Well, I’m a 73 year old Car Guy and the owner of a 2017 F Type R Convertible and on these Kentucky Curvy Backroads with the top down it doesn’t get ANY better than this. This Car is a Beautiful, Roaring, Super Sounding Exhaust and is Glued to the Road. It’s the Best Automobile I’ve owned for having a Weekend Sunny Drive to play around with. Super Thrilling Every Time I drive it, even to the Grocery Store.
I've had the 2017 2020 and will be purchasing the 2023.. the 2017 was special as I loved the old lights.. but will make the best of the new 2023.. 😅it's one of a kind.. while I'd love the top down convertible.. the look of the coupe is special to me
I am 61 , retired drew to health issues, would love a f-type but not on my pension lol. I drive a jaguar xe r-sport , so happy with this . I love jaguars great cars , been in the UK the UK government is killing the enjoyment of owning a car .
I had a 2015 F-type 6 cylinder for 3 years until I hit a deer and insurance totalled it out...now I have a 2017 F-type R 8 cylinder and it's on a whole other level ❤❤❤ gonna put it away for the winter and just before spring am having a pulley upgrade and tune done for 650HP
I don’t think the F-type has anything to worry about. Anyone who buys a corvette over an F-type probably thinks shorts with white socks and black shoes is a good fashion choice.
Car design is subjective and I personally think that the F-Type is stunning much more interesting than a Porsche. Yes the Porsche might have better statistics but for 99.9 per cent of the time you will not notice any difference when driving daily, the only time that this would be an issue would be on a track day. Jaguar make great cars, it's a shame that the XJ was discontinued but the SUV fad is a must for any car company that wants to survive, people want them and every car manufacturer is building them so you can't blame Jaguar for following the trend. Ha ha...and yes, I do own a Jaguar and I love it!
I agree with your point on the discontinuation of the XJ. The 1986 XJ 6 in British Racing Green was my first introduction to Jaguar. It was a stunningly elegant car. I’m not a fan of the new SUVs amongst any of the manufacturers with the exception of Range Rover. I’m very sorry to hear Jaguar is once again canceling a classic series. I hope that they ease into the electric vehicle market with a hybrid. I hate to witness the end of that beautiful cat like exhaust note. Modern hype ruins a lot of things! Please listen Jaguar!
@@earlmcandrew4583There’s no easing in…They’ve gone with the all or nothing approach apparently. Seems like a potentially dangerous move business-wise to me, but what do I know. Surely they know there is a market for the segment they will be aiming at. If they don’t and they are still moving forward with their plan, then they basically deserve to die as a company…Survival of the fittest and all that…Time will tell I guess….I have read several times that the very affluent love to spend hoards of cash on these EVs, and the pandemic has shown that it is possible to sell a lesser number of vehicles at higher price points and still prosper…I think this is their game plan…
The Porsche will be better on a track but if the track is your focus there are better options than a 911. If you want a street car both are great. The Jag might actually be the more comfortable of the 2 for street. The big thing you will notice for daily driving is the fact that the F-type will not be competing with a Dyson vacuum cleaner like the 911 is. So there are tangible differences that someone only streeting the car could enjoy over the 911. Looks and sound is in the favour of the Jag. The looks is opinion. The sound really isn't. Anyone with ears can't hear who the winner is there. All this said, I personally still quite enjoy that classic shape of the 911. First world problems having to choose between cars like this.
The F-Type is not a car that you get into, this is a car that you put on! When you get into the car first you adjust the seat for your legs and it fits my long ones. Then you adjust the sides of the seat till it hugs you just right. Once you are wearing the car it responds to your every wish. Leaving a stop sign you simply pull away, it accelerates so smoothly other cars will watch your tail lights as you drive away without spinning the tires. Yes I have owned it for 5 years now and I will be wearing it for several years to come.
What you say is all true and I love my R, but part of that feeling of wearing the car is the fact you have almost no room in the cabin -- for anything. You can fit two people, and that's it -- okay, maybe two small drinks in the cup-holders. Almost nothing fits in the arm-rest storage. The trunk for non-verts is good sized, enough for a set of golf-clubs or mid-sized luggage, but forget it in the cabin. Going from vehicles w/ a back-seat to this two-seater w/ no storage in the cabin is a massive adjustment. Even little things like sun-glasses, wallet, cell-phones & chargers, garage door openers, etc. You run out of room quick. I'd go so far as to say it was even a bit claustrophobic for me at first. Once you get used to it, you definitely wear the vehicle -- it wraps you and just goes in whatever direction you point it, and it does so quickly. I've only owned mine for about a year -- '16 AWD Coupe w/ ~23k miles on the clock. We're about to have a second kid and I'm deciding if I can justify having a two-seater fun-car like this w/ a soon-to-be family of four. It's simply not usable for anything other than pleasure-driving and/or solo trips. I suppose that's most two-seaters, but I don't get that same feeling in my coworker's Audi R-something or another's Merc AMG something-or-other, both two-seaters. Maybe I'm just getting old. :)
FYI- The F-Type SVR (I happen to own one) hits 60 in 2.9 secs- this new R has that very same engine. I've managed this succesfully. Jag's official stated time of 3.5 secs is very conservative. The AWD puts the power down instantly and I've beaten out C8s and even a Ferrari 488 from a standstill.
I’ve owned an R model for 3 years now and although this model has been out for some time now-you rarely see any on the road which is a blessing. I’ve already been seeing C8’s everywhere already.
Good review except: 1. The F Type R that you tested is a great value because the old in SVR trim was about $15,000 more the same performance and less technology. 2. The interior ergonomics of the F-Type is the best of any sports at any price. You can make ALL adjustments without taking you eyes off the road. The Corvette is to complex and too many buttons in awkward places and the passenger has no access to the infotainment. 3. It is disingenuous for reviewers to keep comparing the Corvette based on msrp when the car sells for $15,000 more IF you can find one. So in reality a Corvette cost about the same and you get less. The Jag is has the best exhaust of ANY car on the market, it is more prestigious and it’s all wheel drive which means it’s safer and can be used all year long. I cross shopped both vehicles and could not justify paying $15,000 more for the privilege of buying a Chevy with a push rod engine that only an American would call high tech, and they were not letting anyone test drive the car and suggested we watch a TH-cam video. The big problem with this craziness is that when you go for service, you are still going to a Chevy dealership and some fresh out of high school guy is gonna joy ride your $100k plus car. Meanwhile, the Jag had no mark up, they gave me the keys to take it for a test AND I could order it custom exactly the way I wanted it including options I created which American cars don’t offer that. The only car that compares to the F-Type is the AMG GT. Not having a back seat is a unique experience and the 911 can’t offer that and the Cayman is a step down. Car reviews are gonna be a lot easier when everyone goes electric because most cars will be the same. Good luck.
Man, it's like you went for a trip through my head and pulled out all my thoughts ;-) Malibu dealerships servicing Corvettes. Yup. The design of this car is timeless. The boy racer look of the corvette C8 is not gonna stand the test of time. I seriously think the audience for these 2 cars are very different, they're prioritizing different things in the purchase, etc...If money spent was a priority, and you could truly get a C8 for the MSRP, then I suppose it could be a harder option to ignore. Not for me, but would be more compelling...I sat in one of these F-type Rs...Anyone who thinks that cabin, particularly in full leather trim (which this one in this video is not I think), is low rent needs a head shake...C8 interior is quite nice, but in my opinion the jag interior is more classy...My thoughts only...The other advantage that the F-type has is that the problems in it are not many, it's a pretty flushed out car with a super reliable engine and transmission that has a solid track record. God only knows the problems that are lurking in these corvette, regular C8 or Z06 variants, and GM has a propensity for ignoring and not fixing design flaws. Watched a couple videos lately where they mentioned there are thousands and thousands of transmission failures in the base C8 car, and the Z06s have significant issues that are slowly starting to come out as well. All this said, I still think GM has done something pretty remarkable with the new Corvette generally, especially if the problems stabilize and there are no continued problems that plague these cars into the future.
@@dlj1285 Facts! Keep in mind, the passenger, hopefully a lady: In the FTYPE She can reach the screen, volume or change the music. In a Corvette, she’s a hostage!😂She can’t change anything and there’s a wall buttons keeping her from touching you etc.✅
I just bought this car. I love it. Great looking and very fast. The new Corvette is for the younger demographic. I’m 60 and this seems a better choice for a guy becoming and old fart! 🤣
In our areas, Porsches seem as numerous as Toyotas, with all the 911 variants blurring into "yet another Porsche" whether they're $50K or $250K. Yes, on-track, the 911 will be faster, but what about when not on-track? I think that it's wrong - or at least odd - to compare the two. The 911 is a hardcore sports car, what the F-Type is a true GT car, as in Grand Touring, not racing. It's kinda of like comparing a 911 to a truck and concluding that the 911 would suck off-road - it misses the point. For me, the early F-Type is so mind-boggingly beautiful in comparison to anything else I could afford, that I bought a used 2015 R. No regrets - and no, I Never thought I'd own a Jag!
Great review bro! I love the FType! The exhaust sound alone is enough for me! But since there hasn’t been a drastic design change for a while, it makes me think Jaguar has something new coming soon!!
Have a 21 R Coupe 🐆 Absolutely love it. Car is a beauty and a beast !!!! No complaints. Just that u can’t lock the car doors while it’s running. Unless someone knows a trick.
People talk shit on Jags depreciating, but go look for an FType s or even the V8 and 2016-2018 models are 38-50k easily. I was surprised and taken aback
My 2017 F Type R Convertible has not had one problem. This has been the most enjoyable Car I’ve ever owned. I totally enjoy the Sound of those 550 horses and the crackling sound on down shifts. This Car was built with everything I want in a sport car, style, handling, power and thrilling to drive!!!
Thank you for the video. I have been looking at the F Type R for a month now. I wouldn't compare this type of car as being in the same class as Corvette C8 though. The new Corvette (2020 onward) is a marvelous car but the F Type R is not comparable (in my opinion). I think the remainder of your analysis is DEAD ON CORRECT. I want to buy one but I can get a Porsche 718 Boxster S for 2/3rds the cost and I think that's where I'm headed. Thank you for your time and I wish you success.
718 is nice, but its not the same experience as an F-type R. Will save you a few bucks initially, but the higher Porsche servicing costs will even that out longer term.
Yes, the older switch gear that got all sticky. I'd rather have the revised switchgear that does not do that. That cabin on the whole feels way better than the original car with the full leather option.
Pro tip: If you believe the price to performance ratio for an F-Type is not good enough, then just buy used. The depreciation is huge! I got a barely used 2020 F-Type R for about 50% of what it would have cost new. It's a tremendous value at that price.
You might as well drive around a Kia w/ the "you don't need that much power" mentality. We don't buy these sports / performance vehicles for practicality. The more outlandish and powerful, the better. I loved Clarkson in the glory years of Top Gear, but he is past his prime.
Just got a 2022 450. This is my third cat. As much as I love the shape and stance, I will look for a 2024 R. I think it’s one of the most beautiful cars on the road. I was told that Enzo Ferrari described the f type as one of the mist beautiful cars ever made. Thanks for your video.
jaguar is really in trouble. i absolutely love everything about f type r but 6 dealerships around me are all almost completely out of stock.. I'm talking about most jaguar/land rover dealerships having 0-3 cars total in their lot!!! Pretty sad to walk into an empty lot that has mostly used vehicles of other makes... or is only have stock limited to suvs
You said that it's rated at 575HP. My F type R is rated at 550 and the SVR is rated 575HP. I love the hell out of this car. It's amazing how many people on the road drive up to real fast to find out what it is then back down.
Why does this come with the headline that it’s ’in trouble’? In trouble with what? It’s fabulous-I have one.. by the way you are incorrect the P300 in 2liter is the major option on the last ones made. The SvR V8 AWD is the other one available.
Great review - thanks for making it. Jaguar doesn't have to worry about customers cross-shopping for a Porsche or a Corvette. At that price point, they already have their minds made up and know what they want. Nobody is going to consider a Jaguar if they have a Porsche 911 on their radar. They can afford what they want and will not settle. Jaguar's biggest problem is Jaguar itself. The company is committing corporate suicide by announcing it will go all electric by 2025. The world is not ready for "all electric" yet and as a result their sales will tank even lower. Gas powered cars still sell big and Jaguar will be missing the boat. Another issue that Jaguar has is that they have no brains when it comes to capitalizing in their heritage. Porsche never stopped selling the 911 because the name is legendary and they know that is what the people want. Hey Jaguar, how about bringing back the E-Type and get people excited about the brand again? Also, fire your current designers and redo your lineup. The current XF and SUV's are boring and nobody wants them. Even KIA has cars that look better. How embarrassing is that???
A big mistake of Jaguar is getting rid of the XJ lineup back in 2019. Not too sure about the XF but I definitely agree about them falling into the SUV trap.
Not really sure why you would say this. Lots of people cross shop 911s and F-type Rs. I certainly did. Going with the Jag in the end, as it ticks more boxes in terms of what I'm looking for, but the 911 is a nice car for sure. They are very different experiences I think, but I think a lot of folks DO cross shop them. I also considered a Z06 briefly, as theoretically its in the same price range, but it is not in reality with all the price games being played around the car, availability problems, etc...I think people do cross shop all these cars. These days there really are not a lot of options to consider.
@@dlj1285 If somebody with means wants a new Porsche 911 he will simply buy it. There is no reason cross-shop. Cross shopping is typically for folks that want a great price along with options and any SUV brand will do. I assure you, Porsche has lost very, very few sales to Jaguar due to cross-shopping.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 What an absolute ridiculous snooty comment. I am about to close on a 2024 F-type R and cross shopped it with a 911. It could have went either way, but in the end I made the assessment that the Jag was more inline with what I was looking for. I could have just as easily bought the 911, so I seriously have no idea what you are going on about. I have friends and family that own both vehicles. Either is a fine choice depending on what your goals and budget are in reality. Inevitably there will be snobs out there that view Porsche as the only answer, which is just a completely ridiculous stuck up stance to take quite frankly...More often than not these comments are coming from clowns that cannot afford either, which makes it even more ridiculous and pathetic. There is a car for everyone.
So am I. I bought a full-size truck in 2013 that was $30K out the door. The equivalent today is over $50K MSRP. Not too many people are earning nearly twice today what they were making in 2013.
The 2023 base C8 is $66K, add a $30K supercharger or turbo, you can get 700-800hp; MRSP C8s are not easy to get though. A used FType is a better option, at half price may be!
People saying they dont see many r's on the road, well thats because for 120k you can by something much better looking and as fast if not faster. This car looks like its gonna age quick. Put this next to a c7 grandsport in burgundy and it as closed case.
Better looking than an F-type? It’s going to age quickly? Please. Ithe F-type is widely regarded as one of the best looking designs of all time, penned by Ian Callum, designer of some of the most beautiful Aston Martins. It’s been one of the best looking cars on the road for almost ten years now, it’s a modern day classic following in the footsteps of the E-type predecessor. The design is timeless. The C8 Corvette, on the other hand, is plain ugly, especially compared to previous Vettes. It’s got poor proportions and a cheap boy racer aesthetic. The C7 was much better looking, but still not as beautiful as the F-type.
@@silentstormstudios I agree, I think time will show that the C7 holds up better design-wise than the C8. That is already the case for me. At first I received the look of the C8 well, but after a very short period it got old fast. The Z06 looks much better to my eye, but I think time will not be kind to it either in the looks department. I think there is general consensus out there that the F-type is on a whole other level design-wise than a Corvette. Any Corvette, to date anyway. This only makes sense. A Jag is generally more expensive comparing it to a base C8 car (ADM issues aside), which is the most fair comparison. Design was definitely prioritized in the product that is the F-type. It’s undeniable. To be clear, when I see C7s on the road they look pretty good to me. Just not F-type good, or Aston Martin Vantage good. Some will degree, which is completely fine, but the majority out there agree from what I can see.
It's SO bad, but that's the interesting thing about cars...What one man/woman hates another loves...To each their own. In fairness, the C8 looks much better in the flesh than it does in pictures and video...That's what I found anyway...
@@ryancrawford8042 No truer words have ever been spoken. One is a masterpiece in design. The other one is something that was done with crayons in comparison. The corvette is so over styled it’s ridiculous. That becomes more evident as the days pass. It will not stand the test of time.
Yeah, these are actually good bang for the buck compared to its competitors, and looks better than them, too. They are fantastic buys on the used market.
I will can drive everyday this F-type, just like a Porche, but this Corvette, naaaa no way, the interior design is repulsif, maybe that's why I don't like moderns Ferrari.
I don't find it repulsive, but I definitely feel the same as you about the C8 interior (despite it being much improved). It's not bad, but I just find the F-type interior to be better styled. I think a lot of people just can't look past the lower tech in the Jag, that's all they can see and focus on. It's what you want in the end. I could care less about the tech being behind a bit in the Jag. It brings other elements that are more important in my purchase.
This man is annoying.. the truth is the F Type is not in trouble. You have 12 months to buy it and it will be gone. No more jaguar ICE again . End of story forever and in a few years this man will be saying what happened to all the petrol sports cars lol
The Lexus LC500 is surely a better vehicle in nearly every sense, beside maybe 0-60 time. But that is excused by the far superior material and build quality.
I don't think so. Since its launch, the LC500 has always sold poorly compared to F-Type's best years in the last decade - for a reason. The LC's chassis is all steel, other than the roof components. The suspension components and sub-frames are Toyota corporate recycling bin parts from cheaper models, such as the RC's. Most importantly, the LC has a terrible 10-speed automatic transmission that shifts confusingly and is particularly heavy, even for its GT dimensions. In contrast, the F-Type has a bespoke all-aluminum double-wishbone suspension configuration, and all-aluminum chassis. With the F-Type, you get your money's worth in bill of materials. With the LC500, you really do not get your money's worth in component materials used, other than the thin veneer of its interior materials. Check underbody analysis of LC500 and you will be surprised how Toyota used cheap materials and old parts from other Toyota models.
@@truthseeker0077 Not sure it's fair to say you are not getting your money's worth with that Lexus. Your money is just giving you different things. I say this as someone who prefers an F-type R. Just my opinion, and I respect yours as well.
I love the LC500, it’s a beautiful car and sounds and drives great. But compared to the F-type, it’s an old fogie car. It’s luxurious, but a bit soft. The f-type is a monster and a bit frightening. I’m 53 and bought a 2015 F-type R. I figure I should buy it now while I’m still young enough to enjoy it. Maybe when I’m 60 I’ll look for something akin to the LC500.
The correct wording is not, " more wide", but rather wider,. And I'm sorry dude but the Corvette is ugly, it looks like some little children's cheap plastic injection toy. There is no reason to compare the two. What is this, Consumers reports? Because they are in the same price range we must compare them
Simply too plain. I’m a fan of conservative design, but there’s nothing exciting about the lines of the F Type…if you’re going for the Aston Martin look, then you need more aggressive vents; otherwise, you end up looking like an overpriced Mustang.🤪 The interior definitely needs to be updated.
I’ve had a DB9 2009 and presently own the f-type r. The Aston was an awesome car but a maintenance nightmare chicken shit stuff like electric seat failures, parking brake lock ups and ridiculously price brake jobs, beautiful frustrating to own. My jag has been reliable, fun to drive , and a pleasure to view. Aston certainly has an amazing interior I had tan leather with navy blue, but it’s worth over 100k more.
I've had 3 xkr and 2 ftype rs.. just got out of the 5th lease iwill be buying my final f type r because that's it.. I'm 55 and if the end of my days are spent driving a black f type r.. the almighty above would still turn his head to see me pull up 😅
It is a badass car. Looks like an Aston Martin. I definitely can't afford 120k, but I've been looking at used ones that are literally a quarter of the msrp which is totally insane.
Yeah, you can get decent mileage pre-face lift cars for pretty cheap. I actually picked up a well optioned 21' with 9k miles a few months back for about 30% off the build msrp. Not cheap still, but it's at market value at that point so you won't lose when it comes to sell. F type is an amazing car - just do not buy new unless on lease.
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Well, I’m a 73 year old Car Guy and the owner of a 2017 F Type R Convertible and on these Kentucky Curvy Backroads with the top down it doesn’t get ANY better than this. This Car is a Beautiful, Roaring, Super Sounding Exhaust and is Glued to the Road. It’s the Best Automobile I’ve owned for having a Weekend Sunny Drive to play around with. Super Thrilling Every Time I drive it, even to the Grocery Store.
I've had the 2017 2020 and will be purchasing the 2023.. the 2017 was special as I loved the old lights.. but will make the best of the new 2023.. 😅it's one of a kind.. while I'd love the top down convertible.. the look of the coupe is special to me
@@execattyI just bought the 2017 Jaguar F Type R convertible with 2500 miles on it . The last owner didn’t drive at all.
I’m 63 and retired and love my Lexus LC 500 and will never break and be in the shop every month 😂
I am 61 , retired drew to health issues, would love a f-type but not on my pension lol.
I drive a jaguar xe r-sport , so happy with this .
I love jaguars great cars , been in the UK the UK government is killing the enjoyment of owning a car .
I had a 2015 F-type 6 cylinder for 3 years until I hit a deer and insurance totalled it out...now I have a 2017 F-type R 8 cylinder and it's on a whole other level ❤❤❤ gonna put it away for the winter and just before spring am having a pulley upgrade and tune done for 650HP
I don’t think the F-type has anything to worry about. Anyone who buys a corvette over an F-type probably thinks shorts with white socks and black shoes is a good fashion choice.
Car design is subjective and I personally think that the F-Type is stunning much more interesting than a Porsche. Yes the Porsche might have better statistics but for 99.9 per cent of the time you will not notice any difference when driving daily, the only time that this would be an issue would be on a track day. Jaguar make great cars, it's a shame that the XJ was discontinued but the SUV fad is a must for any car company that wants to survive, people want them and every car manufacturer is building them so you can't blame Jaguar for following the trend. Ha ha...and yes, I do own a Jaguar and I love it!
Agreed I went with a f type over a cayman just cause of the sound and looks
I agree with your point on the discontinuation of the XJ. The 1986 XJ 6 in British Racing Green was my first introduction to Jaguar. It was a stunningly elegant car. I’m not a fan of the new SUVs amongst any of the manufacturers with the exception of Range Rover. I’m very sorry to hear Jaguar is once again canceling a classic series. I hope that they ease into the electric vehicle market with a hybrid. I hate to witness the end of that beautiful cat like exhaust note. Modern hype ruins a lot of things! Please listen Jaguar!
@@earlmcandrew4583There’s no easing in…They’ve gone with the all or nothing approach apparently. Seems like a potentially dangerous move business-wise to me, but what do I know. Surely they know there is a market for the segment they will be aiming at. If they don’t and they are still moving forward with their plan, then they basically deserve to die as a company…Survival of the fittest and all that…Time will tell I guess….I have read several times that the very affluent love to spend hoards of cash on these EVs, and the pandemic has shown that it is possible to sell a lesser number of vehicles at higher price points and still prosper…I think this is their game plan…
The Porsche will be better on a track but if the track is your focus there are better options than a 911. If you want a street car both are great. The Jag might actually be the more comfortable of the 2 for street. The big thing you will notice for daily driving is the fact that the F-type will not be competing with a Dyson vacuum cleaner like the 911 is. So there are tangible differences that someone only streeting the car could enjoy over the 911. Looks and sound is in the favour of the Jag. The looks is opinion. The sound really isn't. Anyone with ears can't hear who the winner is there. All this said, I personally still quite enjoy that classic shape of the 911. First world problems having to choose between cars like this.
The F-Type is not a car that you get into, this is a car that you put on! When you get into the car first you adjust the seat for your legs and it fits my long ones. Then you adjust the sides of the seat till it hugs you just right. Once you are wearing the car it responds to your every wish. Leaving a stop sign you simply pull away, it accelerates so smoothly other cars will watch your tail lights as you drive away without spinning the tires. Yes I have owned it for 5 years now and I will be wearing it for several years to come.
What you say is all true and I love my R, but part of that feeling of wearing the car is the fact you have almost no room in the cabin -- for anything. You can fit two people, and that's it -- okay, maybe two small drinks in the cup-holders. Almost nothing fits in the arm-rest storage. The trunk for non-verts is good sized, enough for a set of golf-clubs or mid-sized luggage, but forget it in the cabin. Going from vehicles w/ a back-seat to this two-seater w/ no storage in the cabin is a massive adjustment. Even little things like sun-glasses, wallet, cell-phones & chargers, garage door openers, etc. You run out of room quick. I'd go so far as to say it was even a bit claustrophobic for me at first. Once you get used to it, you definitely wear the vehicle -- it wraps you and just goes in whatever direction you point it, and it does so quickly. I've only owned mine for about a year -- '16 AWD Coupe w/ ~23k miles on the clock. We're about to have a second kid and I'm deciding if I can justify having a two-seater fun-car like this w/ a soon-to-be family of four. It's simply not usable for anything other than pleasure-driving and/or solo trips. I suppose that's most two-seaters, but I don't get that same feeling in my coworker's Audi R-something or another's Merc AMG something-or-other, both two-seaters. Maybe I'm just getting old. :)
FYI- The F-Type SVR (I happen to own one) hits 60 in 2.9 secs- this new R has that very same engine. I've managed this succesfully. Jag's official stated time of 3.5 secs is very conservative. The AWD puts the power down instantly and I've beaten out C8s and even a Ferrari 488 from a standstill.
100% fact I’ve got the 2019, few cars keep up off the line, and in dynamic few cars sound as nice either
This one is def a downgrade from the Ftype SVR !
I’ve owned an R model for 3 years now and although this model has been out for some time now-you rarely see any on the road which is a blessing. I’ve already been seeing C8’s everywhere already.
There’s literally nothing special about the c8. They are everywhere now as you say. You done good. F-type is much classier.
Best sports car in the world for its price and yes , I own one
Good review except: 1. The F Type R that you tested is a great value because the old in SVR trim was about $15,000 more the same performance and less technology. 2. The interior ergonomics of the F-Type is the best of any sports at any price. You can make ALL adjustments without taking you eyes off the road. The Corvette is to complex and too many buttons in awkward places and the passenger has no access to the infotainment. 3. It is disingenuous for reviewers to keep comparing the Corvette based on msrp when the car sells for $15,000 more IF you can find one. So in reality a Corvette cost about the same and you get less. The Jag is has the best exhaust of ANY car on the market, it is more prestigious and it’s all wheel drive which means it’s safer and can be used all year long. I cross shopped both vehicles and could not justify paying $15,000 more for the privilege of buying a Chevy with a push rod engine that only an American would call high tech, and they were not letting anyone test drive the car and suggested we watch a TH-cam video. The big problem with this craziness is that when you go for service, you are still going to a Chevy dealership and some fresh out of high school guy is gonna joy ride your $100k plus car.
Meanwhile, the Jag had no mark up, they gave me the keys to take it for a test AND I could order it custom exactly the way I wanted it including options I created which American cars don’t offer that. The only car that compares to the F-Type is the AMG GT. Not having a back seat is a unique experience and the 911 can’t offer that and the Cayman is a step down. Car reviews are gonna be a lot easier when everyone goes electric because most cars will be the same. Good luck.
Man, it's like you went for a trip through my head and pulled out all my thoughts ;-) Malibu dealerships servicing Corvettes. Yup. The design of this car is timeless. The boy racer look of the corvette C8 is not gonna stand the test of time. I seriously think the audience for these 2 cars are very different, they're prioritizing different things in the purchase, etc...If money spent was a priority, and you could truly get a C8 for the MSRP, then I suppose it could be a harder option to ignore. Not for me, but would be more compelling...I sat in one of these F-type Rs...Anyone who thinks that cabin, particularly in full leather trim (which this one in this video is not I think), is low rent needs a head shake...C8 interior is quite nice, but in my opinion the jag interior is more classy...My thoughts only...The other advantage that the F-type has is that the problems in it are not many, it's a pretty flushed out car with a super reliable engine and transmission that has a solid track record. God only knows the problems that are lurking in these corvette, regular C8 or Z06 variants, and GM has a propensity for ignoring and not fixing design flaws. Watched a couple videos lately where they mentioned there are thousands and thousands of transmission failures in the base C8 car, and the Z06s have significant issues that are slowly starting to come out as well. All this said, I still think GM has done something pretty remarkable with the new Corvette generally, especially if the problems stabilize and there are no continued problems that plague these cars into the future.
@@dlj1285 Facts! Keep in mind, the passenger, hopefully a lady: In the FTYPE She can reach the screen, volume or change the music. In a Corvette, she’s a hostage!😂She can’t change anything and there’s a wall buttons keeping her from touching you etc.✅
I just bought this car. I love it. Great looking and very fast. The new Corvette is for the younger demographic. I’m 60 and this seems a better choice for a guy becoming and old fart! 🤣
100% get the jag
In our areas, Porsches seem as numerous as Toyotas, with all the 911 variants blurring into "yet another Porsche" whether they're $50K or $250K. Yes, on-track, the 911 will be faster, but what about when not on-track? I think that it's wrong - or at least odd - to compare the two. The 911 is a hardcore sports car, what the F-Type is a true GT car, as in Grand Touring, not racing. It's kinda of like comparing a 911 to a truck and concluding that the 911 would suck off-road - it misses the point. For me, the early F-Type is so mind-boggingly beautiful in comparison to anything else I could afford, that I bought a used 2015 R. No regrets - and no, I Never thought I'd own a Jag!
Great review bro! I love the FType! The exhaust sound alone is enough for me! But since there hasn’t been a drastic design change for a while, it makes me think Jaguar has something new coming soon!!
Have a 21 R Coupe 🐆
Absolutely love it. Car is a beauty and a beast !!!! No complaints. Just that u can’t lock the car doors while it’s running. Unless someone knows a trick.
The doors lock automatically and always have plus how would anyone get in when the handles disappear?
I love this car , great review , and thanks for video !
Just brought home a 2017 Ftype-wife digs it. It’s basically a base model, but it sounds great and it’s a plenty fast mofo
People talk shit on Jags depreciating, but go look for an FType s or even the V8 and 2016-2018 models are 38-50k easily. I was surprised and taken aback
My 2017 F Type R Convertible has not had one problem. This has been the most enjoyable Car I’ve ever owned. I totally enjoy the Sound of those 550 horses and the crackling sound on down shifts. This Car was built with everything I want in a sport car, style, handling, power and thrilling to drive!!!
I'm so glad to see Black Amethyst Metallic. It's the rarest color and my favorite.
Thank you for the video. I have been looking at the F Type R for a month now. I wouldn't compare this type of car as being in the same class as Corvette C8 though. The new Corvette (2020 onward) is a marvelous car but the F Type R is not comparable (in my opinion). I think the remainder of your analysis is DEAD ON CORRECT. I want to buy one but I can get a Porsche 718 Boxster S for 2/3rds the cost and I think that's where I'm headed. Thank you for your time and I wish you success.
Thank you for that! 718 ain’t a bad choice
718 is nice, but its not the same experience as an F-type R. Will save you a few bucks initially, but the higher Porsche servicing costs will even that out longer term.
Yes, the older switch gear that got all sticky. I'd rather have the revised switchgear that does not do that. That cabin on the whole feels way better than the original car with the full leather option.
I was lucky enough to get to hear one in person at one of my electrical customers house oh my god i was so happy
Pro tip: If you believe the price to performance ratio for an F-Type is not good enough, then just buy used. The depreciation is huge! I got a barely used 2020 F-Type R for about 50% of what it would have cost new. It's a tremendous value at that price.
I see c8’s on the street every day. In the last 10 years I’ve only seen 4 F types and mine was one of them.
unless your a real track guy you will never need all this power , according to Jeremy Clarkson the V6 is the car do buy!! I agree
You might as well drive around a Kia w/ the "you don't need that much power" mentality. We don't buy these sports / performance vehicles for practicality. The more outlandish and powerful, the better. I loved Clarkson in the glory years of Top Gear, but he is past his prime.
Just got a 2022 450. This is my third cat. As much as I love the shape and stance, I will look for a 2024 R. I think it’s one of the most beautiful cars on the road. I was told that Enzo Ferrari described the f type as one of the mist beautiful cars ever made. Thanks for your video.
I think that was the E-type he said that about, but I agree with you...The F-type is timeless as well...
I just bought my wife a 2023 F450 Fugi white with the black out trim. The car is a stunner and a true classic 👌
Well it's not in trouble anymore as production has now finished. I shall miss it😞
jaguar is really in trouble. i absolutely love everything about f type r but 6 dealerships around me are all almost completely out of stock.. I'm talking about most jaguar/land rover dealerships having 0-3 cars total in their lot!!! Pretty sad to walk into an empty lot that has mostly used vehicles of other makes... or is only have stock limited to suvs
You said that it's rated at 575HP. My F type R is rated at 550 and the SVR is rated 575HP. I love the hell out of this car. It's amazing how many people on the road drive up to real fast to find out what it is then back down.
121k and you are very close to a barely used Vantage. 2018 R-Dynamic owner here
Why does he think is needs to “change” so much?? I like that they don’t thing they need to do crazy interior design changes … if it works..
Exactly
Interior of Corvette is good however exterior is an acquired taste (the polite way of putting it). The Jag is awesome both on the inside and out
It looks like a riced up McClaren.
What a stellar sports car!
My paddle shifters are aluminium and sound very solid. What car have you got? Mine are as good as a Ferrari and the gearbox is phenomenal
I want the convertible 450 in red. Thank you.
Why does this come with the headline that it’s ’in trouble’? In trouble with what? It’s fabulous-I have one.. by the way you are incorrect the P300 in 2liter is the major option on the last ones made. The SvR V8 AWD is the other one available.
Absolutely gorgeous car.
Dream car!
Corvettes are a dime a dozen. As an F-Type owner I’d never consider trading it for a vette. F-Type is just too good.
Great review - thanks for making it. Jaguar doesn't have to worry about customers cross-shopping for a Porsche or a Corvette. At that price point, they already have their minds made up and know what they want. Nobody is going to consider a Jaguar if they have a Porsche 911 on their radar. They can afford what they want and will not settle. Jaguar's biggest problem is Jaguar itself. The company is committing corporate suicide by announcing it will go all electric by 2025. The world is not ready for "all electric" yet and as a result their sales will tank even lower. Gas powered cars still sell big and Jaguar will be missing the boat. Another issue that Jaguar has is that they have no brains when it comes to capitalizing in their heritage. Porsche never stopped selling the 911 because the name is legendary and they know that is what the people want. Hey Jaguar, how about bringing back the E-Type and get people excited about the brand again? Also, fire your current designers and redo your lineup. The current XF and SUV's are boring and nobody wants them. Even KIA has cars that look better. How embarrassing is that???
A big mistake of Jaguar is getting rid of the XJ lineup back in 2019.
Not too sure about the XF but I definitely agree about them falling into the SUV trap.
What's sad is Alfa Romeo are planning on making exactly the same mistake. I've had loads of Alfa's. I have absolutely zero interest in an electric one
Not really sure why you would say this. Lots of people cross shop 911s and F-type Rs. I certainly did. Going with the Jag in the end, as it ticks more boxes in terms of what I'm looking for, but the 911 is a nice car for sure. They are very different experiences I think, but I think a lot of folks DO cross shop them. I also considered a Z06 briefly, as theoretically its in the same price range, but it is not in reality with all the price games being played around the car, availability problems, etc...I think people do cross shop all these cars. These days there really are not a lot of options to consider.
@@dlj1285 If somebody with means wants a new Porsche 911 he will simply buy it. There is no reason cross-shop. Cross shopping is typically for folks that want a great price along with options and any SUV brand will do. I assure you, Porsche has lost very, very few sales to Jaguar due to cross-shopping.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 What an absolute ridiculous snooty comment. I am about to close on a 2024 F-type R and cross shopped it with a 911. It could have went either way, but in the end I made the assessment that the Jag was more inline with what I was looking for. I could have just as easily bought the 911, so I seriously have no idea what you are going on about. I have friends and family that own both vehicles. Either is a fine choice depending on what your goals and budget are in reality. Inevitably there will be snobs out there that view Porsche as the only answer, which is just a completely ridiculous stuck up stance to take quite frankly...More often than not these comments are coming from clowns that cannot afford either, which makes it even more ridiculous and pathetic. There is a car for everyone.
I still am shocked every time I hear the price of cars. Sweet car though!
So am I. I bought a full-size truck in 2013 that was $30K out the door. The equivalent today is over $50K MSRP. Not too many people are earning nearly twice today what they were making in 2013.
The rear gives it a sportcar look.Does it do 0-60 in 3.6 seconds and 186 mph?
3.5 is the official, but apparent it’s actually low 3s a lot of the time…seen numbers like 3.08 etc posted out there…
The 2023 base C8 is $66K, add a $30K supercharger or turbo, you can get 700-800hp; MRSP C8s are not easy to get though. A used FType is a better option, at half price may be!
1000% true
The C8 isn’t something that speaks to me.
*give it an exotic sports car look…* well duh it is an exotic sportscar
Pricy my A - - S I own three of them 2017 , 2020, 2024. I don’t know who you’re buying them from.I got my F type R 2024 new for under the $100K AWD V8
People saying they dont see many r's on the road, well thats because for 120k you can by something much better looking and as fast if not faster. This car looks like its gonna age quick. Put this next to a c7 grandsport in burgundy and it as closed case.
Lol, better looking than an F-type…riiiiggghhttt…Good luck with that
@@dlj1285 The guy compared it to a c7, I don't think you even needed to leave a comment lol.
@@lwdn3379 Yup, it’s hard to give people taste. You either have it or you don’t. He does not. Clearly.
Better looking than an F-type? It’s going to age quickly? Please. Ithe F-type is widely regarded as one of the best looking designs of all time, penned by Ian Callum, designer of some of the most beautiful Aston Martins. It’s been one of the best looking cars on the road for almost ten years now, it’s a modern day classic following in the footsteps of the E-type predecessor. The design is timeless.
The C8 Corvette, on the other hand, is plain ugly, especially compared to previous Vettes. It’s got poor proportions and a cheap boy racer aesthetic. The C7 was much better looking, but still not as beautiful as the F-type.
@@silentstormstudios I agree, I think time will show that the C7 holds up better design-wise than the C8. That is already the case for me. At first I received the look of the C8 well, but after a very short period it got old fast. The Z06 looks much better to my eye, but I think time will not be kind to it either in the looks department.
I think there is general consensus out there that the F-type is on a whole other level design-wise than a Corvette. Any Corvette, to date anyway. This only makes sense. A Jag is generally more expensive comparing it to a base C8 car (ADM issues aside), which is the most fair comparison. Design was definitely prioritized in the product that is the F-type. It’s undeniable.
To be clear, when I see C7s on the road they look pretty good to me. Just not F-type good, or Aston Martin Vantage good. Some will degree, which is completely fine, but the majority out there agree from what I can see.
[this, 2024 jaguar will make a great write off]
Only reason this caught ppls attention was because of the crackles and pops, but they took that away😢
The looks do that. Besides, pull fuse 15 and some of those pops and bangs are back.
Crackle exhaust is embarrassing
That’s ok older one looks way better haha
Front head lights are nicer in my opinion on older models
I love this car and have been watching tonnes of reviews for it. But Jesus Christ, you guys need to learn how to say the name 😂
the vette is ugly
It's SO bad, but that's the interesting thing about cars...What one man/woman hates another loves...To each their own. In fairness, the C8 looks much better in the flesh than it does in pictures and video...That's what I found anyway...
This jag is 100x better looking than a c7 or c8.
@@ryancrawford8042 No truer words have ever been spoken. One is a masterpiece in design. The other one is something that was done with crayons in comparison. The corvette is so over styled it’s ridiculous. That becomes more evident as the days pass. It will not stand the test of time.
120 k. No no no noooo
Cheaper than a Porsche
Yeah, these are actually good bang for the buck compared to its competitors, and looks better than them, too. They are fantastic buys on the used market.
I will can drive everyday this F-type, just like a Porche, but this Corvette, naaaa no way, the interior design is repulsif, maybe that's why I don't like moderns Ferrari.
I don't find it repulsive, but I definitely feel the same as you about the C8 interior (despite it being much improved). It's not bad, but I just find the F-type interior to be better styled. I think a lot of people just can't look past the lower tech in the Jag, that's all they can see and focus on. It's what you want in the end. I could care less about the tech being behind a bit in the Jag. It brings other elements that are more important in my purchase.
Everyone State your age on the comments plz lol . Trying to see if i am a right fit for this car lol .
This man is annoying.. the truth is the F Type is not in trouble. You have 12 months to buy it and it will be gone. No more jaguar ICE again . End of story forever and in a few years this man will be saying what happened to all the petrol sports cars lol
Just a click bait title more than anything. Man’s gotta eat ;-o
The Lexus LC500 is surely a better vehicle in nearly every sense, beside maybe 0-60 time. But that is excused by the far superior material and build quality.
I don't think so. Since its launch, the LC500 has always sold poorly compared to F-Type's best years in the last decade - for a reason. The LC's chassis is all steel, other than the roof components. The suspension components and sub-frames are Toyota corporate recycling bin parts from cheaper models, such as the RC's. Most importantly, the LC has a terrible 10-speed automatic transmission that shifts confusingly and is particularly heavy, even for its GT dimensions. In contrast, the F-Type has a bespoke all-aluminum double-wishbone suspension configuration, and all-aluminum chassis. With the F-Type, you get your money's worth in bill of materials. With the LC500, you really do not get your money's worth in component materials used, other than the thin veneer of its interior materials. Check underbody analysis of LC500 and you will be surprised how Toyota used cheap materials and old parts from other Toyota models.
@@truthseeker0077 truth and excellent summary thank you.
@@truthseeker0077 Not sure it's fair to say you are not getting your money's worth with that Lexus. Your money is just giving you different things. I say this as someone who prefers an F-type R. Just my opinion, and I respect yours as well.
I love the LC500, it’s a beautiful car and sounds and drives great. But compared to the F-type, it’s an old fogie car. It’s luxurious, but a bit soft. The f-type is a monster and a bit frightening. I’m 53 and bought a 2015 F-type R. I figure I should buy it now while I’m still young enough to enjoy it. Maybe when I’m 60 I’ll look for something akin to the LC500.
@@silentstormstudiosu made the right choice
Purple eeww not good for clothes or cars
Corvette is great. But really quite ugly. F-type wins.
The correct wording is not, " more wide", but rather wider,. And I'm sorry dude but the Corvette is ugly, it looks like some little children's cheap plastic injection toy. There is no reason to compare the two. What is this, Consumers reports? Because they are in the same price range we must compare them
Simply too plain. I’m a fan of conservative design, but there’s nothing exciting about the lines of the F Type…if you’re going for the Aston Martin look, then you need more aggressive vents; otherwise, you end up looking like an overpriced Mustang.🤪 The interior definitely needs to be updated.
You must be blind lol
@@kevinblanc1741yeah 😂
I’ve had a DB9 2009 and presently own the f-type r. The Aston was an awesome car but a maintenance nightmare chicken shit stuff like electric seat failures, parking brake lock ups and ridiculously price brake jobs, beautiful frustrating to own. My jag has been reliable, fun to drive , and a pleasure to view. Aston certainly has an amazing interior I had tan leather with navy blue, but it’s worth over 100k more.
I've had 3 xkr and 2 ftype rs.. just got out of the 5th lease iwill be buying my final f type r because that's it.. I'm 55 and if the end of my days are spent driving a black f type r.. the almighty above would still turn his head to see me pull up 😅
@@kevinblanc1741yup, as a bat clearly
It is a badass car. Looks like an Aston Martin. I definitely can't afford 120k, but I've been looking at used ones that are literally a quarter of the msrp which is totally insane.
Yeah, you can get decent mileage pre-face lift cars for pretty cheap. I actually picked up a well optioned 21' with 9k miles a few months back for about 30% off the build msrp. Not cheap still, but it's at market value at that point so you won't lose when it comes to sell.
F type is an amazing car - just do not buy new unless on lease.