How has NO ONE thought of this BEFORE? - WC3 - Grubby
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- How has NO ONE thought of this BEFORE? (Game played on 4-October-2023)
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Oppo fighting for dear life at 11:25, meanwhile Grubby shares childhood story like he's sitting next to the fireplace.
the best part is at 12:15 where grubby gets so immersed in his own story that he forgets about the game, letting pit lord almost die
@@sadcyclops8909Believe In lvl 3 healing wave.
@@saimyintmyat9373 believe in multiple rings of protection, an armor scroll, a healing ward, healing wave lvl 3 and tier 3 armor upgrade and not to forget a fat tanking hero
Came here looking for this comment.
@@sadcyclops8909 THIS lol. Thought I think he knew that he could just lvl 3 heal at any moment. It was low key power display ;)
Hahaha I love the banter with the opponent at the end!
Refreshing to see some good hearted ribbing
Yea. But tbh just the usual enemy grief, copium for having failed.
*0:00** - Build Recommendation*
- Discusses a unique build recommended by Save Oras, designed to enable a weak starting hero like Shadow Hunter or Toren Chieftain.
*0:20** - Strategy*
- Starts with five peons in gold mine, then pull one for simultaneous alter and barracks construction. Hero comes out 14 seconds later, but you get an additional grunt.
*1:07** - Shadow Hunter Focus*
- The strategy is particularly effective for a Shadow Hunter, giving it more grunts for creeping.
*1:55** - Pillage Trick*
- Describes how to use a pillage trick to get around supply block issues, allowing for continuous unit production.
*2:56** - Warcraft Quirks*
- Comments on quirks of Warcraft's older game engine, particularly around supply blocks.
*3:21** - Creeping*
- Discusses how the build allows for effective creeping.
*4:37** - Item Choices*
- Focuses on getting clarities and discusses secondary hero choices.
*6:10** - Pillaging*
- Highlights the gains from using the "Pillage" ability.
*7:00** - Game Mechanics*
- Converses about game mechanics, like the absence of gamma adjustment and how some abilities work.
*8:48** - Upgrades*
- Describes working on troll regeneration and armor upgrades.
*9:55** - Hero Interaction*
- Engages in chat about hero interaction and game mechanics, such as why some units can't be healed with certain spells.
*11:17** - Nostalgia and Role Play*
- Shares a nostalgic moment of playing similar games with a sibling and the concept of being “invincible”.
*13:12** - Conclusion*
- Game ends with a strong performance, showcasing the efficacy of the build.
*Jargon Explained*
- *Peons:* Worker units for the Orc race.
- *Alter:* Place where heroes are summoned.
- *Barracks:* Building for training basic units like grunts.
- *Creeping:* Killing neutral units on the map for experience and items.
- *Pillage:* Ability that allows certain units to gain resources while attacking buildings.
- *Supply Block:* Reaching the unit limit, restricting additional unit production.
- *Clarities:* Items that regenerate a hero's mana over time.
- *Spirit Link:* An ability that distributes damage among linked units.
- *Creeping:* In Warcraft, "creeping" refers to the act of killing neutral, computer-controlled monsters (creeps) on the map to gain experience, gold, and sometimes items for your hero and units. It's a way to make your army stronger without engaging the enemy directly.
is this for a school project? lol. thx for the play by play, whatever the reason!
Love you ❤🎉
Clearly shows how much you can learn from a single grubby vid!
@@justinhowe3878 Not a school project. I was just trying GPT4. I pasted the transcript and asked for a bullet list with timestamps. Then I watched the video and asked about the words I didn't understand.
@@justinhowe3878it’s clearly AI generated guys
Can't argue with Logan. It was a good deed!
My little cousin and i back when i was 6-8yrs old would often role play as humans or elves. I am a large fan of anything wizard till today, so naturally i would impersonate the human wizard hero and the occasional moon priestess, and as we lived in a farm large sticks were often around us, i had a stick with a pillow as a head of a horse and another with a few marbles at the tip hot glued for a magic staff. My cousin would be the paladin with a sword cause he loved Arthas, and we would go around roleplaying, often pespering my cousin's older sister and our grandmother, i remember us shouting the names of the orc and undead heroes pretending to have a gruesome fight around the house SGFSIDJYTDY.
Up voted for relatable story and ragdoll in the profile
this is all so freekn cute
This start is how my noob ass plays.
Pillage n grunts xD
Watching this actually helps me see transition amd understand my own play style better then i even knew it 😂
Thanks grubby you da G
Picking the WINlord is a guaranteed win. So I knew the outcome from the start.
Nobody will believe me but this is how I always did my builds back in the day. Orc heroes creep slowly without healing so I alwayd made 2 like this.
I believe you! Its a very natural flowing strategy that probably many used over the years. I used it also. 😁
Why no one believe you? What? Always in RTS chobos do things for years before it became pro, this was often how it was done! [Btw: I used this opening, too but for 4v4 Sh solo as a fun strat :P] ...Changed meta, new meta... things need to evolve and find their way into high lvl, transition etc, lining up with other new findings or new strats who together make that BO (sometimes) worth on high level. And stuff takes also time to prove it works and what not. You dont believ how stubborn ppl are on given strats! How often I heard in talk with dunning krugers: "Didnt see it on pro level must suck" blablabla
Always do what works for you personally.
Furthermore: what's possible someone has probably done somewhere before, just didn't bother enough or was't great otherwise i.e. in micro! Thats why some pros said: I saw my (weaker) opponent do this great strategy on me, but I thought I can do that much better,
i.e. Uthermal (sc2) used such exact strat to win vs a Korean in a tournament...
Hf
You ever wonder why rock golems and trolls and what ever hang out in camps just chillin?
we all got high by the gold mine
Warcraft 3 is such a cool game - very fun strategy! Pillage is fantastic and I love this hero combo.
Pretty sure anyone who prefers to open sh or tc does that. You can do a normal opener with sh if you use wards especially in team games but in 1v1 tc/sh has always been about 2nd fast grunt. The food increase from Town centre made it perfectly reasonable and arguably preferable to the typical 1 grunt fast tech for these two, especially in 1v1
Yea I do it in 4v4 for years. For SH first xD. But I always considered it a fun strat! (4V4 was always for fun strats) At least as solo hero, which is almost the only reason to start with SH...
I think his title and first sentences is 100% clickbait more than anything honest. As what you say ppl do it for said reason, just not on pro as those heroes are a little lackluster in some cases.
I really wanted to see how many enemies he killed. You had the entire army at the end
have never really played warcraft but this is def my type of build and made me wanna start
This exists since the 2000s. It was a 3s build. Been doing it ever since with TC
Thank you for proving that you can be light hearted and still try hard at the game!
Lore accurate depiction of a Pit Lord battling a village of orcs
I use to play like this in 2004 when TFT come out.
Grubby please try this build also with FS, should be even more powerful
Same, that was also my main build at that time
No cap I used to play like this because I didn't know what to do with a solo hero and no units, I'd do barracks first then altar on orc. I was bad back then (still am lol), and I had another friend who went that way.
It's not that the build wasn't discovered, rather not used in high end play.
I feel like the tutorial kind of leads you down this path.
I used the same strategy , but used to be bad haha
For someone who wants to save orcas, they sure like to pay attention to warcraft 3.
love the take to logan at the end rofl
This really does creep really well.
On a larger map (for even more creeping), would be good to also get Tauren Chieftain 3rd.
12:55 That pit lord, after weathering all of the enemy's spears and magic, probably said "A worthy effort... but futile!"
Everytime Pit Lord's name comes out as Azgalor you better sit damn sure that he is gonna stomp.
I enjoy when people have a bit more t1 units in game
I hope we get more Rambo Pit Lord videos, I always love to see you using him!
I'm almost certain this starting build order as in the WC3 battle chest strategy guide. I always thought this build was considered bad because you got your hero really late on most maps it would be down a whole level.
Undead Tower Rush, gotta use blight stick
12:06 that from the punisher (1989)
It was my regular build with farseer
this is my build in 2003-2004 after frozen throne launched, I made perfection with store as well, so 1 will have 1FS + 2Grunts + 2 healingsalve, then immediately rush to opponent base while producing and rallying grunts, sending back all red with healing salve, there's will be a time when enemy succeeded the defend, by that you start producing catapult and TP and recover, in the second wave of rushing it would be really hard for enemy to defend. Fyi this build is not working well against UD
Pitlord seems to be difficult to kill with armor rings, can weaken armies with howl of terror, and threatens positioning with cleave. But TC's endurance aura helps your whole team and can offer AoE stun.
Amazing build!
saveorcas is a genius
this orc build , works realy well on bigger maps :D
You bought pit lord so fast that i didn't even see you target the shop the 1st time, had to rewind to see what happened
Allot of dogs are alone during the day, your dog living the best life. You are not always home but you always talks to him!
I had this same build order back in 2002... Shadow hunter wasn't a thing back then.
My Husky Vincent also sleeps on top of his hand like Logan
9:38 you shoved like 400 gold in his face and now he's like "nooooow we're talkin"
This is quite cool, sir.
funnily enough I did this a long time ago, before I learned most RTS or wc3 concepts.
I never thought I'd live to see god
Funny thing is, and I know the opponent was not among the best players, but it seems SO easy. So I'd actually recommend this build to myself and any new joiners. It is the most non micro related orc build because you have 1-mass grunt & HH, 2 - heal/howl of terror. So you only need to micro your units, use 1 spell from a hero and spirit link. So having low apm would not have such an effect as it would if you go with the meta stuff. And last but not least, SH first is the most enjoyable opening for orc and it gives such flexibility that it's beyond me how it has not somehow been incorporated into the meta :D (unfortunately)
that is a tavern hero timing, as far as i remember
I always started with this build in 2003/4 as a noob, thought it was standard. I couldn't kill any creep camps with 1 grunt 1 hero. might have been supply capping myself or nerfing lumber income with 20 pop at the time
Nice game grubby
Those evil lemon grabbing Schwarzeneggers
Good deed confirmed!
4:10 I have faced this several time actually SINCE reforged, never in classic. Must be because of their new/re-engineered engine. In 1v1 but actually more in 4v4 when creeps from another camp suddenly came over wasn't even close xD. I could tell you 4 exact spots on top of my head where it almost always happens, and I see it on others i replay sometimes.
So It's clearly a bug.
Too bad they are not listening to 4v4/team game community, otherwise we could turn OFF the gyrocopter ground attack, ofc with delay and cooldown (so to ensure it for strategy not as a trick), because you don't want to research it for combats (.....), but it's nice add vs buildings or special cases. (i.e. no ground aa expected) again cooldown and delay, this is 100% legit and useful for teamgames SIMILAR to the new gargoyle micro button!! (Which is only for micro purpose) But the gyro thing has more purposes, covering the disadvantages of the research - BECAUSE it is a research , it should (optionally) not give those disadvantages!!
Warden also gives off main protagonist energy, back in the day, I once won a game with Demon Hunter solo, it costed my base, but level 10 Demonhunter with stacked items makes it Dota 2
lvl 10 DL with OoC, and filled with blades of attack can be too.
that replay into live play o.o
Good deed confirmed
The pokemon is Arcanine.... Arcanite is a mineral in Azeroth
Arcanite is just referring to arcane infused ore
It's a big mess with undead status of non-undead units. You can heal a fel hound with a coil, but not a fel beast or fel ravager. Basically, if I remember correctly, coil kills every demon that wasn't in ROC. Also, holy light heals archer skeleton and some other obviously undead units. Idk if blizzard fixed it.
lol used this start in 2005 when i was playing orc in 2 vs 2
Hey guys, where does he play warcraft 3 online with other people? and can you play other mods aswell such as : angel arena, troll vs elves and different games in it?
Pitlord thought he was playing Dota
Хммм Грабби прокачал граббеж))) круто)
pitlord have 4 feets and 2 arms so you should get 4 boots of speed (or of +6agi) and 2 gaunt of hast (or str+3)
Weird. This is how a lot of me and my crew would normally play cuz we would all rush each other.
Obviously not at this level...
I always do this build with orc. I thought it was noob build. I like having healing and i like shadow hunter lvl 3 + lvl 5 midgame is almost gg but it's hard to get there fast enough because he is so weak pre lvl 3
tremble before meat
couldnt you just have the hero come out as quickly as usual, and then sit around for 12 seconds waiting for the second grunt? also why would you have 1 extra grunt at any point in time? you could just do one more grunt if desired even if you build your hero from the get-go?
Less mining time that way.
I'm certain this opener has been in use for a long time; it just never had any exposure at high level.
Was this strategy inspired by your dota knowledge?
Oitems laddie
With a neutral hero you can have normal hero (not late) and also two grunts.
What 1st neutral hero would you recommend as Orc?
@@BlankeeStarcraft It depends on what you want to do, and against what race you are.
If you want to go hero focus, alchemist is nice, with chemical bomb, second you go blade master.
If you go mass headunters, tinker with factory or beast master with bear to tank can be very strong.
Against undead - pitlord is awesome, it can't be coiled, also the spells are great, especially agaimst mass ghouls, howl and cleave will kill the ghouls very fast.
But, as I said it depends on the enemy race and your own style, if you want to harass or creep.
Do undead go mass ghouls vs orc? Seems folly, like they'd be better off massing crypt fiends instead. @@eugenb9017
Bro this was dope
Howl of Terror + Spirit Link + Healing Wave = literally nothing ever dies
Meanwhile the cleave damage on Pitlord just keeps compounding until enemy has to retreat or die
Very cool strategy to see
How are you playing old WC3
2004 2 Grunt Tech
How do you change between armies? What's the hot key?
Tab unitswap
Or give them groups woth strg and number
@@Pferdesalami ty
I didn't know wc3 had extractor tricks
I used this build order like 15 years ago...
Logan be zzz😴💤🦮🐶
At the start of game, rax, first peon to altar, 2nd peon to burrow, 3rd peon to gold, 4th to wood, 5th to wood, 6th to wood and at 40 wood turn-in, another burrow. -> allows you to continuously pump grunts and still gets your hero out relatively fast, gets you 3 grunts before night time and still lines up for a relatively decent shop and tier 2 timing.
it was the badest deed i ever saw!
instant like ... because SH!
Next game is Logan with an Irish accent.
Pitlord isnt undead, he is a demon. It makes sense that coil doesnt work on him.
He also doesnt have amplified regenerarion on blight, right?
You can coil PL in pvp.
You can even holy light Dmgs PL.
People that say Pitlord is a Demon in chat... well ye I guess. But all races in the burning legion are considered Demons.
The Eredar in the legion are also Demons, not really useful in that sense 😅
Lol enemy, spirit link just increase, pitlord cleave, what a folish boy.
2020 was 8 years ago.
How is this build order new? Surely building all 5 peons directly onto gold is a natural decision.
This is similar to what a 14 year old me would do.. but im no pro and i hardly win regardless lol im 29 now and never knew i was on to something lol
I have actually done this in 4v4 for years. xD (I do not play 1v1) Why? Ofc nothing serious but shadow hunter level 6 as goal. Or it's good for TC. I think it comes naturally to create such BO when you have a goal in mind, here supporting a weak starting hero.
The pause at 10 for the additional grunt seems like a must / logical thing all would do, if you want this. And other BOs had involved pausing worker production for faster anything.
You do lose a bit of resources by cancelling upgrades yeah?
No
@@JB-jm6lo When was that changed?
@@ElvenSpellmakerIt was always like that IIRC. The only cancel that cost you resources is buildings
@@kevin-7091 Oh OK, I knew there was something, maybe it is just buildings then... Could've sworn cancelling researches or upgrades took some of the money.
you can just start with barracks first
lol. Ive used this for years.
You sound like your nose is super clogged up.... Are you currently feeling sick? O_o
do you honestly think this is new??? ROFL
this was used ALL the time during the 2003-2005 tourney days!!!
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works really really well in 3s, if you have a NE who goes POTM that feeds orc and ud
i do that in 4v4
Uh I am a little astonished that you call this "new", I played this in 2003/2004 in league. Low league nothing to mention but it was a standard build for me.
"SPOILERS"
Man, Orc got absolutely clobbered by Undead in the last tournament. Both Lyn and FoCus lost ALL games to Eer0 and Happy. The final score was 10-0 Undead-Orc. And the worst part is that Undead won 10 games in a total playing time of less than 2 hours. In fact, around 90 minutes!. The 2 hard nerfs to HH + the previous 2 hard nerfs to Far Seer + the buff to ghouls made this matchup unplayable. Poor Lyn tried 3 different builds againt 120 and still lost 3 games in 30 minutes!! Everything just dies to endless waves of frenzied ghouls + skeletons with coil/nova fed by statues killing everything. You can't even run away because frenzied + Unholy aura makes ghouls 2 X faster than HH. Orc goes flying experience tomes to avoiid the insane spee an DPS of ghouls, and the Undead heroes level even *faster* as wyverns are even squisher to nova than HH. It's an absolute joke. It's funny that people used to say that Happy is the best of all times, when he's being helped by imbalance all these years. Because it's not just Happy dominating, but also 120. 120 beat both Lyn 3-0 and FoCus 2-0 as well.
Imagine how annoying it must be to have to play Grubby. You just log in to have some fun, kill some time and this guy just mops the floor with you. If you’re lucky you’ll kill 1 of his units. If you’re lucky.
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Not bragging, because I am a dumb casual, but this has always been my TC-first orc build order way back since TFT came out. It's just simpler and I was never gosu enough to do anything impactful with a hero 14 seconds earlier anyway.
Second
Wait, what the frick?! Why does this game start as a replay, then suddenly, it's a live game and Grubby is actually playing?!? hella confused
*First*