You're right. It was Jason Derulo's 2nd #1 on Hot100 but his last one was about 10-15 years ago. Savage Love peaked at #8 on hot100, but when he did the remix with BTS members it went straight to #1 (but he never gave BTS the probs and took the credit for himself).
Jason Derulo wouldn't had gotten a second number one if it wasn't for BTS and he didn't even thank them that just goes to show you the people just to get there some to be up in the chart. I cant stand Jason Derulo. He's a sorry ass person.
My gripe with this Docu is how he seems dismissive of the old style before HYYH era. The change from agressive hiphop to a more vulnerable image was not just done to get noticed, or to chart more, its also because they were growing up and having different feelings. They were now starting to enter adulthood and all the anxiety that comes with it.
I love how the members are so close have a strong bond. I also love how affectionate they are with each other cause it's unique never happens in America.❤️❤️❤️🥺
a good documentary except when it comes to RM he's not just the first memeber and leader of bts ,used to be a famous undergroud rapper at the age of 14 had a whole following and was feared by grown men who didn't want to battle with him becuz he was that good and not becuz sleepy put in a good word for him, bang bd signed him on the spot when he auditioned and litteraly created bts around him., he's the main songwriter for bts since debut
@@cg558 nah it didn't, all it said about joon was first member, leader got into bh becuz sleepy put in a good word for him which is not true cuz sleepy just directed him to bh to audition. Not sure what docu you watched but his intro was literally that, leader first member 😒
@@mono-mq2ph dude, sleepy got him the audition. That's what "and even put in a good word with one of the producers there" means. It's literally accurate. “I got his phone number, called Big Hit Entertainment, and asked them to take a look. Rap Monster was in his third year of middle school at that time.” ( SBS radio program “2 O’Clock Escape Cultwo Show", September 5, 2017) I agree that they didn't put all his information in the intro part, but rather spread it throughout the doc.
@@mono-mq2ph there's a DOCUMENTED wherein bangpd mentioned RM lyrics that he wrote was impressive so he called the staff to contact RM and in that spot on he signed RM coz he said he doesn't like to waste RM 's talent, about sleepy he saw RM first audition underground he took RM 's telephone number and passed to his friend working as producer at Bighit...the rest is history.
Man the love and respect you group of people have for BTS and us ARMY is just wow... Thank you for everything... I wish ARMY could have more group of reactors like you, genuine and respectful 🙏🙏🙏
I just wanted to clear up one of the few misconceptions that the guide video had - the purpose of dynamite was never to 'dominate' the US market by singing in English. BTS put out that song because they wanted to give people comfort during the pandemic.
Your conversation about musical prejudice and what people think of others based on what music they listen to or write off entire genres of music just because it's not the norm hit me hard to the point where I've got tears rolling down my face. I'm a 37 year old male and super big into gaming and anime so most of my friends are people I talk and play with online. A couple years ago I cut ties with a majority of my friends that I had known for 7+ years because of toxic masculinity and prejudice against kpop and anime. They would constantly look down on them and make comments about me as a person based off some of the music I listen to or what I choose to spend some of my free time doing just because it's not the "popular" or "hard" thing to be into. It was so demoralizing and I never had a release from those feelings I've had inside until just now. Love the way you guys converse about every topic and give an actual opinion even if it might not be popular. Having an opinion and expanding on it is the most important thing to me rather than just writing something off.
Thanks for putting this on TH-cam! Enjoyed the discussion. One thing to keep in mind with how they were formed, which the documentaries don't really talk about... There were apparently many other trainees between 2010 and 2012. It wasn't as though Bighit just picked these 7 guys. Just like any other K pop group, there were a bunch of guys who went through training and development. People left, others were dropped, etc... before these 7 were finalized. I think RM even wanted to quit at one point because he originally thought he'd be in a rap group, not an idol group with dancing. Jin, despite being picked off the street, had to learn singing and dancing and prove himself. And, as they showed, JHope also wanted to leave. It's honestly somewhat a miracle that these 7 different guys ended up in the final group. Any other iteration probably wouldn't have worked as well because each one of them brings something different to the table.
@ redemption 46, Documentary is one of the best and I hope everybody in your crew gets to see this eventually, it’s very well done this documentary!💜 much Love to you all💜🙏🏼
I appreciate that the boys decided to be willing to step outside their comfort zone (rap) to tolerate and give in larger room to other music corporating into their raps. Their songs turned out helping them grow more psychologically mature and giving higher impact to the fandom and the company. Kudo to their CEO.
Thank you to Jerrick for showing appreciaton to Jin at the beginning and thank you guys for the reaction :) this is one of the best if not the best BTS guide currently, the guy on the video is right....what set them apart is they touch other topics never handle by other groups, at least western...in this side of the world the big record companies most of the time manage the artist career and tell them what to sing, how to dress or even behave towards the public etc but with BTS they were lucky enough to be with a company to let them have the artistic freedom they want... some people can say whatever they want about Mr Bang but he saw the potential and allow them to work on their own terms, he really trust on them even from a young age, I remember been fan of Backstreet boys and N'Sync back in the days and I still appreciate them and their music but with BTS was not just the dance coreo or their physical appearance but also about their lyrics, their charisma, their sense of humor and since then I never look back.... I felt so welcome on the fandom and I never felt that before, they're on a league of their own and I don't think another group like them can be replicated.... about what Lou said actually some have tried to replicated them, I remember seen groups in X country releasing songs that are a copycat of a BTS song, I remember once Simon Cowell even mentioned about create a group with the BTS formula kind of (if I am wrong please correct me) but you CAN'T fabricate charisma and talent, you have it or not, period....Borahae guys! 💜
53:53 i disagree, many companies *are* trying to copy bts - they have made up actual teams (no joke) to study the rise and success of bts, producers who collaborate with bts get asked to make songs for these other big companies in kpop just like the ones bts has (sleep deez who worked on my time said he got asked to make a my time esque song by a big kpop company, the butter team said similar things, etc.). an sm group i won't name literally made a song called LIFE IS STILL GOING ON. 😭 and furthermore, some groups like superm were CREATED to emulate what bts has done. yet.. ultimately, no one can really copy bts. that's the reason why you get the feeling no one is copying them. not because they're not trying, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE FAILING. as a producer who worked on butter said, companies have asked them to remake something butter-like for other groups but you just can't do it without the bts flavour, which cannot be forged. only bangtan genuinely can be bangtan.
I remember it was reported in korean media that there was a task force to study the success of bts to see if it could be replicated. I think in 2018? or 2019. Lmao.
@@sissyfart that's what i was talking about, yeah. it was in 2019. i remember laughing like a maniac about it, these people really think fakely manufacturing something genuine can work😭
Exactly, maybe they can copy the songs, the correo, the style..(kPop are full w/ good stuff n also good looking idols) but for sure nobody can copy the personality of these boys as a person n as a group. They are all humble, funny, polite n they care about what's goin on out of their dreamland. Their songs always relate to nowadays life, the hardships young ppl hv to endure.
Loved your discussion as usual 💜 BTS is collabing with Snoop Dogg coming up btw. About Bang pd: he was a songwriter before that's how he earned the name hit man bang because the songs he made would be hits. He worked with JYP he was his freind and they had a fallout thats when he started his own company. He believed in artists writing their own story, when he heard Namjoon rap the first audition he said this kid needs to be listened too and build the group around Joon that's why he is the leader. Age in order Eldest is Jin then suga, Jhope, RM, Jimin,V,Jungkook Honestly about the military, we don't like talking about it much lots of other fans want them because they thinking with bts gone they can get the spotlight. Personally and lots of army wish that they would all go together but we will respect their wishes whatever they decide
I love what Ty(?) said about "evolve or evaporate". While most artists are stuck in a genre - either bc they wanna stay in the comfort zone of their style or afraid they'd lose their fans if they evolve - it's interesting to note that despite all the changes in BTS concepts, image, style of music, and how they hop from one genre to another - the BTS ARMY still very much supports. We are that invested into their music that we still manage to be loyal and devoted to bangtan. Fortunately, the boys make really great music and high quality contents, plus their genuine personality which make it easier for armys to be this devoted and loyal. I didn't like hiphop/rap when I started liking BTS during Wings era but now I do, and I even came to like western rappers because of them (I know african american rappers are the OG when it comes to hiphop culture, it's just that BTS called my attention to it). So I guess, it's still the music, the lyricism and talent in general that pulls us to BTS, regardless of the genre. Once again, it's been a very insightful discussion. Thanks and borahae 💜
I actually feel like 2nd Gen was *MUCH* more diverse in terms of music style and group concepts I feel like most groups nowadays conceptually overlap and the way they produce is all very similar. Even if 2nd Gen was similar to the music coming out of the west, no group was similar. Each group had a unique sound and concept. BTS is a breathe of fresh air in that regard
RM is the 4th oldest. The order according to age: Jin (Dec 1992), Suga (Mar 1993), JHope (Feb 1994), RM (Sep 1994), Jimin (Oct 1995), V (Dec 1995) and JK (Sep 1997). Jin is only 3 months older than Suga.
@@REDEMPTION46 also, not sure you realized it. but there are almost always questions/problems regarding their age in English explanations and subs, since Korean age and international age are figured differently. therefore seeing that JK was born Sept 1, 1997 and that he moved into the dorms on June 4, 2011 - he was 13 years old international at the time, 15 yrs old Korean age as is shown on lots of translation subtitles on interviewss when JK talks about the guys raising him and things like that. (JK said that the number on his Butter placard was the date he moved into the dorm with the guys; so 110604 means June 4, 2011.) international vs korean age at birth intl age = considered 0 years old from birth (start by stating days old, then months old until) Korean age = considered 1 yr old from birth V born Dec 30, 1995 V intl age = 0 on Dec 30, 1995 V Korean age = 1 yr old on Dec 30, 1995 Jungkook born Sept 1, 1997 Jungkook intl age = 0 on Sept 1, 1997 Jungkook Korean age = 1 yr old on Sept 1, 1997 at the new year (Jan 1st) each year intl age = nothing happens Korean age = everyone ages up one year V born Dec 30, 1995 and on New Year's Day Jan 1, 1996 V intl age = 2 days old on Jan 1, 1996 V Korean age = 2 yrs old on Jan 1, 1996 Jungkook born Sept 1, 1997 and on New Year's Day Jan 1, 1998 Jungkook intl age = 4 moths old on Jan 1, 1998 Jungkook Korean age = 2 yrs old on Jan 1, 1998 at your actual date of birth intl age = age up one year Korean age = celebrate your birth day and continue with the age you've been calling yourself since last Jan 1 V born Dec 30, 1995, so on Dec 30, 1996, his birthday (both have celebrations on the actual birthday date) V intl age = 1 yrs old on Dec 30, 1996 V Korean age = 2 yrs old STILL on Dec 30, 1996 Jungkook born Sept 1, 1997, so on Sept 1, 1998 Jungkook intl age = 1 yrs old on Sept 1, 1998 Jungkook Korean age = 2 yrs old on Sept 1, 1998 so, that makes all the videos where they guys talk about their ages when this or that happened a little harder to follow, to make it the international age always subtract at least 1 year, if not 2 depending on when in the year something happened and how that coincides to their actual birth date.
as i love kdramas ever since it came across in my country back in 2000 i was so amazed on how good theyre dramas are made up. then youlle hear kpop but never really get hooked nor makes me put effort to listen because its really is generic repetative until 2013 sept 13 With BTS Song N.O it change everything and up until now i am 35yrs and still keep falling inlove into BTS song over and over and over again
@@REDEMPTION46 plot twist if i rule the world makes me wonder. Ive found BTS by the time i am so down that the whole world crumbling down on me as i become a single mom in one singe blink of an eye.
These guys are so impresive, they have achieved the imposible, a non-english artist conquering the music industry BRAVO 🙌 and shout out to Jin, you have to be super brave to accept the challenge and overcome ir with merits, hard work always brings good results 💪
Great reaction guys I loved the discussion and was glad yall could react to keep going and stay blessed 🙏😊💜 Also guys it was Hope that was going to leave kook cried because he didn't want Hope to leave.
The whole Grammy thing actually when I heard they were nominated I knew they wouldn't win. Why? The "academy" members are current or former members of boards on the biggest global record labels based in America. Long story short they were not getting a piece of their checks. I think recently Colombia records got some distribution rights. And HBO has 5% share in their movie documentary rights streaming world wide. So I feel this year their success with the PTD concerts and singles they have too much likeability and visability and the board members have a piece of the pie. Btw BTS have amercian artists basically working for them as HYBE is now public and each member was given shares so they not only get money from royalties and sponsorships they are the boss now👊🏾
This is part of what makes me upset about their Grammy noms to begin with. The freaking behind the scenes politics and corruption. I don't think it should have been Dynamite that got nominated last year, not in a year where ON, Blackswan and the whole Map of the Soul 7 album were overlooked. It shouldn't have taken an English language track (or gibberish because most of those lyrics) to get them a nomination, especially considering that Dynamite is vastly mediocre compared to their entire discography. But this year Butter. even though a better song, is basically a repeat. BE and Life Goes On deserve more recognition. And also this song does a great job of filling the pockets of the CEO of Columbia records who also co-wrote it. I never liked BTS's relationship with Columbia, because the only time they ever got off their asses to truly promote BTS' music was for their English tracks. I hope their new US distributor does better. Anyway, I would love for BTS to win a Grammy, but I would prefer that Grammy go to them for a song or album that was "from them"... the whole reason many of us fell in love with BTS was their personal connections to the lyrics and theme of the song, and I just feel like Dynamite and Butter are lacking in that area and are just too formulated to get radio play. Sorry my tangent diverted from your original topic, I probably shouldn't feel this passionately about this.
@@jessicapierce3027 I am glad you said it. Alot of the people who wrote butter and dynamite are part of publishing houses in North America. So these songs is getting the back hand push other songs like black swans were supposed to get because again higher stakes for them.i like the songs don't get me wrong however the lyrics are too simple and shallow. This is why, whilst watching the rise of bangtan ARMY truly DEMANDED with mob like tendencies (lol) for BTS music to be played because they are always trying to tell us what kind of music we should like which is mostly trash. I haven't watch the Grammys since 2013 and I haven't taken seriously ( I think two or three years ago I heard Cardi b spread her legs with her ratchet dancers to those in the front row. Yikes!!!) since 1989 ( and I wasn't even born yet at that time lol)
I want them to all go in the service together. We’ll miss them but it’s the shortest time we’ll have to wait for them to be all together again. That’s just me tho.
True, and I hope that if they do all go, then they'll be put in the same unit (or at least will have 1 other member in the same unit) so they'll have each other to look out for (just concerned after hearing what Taemin went through and seeing the horror stories from the D.P. kdrama, tho I know it probably was showing only the most extreme cases).
little facts * in 2019 BTS - BOY WITH LUV broke the record of BLACKPINK ( KILL THIS LOVE 56.7m #12 ) with over 74m (#5) views in 24hrs , then * in 2020 BTS again broke the record held by Blackpink (HOW YOU LIKE THAT 86.3m #3 ) with DYNAMITE , getting over 101.1m (#2) views in first 24hrs and became first ever artist to get 100m views in less than a day * again in 2020 they released LIFE GOES ON and got 71.1m (#9) views in 24hrs * in 2021 may they released BUTTER and broke the record of Dynamite with over 108.2m (#1) views in 24 hrs * in july , they released permission to dance and got 72.3m (#7) in 24 hrs * Out of top 10 most viewed music videos on youtube in first 24 hrs Bts has 5 spots (1,2,5,7,9)
What's up guys? Really appreciate your reactions about the Rise of Bangtan boys. They got a lot story about their early, hope this year Grammy will considered theirs achievements. Btw we don't need Grammy, Grammy need BTS. See u guys at the concert i can't wait. 🙌🙌 Seriously guys their comeback will be the best crazy things ever in this music industry.
Just like what times magazine wrote BTS is limit less when it comes to music. BTS surpass that kpop genre they saying and often they always said they want to do outside of the Box. BTS is the Genre thats the talk
30:24 Suga was actually a hologram in this performance because he had just underwent shoulder surgery. Fun Fact: since he was still recovering from surgery during the holidays,Suga was represented by a snowman, a cardboard cutout of himself, several phone calls, and a smaller photo of himself in RunBTS episodes.
(RM is the fourth oldest ;-) Jin, Suga, J-hope, RM, Jimin, V Jungkook! :-) )What an interesting conversation you had! Uhm... Regarding the discussion about the input of each member in the music, well the rap-line are the main writers for sure, however, the others have their own solo music. As for group songs, we don't actually know, precisely, how the writing process goes. Maybe RM writes the lyrics, but they all confront each other about it. Think about Begin by Jungkook or Stigma by V: both the songs were written by RM but he did so following JK and V ideas. And my best bet would be that, in the same way they consult each other to decide who sings which part in the song, they discuss the lyrics together to be sure if everybody think they reflect properly the idea of the group. Moreover, being part of the group means having different kinds of input, I guess. Maybe RM or Suga or J-hope write the lyrics themself, but they wouldn't be able to do so if, for example, Jin wouldn't support them when they are depressed etc. I guess, what I mean to say is that contributing to something may happen in unexpected but still important ways.
I literally love your videos so much haha, please don't ever stop your debates/discussions at the end - I really enjoy listening to what you guys think :)) I thought that part where you were wondering whether their rookie music was really interesting. I personally believe that the messages of their songs have ALWAYS been authentic, they always spoke their truth and were vocal about things that mattered to them. But I do agree that the style or the aesthetic of the group did not always fit everyone. As you said, Jimin was not exactly the happiest but who comes to mind first is actually Jin. He was supposed to be this quiet and handsome person, the reserved visual. And knowing Jin, this is not him at all lol. Also this Gangsta persona, that was just not him. So I'm really happy to see him now, being the goofy and funny crackhead that he is (while also being 100% professional and skilled). He said that ever since Fire he was able to be more himself. So I think their lyrics and their songs have always been them, but it took them some time to find their style, their vibe and their direction. But they did that on their own and that way, that journey is meaningful as it is. And just like that I believe they'll never stop evolving and growing in new directions and as you guys said, that is such a positive thing!
It’s Jin..Suga RM JHope, Jimin, V,JK.. Hoping that Korea allows BTS for an exemption since they have that cultural merit award!! UGH!! Fingers crossed!
just weeks ago after PTD in seoul was live played in Cinema just in North america BTS gathered big amount of money and top the box office.2nd or 3rd i think. and as Hybe announce theyre earnings they Jump into Trillion gross income BTS giving good numbers of income into SK GDP
I come here agai n again bcz i like ur reaction n discussion about our Bangtan boys👍👍. Well, BTS didn't get the grammy, so what 🤓...to BTS, ARMY is their Award n to Army, BTS is the reward. 👍👍👌👌💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💜💜💜💜💜
I need Suga to do an all piano instrumental album and an all singing album. I need Jin to do an all guitar Acoustic album. I need V to do an all Jazz album. I need J-Hope to do an all singing album. I need Jimin and JK to do an all Christmas album. I eed RM to do an all Instrumental and all singing album.
Note that bang pd was the nex between them but they all had to put their asses to work on thei own to a point where it was literally give up having to go to clubs, dating, and do whatever the shit young pple do everyday in order to achieve a goal toghether, and they didnt do that obligated they decided to work hard, struggle with a lot of shit, and not give up so it takes a lot of resilience to do that and really have the level of integrity, work ethic and all those stuff thats needed to amaze such level of success.
Think of it this way: bang pd got crazy rich and started buying other companies, then in 2021 they decided to organise the chaos and to have HYBE as the joint collective company name, and all the other companies fall underneath that name, and bighit entertainment became bighit music. The companies under HYBE are still separate companies in their own sense, but are run and managed by HYBE. All the companies under HYBE have their own groups assigned to that label, so the groups aren’t family In terms of HYBE bc they still are signed under different companies. Then bang pd also bought Ithaca holdings which is home to artists like Justin bieber, Ariana grande, Demi lovato etc! BTS also became shareholders of the company aswell!! Bang pd sadly stepped down as CEO of HYBE in 2021 because he wants to focus more on his passion which is producing music, but he still remains a chairman at HYBE. Basically HYBE is only HYBE today bc of BTS and bang pd😌
did you guys know that about two weeks ago Jungkook of BTS travel to the United States to Las Vegas by himself for a little vacation alone. the rest of the members will be there for their concert this month the tickets for the concert actually sold out in February. going to be at a football stadium in Vegas or some similar large venue. since there over here they're probably going to make the circuit of morning news shows nighttime talk shows daytime talk shows and of course doing the tourist routine. and of course, last December they had four sold out nights of concerts in Las Angeles with people actually buying tickets and traveling to the United States from 60 countries. because they couldn't have concert in their country. Jimin was in the United States in January or February on vacation and caught COVID-19. since then, several members have also had COVID-19 I believe about two weeks ago that J hope has it. he may not be and Las Vegas for the concert. but then again depends on how long their quarantine period is in Korea.
ENJOYABLE! One of my top commentaries from you guys. THANK YOU! PS: Check out THE RISE OF BANGTAN fan edit documentary series. One of the best, as it uses existing clips allowing first person perspectives.
also , i don't like how he's making it sound like their first albums were all about agressivness, the message was loud and clear it was about the korean school system who was fcked up at the time it was about students and society...., it was about kids having to settle for their parents dreams or what society excpected from them. their change in sound was literaly them growing as artists and talking about subjects that were relatable to them at their age
Lol if that’s what he got from the 1st few albums that’s his opinion 😂 Definitely agree with you on the part about them growing up. They matured and so did the music
@@REDEMPTION46 i know that it's his opinion but that defeats the whole point of a documentary Don't you think? He's doing a docu about their story which means he needs to state facts from the source itself which is bts and how they explained their music.it's not about opinions it's about being objective that's what a docu is, lay facts without involving personal opinions so that people can get informed about them without a biased opinion from the creator.🥰
I AM STILL THANKFUL TO GOD BTS did not let themeselves down after all those hardships theyve faced like who on earth well make teenagers attend a court case just by a mere accusation of sajaegi when darn bitter fans because they can not believe that BTS wins artist and album of the year because the win agains other artist
Some of my thoughts from your discussions: 1. ROCK MUSIC - One of the things you discussed was your different experiences with rock music in your lives. One genre that BTS has little on is rock. There have been rock/metal channels reacting to BTS throughout the years on youtube. One reactor did watch BTS recently with a rock/metal track they were rapping on & he did say that if BTS dropped a future album with just rock/metal, he would go pay all to see/hear it. Imagine that, one community that has not essentially gotten emotionally involved that much with BTS is the rock & metal world. There are a few, not a lot. If BTS does get more into rock/metal, they could potentially garner even more fans from that community, which is still relatively big today globally. It has been said that rock music, in the States, is nearly dead these days, although a lot of rock/metal music from Japan recently is getting attention. Anyway, one notable track that you may want to react to is the song "Classroom Idea", which is a song by Seo Taiji. BTS was a featured artist in one of Taiji's concerts a few years ago & they rapped together on this song in a live performance. I would love to see you react to that one & I can give you a link if you want. 2. SEO TAIJI - Continuing about Taiji, you should try reacting to some of his stuff. If you did not know or have forgotten, he is considered the "Father" of KPop. All of KPop started with him 3 decades ago, which means that if he never came on to the scene, then BTS, Blackpink & all the hundreds of KPop artists in the last 30 years, would not have existed. His main genre is rock & metal, but also includes hiphop, numetal, rap-rock, alternative rock, piano ballads, pop, EDM, symphonic arrangements, etc. There's even one that sounds reggaeton iirc. Out of all the KPop groups, it has been said that Taiji has passed the virtual torch to BTS, approving BTS as his protégé. If you want Taiji song suggestions, please let me know & I will recommend you some. 3. MILITARY SERVICE - You touched on one scenario where BTS could all go to service at the same time. This is possible & it has been talked about. I would think that that would be the best situation for them. Let them do their service together. They don't have to do field work, they could all just work at a military office & then they might also perform for the troops a little, kinda like USO tours in past decades from the States. I believe past KPop boy groups have sort of done that too, i.e. entertaining troops for a bit while in service. They can also VLog during that time, as long as they have permission, so they can keep in contact with ARMY, while in the army, heh. But one serious potential issue that can happen is if war breaks out while the boys are in service & SK could get involved. That means BTS could be in the field, unless the SK government deems them special enough that they stay behind & just be working at HQ. One other thing that is not clear is if the length of the military service (18 month) is included in the boys' new 7-year Hybe contract, but I doubt it, the 18 months service is most likely separate. I haven't looked at how other groups arranged this. Since BTS re-signed for another 7 years with Hybe in 2020, that means they won't really be done by 2027, but rather closer to 2029, only if they have their military service butting in somewhere in that timeframe.
I think they resigned in 2018 and you are correct that the 18 months would not be considered part of their contract period. I also agree with you that ideally 18 months service together would be best. They never asked for exemption and said when the time comes they would serve and Jin’s time is at the end of this year in December when he turns 30! I loved the Seo Taiji 25th anniversary concert which he featured BTS! It’s was an AMAZING concert. Worth watching and the is also a behind the scenes Bangtan with English sub of their practice!
They re-signed in 2018, so their new contract expires in about May 2025. When a man enters military service in SK, any employment contract of theirs "freezes". If they do end up going together (but I still think they have a high chance of exemption), then their contract will be prolonged until about 2027 or different years altogether if they go separately.
Law makers in the Korean parliament (all sides of the political spectrum) have suggested for a new law specifically designed to get BTS exemption from service or having a short service period of basic training or something to be passed, the bill is going to be discussed and voted on soon, so the service topic is on hold/to be looked out for, we don't know how the outcome will be, but it seems like law makers, politicians and authorities in general in Korea are looking to find a way to reward them for elevating the country's reputation as well as a way to preserve the positive economic impact they bring to the country every year, which reached an average of 4.6 billion dollars during each of these past two years.... (Yeah🥴, if my country was lucky enough to have a single art act who caused THAT much revenue for the country every year we'd be constructing freaking monuments for them all over the country ngl 😂)
Oh groups are definitely copying BTS it’s just that they usually wait a year or 2 to do so. I usually don’t hold it against the groups tho bc it’s usually just the company coming to the logical conclusion that whatever BTS does is popular so let’s do it too (the idols themselves don’t have much say). The problem is, with that mindset/model, you’ll never catch up to BTS or become a BTS (trendsetter). I’d much prefer these companies start letting their idols make the kinda music they want (like how BigHit has ALWAYS done with BTS)
And we are still waiting for A NEW ALBUM TO RELEASE......OMG GRAMMY in the next coming days BTS dream of performing on the grammy stage live. and it well happen this 2022.
Yoooooo... you guys mentioned Wisin Y Yandel! Funny enough, that's how I got into K-Pop. I love reggaeton and was in a Wisin Y Yandel rabbit hole on youtube in 2011. One of the thumbnails that popped up was the MV Trouble Maker by Trouble Maker. I was instantly hooked. 2NE1, Super Junior, 4 Minute, etc. I took a break because well, Justin Timberlake, but came back around 2016.
While listening to your discussion on the matter of BTS (documentary) songs, I also love the 'Most Beautiful Life Goes On BTS' - a real story. And I watch BTS 'American Hustle life' I think our BTS learn a lesson from them, especially when they brought BTS gives food to the street/homeless people and these people give advice to BTS. RM/Yoongi?Jhope is smart & full of knowledge in writing songs/lyrics according to the situation, while they are growing up with a lot of criticism & or see/look at the young generation struggle life that clicks to the listeners/fans/Army's. That's why we love BTS!
Wow I watched the whole hour and 40 min video lol… glad I did! I really do enjoy watching y’all’s conversations in regards to music in general. Let alone BTS musicality and growth. As Army we do say they have no genre. They are just a GOOD MUSIC genre. What are y’all’s thoughts on the news of the Snoop/BTS collab? That would be something I’d love to hear y’all converse or debate about. Both good and bad if there is any. Being a fan of both I’ll leave my thoughts until after the release which I feel will be either on their new album or after their album is released. 💜
they didn't mention it exactly in this video but RM actually signed with big hit entertainment in 2009/10. all the other members signed on with big hit between then and 2012. because some of them like J hope needed to learn to rap and sing and Jin needed to learn to dance and sing. they had longer training periods then other members, Jimin having the shortest training.
Based on the stories, Jimin basically had no training at all... He literally was doing it all on his own, with maybe some help from other members if he'd asked.
@ redemption 46 Thank you for the effort put into your videos I always love to hear you guy's opinions and thoughts. If you'd like similar videos like the one you reacted to I highly recommend the channel: bby gang mag Lots of interesting topics are covered over there that make room for discussion. Here are a few vids he covers for examples: BTS vs. K-POP: a video essay BTS: More Than K-Pop Billboard vs. BTS you're wrong about k-pop: a video essay Those are just a few examples and videos I personally enjoy but It'd be interesting to see y'alls opinions on them as well
Thanks for the reaction! Nice to see different content from time to time from bts. I hope you react next time to my recommendation about the rebranding of the company since I think you are all curious. "Hybe: New Brand Presentation"
Theory question: In South Korea, if a male athlete wins an international metal (olympics, world cup) or male classical musician wins an international competition they get a military exemption. My thought is, if BTS wins a Grammy I wonder if they will get a military exemption. I know this year they all filed for, and were granted, a deferment but I think Jin would have to go next year unless they get an exemption
i have less faith in them getting exempted even if they won the grammy now because the new president of sk is a hardcore conservative who is doing a lot of controversial moves in other fields, i would not bet on him giving them the time of day quite frankly.
🤗 *Wow!* That was a Deep 👏👏👏 Conversation! (Me being 70yrs) (Blk-F) From Brick City. Only 1 station played Some Black Music in 50s Then 60s ,Temps/Supremes Etc! 70s/80s Blue Magic/Whispers/Stevie/EW&F 🤗 My Daughter however, Was Madonna, Queen, George.M, ABBA
There have been videos where Bang PD explains more of his philosophy and how he approached things with BTS. I will see if I can track that down for you all. See links in replies
I think this is a really good one that has a mix of Bang PD, BTS, and experts talking about their road to success. The show they are on is called Good Insights th-cam.com/video/MNVYZMC8UQ0/w-d-xo.html
Jin and jimin may not have had vocal training or entered singing competitions like jk , their audition for bighit included singing .. after jin sang , was he asked to be a trainee for the bts group cause it was clear he had potential .. jhope can sing aswell .
please react to bts hardships 2013 - 2021 by xceleste and bbygangmags videos on bts and kpop theyre much better than the asian theory's videos he gets many things wrong and his description of american hustle life is annoying its really not bad of a show and bts learned a lot from it. also the way he makes it seem like pre i need you were fake is also annoying cause bts has been writing their own music since predebut all of their music is their real selves its just the visual aspect of the music videos that were a little much but the albums, lyrics and songs themselves were always them they didnt just start being themselves with i need you. idk i dont like the way he speaks on certain things even though many of his stats are correct ill give him that but like when it comes to describing their history id go with xceleste and bbygangmag more. also bbygangmag goes deeper into kpop as a whole as well similar to the dkdktv kpop explained but better tbh. more in depth on topics and how media in english portrays kpop. please react to them :)
You're right. It was Jason Derulo's 2nd #1 on Hot100 but his last one was about 10-15 years ago. Savage Love peaked at #8 on hot100, but when he did the remix with BTS members it went straight to #1 (but he never gave BTS the probs and took the credit for himself).
Thought so
Well, he did only after all the backlash.
Jason Derulo wouldn't had gotten a second number one if it wasn't for BTS and he didn't even thank them that just goes to show you the people just to get there some to be up in the chart. I cant stand Jason Derulo. He's a sorry ass person.
My gripe with this Docu is how he seems dismissive of the old style before HYYH era. The change from agressive hiphop to a more vulnerable image was not just done to get noticed, or to chart more, its also because they were growing up and having different feelings. They were now starting to enter adulthood and all the anxiety that comes with it.
I get it.. I enjoy their old sound
I love how the members are so close have a strong bond. I also love how affectionate they are with each other cause it's unique never happens in America.❤️❤️❤️🥺
a good documentary except when it comes to RM he's not just the first memeber and leader of bts ,used to be a famous undergroud rapper at the age of 14 had a whole following and was feared by grown men who didn't want to battle with him becuz he was that good and not becuz sleepy put in a good word for him, bang bd signed him on the spot when he auditioned and litteraly created bts around him., he's the main songwriter for bts since debut
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The documentary said all of that. Not sure what you watched
@@cg558 nah it didn't, all it said about joon was first member, leader got into bh becuz sleepy put in a good word for him which is not true cuz sleepy just directed him to bh to audition.
Not sure what docu you watched but his intro was literally that, leader first member 😒
@@mono-mq2ph dude, sleepy got him the audition. That's what "and even put in a good word with one of the producers there" means. It's literally accurate. “I got his phone number, called Big Hit Entertainment, and asked them to take a look. Rap Monster was in his third year of middle school at that time.” ( SBS radio program “2 O’Clock Escape Cultwo Show", September 5, 2017)
I agree that they didn't put all his information in the intro part, but rather spread it throughout the doc.
@@mono-mq2ph there's a DOCUMENTED wherein bangpd mentioned RM lyrics that he wrote was impressive so he called the staff to contact RM and in that spot on he signed RM coz he said he doesn't like to waste RM 's talent, about sleepy he saw RM first audition underground he took RM 's telephone number and passed to his friend working as producer at Bighit...the rest is history.
Man the love and respect you group of people have for BTS and us ARMY is just wow... Thank you for everything... I wish ARMY could have more group of reactors like you, genuine and respectful 🙏🙏🙏
I love how they are so humble and they are still themselves and don't let fame get to their head.❤️❤️❤️🥺
I just wanted to clear up one of the few misconceptions that the guide video had - the purpose of dynamite was never to 'dominate' the US market by singing in English. BTS put out that song because they wanted to give people comfort during the pandemic.
Yeah we understand that.. we took that comment at face value
Your conversation about musical prejudice and what people think of others based on what music they listen to or write off entire genres of music just because it's not the norm hit me hard to the point where I've got tears rolling down my face. I'm a 37 year old male and super big into gaming and anime so most of my friends are people I talk and play with online. A couple years ago I cut ties with a majority of my friends that I had known for 7+ years because of toxic masculinity and prejudice against kpop and anime. They would constantly look down on them and make comments about me as a person based off some of the music I listen to or what I choose to spend some of my free time doing just because it's not the "popular" or "hard" thing to be into. It was so demoralizing and I never had a release from those feelings I've had inside until just now.
Love the way you guys converse about every topic and give an actual opinion even if it might not be popular. Having an opinion and expanding on it is the most important thing to me rather than just writing something off.
Thank you so much.. your comment means a lot to me 💜
Thanks for putting this on TH-cam! Enjoyed the discussion. One thing to keep in mind with how they were formed, which the documentaries don't really talk about... There were apparently many other trainees between 2010 and 2012. It wasn't as though Bighit just picked these 7 guys. Just like any other K pop group, there were a bunch of guys who went through training and development. People left, others were dropped, etc... before these 7 were finalized. I think RM even wanted to quit at one point because he originally thought he'd be in a rap group, not an idol group with dancing. Jin, despite being picked off the street, had to learn singing and dancing and prove himself. And, as they showed, JHope also wanted to leave. It's honestly somewhat a miracle that these 7 different guys ended up in the final group. Any other iteration probably wouldn't have worked as well because each one of them brings something different to the table.
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@ redemption 46, Documentary is one of the best and I hope everybody in your crew gets to see this eventually, it’s very well done this documentary!💜 much Love to you all💜🙏🏼
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I appreciate that the boys decided to be willing to step outside their comfort zone (rap) to tolerate and give in larger room to other music corporating into their raps. Their songs turned out helping them grow more psychologically mature and giving higher impact to the fandom and the company. Kudo to their CEO.
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Thank you to Jerrick for showing appreciaton to Jin at the beginning and thank you guys for the reaction :) this is one of the best if not the best BTS guide currently, the guy on the video is right....what set them apart is they touch other topics never handle by other groups, at least western...in this side of the world the big record companies most of the time manage the artist career and tell them what to sing, how to dress or even behave towards the public etc but with BTS they were lucky enough to be with a company to let them have the artistic freedom they want... some people can say whatever they want about Mr Bang but he saw the potential and allow them to work on their own terms, he really trust on them even from a young age, I remember been fan of Backstreet boys and N'Sync back in the days and I still appreciate them and their music but with BTS was not just the dance coreo or their physical appearance but also about their lyrics, their charisma, their sense of humor and since then I never look back.... I felt so welcome on the fandom and I never felt that before, they're on a league of their own and I don't think another group like them can be replicated.... about what Lou said actually some have tried to replicated them, I remember seen groups in X country releasing songs that are a copycat of a BTS song, I remember once Simon Cowell even mentioned about create a group with the BTS formula kind of (if I am wrong please correct me) but you CAN'T fabricate charisma and talent, you have it or not, period....Borahae guys! 💜
Thank you so much for all the information and the support 💜
All true, Simon did say that..
@@sam693691 thank you, I wasn't sure hehe.
Yes. Art can not be copied.
So true
Yay thank you for the reaction!! We really appreciate the time and effort you guys put into these videos!
Thank you so much.. I be so tired and these comments give me strength
53:53 i disagree, many companies *are* trying to copy bts - they have made up actual teams (no joke) to study the rise and success of bts, producers who collaborate with bts get asked to make songs for these other big companies in kpop just like the ones bts has (sleep deez who worked on my time said he got asked to make a my time esque song by a big kpop company, the butter team said similar things, etc.). an sm group i won't name literally made a song called LIFE IS STILL GOING ON. 😭 and furthermore, some groups like superm were CREATED to emulate what bts has done. yet.. ultimately, no one can really copy bts. that's the reason why you get the feeling no one is copying them. not because they're not trying, BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE FAILING. as a producer who worked on butter said, companies have asked them to remake something butter-like for other groups but you just can't do it without the bts flavour, which cannot be forged. only bangtan genuinely can be bangtan.
I remember it was reported in korean media that there was a task force to study the success of bts to see if it could be replicated. I think in 2018? or 2019. Lmao.
@@sissyfart that's what i was talking about, yeah. it was in 2019. i remember laughing like a maniac about it, these people really think fakely manufacturing something genuine can work😭
Obviously people will copy them but we see a lot of groups with their own sound. It’s better for them to do their own thing; no one can be BTS 😂😂
Exactly, maybe they can copy the songs, the correo, the style..(kPop are full w/ good stuff n also good looking idols) but for sure nobody can copy the personality of these boys as a person n as a group. They are all humble, funny, polite n they care about what's goin on out of their dreamland. Their songs always relate to nowadays life, the hardships young ppl hv to endure.
Imagine just casually walking down the street one day and then end up the biggest Artist in the world. Only Jin can relate 😭😭😭😭😭🥲
Right lol
This is what we wanted! Thanks for the reaction!🙏
No problem 💜
Loved your discussion as usual 💜
BTS is collabing with Snoop Dogg coming up btw.
About Bang pd: he was a songwriter before that's how he earned the name hit man bang because the songs he made would be hits. He worked with JYP he was his freind and they had a fallout thats when he started his own company. He believed in artists writing their own story, when he heard Namjoon rap the first audition he said this kid needs to be listened too and build the group around Joon that's why he is the leader.
Age in order
Eldest is Jin then suga, Jhope, RM, Jimin,V,Jungkook
Honestly about the military, we don't like talking about it much lots of other fans want them because they thinking with bts gone they can get the spotlight. Personally and lots of army wish that they would all go together but we will respect their wishes whatever they decide
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Thankyou so much for uploading it on TH-cam. We all really appreciate it. BORAHAE 💜💜💜
Thank you 💜
I love what Ty(?) said about "evolve or evaporate". While most artists are stuck in a genre - either bc they wanna stay in the comfort zone of their style or afraid they'd lose their fans if they evolve - it's interesting to note that despite all the changes in BTS concepts, image, style of music, and how they hop from one genre to another - the BTS ARMY still very much supports. We are that invested into their music that we still manage to be loyal and devoted to bangtan. Fortunately, the boys make really great music and high quality contents, plus their genuine personality which make it easier for armys to be this devoted and loyal. I didn't like hiphop/rap when I started liking BTS during Wings era but now I do, and I even came to like western rappers because of them (I know african american rappers are the OG when it comes to hiphop culture, it's just that BTS called my attention to it). So I guess, it's still the music, the lyricism and talent in general that pulls us to BTS, regardless of the genre.
Once again, it's been a very insightful discussion. Thanks and borahae 💜
Thank You Bang Shi Yuk for giving BTS member freedom and artistry of theyre own
Yup
I actually feel like 2nd Gen was *MUCH* more diverse in terms of music style and group concepts
I feel like most groups nowadays conceptually overlap and the way they produce is all very similar. Even if 2nd Gen was similar to the music coming out of the west, no group was similar. Each group had a unique sound and concept. BTS is a breathe of fresh air in that regard
I respect that
RM is the 4th oldest. The order according to age: Jin (Dec 1992), Suga (Mar 1993), JHope (Feb 1994), RM (Sep 1994), Jimin (Oct 1995), V (Dec 1995) and JK (Sep 1997). Jin is only 3 months older than Suga.
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@@REDEMPTION46 also, not sure you realized it. but there are almost always questions/problems regarding their age in English explanations and subs, since Korean age and international age are figured differently.
therefore seeing that JK was born Sept 1, 1997 and that he moved into the dorms on June 4, 2011 - he was 13 years old international at the time, 15 yrs old Korean age as is shown on lots of translation subtitles on interviewss when JK talks about the guys raising him and things like that. (JK said that the number on his Butter placard was the date he moved into the dorm with the guys; so 110604 means June 4, 2011.)
international vs korean age
at birth
intl age = considered 0 years old from birth (start by stating days old, then months old until)
Korean age = considered 1 yr old from birth
V born Dec 30, 1995
V intl age = 0 on Dec 30, 1995
V Korean age = 1 yr old on Dec 30, 1995
Jungkook born Sept 1, 1997
Jungkook intl age = 0 on Sept 1, 1997
Jungkook Korean age = 1 yr old on Sept 1, 1997
at the new year (Jan 1st) each year
intl age = nothing happens
Korean age = everyone ages up one year
V born Dec 30, 1995 and on New Year's Day Jan 1, 1996
V intl age = 2 days old on Jan 1, 1996
V Korean age = 2 yrs old on Jan 1, 1996
Jungkook born Sept 1, 1997 and on New Year's Day Jan 1, 1998
Jungkook intl age = 4 moths old on Jan 1, 1998
Jungkook Korean age = 2 yrs old on Jan 1, 1998
at your actual date of birth
intl age = age up one year
Korean age = celebrate your birth day and continue with the age you've been calling yourself since last Jan 1
V born Dec 30, 1995, so on Dec 30, 1996, his birthday (both have celebrations on the actual birthday date)
V intl age = 1 yrs old on Dec 30, 1996
V Korean age = 2 yrs old STILL on Dec 30, 1996
Jungkook born Sept 1, 1997, so on Sept 1, 1998
Jungkook intl age = 1 yrs old on Sept 1, 1998
Jungkook Korean age = 2 yrs old on Sept 1, 1998
so, that makes all the videos where they guys talk about their ages when this or that happened a little harder to follow, to make it the international age always subtract at least 1 year, if not 2 depending on when in the year something happened and how that coincides to their actual birth date.
as i love kdramas ever since it came across in my country back in 2000 i was so amazed on how good theyre dramas are made up. then youlle hear kpop but never really get hooked nor makes me put effort to listen because its really is generic repetative until 2013 sept 13 With BTS Song N.O it change everything
and up until now i am 35yrs and still keep falling inlove into BTS song over and over and over again
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@@REDEMPTION46 plot twist if i rule the world makes me wonder.
Ive found BTS by the time i am so down that the whole world crumbling down on me as i become a single mom in one singe blink of an eye.
This just made it to my top favorite reaction of you. Thank you.
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These guys are so impresive, they have achieved the imposible, a non-english artist conquering the music industry BRAVO 🙌 and shout out to Jin, you have to be super brave to accept the challenge and overcome ir with merits, hard work always brings good results 💪
Hard work pays off 🔥🔥
Great reaction guys I loved the discussion and was glad yall could react to keep going and stay blessed 🙏😊💜 Also guys it was Hope that was going to leave kook cried because he didn't want Hope to leave.
Thanks Lexi 🧡💜
The whole Grammy thing actually when I heard they were nominated I knew they wouldn't win. Why? The "academy" members are current or former members of boards on the biggest global record labels based in America. Long story short they were not getting a piece of their checks. I think recently Colombia records got some distribution rights. And HBO has 5% share in their movie documentary rights streaming world wide. So I feel this year their success with the PTD concerts and singles they have too much likeability and visability and the board members have a piece of the pie. Btw BTS have amercian artists basically working for them as HYBE is now public and each member was given shares so they not only get money from royalties and sponsorships they are the boss now👊🏾
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aren't their distribution rights transferred to umg now, not columbia anymore?
This is part of what makes me upset about their Grammy noms to begin with. The freaking behind the scenes politics and corruption. I don't think it should have been Dynamite that got nominated last year, not in a year where ON, Blackswan and the whole Map of the Soul 7 album were overlooked. It shouldn't have taken an English language track (or gibberish because most of those lyrics) to get them a nomination, especially considering that Dynamite is vastly mediocre compared to their entire discography. But this year Butter. even though a better song, is basically a repeat. BE and Life Goes On deserve more recognition. And also this song does a great job of filling the pockets of the CEO of Columbia records who also co-wrote it. I never liked BTS's relationship with Columbia, because the only time they ever got off their asses to truly promote BTS' music was for their English tracks. I hope their new US distributor does better.
Anyway, I would love for BTS to win a Grammy, but I would prefer that Grammy go to them for a song or album that was "from them"... the whole reason many of us fell in love with BTS was their personal connections to the lyrics and theme of the song, and I just feel like Dynamite and Butter are lacking in that area and are just too formulated to get radio play.
Sorry my tangent diverted from your original topic, I probably shouldn't feel this passionately about this.
@@forg_tful. I am not too sure but still now the western market holders have a share of BTS money so they will give their awards smh
@@jessicapierce3027 I am glad you said it. Alot of the people who wrote butter and dynamite are part of publishing houses in North America. So these songs is getting the back hand push other songs like black swans were supposed to get because again higher stakes for them.i like the songs don't get me wrong however the lyrics are too simple and shallow. This is why, whilst watching the rise of bangtan ARMY truly DEMANDED with mob like tendencies (lol) for BTS music to be played because they are always trying to tell us what kind of music we should like which is mostly trash. I haven't watch the Grammys since 2013 and I haven't taken seriously ( I think two or three years ago I heard Cardi b spread her legs with her ratchet dancers to those in the front row. Yikes!!!) since 1989 ( and I wasn't even born yet at that time lol)
Thank you for this video 💜They really deserve win Grammy! 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜 BTS AND ARMY ARE BULLETPROOF TOGETHER FOREVER ♾️
They really do 💜
Yaall i just know BTS reactions just bring out the best convos with yall so keep the amazing vibe bcs i am so here for tha shit
I just wanna say, Hitman Bang must have some magical powers or something 😂
Facts lol
I really am thankful That you guys always talk it out into discussion after the reaction. Its really nice discussion all the time
We try are best 💜
thank you for the reaction..it was perfect discussion✨💜
Thanks for the love 🙏🏽
100% with my boy Nick. Don’t bring up any other names when we talking about these 7 grown men. Ain’t no competition 🥰
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@@REDEMPTION46 ya better not stop recording these reactions. Ya be making my day!
Thank you for the time and effort you put into your content! 💜 I really appreciate it!
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hoseok is such an underrated vocalist his singing and his adlibs are to die for
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I want them to all go in the service together. We’ll miss them but it’s the shortest time we’ll have to wait for them to be all together again. That’s just me tho.
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True, and I hope that if they do all go, then they'll be put in the same unit (or at least will have 1 other member in the same unit) so they'll have each other to look out for (just concerned after hearing what Taemin went through and seeing the horror stories from the D.P. kdrama, tho I know it probably was showing only the most extreme cases).
The guy in the red sweatshirt is right about the difference in kpop generations!!
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Love your conversations! 💜 Thank you for your reaction.
No thank you for the love and support
little facts
* in 2019 BTS - BOY WITH LUV broke the record of BLACKPINK ( KILL THIS LOVE 56.7m #12 ) with over 74m (#5) views in 24hrs , then
* in 2020 BTS again broke the record held by Blackpink (HOW YOU LIKE THAT 86.3m #3 ) with DYNAMITE , getting over 101.1m (#2) views in first 24hrs and became first ever artist to get 100m views in less than a day
* again in 2020 they released LIFE GOES ON and got 71.1m (#9) views in 24hrs
* in 2021 may they released BUTTER and broke the record of Dynamite with over 108.2m (#1) views in 24 hrs
* in july , they released permission to dance and got 72.3m (#7) in 24 hrs
* Out of top 10 most viewed music videos on youtube in first 24 hrs Bts has 5 spots (1,2,5,7,9)
What's up guys? Really appreciate your reactions about the Rise of Bangtan boys. They got a lot story about their early, hope this year Grammy will considered theirs achievements. Btw we don't need Grammy, Grammy need BTS. See u guys at the concert i can't wait. 🙌🙌 Seriously guys their comeback will be the best crazy things ever in this music industry.
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I don’t really have anything to comment but I want to let you guys know that I love the reaction and discussion 💜💜
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I really appreciate this reaction I enjoyed this guide alot 💜
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Just like what times magazine wrote BTS is limit less when it comes to music.
BTS surpass that kpop genre they saying and often they always said they want to do outside of the Box.
BTS is the Genre thats the talk
30:24 Suga was actually a hologram in this performance because he had just underwent shoulder surgery. Fun Fact: since he was still recovering from surgery during the holidays,Suga was represented by a snowman, a cardboard cutout of himself, several phone calls, and a smaller photo of himself in RunBTS episodes.
(RM is the fourth oldest ;-) Jin, Suga, J-hope, RM, Jimin, V Jungkook! :-) )What an interesting conversation you had! Uhm... Regarding the discussion about the input of each member in the music, well the rap-line are the main writers for sure, however, the others have their own solo music. As for group songs, we don't actually know, precisely, how the writing process goes. Maybe RM writes the lyrics, but they all confront each other about it. Think about Begin by Jungkook or Stigma by V: both the songs were written by RM but he did so following JK and V ideas. And my best bet would be that, in the same way they consult each other to decide who sings which part in the song, they discuss the lyrics together to be sure if everybody think they reflect properly the idea of the group. Moreover, being part of the group means having different kinds of input, I guess. Maybe RM or Suga or J-hope write the lyrics themself, but they wouldn't be able to do so if, for example, Jin wouldn't support them when they are depressed etc. I guess, what I mean to say is that contributing to something may happen in unexpected but still important ways.
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its really exciting to finish the whole reactions video and watch you guys shares your thoughts about this beautiful reaction videos
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I literally love your videos so much haha, please don't ever stop your debates/discussions at the end - I really enjoy listening to what you guys think :)) I thought that part where you were wondering whether their rookie music was really interesting. I personally believe that the messages of their songs have ALWAYS been authentic, they always spoke their truth and were vocal about things that mattered to them. But I do agree that the style or the aesthetic of the group did not always fit everyone. As you said, Jimin was not exactly the happiest but who comes to mind first is actually Jin. He was supposed to be this quiet and handsome person, the reserved visual. And knowing Jin, this is not him at all lol. Also this Gangsta persona, that was just not him. So I'm really happy to see him now, being the goofy and funny crackhead that he is (while also being 100% professional and skilled). He said that ever since Fire he was able to be more himself. So I think their lyrics and their songs have always been them, but it took them some time to find their style, their vibe and their direction. But they did that on their own and that way, that journey is meaningful as it is. And just like that I believe they'll never stop evolving and growing in new directions and as you guys said, that is such a positive thing!
Thank you so much for this.. we try are best to ask questions and have talks that other reactors aren’t 💜
This documentary is amazing 👏💜💜💜❤❤❤
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I REALLY hope you continue down the rabbit hole & start the storyline
Redemption 46 always drops facts with every discussions specially today
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I really love your reaction/ conversation. 💜
I love this video so much and the ending discussion was perfect 👌 💯💜💜💜💜
Thank you for the love and support
It’s Jin..Suga RM JHope, Jimin, V,JK.. Hoping that Korea allows BTS for an exemption since they have that cultural merit award!! UGH!! Fingers crossed!
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Jhope is before rm
rm is the youngest out of the hyung line. hoseok comes first
No jhope is older than RM
just weeks ago after PTD in seoul was live played in Cinema just in North america BTS gathered big amount of money and top the box office.2nd or 3rd i think.
and as Hybe announce theyre earnings
they Jump into Trillion gross income BTS giving good numbers of income into SK GDP
I come here agai n again bcz i like ur reaction n discussion about our Bangtan boys👍👍. Well, BTS didn't get the grammy, so what 🤓...to BTS, ARMY is their Award n to Army, BTS is the reward. 👍👍👌👌💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💜💜💜💜💜
MOTS: 7 is one of the best albums ever made, argue with yo mama🤪🔥🔥🔥
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First time here and I have to say you fellas really delve deep into this and I like it!!!
Loved this discussion
Thank you
"This will never see the light of day on youtube"... Uhhhhh lol
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@@REDEMPTION46 Thanks for all the hard work! We appreciate you.
I need Suga to do an all piano instrumental album and an all singing album. I need Jin to do an all guitar Acoustic album. I need V to do an all Jazz album. I need J-Hope to do an all singing album. I need Jimin and JK to do an all Christmas album. I eed RM to do an all Instrumental and all singing album.
Note that bang pd was the nex between them but they all had to put their asses to work on thei own to a point where it was literally give up having to go to clubs, dating, and do whatever the shit young pple do everyday in order to achieve a goal toghether, and they didnt do that obligated they decided to work hard, struggle with a lot of shit, and not give up so it takes a lot of resilience to do that and really have the level of integrity, work ethic and all those stuff thats needed to amaze such level of success.
Think of it this way: bang pd got crazy rich and started buying other companies, then in 2021 they decided to organise the chaos and to have HYBE as the joint collective company name, and all the other companies fall underneath that name, and bighit entertainment became bighit music. The companies under HYBE are still separate companies in their own sense, but are run and managed by HYBE. All the companies under HYBE have their own groups assigned to that label, so the groups aren’t family In terms of HYBE bc they still are signed under different companies. Then bang pd also bought Ithaca holdings which is home to artists like Justin bieber, Ariana grande, Demi lovato etc!
BTS also became shareholders of the company aswell!! Bang pd sadly stepped down as CEO of HYBE in 2021 because he wants to focus more on his passion which is producing music, but he still remains a chairman at HYBE.
Basically HYBE is only HYBE today bc of BTS and bang pd😌
did you guys know that about two weeks ago Jungkook of BTS travel to the United States to Las Vegas by himself for a little vacation alone. the rest of the members will be there for their concert this month the tickets for the concert actually sold out in February. going to be at a football stadium in Vegas or some similar large venue. since there over here they're probably going to make the circuit of morning news shows nighttime talk shows daytime talk shows and of course doing the tourist routine. and of course, last December they had four sold out nights of concerts in Las Angeles with people actually buying tickets and traveling to the United States from 60 countries. because they couldn't have concert in their country. Jimin was in the United States in January or February on vacation and caught COVID-19. since then, several members have also had COVID-19 I believe about two weeks ago that J hope has it. he may not be and Las Vegas for the concert. but then again depends on how long their quarantine period is in Korea.
Please, give me more discussions. Y'all always have interesting things to add to the conversation. I thank you!
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One of my top commentaries from you guys.
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PS: Check out THE RISE OF BANGTAN fan edit documentary series. One of the best, as it uses existing clips allowing first person perspectives.
Thank you so much for the love and support 💜
also , i don't like how he's making it sound like their first albums were all about agressivness, the message was loud and clear it was about the korean school system who was fcked up at the time it was about students and society...., it was about kids having to settle for their parents dreams or what society excpected from them.
their change in sound was literaly them growing as artists and talking about subjects that were relatable to them at their age
Lol if that’s what he got from the 1st few albums that’s his opinion 😂
Definitely agree with you on the part about them growing up. They matured and so did the music
@@REDEMPTION46 i know that it's his opinion but that defeats the whole point of a documentary Don't you think? He's doing a docu about their story which means he needs to state facts from the source itself which is bts and how they explained their music.it's not about opinions it's about being objective that's what a docu is, lay facts without involving personal opinions so that people can get informed about them without a biased opinion from the creator.🥰
"Yall out here tryna make waves, BTS are literally the tsunami"
I AM STILL THANKFUL TO GOD BTS did not let themeselves down after all those hardships theyve faced like who on earth well make teenagers attend a court case just by a mere accusation of sajaegi when darn bitter fans because they can not believe that BTS wins artist and album of the year because the win agains other artist
Some of my thoughts from your discussions:
1. ROCK MUSIC - One of the things you discussed was your different experiences with rock music in your lives. One genre that BTS has little on is rock. There have been rock/metal channels reacting to BTS throughout the years on youtube. One reactor did watch BTS recently with a rock/metal track they were rapping on & he did say that if BTS dropped a future album with just rock/metal, he would go pay all to see/hear it. Imagine that, one community that has not essentially gotten emotionally involved that much with BTS is the rock & metal world. There are a few, not a lot. If BTS does get more into rock/metal, they could potentially garner even more fans from that community, which is still relatively big today globally. It has been said that rock music, in the States, is nearly dead these days, although a lot of rock/metal music from Japan recently is getting attention. Anyway, one notable track that you may want to react to is the song "Classroom Idea", which is a song by Seo Taiji. BTS was a featured artist in one of Taiji's concerts a few years ago & they rapped together on this song in a live performance. I would love to see you react to that one & I can give you a link if you want.
2. SEO TAIJI - Continuing about Taiji, you should try reacting to some of his stuff. If you did not know or have forgotten, he is considered the "Father" of KPop. All of KPop started with him 3 decades ago, which means that if he never came on to the scene, then BTS, Blackpink & all the hundreds of KPop artists in the last 30 years, would not have existed. His main genre is rock & metal, but also includes hiphop, numetal, rap-rock, alternative rock, piano ballads, pop, EDM, symphonic arrangements, etc. There's even one that sounds reggaeton iirc. Out of all the KPop groups, it has been said that Taiji has passed the virtual torch to BTS, approving BTS as his protégé. If you want Taiji song suggestions, please let me know & I will recommend you some.
3. MILITARY SERVICE - You touched on one scenario where BTS could all go to service at the same time. This is possible & it has been talked about. I would think that that would be the best situation for them. Let them do their service together. They don't have to do field work, they could all just work at a military office & then they might also perform for the troops a little, kinda like USO tours in past decades from the States. I believe past KPop boy groups have sort of done that too, i.e. entertaining troops for a bit while in service. They can also VLog during that time, as long as they have permission, so they can keep in contact with ARMY, while in the army, heh. But one serious potential issue that can happen is if war breaks out while the boys are in service & SK could get involved. That means BTS could be in the field, unless the SK government deems them special enough that they stay behind & just be working at HQ. One other thing that is not clear is if the length of the military service (18 month) is included in the boys' new 7-year Hybe contract, but I doubt it, the 18 months service is most likely separate. I haven't looked at how other groups arranged this. Since BTS re-signed for another 7 years with Hybe in 2020, that means they won't really be done by 2027, but rather closer to 2029, only if they have their military service butting in somewhere in that timeframe.
I think they resigned in 2018 and you are correct that the 18 months would not be considered part of their contract period. I also agree with you that ideally 18 months service together would be best. They never asked for exemption and said when the time comes they would serve and Jin’s time is at the end of this year in December when he turns 30!
I loved the Seo Taiji 25th anniversary concert which he featured BTS! It’s was an AMAZING concert. Worth watching and the is also a behind the scenes Bangtan with English sub of their practice!
They re-signed in 2018, so their new contract expires in about May 2025. When a man enters military service in SK, any employment contract of theirs "freezes". If they do end up going together (but I still think they have a high chance of exemption), then their contract will be prolonged until about 2027 or different years altogether if they go separately.
Thank you for this, also bts is a 3rd generation group. I really hope they win this time at the Grammys, they'll be performing too❤
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Law makers in the Korean parliament (all sides of the political spectrum) have suggested for a new law specifically designed to get BTS exemption from service or having a short service period of basic training or something to be passed, the bill is going to be discussed and voted on soon, so the service topic is on hold/to be looked out for, we don't know how the outcome will be, but it seems like law makers, politicians and authorities in general in Korea are looking to find a way to reward them for elevating the country's reputation as well as a way to preserve the positive economic impact they bring to the country every year, which reached an average of 4.6 billion dollars during each of these past two years.... (Yeah🥴, if my country was lucky enough to have a single art act who caused THAT much revenue for the country every year we'd be constructing freaking monuments for them all over the country ngl 😂)
you guys should react to ''the rise of bangtan''. its explaining very well their journey!!
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I never click this fast in my life. 😂
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Oh groups are definitely copying BTS it’s just that they usually wait a year or 2 to do so. I usually don’t hold it against the groups tho bc it’s usually just the company coming to the logical conclusion that whatever BTS does is popular so let’s do it too (the idols themselves don’t have much say).
The problem is, with that mindset/model, you’ll never catch up to BTS or become a BTS (trendsetter). I’d much prefer these companies start letting their idols make the kinda music they want (like how BigHit has ALWAYS done with BTS)
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And we are still waiting for A NEW ALBUM TO RELEASE......OMG
GRAMMY in the next coming days BTS dream of performing on the grammy stage live. and it well happen this 2022.
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If you haven't already you guys should watch the rise of bangtan series. Its amazing and goes into much more detail
Yoooooo... you guys mentioned Wisin Y Yandel! Funny enough, that's how I got into K-Pop. I love reggaeton and was in a Wisin Y Yandel rabbit hole on youtube in 2011. One of the thumbnails that popped up was the MV Trouble Maker by Trouble Maker. I was instantly hooked. 2NE1, Super Junior, 4 Minute, etc. I took a break because well, Justin Timberlake, but came back around 2016.
While listening to your discussion on the matter of BTS (documentary) songs, I also
love the 'Most Beautiful Life Goes On BTS' - a real story. And I watch BTS 'American
Hustle life' I think our BTS learn a lesson from them, especially when they brought
BTS gives food to the street/homeless people and these people give advice to BTS.
RM/Yoongi?Jhope is smart & full of knowledge in writing songs/lyrics according to
the situation, while they are growing up with a lot of criticism & or see/look at the young generation struggle life that clicks to the listeners/fans/Army's. That's why we love BTS!
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@@REDEMPTION46 pls watch The rise of bangtan docu-series chapter 1-21
Or pls watch American hustle life
In my opinion all 7 should go one time.. They come back and do a world tour
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BTS in LV soon you guys gonna experience the purple blooded family
Como dizia o pensador contemporânio Rap Monster na obra Do You "I'm not pop, I'm not rock, I'm not funk, I'm not R&B or hiphop"
When it comes to jin and hobi it amazes me that hobi could have been in Got7 and Jin in Exo if fate align that way.
That may have been true if Hobi auditioned for JYP, which he never did.
Hobi was never in JYP lol that was something that was made up
Great discussion.
Thank you
Wow I watched the whole hour and 40 min video lol… glad I did! I really do enjoy watching y’all’s conversations in regards to music in general. Let alone BTS musicality and growth. As Army we do say they have no genre. They are just a GOOD MUSIC genre.
What are y’all’s thoughts on the news of the Snoop/BTS collab? That would be something I’d love to hear y’all converse or debate about. Both good and bad if there is any. Being a fan of both I’ll leave my thoughts until after the release which I feel will be either on their new album or after their album is released. 💜
I wanna hear it 💜
ohhh shit- this doc i'll watch
More coming
they didn't mention it exactly in this video but RM actually signed with big hit entertainment in 2009/10. all the other members signed on with big hit between then and 2012. because some of them like J hope needed to learn to rap and sing and Jin needed to learn to dance and sing. they had longer training periods then other members, Jimin having the shortest training.
Based on the stories, Jimin basically had no training at all... He literally was doing it all on his own, with maybe some help from other members if he'd asked.
Aaaaah I miss the teacher! 💜
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@ redemption 46 Thank you for the effort put into your videos I always love to hear you guy's opinions and thoughts. If you'd like similar videos like the one you reacted to I highly recommend the channel: bby gang mag
Lots of interesting topics are covered over there that make room for discussion. Here are a few vids he covers for examples:
BTS vs. K-POP: a video essay
BTS: More Than K-Pop
Billboard vs. BTS
you're wrong about k-pop: a video essay
Those are just a few examples and videos I personally enjoy but It'd be interesting to see y'alls opinions on them as well
Thank you
Those are great suggestions!
@@REDEMPTION46 also this link if you want to hear Bang PD talk about BTS more th-cam.com/video/MNVYZMC8UQ0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the reaction! Nice to see different content from time to time from bts. I hope you react next time to my recommendation about the rebranding of the company since I think you are all curious. "Hybe: New Brand Presentation"
That sounds fun.. got you
Theory question: In South Korea, if a male athlete wins an international metal (olympics, world cup) or male classical musician wins an international competition they get a military exemption. My thought is, if BTS wins a Grammy I wonder if they will get a military exemption. I know this year they all filed for, and were granted, a deferment but I think Jin would have to go next year unless they get an exemption
i have less faith in them getting exempted even if they won the grammy now because the new president of sk is a hardcore conservative who is doing a lot of controversial moves in other fields, i would not bet on him giving them the time of day quite frankly.
oldest to youngest
Jin
Suga
Jhope
Rm
Jimin
V
Jungkook
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Jin oldest, followed by Suga, Hobi, RM, Jimin, Taehyung and Jk.
HYBE bought Ithaca holdings. They own it. Ithaca holdings is Justin B. And Arianna G. Label.
🤗 *Wow!* That was a Deep 👏👏👏 Conversation! (Me being 70yrs) (Blk-F) From Brick City. Only 1 station played Some Black Music in 50s Then 60s ,Temps/Supremes Etc! 70s/80s Blue Magic/Whispers/Stevie/EW&F 🤗 My Daughter however, Was Madonna, Queen, George.M, ABBA
Brick city? Ohhh you’re not far lol 💜
There have been videos where Bang PD explains more of his philosophy and how he approached things with BTS. I will see if I can track that down for you all. See links in replies
I think this is a really good one that has a mix of Bang PD, BTS, and experts talking about their road to success. The show they are on is called Good Insights
th-cam.com/video/MNVYZMC8UQ0/w-d-xo.html
did y'all know they have a rumor collab with snoopdog
We heard lol
wow 2 hours likeim watching a movie
Hope you loved it
Jin and jimin may not have had vocal training or entered singing competitions like jk , their audition for bighit included singing .. after jin sang , was he asked to be a trainee for the bts group cause it was clear he had potential .. jhope can sing aswell .
They’re both Vocal Gods now 💜
Suga is the 2nd oldest, then J-Hope and RM.
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please react to bts hardships 2013 - 2021 by xceleste and bbygangmags videos on bts and kpop theyre much better than the asian theory's videos he gets many things wrong and his description of american hustle life is annoying its really not bad of a show and bts learned a lot from it. also the way he makes it seem like pre i need you were fake is also annoying cause bts has been writing their own music since predebut all of their music is their real selves its just the visual aspect of the music videos that were a little much but the albums, lyrics and songs themselves were always them they didnt just start being themselves with i need you.
idk i dont like the way he speaks on certain things even though many of his stats are correct ill give him that but like when it comes to describing their history id go with xceleste and bbygangmag more.
also bbygangmag goes deeper into kpop as a whole as well similar to the dkdktv kpop explained but better tbh. more in depth on topics and how media in english portrays kpop.
please react to them :)
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