ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 มี.ค. 2024
- This set up was Jonathan's Fender American Professional Strat. Great looking guitar, generally very good quality build and excellent Lollar single coils (obviously aftermarket replacements). Sadly the gloss maple finish has been applied in the good old, slap-dash, cost-saving BAD way at the Fender Corona factory. Here it seems they take a bare neck, press in the frets and then spray the whole neck, fingerboard and all with clear and/or tinted poly. This leaves the finish riding up and over the frets like a long sticky carpet. They scrape the finish off the frets during polishing and dispatch it from the factory after a quick buff. This is an easy way to do it - but scraping the finish off the top of the frets breaks up that thick poly carpet and invites flaking. It's even worse when the guitar reaches the point where it needs a re-fret. Pulling up the frets rips up the remnants of the poly 'carpet' even more - leaving 21 frayed rectangles of poly longing to peel back and fall off. Even if you were to try to fret over that (and believe me, I have) you have little or no control of the rubble-strewn surface you're trying to lay new frets on.
Tonight, thankfully, as I was not re-fretting all I had to worry about was the small possibility that this clear poly finish might also be from one of the Fender batches that suffered from poor adhesion qualities... I'm happy to report that the finish help up well, and overall the set up was - for once - trouble free! - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
![The Perfect Stratocaster Trem / Vibrato Setup [Floating, Flat Or Blocked?]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/PjVXWyUGpwc/mqdefault.jpg)
![รวมเพลงลูกทุ่ง 6 หนุ่มไทบ้าน ฮิตติดกระแส ชุดที่ 1 l มนต์แคน ไมค์ ไผ่ เสถียร ไหมไทย พี [Longplay]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GD2v1OjMw5I/mqdefault.jpg)
I used to do what you do until ill health forced early retirement. I miss it so much so I'm subscribing whether you like it or not, at least i can watch you work, you are very good at the job😊
Thank you Joe - that means a lot to me. It won't be too many years realistically before I'll be in the same position, and I really do keep it in mind so that I stay in the present moment and live it as fully as I can.
My 2011 American strat came with Paulie on top of the frets as well. I did not know it until sometime later when it started to chip off while playing. It was a hell of a job getting that off the frets and getting them leveled
I DO understand (you bet I do!) - and sympathise.
Love your videos Sam, easure to watch you bring beautiful guitars back to their best. Another brilliant video. Thanks.
Thanks Andrew :)
Brilliant stuff indeed, keep up the good work. One of my all time favourite channels!
Delayed thank you! Appreciate your long-time support!
1000+ views and only 50odd likes. Deserves a lot more. Great video Sam.
Thanks Jim :) I never say ‘Press subscribe and like’…. maybe I should start!
The Young ones, Dated but good lol. The best of british comedy man.
"Hands up everyone who likes MEEE?!?" (Neil, Vyvian and MIke all put both hands down under the table....) :D
Really enjoying watching this. Interesting how I seem to be learning more when it is my guitar being worked on. Can't wait to feel how the work affects how it plays.
The flattened frets must have been done at the factory. I bought it new and have not had any fret work done before. The rest of the wear is just lots of playing (it is my main guitar).
Sorry for the late reply Jonathan, been really busy! Interesting about the frets... I wonder if these instruments are 'Plek'd' then? If so, it would appear quite a voracious process. Do you remember in the promo whether it had the Plek treatment or not?
I noticed this when using big screws in and out of neck wood. It eventually wears out the holes and the screws tend to bind. I use some hard paste wax to lube the threads.
One of the biggest mistakes is when the neck pocket holes are so small that the screws bit into the neck pocket wood... occasionally this happens to end up with a 'forced' gap between neck heel and pocket that tightening won't make go away...
@@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars , like we saw there. Yeah, I've drilled out a few now.
I like Easter, almost more than Xmas. Not religious either. But usually with Easter, there is better weather to enjoy on the downtime lol
I really enjoyed your set process i'm still a bit confused on the trem rear setting do you make it flat to the body then raise the rear (by adjusting the spring screw) to what height
It's a method set out by Galeazzo Frudua (an Italian luthier / player). It's just about knowing what angle to set the bridge plate at to give a consistent range of pitch up when you pull the trem arm up/back so the bridge plate touches down flat on the guitar top. The steps are:
0. Make sure your strings are FULLY stretched out first
1. Screw your trem claw screws fully in so that your tremolo bridge is effective 'hard-tailed' by the stretched out springs
2. Set your preferred playing action (neck relief, 1st and last fret actions)
3. Before starting to set your tremolo, lower your preferred playing action you just set by 0.5mm (as measured at the last fret) or one half turn of each of the saddles' grub screws counter-clockwise (Note the playing action may sound terrible after that, with buzz etc, but setting the trem to floating will lift it up again by that same 0.5mm returning it to where it was originally)
4. Next, tune strings to pitch
5. Insert x amount of Post-It notes under the back of the bridge plate until the G string note drops down from G and becomes an E. This step is showing you the physical position that your bridge plate has to be in to give a standard range of pitch-up (which is conventionally 0.5 tones on the high E, 1 tone on the B and 1.5 tones on the G)
6. When G has become an E, tune all strings back to normal pitch (with the Post-Its still in place)
7. When all strings are at pitch, remove the Post-It notes. The high spring tension will pull the bridge back down to the guitar top causing all your strings to go sharp. Next you're going to tune your strings back down to normal pitch... using just the tremolo claw screws you tightened up at the beginning.
8. Go round the back and slowly undo the trem claw screws until your 3rd string comes back down to G (from whatever note it got to when you removed the Post-Its)
9. When the 3rd string is 'tuned' back to G the remaining strings will be at, or close to, their normal pitch too. Make any fine tuning adjustments.
10. Pull up on your trem arm to test your range of pitch up across the 1st 3 strings (0.5 tones on the high E, 1 tone on the B and 1.5 tones on the G) or very close.
I enjoy your videos Sam. It might be a silly question. But why not just put smaller grub screws in the saddles rather than using a shim?
Not a silly question… the ‘sticky up’ screws was a secondary thing; the main thing was that Jonathan wanted a lower action but didn’t want the E saddles flat on the deck. With the guitar’s default neck/pocket geometry, his preferred action left those saddles flat out. So the shim was about having the preferred action without those E saddles lying flat on the floor… and as it happens, shimming to avoid that also pulls in the saddles to a more comfortable position. You’re right; had it been a comfort issue only (and had the guitar been at the desired action to begin with and the saddle not been decked) then a set of short grub screws would have been s as good idea.
Maybe a stupid question but I changed from heavy 10.5 to a regular 10 set and my stratocaster has a maple board , but now it seems to have a lot more twang and lost a lot of the lower tones is there a set up trick to get some of those lost tones or should I just chuck the strings ? I love your videos never change. I am lucky enough to have found you back in the shed days.
Dave the wave :) Ah the shed days. Maurice is still with us, I just don’t risk bringing him to the workshop in case he runs off! The string question stumps me, to be honest. The gauge change is so small (relatively-speaking) that I can’t see how it alone would create a noticeable difference tonally… when you DO encounter a situation like that I think it’s worth £7 to try a new set of strings to test whether it in fact IS particular to that set of strings or whether there really IS a tonal difference in such a small gauge change.
@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars thanks Sam glad to hear your beautiful cat is still running around . You inspired me to do some investigating and 2 quarter turns of the truss rod and were back in business still a little twangy but better. Quick question have you ever thought about selling kits of your fret leveling "banana " I'd buy one for sure ! , again you've taught me so much about taking care of my guitars I very much appreciate everything you do
Hi Sam. I have A question. When setting intonation is it best to lower the pups before setting. I watch A lot of you tube guys...and some say not to do that...while others say yes always lower the pups before setting intonation because of the magnetic pull. What do you say about that...The saddles on my strat are not in the step position at all. Thanks for your time my friend. Bill S.
Boy oh boy. I can't believe the bunkum out there in 'Guitarworld'! Intonation is first and foremost about distance. The question is: do my pickups extend the distance between nut edge and bridge apex by any meaningful amount? If they were SO strong that they pulled the strings with a massive CLANG!! and bent them visibly into an angle away from the straight line between nut and saddle. By the laws of physics, yes, a pickup pole exerts a small amount of pull; but could you even measure it in 1/1000ths of a mm? No. I understand the 'logic' but I think those people are way overthinking things :)
@@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars Thank you Sam. I want to take A photo of my Bridge Saddles and have you take A look. Sam I have played Guitar for most of my life...and I know nothing about the set up. I play mostly Pedal Steel Guitar...But I love the Chet Atkins style...and I can play A little like Chet on my Fender strat. If I can help you with anything about the Steel Guitar...Please let me know. Back to the Saddles. I was told that they should be in A step position if the intonation is set right. I hope im not over stepping my welcome...But I can see that you are very knowledgeable on guitars. Thanks for any help you can give me. Bill S.
@@billsutton8313 Email me at ‘Samdeeks@gmail.com’ and I’ll help if I can :)
If you set the pickups after adjusting intonation, surely it will throw off your tuning/intonation when you play. Set them to the correct height and then set the intonation (in my opinion).
@@Jamesfoofighter I very much doubt it. But you could prove me wrong by doing an experiment. The reason I don't do such an experiment is that I already know that the least stable variable in the intonation equation is the force with which you, me (any of us) presses down the string at the 12th fret. Not only is this different for each of us, it's probably different every time for any one of us. The amount of sharp I can (accidentally) make the note go because of this is - I would bet - a few hundred times greater than any effect that the magnets could have on the string.
Should have scour the long edge of the nut before tapping it out
You could be right… I didn’t expect it to be ‘poly’d in’ like that!
Sqm, where can i get this tool? My sons name is Sam. Thanks+
Hi - it just so happens that my '5 steps to guitar set up heaven' shows how to make and use this tool (that I call 'the banana'). More information about the eBook here:
facebook.com/relovedguitars/posts/pfbid0dU5qfMArBQwpu3Ek2YXwJ6M3nS9xTzBAFXDrRJaUguevJJyPxWXqJPh47Yh1jNhYl
If you're interested in the eBook please consider buying direct from me rather than via iBooks or Amazon as they take a very large percentage of the cover price!
@@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars , thanks, I don't buy book's but I appreciate it. Actually your concept I easy enough for me to understand what exactly you're getting at. I really thought that these were an actual product but it's an invention. Cool. Open source too. Wait, gotta buy the book. I understand setups, I just don't like th do them. What this makes me think of is the under string file tool from stew mac. It does one path at a time. I never saw it that way til now. Makes perfect sense now. If one string path is ok, why change it. I usually do not do do full level bit spot level. I can't make the tool but thanks anyway.
Hello Sam...Bill Sutton here. I just came across your channel and I like it. Very good info on guitars. I just bought A Fender American pro 2 strat. I want to try to set it up my self. If I get stuck would you be willing to help me out. Thank you very much.
Bill S.
Hi Bill - of course, just ask if you get stuck. I'll do my best to respond (when I've got time) :)
Why is this kind of setup not done by Fender before they ship them out? Not cheap guitars …every strat I’ve owned needed setup up !
Money, money, money... time / money, profit margins. In business every $ saved in 'cost-cutting' is a $ of profit. By comparison, of every extra $ of new business done, 3/4 of it goes in acquisition costs, material costs, labour and overheads etc. That's the brutal reality why 'cost-cutting' is the natural focus of management.
I finally got an American Standard Stratocaster (2013) in mint condition recently after years and dozens and dozens of budget guitars. *Complete with lacquered frets, a fairly poorly cut nut, and tuners although staggered that a barely as good as the average Cort, Samick, LTD, Yamaha. At least my saddle grub screws aren't poking me as they are maxed out and the action is still incredibly low for my taste, but it does play like butter if not a little bit buzzy when you really lay into it. *Decent tolerances and higher mass hardware/ higher quality metals are the only main drawcards I can see,...but I am also thankful that my hoard of well made Korean, Indonesian, and Chinese guitars are holding their own.
Great work but why replace the nut?
Customer didn't like it and wanted it replaced (it was also pinging and holding on to the strings). Improvement since then, so worth doing :)
The nut never really let the (top E) note ring out like I wanted it. Some sitar-ing. Sam advised that there was not a lot of room to cut the slot further and I was happy to have it replaced.
@@jonathandavies4886 You put it better than I did :)
powered drill on neck screws... really?
Yes, really. It's not a powered drill for starters, it's a cordless screwdriver. It has torque settings. As it happens, most guitars' neck screws require the torque set to 4 to undo; it also happens to be the highest setting I do them back up with. After thousands of set ups I know the feel of that tool.
Based on your comment, would I be right to assume that you'd only do it by hand? How tight would you do it? And presumably you'd judge it by feel? How much force would that 'feel' equate to? And does it matter if you don't know how many newton/metre you're actually using?
By stretching the shit out of new strings, arent you killing them in ad vance? Why not just keep old stretched strings?😮😮
Not at all. Try it sometime - and so long as you’ve sorted your nut out you’ll enjoy rock solid tuning stability…If you want it, that is.
USA professional strat. Na it’s a scam
Well... sort of. Yes.
Wow. There's not enough remaining of my life to watch this to the end.
That's OK. My TH-cam channel does an excellent job of qualifying prospective customers for me. That's precisely why I created it and post content. In a spirit of unconditional respect, you're not a part of my market; that's absolutely fine.
@@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars if you don't want opinions turn off the comments!! your content is similar other content that manages not to bore me to tears.
@@SamDeeksRelovedGuitars thanks for your understanding