Concentration is a balancing requirement for 5e, to prevent buff spam from prior editions and to try to close the martial caster divide. But even with the concentration mechanic full casters still out perform martials with just decent spell picks.
Oh, right, Baldur is right around the corner. Man thanks to your builds I got over 300 hours in Wrath of the Righteous, big thanks again for the awesome builds. I wonder what will we be able to cook in Baldur. The studio's previous games, mainly Divinity Original Sin 2, had some fun and interesting builds. Fingers crossed they don't disappoint this time! Oh and Solasta is nice, but I mostly enjoyed it in a coop with my brother and 2 of our friends. It was wacky, it was challenging (almost got wiped by the starting goblins) but it was fun.
Love it, played the base game, bought the expansions but haven't gotten around to playing those, let's get those guides rolling! Your WotR guides usually make me want to play another playthrough of that game... Up to 529h played as of now...
Really great to see you diversify away from just WOTR ! I enjoyed this game, but of course, looking forward to Baldur’s Gate 3 in a couple months. You would add a lot of value there for sure and it is a much bigger game as well !
My holy "moly" of four: - Court Mage, a best defender in the game - Circle of Balance Druid, top tier healer as a gift of life removes death effect from the party member on their turn - Paladin of Judgment, a single target dps machine in meele and range, and static auras... - Battle Cleric, just to keep company for others
Such a fun game. I love making 4 characters. Don’t sleep on Bards! They are a lot of fun to play. The Lore school can give you access to some pretty fun spells like fireball and the cleric aura.
I prefer concentration mechanic over stacking 1363636536 buffs like in Pathfinder, this stacking slows the game so much; I spend over 2 minutes buffing everyone once I enter a map in WotR I think. Concentration requires you to actually choose your buffs instead.
It's almost surreal seeing you NOT covering WoTR xD. I know you had a stint with Elden Ring, but you'll always be the go-to WoTR TH-cam guy. Anyway, glad you're covering Solasta since it's on my CRPG shortlist. Guess you'll be covering BG3 too then? There should be a whole heap of your videos out on it by the time I feel it's patched enough to give it a go. Not that it will necessarily be buggy, but it's 2023, so best to err on the side of caution.
Sneak attack only once per round is based on the 5e version of sneak attack (which can be forgotten/not applied by many tables, but that's what it is raw) But yeah, Solasta being mostly focused on fights, the skill monkey part of the rogue isn't attractive, and a ranger will be much more optimal to play instead.
By raw you should be able to proc sneak attack from reactions as long as its another creatures turn in the same round. Sneak attack Beginning at 1st level, you know how to strike subtly and exploit a foe's distraction. Once per turn, you can deal an extra 1d6 damage to one creature you hit with an attack if you have advantage on the attack roll. The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon. Note once per turn not per round. Example of this would be if a rogue is under the haste effect. With his action the rogue could take the ready action; "attack x creature as soon as it makes a hostile act" (x creature should be within 5ft of an ally). Then the rogue attacks the same creature or different creature with the hasted action as long as you have advantage or ally within 5ft of the target. The rogue gets sneak attack on his turn and then when the conditons for the ready action are met and hits the creature will also proc sneak attack since it will be the target creatures turn (assuming conditions for sneak attack are still met).
@@VikCachat Oh i see. I wasn't thinking about sneak attack on a reaction, in the vid it was talked more about "not being able to sneak attack with multi-attacks like WotR".
@@okagisama this is 5e raw, i don't know if it is even possible in Solasta the ready action condition is limited to "first creature that does anything in range"
I don't have this title and will miss the wotr builds but commenting for the algo and to support any bro build vid. Hopefully BG3 will be a huge win for crpgs so having more stuff for other games in the genre is just a good thing. Building characters is one of the hardest learning curves for these types of games, keep showing the way bro
Funny I just got this game like 2 months ago and I was thinking how great it would be if you made some build videos on it. My wish has come true! my mans getting ready for bg3
Just want to add I like the concept of Concentration because the stacking of so many buffs in Pathfinder is absurd. I'm so glad that's gone. You are right about Human limitations, I normally prefer playing human characters or aasimar, but my main campaign party was high elf, sylvan elf, half-elf and dwarf. I'll be using them for the Palace DLC as well.
If you can be bothered to spend the time rolling, monks and barbarians can be outstanding tanks if you max Dex/Wis or Dex/Con respectively, and if you can max 3 stats, decent damage dealers too. I think way of survival monks in particular are excellent as tanks. If you go with point buy, however, they are no even close. Agree on battle clerics being fantastic. I would give a shout out to Paladins as amazing single target damage dealers, particularly with oath of judgement if you have other warriors to benefit. I personally played with a shock arcanist as my arcane caster as the passive bonus to damage spells is nice, but I understand twin magic can be great.
I like this game. I played the main campaign and a few workshop modules. Its a little rough around the edges and the story was just ok. But the verticality and lighting mechanics were really fresh, and the amount of tactical options amd wildly varied combat arenas were awesome to play through. Ill probably pick it up again if they ever make the level cap 20
I'd also really like if there was official campaign support for level 20! I found the story/setting to be overall average as well which is understandable based on their budget, but the gameplay part is great fun.
The unfinished buisness mod can increase level cap to 20, it can also enable multiclassing adds more subclasses, and you can enable more races/subraces like variant human (free feat and plus 2 abilities score bonus). The combat system is very well done, and I think this is the only crpg that has implemented flying so close to the ttrp, you can select a point in space to fly to and just hover there raining down death. BG3 flying mechanics in the EA for example is limited to surface to surface movement and immunity to ground effects (eg. No hovering 60 feet above ground only a slight levitation above a surface). It's effectively a very long ranged jump with ground effect immunity. Not worth a 3rd level spell slot imo unless they change it before release, but I'm assuming its a divinity engine limitation. WOTR has no flying mechanics, just some flavored abilities like the gryphon shifter.
@@jeremylackey6587 8th and 9th level spells are a bit light. The mod also adds more spells for lower levels, be careful with the mod settings; it can add spells to classes that shouldn't be able to cast them.
Dexterity can't hold a candle to the 25 (+7) Str you can get from a belt. When you could buy multiple tomes and get up to a 30 in a stat, it was a bit different.
I suppose the main issue is how late the belt comes, unfortunately, compared to the benefit of DEX being so amazing even at level 1. The Potions that increase STR are fun too!
Nice I really need another gane after so many hours of pathfinder. I've been looking at solasta for a long time but never give it a try - probably would do ot now.
Can't wait for you to cover bg3 once it comes out. I feel like Solasta devs are trying way too hard to recreate 5e systems to a tee without adding anything of their own and (while it would probably be fun on a tabletop) it leads to an underwhelming videogame experience
@@cRPGBro When I found out that we will get gloom stalker ranger even tough it's not phb I think I will play as Astarion as one. To be precise 5lv gloom stalker, 2lv fighter, 3 levels assasin. It will be awesome.
My first playthrough was with a hoodlum tank rogue. Its probly the only class worth to benefit from readied actions. Cuz it has only one attack anyways.
I agree with you that 31 ac is really good although it's funny there was custom campaign when enemies had +22 to hit so you needed 38 ac to be safe 😂. If you really sure and want a challenge try " midsummer nightmare" custom campaign.
If you want higher difficulty, then it might be more fun to skip all the cheese at the start. Like rerolling is busted (makes humans worthless). Skip the overpowered backgrounds such as giving armor to wizards, etc. Choose human and pick a fun character class to play and then rely more on your tactics and strategy to win. The only point of rerolling is to cheat right off the start. What's the point of having +1 if you can just reroll until you have all 18s? Lol
Ah, no variant human in Solasta? That's a shame. It makes humans really good in 5e tabletop, a bonus feat at level 1 is a big boost and worth the reduction in ability scores and no darkvision usually. Also you should only be getting a disadvantage on ranged attacks if the target is in total darkness, dim light should be present usually as torches and the light cantrip have 40yd dim light radius and mean that you only get disadvantage on perception checks. On tabletop we usually had a melee go in first with the light cantrip cast on them (usually a fighter or cleric) which removed ranged penalties for 40yds around the target. Sneak attack should be crucially once per "turn", not per round so if it's per round then that's not quite accurate to the 5e rules. That is, you can get sneak attack from an attack of opportunity on someone elses turn even if you already hit on your turn with sneak attack. Doesn't come up too often but rogues only get one attack per round and should ideally be usiing their bonus action to dash or disengage over an offhand attack.
I gave this a go and its not bad. However, the combination of limited ability to buff AB, limited number of attacks per round and turn based combat really taught me to hate the D20 system. Missing in this game feels awful particularly if you get several in a row and the chance of this occurring is almost never trivial. I think 2D10 or 3D6 would work better to make getting very unlucky much less likely. Sylvan elves for me all the way for me too.
Overall, it seems that your unusually attached to spike growth. I agree that it's a potent effect, but IMO it pales in comparison to the immense CC potential from other spells, and definitely doesn't earn the title of "best spell in the game" (That title 100% goes to Mind Twist, even after the nerf they gave it). Spike growth is a great pick at the point where you first get it, but quickly loses it's value once your sorcerer can perform an upcast heightened hold monster and instantly CC every major threat in the room. In general, the most potent effects in the game are ones that inflict paralyzed (IE Hold Monster) or unconscious (IE Eyebite) on an enemy, since attacks within 5ft. (1 tile) instantly crit unconscious or paralyzed targets. In a game where you can't stack a million buffs and debuffs on targets, the game becomes about finding the most powerful individual buffs (Greater Invisibility, Holy Aura, Blur) and the most debilitating individual debuffs (Mind Twist, Hold Monster, Eyebite, Slow). I think a great way to illustrate this is Haste. Haste is a spell that might at first appear to be a fantastic buff, with an extra action every round, but in reality it's kind of meh. The crux of why haste is bad comes down to the specific combination of it's downsides: 1. Haste is a concentration spell 2. When the spell ends, the target can't move or take actions until after its next turn This creates a number of problems. Because haste is a concentration spell and has such as debilitating effect if that concentration ends, it's very risky to use as a self buff, this means you need to have a separate caster maintaining concentration on the spell, which means its competing with their other concentration spells. Moreover, unlike with other concentration spells, said caster can't really afford to drop concentration on it to cast something else in the middle of combat, because of the aforementioned lethargy effect. Finally, the buff from haste is actually mathematically worse than the benefit you could get from other spells (Blur is a greater effective AC boost, Greater Invisibility is a better DPR boost since invisibility grants you advantage on all your attacks). The result of all of this is that Haste is almost never worth casting because it requires far too much commitment for the minor action economy boost it grants. The best concentration spells IMO are the ones that have very powerful, but short effects, rather than persistent effects that provide a minor impact, because of the effect juggling that you sometimes need to do in high level combat.
@@pawep2966 IMO the sorcerer is the last person who should be casting haste. Haste doesn't really benefit from any of the metamagic options other than twinned spell (extend spell adding a minute is mostly negligible since most combat encounters don't last more than ten rounds anyway), and Solasta's 4 party limit means you don't really have room for two martials, plus I personally think sorcerers can get a lot more value out of crowd control spells since they can use Heightened Spell to inflict disadvantage on saving throws. I do agree that the potions of speed are indeed worth using, as well as Timekeeper warlock's Accelerate feature. I was specifically talking about the Haste spell, which in my opinion has too many downsides compared to other spells. IMO Haste should either not have the lethargy effect or not be concentration, the fact that you have to commit to keeping haste up throughout the entire combat is the thing that kills it in my opinion, since it restricts your caster's flexibility mid combat since they can't simply drop the spell if would be more advantageous to cast something else. Most other concentration spells can be dropped safely when a different spell needs to be cast, and most of the spells that have extra drawbacks to dropping concentration are highly powerful summon spells like Conjure Elemental or Summon Greater Demon. Haste is decent, but it just isn't powerful enough to warrant its debilitating drawback.
@@theninjaguy2 you should always have two martials like paladin/barbarian as a tank and rogue/ranger as ranged. My typical party always include raven(after level 9 haste means she can sneak attack another time - it's priceless) divine sorcerer for twinning spells like haste again, greater invisibility and aslo bless and healing word. Third spot is melee martial like palabard/sorcadin/bardbarian(depending on the multiclass can also get access to haste) Forth slot can be anything for me most of the time it's another sorcerer for aoe and cc.
Hey CRPG Bro! Nice sseing you covering Solasta, the game is amazing. Are you aware of Bounded Accuracy design principle used in D&D 5e? Rogues can activate Sneak Attack only once per round so the damage dont scale to a creep, but they still have amazing DPS. On a different topic, any plans to cover Kingmaker?
Yep, the random encounters are surreal! The worst to me are the ones with so many enemies that they're pretty much impossible at low levels, especially if you get ambushed, like 10x Thugs or 10x Spiders, talk about insanity.
I played through Solasta once, and immediately went back to playing other games. It just doesn't hold any appeal to me since it is so close to the vanilla 5e experience, but with all the worst assumptions about encounter design. It's just so bad and needs heavy modding to be passable in terms of gameplay, builds, and challenge.
I'll explain it better in my Monk Guide, but to put it simply, Monks can have many attacks/round, even at level 1! Which isn't the case for most classes.
Would you like to see more SOLASTA videos?
I have some great Build Guides in mind!
Yes, please!!!
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Just got into this game, great timing
You're the best at what you do man, you're hard work is appreciated
Concentration is a balancing requirement for 5e, to prevent buff spam from prior editions and to try to close the martial caster divide.
But even with the concentration mechanic full casters still out perform martials with just decent spell picks.
i loved your video ..and i love Solasta..Bg3 is a masterpiece but Solasta is a hidden gem
Oh, right, Baldur is right around the corner. Man thanks to your builds I got over 300 hours in Wrath of the Righteous, big thanks again for the awesome builds. I wonder what will we be able to cook in Baldur. The studio's previous games, mainly Divinity Original Sin 2, had some fun and interesting builds. Fingers crossed they don't disappoint this time!
Oh and Solasta is nice, but I mostly enjoyed it in a coop with my brother and 2 of our friends. It was wacky, it was challenging (almost got wiped by the starting goblins) but it was fun.
Also excited for Baldur's Gate 3!
I'm planning on doing Guides & Builds for BG1&2 meanwhile as well.
Love it, played the base game, bought the expansions but haven't gotten around to playing those, let's get those guides rolling!
Your WotR guides usually make me want to play another playthrough of that game... Up to 529h played as of now...
Same here, when I get back to Solasta I think I'll play Palace first to finish up the main narrative, then do Lost Valley which is a standalone.
Really great to see you diversify away from just WOTR ! I enjoyed this game, but of course, looking forward to Baldur’s Gate 3 in a couple months. You would add a lot of value there for sure and it is a much bigger game as well !
Bg3 is a month away now. They moved up pc release to august 3 or july 31 for digital deluxe/EA.
@@VikCachat true !
My holy "moly" of four:
- Court Mage, a best defender in the game
- Circle of Balance Druid, top tier healer as a gift of life removes death effect from the party member on their turn
- Paladin of Judgment, a single target dps machine in meele and range, and static auras...
- Battle Cleric, just to keep company for others
Such a fun game. I love making 4 characters. Don’t sleep on Bards! They are a lot of fun to play. The Lore school can give you access to some pretty fun spells like fireball and the cleric aura.
I prefer concentration mechanic over stacking 1363636536 buffs like in Pathfinder, this stacking slows the game so much; I spend over 2 minutes buffing everyone once I enter a map in WotR I think. Concentration requires you to actually choose your buffs instead.
Ah, now he is a master of Solasta!
Thanks, friend 😁
It's almost surreal seeing you NOT covering WoTR xD. I know you had a stint with Elden Ring, but you'll always be the go-to WoTR TH-cam guy.
Anyway, glad you're covering Solasta since it's on my CRPG shortlist. Guess you'll be covering BG3 too then? There should be a whole heap of your videos out on it by the time I feel it's patched enough to give it a go. Not that it will necessarily be buggy, but it's 2023, so best to err on the side of caution.
Yep, it was about time to cover more cRPGs! We have a lot of fun ones, after all.
Definitely covering BG3 too!
I am thinking of buying Solasta as it is only a tenner on Steam right now, but I still have so many games to get through already.
It can be quite fun if you like cRPGs, especially to get the hang of basic 5th Edition D&D mechanics!
Nice. Now we need 10+ builds for Solasta. :)
I bought it today thanks to a Steam offer. It was a nice surprise when I saw this video
Great to hear!
I've been playing Solasta for a while, especially with the new DLC release last month, and it's definitely great fun!
Sneak attack only once per round is based on the 5e version of sneak attack (which can be forgotten/not applied by many tables, but that's what it is raw)
But yeah, Solasta being mostly focused on fights, the skill monkey part of the rogue isn't attractive, and a ranger will be much more optimal to play instead.
By raw you should be able to proc sneak attack from reactions as long as its another creatures turn in the same round.
Sneak attack
Beginning at 1st level, you know how to strike subtly and exploit a foe's distraction. Once per turn, you can deal an extra 1d6 damage to one creature you hit with an attack if you have advantage on the attack roll. The attack must use a finesse or a ranged weapon.
Note once per turn not per round.
Example of this would be if a rogue is under the haste effect. With his action the rogue could take the ready action; "attack x creature as soon as it makes a hostile act" (x creature should be within 5ft of an ally). Then the rogue attacks the same creature or different creature with the hasted action as long as you have advantage or ally within 5ft of the target. The rogue gets sneak attack on his turn and then when the conditons for the ready action are met and hits the creature will also proc sneak attack since it will be the target creatures turn (assuming conditions for sneak attack are still met).
@@VikCachat Oh i see. I wasn't thinking about sneak attack on a reaction, in the vid it was talked more about "not being able to sneak attack with multi-attacks like WotR".
@@okagisama this is 5e raw, i don't know if it is even possible in Solasta the ready action condition is limited to "first creature that does anything in range"
I don't have this title and will miss the wotr builds but commenting for the algo and to support any bro build vid. Hopefully BG3 will be a huge win for crpgs so having more stuff for other games in the genre is just a good thing. Building characters is one of the hardest learning curves for these types of games, keep showing the way bro
Fear not for more WOTR Builds and Guides are also planned, and certainly BG3 too!
Funny I just got this game like 2 months ago and I was thinking how great it would be if you made some build videos on it. My wish has come true! my mans getting ready for bg3
Nice to see you branching out from WotR into other CRPGS!
Just want to add I like the concept of Concentration because the stacking of so many buffs in Pathfinder is absurd. I'm so glad that's gone. You are right about Human limitations, I normally prefer playing human characters or aasimar, but my main campaign party was high elf, sylvan elf, half-elf and dwarf. I'll be using them for the Palace DLC as well.
If you can be bothered to spend the time rolling, monks and barbarians can be outstanding tanks if you max Dex/Wis or Dex/Con respectively, and if you can max 3 stats, decent damage dealers too. I think way of survival monks in particular are excellent as tanks. If you go with point buy, however, they are no even close. Agree on battle clerics being fantastic. I would give a shout out to Paladins as amazing single target damage dealers, particularly with oath of judgement if you have other warriors to benefit. I personally played with a shock arcanist as my arcane caster as the passive bonus to damage spells is nice, but I understand twin magic can be great.
I really like cataclysm difficulty. Such an incredible challenge. Reminds me of act 1 on unfair. You need to have perfect strategy.
I like this game. I played the main campaign and a few workshop modules. Its a little rough around the edges and the story was just ok.
But the verticality and lighting mechanics were really fresh, and the amount of tactical options amd wildly varied combat arenas were awesome to play through.
Ill probably pick it up again if they ever make the level cap 20
I'd also really like if there was official campaign support for level 20!
I found the story/setting to be overall average as well which is understandable based on their budget, but the gameplay part is great fun.
The unfinished buisness mod can increase level cap to 20, it can also enable multiclassing adds more subclasses, and you can enable more races/subraces like variant human (free feat and plus 2 abilities score bonus).
The combat system is very well done, and I think this is the only crpg that has implemented flying so close to the ttrp, you can select a point in space to fly to and just hover there raining down death.
BG3 flying mechanics in the EA for example is limited to surface to surface movement and immunity to ground effects (eg. No hovering 60 feet above ground only a slight levitation above a surface). It's effectively a very long ranged jump with ground effect immunity. Not worth a 3rd level spell slot imo unless they change it before release, but I'm assuming its a divinity engine limitation.
WOTR has no flying mechanics, just some flavored abilities like the gryphon shifter.
@@VikCachat yo, thanks for letting me know this mod exists. 👌
@@jeremylackey6587 8th and 9th level spells are a bit light. The mod also adds more spells for lower levels, be careful with the mod settings; it can add spells to classes that shouldn't be able to cast them.
Been thinking about picking solasta back up while I wait for bg3… have so many hours playing this game and working builds
What kind of PC Monitor do you have? I've been a fan for along time and love your content and how much you bring to the community! Ty for all you do!
Dexterity can't hold a candle to the 25 (+7) Str you can get from a belt.
When you could buy multiple tomes and get up to a 30 in a stat, it was a bit different.
I suppose the main issue is how late the belt comes, unfortunately, compared to the benefit of DEX being so amazing even at level 1.
The Potions that increase STR are fun too!
Nice I really need another gane after so many hours of pathfinder. I've been looking at solasta for a long time but never give it a try - probably would do ot now.
Can't wait for you to cover bg3 once it comes out. I feel like Solasta devs are trying way too hard to recreate 5e systems to a tee without adding anything of their own and (while it would probably be fun on a tabletop) it leads to an underwhelming videogame experience
yes, i give that game a go, while waiting for bg3, i am interested in build guides for solasta
Thank you! More Solasta guides coming soon.
I did not finish the video but I gave you a like becz I like you 😂
Well well well just downloaded this game, got bugged in the stealth tutorial so I really need a beginner's guide 😂
So now you tried to put up your skills to the test in 5e? Amazing!
Yep, gotta get ready for Baldur's Gate 3!
@@cRPGBro When I found out that we will get gloom stalker ranger even tough it's not phb I think I will play as Astarion as one. To be precise 5lv gloom stalker, 2lv fighter, 3 levels assasin.
It will be awesome.
i feel like your sleeping on barbarians all thst res really helps definitely helps
I will be waiting for your Baldur Gates 3 guides crpgBro :D
My first playthrough was with a hoodlum tank rogue. Its probly the only class worth to benefit from readied actions. Cuz it has only one attack anyways.
How do I get the Grave Singer in this game :)
I agree with you that 31 ac is really good although it's funny there was custom campaign when enemies had +22 to hit so you needed 38 ac to be safe 😂.
If you really sure and want a challenge try " midsummer nightmare" custom campaign.
That is nice to know, thanks!
I'm fine with enemies have such high to hit, so long as the custom campaign also gives you gear with better values 😁
@@cRPGBro You are definitely better to bring characters with the best gear since you start at level 12 and provided gear is not great.
Why do you need to bother about somebody able to push +22 attack? Hold monster or dominate monster to make a best friend out of such mob.
@@leevothas good luck when enemy has magic resistance and also +12 on saving throws.
A great video, thank you.
Always glad to be of service, more Solasta videos coming soon too!
Pathfinder you charge into every combat, Solasta you stealth into every combat?
If you want higher difficulty, then it might be more fun to skip all the cheese at the start. Like rerolling is busted (makes humans worthless). Skip the overpowered backgrounds such as giving armor to wizards, etc. Choose human and pick a fun character class to play and then rely more on your tactics and strategy to win. The only point of rerolling is to cheat right off the start. What's the point of having +1 if you can just reroll until you have all 18s? Lol
Guess it's time to buy solsata 😮
Ah, no variant human in Solasta? That's a shame. It makes humans really good in 5e tabletop, a bonus feat at level 1 is a big boost and worth the reduction in ability scores and no darkvision usually. Also you should only be getting a disadvantage on ranged attacks if the target is in total darkness, dim light should be present usually as torches and the light cantrip have 40yd dim light radius and mean that you only get disadvantage on perception checks. On tabletop we usually had a melee go in first with the light cantrip cast on them (usually a fighter or cleric) which removed ranged penalties for 40yds around the target.
Sneak attack should be crucially once per "turn", not per round so if it's per round then that's not quite accurate to the 5e rules. That is, you can get sneak attack from an attack of opportunity on someone elses turn even if you already hit on your turn with sneak attack. Doesn't come up too often but rogues only get one attack per round and should ideally be usiing their bonus action to dash or disengage over an offhand attack.
I gave this a go and its not bad. However, the combination of limited ability to buff AB, limited number of attacks per round and turn based combat really taught me to hate the D20 system. Missing in this game feels awful particularly if you get several in a row and the chance of this occurring is almost never trivial. I think 2D10 or 3D6 would work better to make getting very unlucky much less likely.
Sylvan elves for me all the way for me too.
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Overall, it seems that your unusually attached to spike growth. I agree that it's a potent effect, but IMO it pales in comparison to the immense CC potential from other spells, and definitely doesn't earn the title of "best spell in the game" (That title 100% goes to Mind Twist, even after the nerf they gave it). Spike growth is a great pick at the point where you first get it, but quickly loses it's value once your sorcerer can perform an upcast heightened hold monster and instantly CC every major threat in the room. In general, the most potent effects in the game are ones that inflict paralyzed (IE Hold Monster) or unconscious (IE Eyebite) on an enemy, since attacks within 5ft. (1 tile) instantly crit unconscious or paralyzed targets.
In a game where you can't stack a million buffs and debuffs on targets, the game becomes about finding the most powerful individual buffs (Greater Invisibility, Holy Aura, Blur) and the most debilitating individual debuffs (Mind Twist, Hold Monster, Eyebite, Slow). I think a great way to illustrate this is Haste. Haste is a spell that might at first appear to be a fantastic buff, with an extra action every round, but in reality it's kind of meh. The crux of why haste is bad comes down to the specific combination of it's downsides:
1. Haste is a concentration spell
2. When the spell ends, the target can't move or take actions until after its next turn
This creates a number of problems. Because haste is a concentration spell and has such as debilitating effect if that concentration ends, it's very risky to use as a self buff, this means you need to have a separate caster maintaining concentration on the spell, which means its competing with their other concentration spells. Moreover, unlike with other concentration spells, said caster can't really afford to drop concentration on it to cast something else in the middle of combat, because of the aforementioned lethargy effect. Finally, the buff from haste is actually mathematically worse than the benefit you could get from other spells (Blur is a greater effective AC boost, Greater Invisibility is a better DPR boost since invisibility grants you advantage on all your attacks). The result of all of this is that Haste is almost never worth casting because it requires far too much commitment for the minor action economy boost it grants. The best concentration spells IMO are the ones that have very powerful, but short effects, rather than persistent effects that provide a minor impact, because of the effect juggling that you sometimes need to do in high level combat.
Haste is amazing spell especially if it is casted by sorcerer. Also later you get access to haste potions so concentration is not a problem.
@@pawep2966 IMO the sorcerer is the last person who should be casting haste. Haste doesn't really benefit from any of the metamagic options other than twinned spell (extend spell adding a minute is mostly negligible since most combat encounters don't last more than ten rounds anyway), and Solasta's 4 party limit means you don't really have room for two martials, plus I personally think sorcerers can get a lot more value out of crowd control spells since they can use Heightened Spell to inflict disadvantage on saving throws.
I do agree that the potions of speed are indeed worth using, as well as Timekeeper warlock's Accelerate feature. I was specifically talking about the Haste spell, which in my opinion has too many downsides compared to other spells. IMO Haste should either not have the lethargy effect or not be concentration, the fact that you have to commit to keeping haste up throughout the entire combat is the thing that kills it in my opinion, since it restricts your caster's flexibility mid combat since they can't simply drop the spell if would be more advantageous to cast something else.
Most other concentration spells can be dropped safely when a different spell needs to be cast, and most of the spells that have extra drawbacks to dropping concentration are highly powerful summon spells like Conjure Elemental or Summon Greater Demon. Haste is decent, but it just isn't powerful enough to warrant its debilitating drawback.
@@theninjaguy2 you should always have two martials like paladin/barbarian as a tank and rogue/ranger as ranged.
My typical party always include raven(after level 9 haste means she can sneak attack another time - it's priceless)
divine sorcerer for twinning spells like haste again, greater invisibility and aslo bless and healing word.
Third spot is melee martial like palabard/sorcadin/bardbarian(depending on the multiclass can also get access to haste)
Forth slot can be anything for me most of the time it's another sorcerer for aoe and cc.
My little german ubermensch is at it again
Hey CRPG Bro!
Nice sseing you covering Solasta, the game is amazing. Are you aware of Bounded Accuracy design principle used in D&D 5e? Rogues can activate Sneak Attack only once per round so the damage dont scale to a creep, but they still have amazing DPS.
On a different topic, any plans to cover Kingmaker?
I had a random encounter at level 7 with 2 adult and 1 juvenile rhemoraz.
Yep, the random encounters are surreal!
The worst to me are the ones with so many enemies that they're pretty much impossible at low levels, especially if you get ambushed, like 10x Thugs or 10x Spiders, talk about insanity.
@@cRPGBroI had the ten thugs and I found it more worse than the soraks😂. When the threat of the kingdom is less dangerous than simple thugs.
Sorry no +2 for human race. LMAO... :P
oh whats this game? if crpg is playing it then im going to steam store
Lmao I literally just bought this
I played through Solasta once, and immediately went back to playing other games. It just doesn't hold any appeal to me since it is so close to the vanilla 5e experience, but with all the worst assumptions about encounter design. It's just so bad and needs heavy modding to be passable in terms of gameplay, builds, and challenge.
monk is a descent choice in solasta, why?
in 5e they are well know for being the most underpowered class, even worse than the ranger
I'll explain it better in my Monk Guide, but to put it simply, Monks can have many attacks/round, even at level 1! Which isn't the case for most classes.
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I wanted to get into solasta but it's way too British for me
You can tell you dont play D&D lmao.
Wait 5e? Aww so lame. Why couldn't they just use 3.5.
This system is just so dumb compared to Pathfinder and NWN. Is this game even fun?
Hope this doesn't mean the end to wotr builds.
Not at all!
Mythic Path Tier list coming soon at last, plus we'll get new classes & abilities for the next DLC too.
lol, well clearly terrible guide. elves dont hold a candle to halfling. its not even close.