You SHOULD.
#13.
DON”T allow the Enemy(European
Colonist) to DEFINE and REPRESENT Your Interest.
#14.
DON’T work AGAINST Your
People.
#15.
DON’T MISTREAT Your Brother’s
and Sister’s(People).
#16.
DON’T promote VALUES and PRACTICES
that are ANTI-Afrikan
#17.
DON’T choose INDIVIDUALISM
over Peoplehood and Community.
#18.
DON’T DISCUSS Family Problems
in Public or with the Enemy(European Colonist).
#19.
DON’T celebrate EUROPEAN COLONIST
HOLIDAY’S.
#20.
DON’T allow the Enemy(European
Colonist) to DICTATE Your Methods for Struggle.
#21.
DON’T support things that DISRUPT
Unity, Organization, and Peoplehood.
#22.
DON’T allow Yourself to become APATHETIC,
APOLITICAL, PASSIVE or PESSIMISTIC.
#23.
DON’T act on EMOTION.
#24.
DON’T allow the Enemy(European
Colonist) to DISARM You.
#25.
DON’T do things that IMPEDE(Jeopardize)
the struggle.
#26.
DON’T REJECT Values,
Lifestyles, and Traditions that Make Your Culture Unique.
#27.
DON’T SUPPORT Artist,
Businesses, Politicians, Organizations, or Institutions that EXPLOIT the
Afrkan Community in this Country or Abroad.
#28.
DON’T BETRAY Your Brother’s
and Sister’s(People).
#29.
DON’T practice INEQUALITY, SEXISM,
or CLASSISM.
#30.
DON’T PATRONIZE Corporations,
Institutions, or Organizations that VIOLATE Afrikan Intersest.
#31.
DON’T do the DIRTY WORK of the
Enemy (European Colonist).
#32.
DON’T run from ADVERSITY.
#33.
DON’T be AFRAID to Fight Back.
#34.
DON’T DEFEAT Yourself or Your
People before the Battle even begins.
#35.
DON’T EXPLOIT Your People.
MR RAMON WASHINGTON........REST IN PEACE SOLDIER.................KM-VIDEO'S
What that’s best name
Dam fucced me up to find out that Raymond got killed by his homeys shit been going on homeys Killin homeys smh
Is it true Big Bam from 83 hoova killed Raymond??
Won't ever see no answer for that question on here bro. People may know who did whether its was hoova, swans, or even his own set. One will never give you the answer on the internet.
Don't Believe the Hype
Damn Kev them New York cats making your channel look like low budget shit you got good content but damn they make your channel look unprofessional I follow your videos but it’s a little outdated compared to these Ny cats like quennzflip , infominds, and etc like I said you got good content but it’s unprofessional!!
I'm sorry but I don't trust this guys eyes. Lol
You are peanuts to an elephant like Cat Caesar just know that.
@@303Lyfe My bad I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.👊
@@Oceanviewcoffeeshop just letting you know your place no feelings necessary.