Amazing video. I'm glad to see archery techniques being explained on youtube that are based on what works in high level competition instead of what some guy at the club thinks. Here are some form suggestions based on what my level 4 coach has taught me and what helped me to place in the top 10 at the indoor nationals. -have your elbow in line at set position -try to maintain that line all the way to your follow through -have a much shorter pause at your set up in order to use momentum to draw the bow -maintain your back tension for 1-2 seconds after the release -keep your back elbow from dropping as you expand and follow through Happy Shooting :)
Yup, was doing it wrong. Had my first balloon challenge today, you know, where they hit the balloon on the target? At 15m but still. Got it in one shot, my first one. I was shooting something of a gap-instinctive combination. Didn’t even know. Coach told me that means I make a gap adjustment and then just concentrate on the target, let my body make minor variations, and then release. Thanks to you!
Almost through your shot cycle series. Best idea I can share with fellow viewers is to listen to each step, take some time to incorporate the learnings into your shot cycle before moving to the next step. Might just be a day or two on the range, but taking the time to apply the learnings in actual practice goes a long way. Great video series! Wondering how I get my “Shot Cycle Diploma”😉
I used to be left eye dominant as a kid and I was always a lousy shot because I was brought up right handed and so always shot right handed. I remember having to have my sight pins on my old compound in my teens way out to compensate. But at some point in my early 20s I had an accident while hiking where a branch poked me in my left eye and the vision deteriorated over the following year or so due to rippled lens distortion that causes my left eye to see several slightly off centered versions of everything I see with that eye, and my brain had the tough job of relearning how to do everything right eyed, but now I am definitely right eye dominant and can finally shoot right handed a lot better than when I was a kid, heh.
I noticed on Sunday that I was plucking a few times. Now I have a much better idea. I was having a good shoot this weekend until my tab disintegrated, so I resorted to a glove. I'm not used to it so I missed the last 2 shots of the day. I know it's the same technique but psychologically, I'm not consistent enough. I'm going to do a company shoot this coming weekend. I'm just going to have to practice with a glove to get used to it :D
I'm a 62 yo beginner from Barcelona, Spain. I've enjoyed a lot your videos on the Shot cycle. Thanks for them. Now, my question: What about the archer's breathing during every phase of the shot cycle ? For instace, should one aim and release with full or empty lungs to be more consistent and improve accuracy ? Thanks in advance for your answer.
Great Question and it really depends on how accurate you have / want to be. The official World Archery stance is to have your lungs full and expanded. They cite studies that claim your body is more stable that way. But what if you are not trying to hit that super small target? How much of a difference does it make? I know from shooting firearms that breathing out can help relax your mind. Even with that, I tend to hold my breath. I breathe normal and simply hold it while I'm drawing. I really do not know if it has any affect on your accuracy when shooting 30 meters and under.
Awesome vid! I'm enjoying this series 100 per... Not sure if I'm seeing what I think but it appears that when you shoot lefty your drawing arm is pretty much perfectly in line with your arrow compared to when you shoot righty.
Well I think it's pretty crazy you can shoot well with either side. I'm sure you shoot more consistently with your off-hand than most can with their dominant hand.
Have you tried using the little rubber doodads that slip over the bowstring and make the diameter of the string so you can draw the bowstring bare fingered?
Greg, at about 3:28 I could see it looks like you are shooting a heavy point on that arrow, is that so? I ask because I have a Howard Hill bow (70", 40#@30" draw) that looks pretty similar to that Pearson and when I bareshaft it with 600 spine carbons, I have to use a 225 grain point to get the arrows to straighten out. Some other Hill users say I should get 700 spine arrows but I already have the 600s. Is it OK to shoot the arrow with that kind of weight on the tip or would I be better off buying the 700s? Great video series by the way. Thanks.
I like a heavier weight up front. Most of my arrows are either 175 or 200's and that is on a 600 spine. What that is called is "Heavy FOC" (Front of Center). There is a big debate on it's level of importance. There are those that swear by it and those that swear at it. For me, I use whatever it takes for that arrow to fly straight. I'm not hung up on any preset conditions.
Liked the video. A question please. Is the releasing of the arrow a conscious action?. When shooting a shotgun I find I do not pull the trigger, the gun seems to go off when the target picture is right. I find shooting my bow is the same. When the target picture is correct the arrow release is automatic and not a conscious effort. This " instinctive" release is not just a personal process. Do you or others find this happening too?
Hey Greg thanks for another great lesson. I stayed after class because I have a question. At 11:00 you describe how you let the string travel across your fingers into the knuckle joints. Is there no concern about rolling or twisting the string when this happens?
Archery 101 Oh, I got it now. Thanks. You'll be happy to know I busted a nock today because my group was too tight. First time shooting after watching the shot cycle series. Thanks a lot!
Great video as usual Greg. I have a question about the dead release. If mastered, wouldn't a dead release be more accurate because there is less overall movement in the shot, and therefore less room for error? I have found the dynamic release to be natural when I finally got my back involved....but is it ultimately the most accurate? Grey is more static I've noticed. Just sayin'. Also, what do I do if I'm third eye dominant? Kinda screwed eh?
DeWayne Martin has a dead release and is one of the top shooters, now who is going to tell him he is "wrong"? I think the Dynamic is better, but harder to master.
C'mon Greg, Kodak Film Performed Perfect in The Moons Oven Temps? Slinging Arrows, Take Me There Dude! Loving This Stuff Dude, Get This Bloke An Apple. A Viking I know sprays His Arrows White, Opens Up a new Angle?
I don't think in the context of archery eye dominance is a big factor... shot cycle consistency and repeatability are the biggest factors. I've tried both and feel more comfortable shooting right handed as I'm right handed but that's hand dominance. I wear glasses and IMO there's no eye dominance if you wear glasses... your vision should have been corrected to 20/20 in both eyes, I don't think optometrist are in the business of giving you a strong or weaker eye. When shooting left handed although initially the target was clearer I could feel my eyes fighting for dominance and the target and sight (I shoot recurve) would switch back and forth from left and right back to left. Case closed! BTW loving the shot cycle series.
Eye dominance has nothing to do with the eye itself but rather how the brain uses the eyes. Glasses will help correct poor vision but have no effect on dominace.
Many folks can understand the steps of a good shot cycle. Every few can present and teach it. Even fewer can present it at such a high level. For free to the archery community! I am amazed that this video series does not have 10's of thousands of views.
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You’re a natural teacher. Absolutely enjoying - and learning - from this series videos. Thank you for your generosity.
Amazing video. I'm glad to see archery techniques being explained on youtube that are based on what works in high level competition instead of what some guy at the club thinks.
Here are some form suggestions based on what my level 4 coach has taught me and what helped me to place in the top 10 at the indoor nationals.
-have your elbow in line at set position
-try to maintain that line all the way to your follow through
-have a much shorter pause at your set up in order to use momentum to draw the bow
-maintain your back tension for 1-2 seconds after the release
-keep your back elbow from dropping as you expand and follow through
Happy Shooting :)
Good points, thanks for sharing.
Skyler R. Good stuff - thanks
Love how you walked through a 3d course and taught this lesson! Great series!
I can not thank you enough , I think you are a great teacher.
Thanks for the kind words, it is appreciated
Your videos are helping me so much. Thanks Greg!!
Really enjoyed this series Greg, thanks so very much.
your videos help me a lot, and also are fun, thank you very much. I have progressed a lot with them
Yup, was doing it wrong. Had my first balloon challenge today, you know, where they hit the balloon on the target? At 15m but still. Got it in one shot, my first one. I was shooting something of a gap-instinctive combination. Didn’t even know. Coach told me that means I make a gap adjustment and then just concentrate on the target, let my body make minor variations, and then release.
Thanks to you!
The operator is a very good teacher
Man-o-man, you got a healthy bug population. Some looked big enough to hunt.
Almost through your shot cycle series. Best idea I can share with fellow viewers is to listen to each step, take some time to incorporate the learnings into your shot cycle before moving to the next step. Might just be a day or two on the range, but taking the time to apply the learnings in actual practice goes a long way.
Great video series! Wondering how I get my “Shot Cycle Diploma”😉
Excellent content! Thank You
I used to be left eye dominant as a kid and I was always a lousy shot because I was brought up right handed and so always shot right handed. I remember having to have my sight pins on my old compound in my teens way out to compensate. But at some point in my early 20s I had an accident while hiking where a branch poked me in my left eye and the vision deteriorated over the following year or so due to rippled lens distortion that causes my left eye to see several slightly off centered versions of everything I see with that eye, and my brain had the tough job of relearning how to do everything right eyed, but now I am definitely right eye dominant and can finally shoot right handed a lot better than when I was a kid, heh.
I noticed on Sunday that I was plucking a few times. Now I have a much better idea. I was having a good shoot this weekend until my tab disintegrated, so I resorted to a glove. I'm not used to it so I missed the last 2 shots of the day. I know it's the same technique but psychologically, I'm not consistent enough. I'm going to do a company shoot this coming weekend. I'm just going to have to practice with a glove to get used to it :D
I'm a 62 yo beginner from Barcelona, Spain. I've enjoyed a lot your videos on the Shot cycle. Thanks for them.
Now, my question:
What about the archer's breathing during every phase of the shot cycle ?
For instace, should one aim and release with full or empty lungs to be more consistent and improve accuracy ?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
Great Question and it really depends on how accurate you have / want to be. The official World Archery stance is to have your lungs full and expanded. They cite studies that claim your body is more stable that way.
But what if you are not trying to hit that super small target? How much of a difference does it make?
I know from shooting firearms that breathing out can help relax your mind. Even with that, I tend to hold my breath. I breathe normal and simply hold it while I'm drawing.
I really do not know if it has any affect on your accuracy when shooting 30 meters and under.
Awesome, a field trip! Do we get to watch a film strip next week? Thank you for this fantastic series, it is very helpful!
Awesome vid! I'm enjoying this series 100 per... Not sure if I'm seeing what I think but it appears that when you shoot lefty your drawing arm is pretty much perfectly in line with your arrow compared to when you shoot righty.
Yep, not sure why, But it just feels wrong when I do it right handed.
Well I think it's pretty crazy you can shoot well with either side. I'm sure you shoot more consistently with your off-hand than most can with their dominant hand.
Have you tried using the little rubber doodads that slip over the bowstring and make the diameter of the string so you can draw the bowstring bare fingered?
Yes, I have. I use them on bows i use for teaching camp groups and such. They are great for that, but I cannot get the "feel" I prefer with them.
Greg, at about 3:28 I could see it looks like you are shooting a heavy point on that arrow, is that so? I ask because I have a Howard Hill bow (70", 40#@30" draw) that looks pretty similar to that Pearson and when I bareshaft it with 600 spine carbons, I have to use a 225 grain point to get the arrows to straighten out. Some other Hill users say I should get 700 spine arrows but I already have the 600s. Is it OK to shoot the arrow with that kind of weight on the tip or would I be better off buying the 700s? Great video series by the way. Thanks.
I like a heavier weight up front. Most of my arrows are either 175 or 200's and that is on a 600 spine. What that is called is "Heavy FOC" (Front of Center). There is a big debate on it's level of importance. There are those that swear by it and those that swear at it.
For me, I use whatever it takes for that arrow to fly straight. I'm not hung up on any preset conditions.
Thank you Gregarcher!
Good stuff ,thanks for the good work.
Liked the video. A question please. Is the releasing of the arrow a conscious action?. When shooting a shotgun I find I do not pull the trigger, the gun seems to go off when the target picture is right. I find shooting my bow is the same. When the target picture is correct the arrow release is automatic and not a conscious effort. This " instinctive" release is not just a personal process. Do you or others find this happening too?
It can be, when it is it is a "higher Level" of shooting. Then there are times where you have to make the call to let that arrow go.
All those damned bugs must be a great test of your concentration.
Hey Greg thanks for another great lesson. I stayed after class because I have a question. At 11:00 you describe how you let the string travel across your fingers into the knuckle joints. Is there no concern about rolling or twisting the string when this happens?
Has not been a problem for me yet. The string really does not travel, the hand opens up. Does that make sense?
Archery 101 Oh, I got it now. Thanks. You'll be happy to know I busted a nock today because my group was too tight. First time shooting after watching the shot cycle series. Thanks a lot!
Tell us about your " string blur " alignment to the arrow. It looks to me like your string is to the outside of your eye.
I do not have it, so I do not use it.
For a right handed shooter - would plucking the string torque the bow and cause the arrow to fly left?
Yes, it can. When I pluck they go to the right.
I can't use a bow lefty and right yet, but I learned to shoot left and right because the tree isn't always on the same side 🤣
How did you film the flying arrow? It looked like you had some sort of mini cam attached to the arrow. I enjoy your videos.
Held it in his hand under the camera he was holding and walked it to the target and stuck it in, I would suggest.
*Edit:* Wow I'm a genius.
I took my Go Pro, held it by the arrow and walked to the target, then in my editing program I sped it up.
Archery 101 That shot came our excellent. I've been wondering how you did it, too because the arrow doesn't spin at all. Great cinematography work!
i love this
Are they the reason you left the shades on?
Great video as usual Greg. I have a question about the dead release. If mastered, wouldn't a dead release be more accurate because there is less overall movement in the shot, and therefore less room for error? I have found the dynamic release to be natural when I finally got my back involved....but is it ultimately the most accurate? Grey is more static I've noticed. Just sayin'.
Also, what do I do if I'm third eye dominant? Kinda screwed eh?
Tim Luzak 3rd eye dominance means you'll be better at instinctive ;)
Hahaha.....good answer my friend.
DeWayne Martin has a dead release and is one of the top shooters, now who is going to tell him he is "wrong"?
I think the Dynamic is better, but harder to master.
Sounds like the gun people in the background are going crazy, guess your on a multi-use range ?
C'mon Greg, Kodak Film Performed Perfect in The Moons Oven Temps?
Slinging Arrows, Take Me There Dude!
Loving This Stuff Dude, Get This Bloke An Apple.
A Viking I know sprays His Arrows White, Opens Up a new Angle?
PS: Sick Post Yank,,, Sssliiingggg...)>>------------->>>>@
I don't think in the context of archery eye dominance is a big factor... shot cycle consistency and repeatability are the biggest factors. I've tried both and feel more comfortable shooting right handed as I'm right handed but that's hand dominance.
I wear glasses and IMO there's no eye dominance if you wear glasses... your vision should have been corrected to 20/20 in both eyes, I don't think optometrist are in the business of giving you a strong or weaker eye.
When shooting left handed although initially the target was clearer I could feel my eyes fighting for dominance and the target and sight (I shoot recurve) would switch back and forth from left and right back to left.
Case closed!
BTW loving the shot cycle series.
Eye dominance has nothing to do with the eye itself but rather how the brain uses the eyes. Glasses will help correct poor vision but have no effect on dominace.
Be FREE!
Many folks can understand the steps of a good shot cycle. Every few can present and teach it. Even fewer can present it at such a high level. For free to the archery community! I am amazed that this video series does not have 10's of thousands of views.
At 11:49 your release hand dropped...
And ......