Sinking & Raising Tall Ship "Astrid" on the Cork Coast July 2013 by karl grabe
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All hands saved on 24th July 2013 between Oysterhaven & Kinsale, Co Cork Ireland.
Photos on CorkCoast.com:
2013.10.06 Photos - close up of starboard side, rudder and propeller
2013.10.01 Video: Sinking and Raising of the Astrid. Oysterhaven & Kinsale
2013.09.10 Astrid being hoisted onto a barge in Kinsale harbour. photos Close ups of damage.
2013.09.10 Astrid Tall Ship Wreck arrives into Kinsale harbour photos
2013.09.09 Raising the Astrid photos TH-cam video at night, Astrid about to enter Kinsale harbour
2013.09.09 Astrid salvage crane arrives in Kinsale - photos LE Emer P21 keeping an eye
2013.09.06 Astrid salvage ships in Kinsale harbour & Kinsale RNLI lifeboat - first to rescue people.
2013.08.26 A month later - close up Photos from a boat & also TH-cam
2013.07.24 Cork Coast Guard radio - selected communications MP3 audio file.
2013.07.24 Astrid Grounding photos & youTube. Between Oysterhaven Kinsale
Extract from Wikipedia -
"STV Astrid was a 41.90-metre (137 ft 6 in) long tall ship that was built in 1918 in the Netherlands as a lugger and originally named W.U.T.A., short for Wacht Uw Tijd Af meaning "Bide Your Time". She was later transferred to Swedish ownership, renamed Astrid and sailed on the Baltic Sea until 1975. She then sailed under a Lebanese flag and was allegedly used for drug smuggling. After being found burnt out on the coast of England in the early 1980s, she was overhauled and used as a sailing training vessel. She was based in Weymouth, Dorset, United Kingdom and was informally known as "Weymouth's vessel".
Astrid ran aground off the coast of Ireland on 24 July 2013, and subsequently sank, with all on board rescued. She was salvaged on 9 September 2013, but as the cost of restoring her was too high she was scrapped and broken up by April 2014."
Such an incredible shame that they ended up scapping her anyway!
Surprised salvage team would even bother raising her? Too costly
It's always a sad sight to see a beautiful sailing ship founder. It seemed like one of the famous old Gibson photographs of wrecks on the Isles of Scilly brought to life, Thankfully no lives were lost.
I went on the Malcolm Miller sail training Tall ship back in 1981 between the 29th March and the 11th of April, i was 17 and it was one of the best times in my life that i have never forgot even though i am now 56.
Many years ago as a Sea cadet, sailing on TS Royalist we happened to share a port with Astrid, she was an impressive ship to look at and I would have loved to have sailed on her.
I helped in her conversion to a square rigger ... and was curious as to "where she is now" ... got my answer!
shame :(
Sorry,english isn't my mothertongue , do you referred to the ship using the pronoun "she" instead of "it"?
pumpkin91ful yeah, most sailers and people in general refer to a ship as she. Idk where it came from or why but most people do it
@@Disinterested1 Really, so was I. Ocean Village?
@@pumpkin91ful Depends actually, you can refer to a ship as a she, he, or it if you want. People normally call ships she. However in some countries like Poland, the ship's "gender" depends on the name. ORP Błyskawica(or lightning) is considered female because of the name. Bismarck is a male because of the name too.
Imagine going back in time and showing someone from(let’s say) the 1800’s this’d, they’d probably call you a witch or something, or that that is impossible.
Ahhh what an amazing footage, they way they lifted her up from the ocean!
Eva B. And then scrapped it.
Wow! great team and success! very impressed!
Fascinating video Thanks,, surrounding countryside looks like a beautiful place to live
1000 litres of fresh water was pumped into one of the four fuel tanks in Brighton. Tests after salvage indicated that the main engine had also ingested fresh water, without power the wind had driven the ship onto the rocks. The Astrid was deemed too expensive to repair and was scrapped.
Who was ultimately responsible for that major error? Deck crew or shore supply crew?
@@BigLisaFan - A captain will often delegate responsibility to crew members.
"The investigation released on the 21st January 2015 into the reasons behind the ships demise, found that the immediate cause for the ships grounding and thus its sinking was due to a loss of power from the main engines. Further examination found that fresh water contamination was the leading factor in causing a power failure; it was established that the ship had taken on fresh water during its time in Brighton a fortnight before its sinking, and the investigation blamed human error for a lack of sufficient action to rectify this issue.
Alongside the ship’s failings, the report criticised the initial ‘blind’ mayday call which was described as ineffective, costing the rescue team 10 vital minutes. Overall, the investigation deemed that crew were not qualified enough and lacked adequate passage planning, all of which were contributing factors in the Astrid’s sinking."
www.topsailinsurance.com/news/item/investigation-into-tall-ship-astrid-s-sinking-determines-vessel-should-not-have-been-at-sea.html
So often, inexperience is determined to be the root cause of such sad events, or at least contributing factors. Some seem to think that because sailing vessels travel so slowly, no training and minimal experience is all that is needed, and there is no licensing per se, unlike automobiles. That said, it's unclear what the cause and effect was that "connect the dots" between: taking on water in Brighton two weeks prior; fresh water contamination; which caused a power failure (water cause short circuits?); and main engine failure.
Marine engines use open circulation of cold sea water to in turn cool closed loop system of antifreeze & water mixture (or Glycol etc.) which circulates through and so cools the engine block. Unless the fresh water they referred to had found it's way into the diesel fuel - but even then, that occurrence is so common that sailboats have filters to eliminate water and any other debris from diesel. I'm no insurance investigator, but there is a bit of detail missing regarding what mistakes were made. And while it needs to be said that mistakes can be made by anyone regardless of experience and training, "old salts" seem better at avoiding problems (such as rocky shorelines), and dealing with challenges that do occur, due to practice and experience.
And a final thought, I have sailed Oyster Haven years ago on a 12' craft (eg. windsurfing) and my recollection of the shore line all along the Irish Sea was that it was quite rugged and "unforgiving" as the mariners might say it, with this being an example of just that. A paraphrase: "The sea is not inherently dangerous, but it is terribly unforgiving of any carelessness, incapacity or neglect" (anonymous).
@@softgoodsint The bit of land at the edge of the sea with sharp hard bits was also quite unforgiving and gravity too. How did fresh water stop the main engines? Lots of water in a fuel tank by mistake? More detail would have been as you say helpful.
@Simon Frampton yep
Sad , I was on the schooner " Pickle" when it happened and we heard on the radio
best detailed video I ever seen
no dumb background music GG
Very interesting. Thank you.
This was moving for me. Those men were not playing! I think tall ships are among the most noble of human creations and God knows we could use some nobility in this crass and dangerous age.
Spot on mate.
Great job! With the keel mangled and broken that is one fragile ship.
Great video thanks for sharing
shared many happy times with the Astrid crew...especially Brest 92...
i was part of JDL crew..x
great video.
I’ve seen the P21, she now serves with the Armed Forces of Malta and is the largest ship they own.
Excellent video..thanks for posting
I approached the wreckage on the kayak. It was strange, scary feeling.... There is a company/shop in Kinsale , they made bags from the sails of Astrid, suppose very unique ones..
I'm so impressed by what salvagers can accomplish. Sadly I realized the Astrid broke her keel in several places and suffered some major hull deformations. The salvers made a valiant effort to save her, however.
Wow. I was traveling and in Cork when this was happening.
no wonder it sank, those rocks shredded it.
Nice ship.
It is always a bad day when your ship forgets to float
if you forgot to pay the insurance, that is!
Lol
Yep! you can lead a ship to water, ya just can't mak'em float... ^_^
you folks all live online in a cocooned virtual world
Craigslist:
For sale - 137ft sailing yacht, lightly used. Needs paint.
Extras: Has proven herself as a submarine too
Haha. Nice
Nice job ref listing that ship. 👍
I heard that their going to raise the Bounty as well, their going to use a special crane barge named The quicker picker upper.
The Bounty was showing about 20' of Mastheads where she went down...the time to get her was "immediately" before the sea consumed her...but there was too much grief from the loss of life to think about that...funding at this point would be astronomical I would think...just my humble opinion.
Boat Axe Boo! Hiss!
++ maurice powers ++ Not sure if we are talking about the same Bounty here but as I understand it, in 1789 the original Bounty, as in Captain Blyth's mutiny was set on fire by the mutineers off the coast of the island of Pitcairn where they landed and eventually settled. No lives were lost in the process and the descendants of those settlers still live on the island today.
He is referring to the replica bounty built in the 60s. It went down in hurricane sandy a few years back.
the Bounty replica was a badly maintained wooden hulk that sank in 13,000 feet of water, there never was any chance of rescuing her.
Use the rig on another hull?
Fantastic job by the guys ,she is worth saving.
That ship must have been a beautiful sight in her sailing days.
So she was indeed - She came to the Weymouth Harbour Festival in the mid 1990s and her crew, augmented by Lieutenants Liz Lyon and Mark Lapping, (both of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards based at Bovington RAC Centre) acted a fun scene being boarded by pirates under Captain Gutbelly (all military from Lulworth) which ended with Gutbelly walking the plank and lots of staged cutlass fights in the rigging. Earlier in the week Astrid came round to Worbarrow Bay to pick us up for a rehearsal on a beautifully sunny day and we were struck by how majestic and beautiful she looked! After rehearsals and lunch onboard some of us who lived at Lulworth Camp dived in and swam to Arish Mell beach then walked home up the Lulworth Gunnery Ranges, having first dried ourselves in the sun while watching this wonderful ship sail back into Weymouth. Unforgettable sights and this always breaks my heart seeing her demise!
Great and experience team work . God bless you all dear. India Vasco da gama Goa 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Amazing video! I am an ex Merchant Navy mariner, and my Farther spent his final years in Kinsale, and now lies buried there.
My Dad and I spent some wonderful times sailing around those waters in his Westerly 29 whenever I would visit him. He was a well known member of Kinsale Yacht Club, and that is where we held his "wake". I was once introduced to the skipper of the "Astrid", although his name now sadly escapes me! I had no idea she went down. Iv'e been retired and living in SE Asia for 15 years now. What happened, do we know how She ended up on the rocks?
I remember your dad well from kinsale. Sailed his boat a number of times too. I was very fond of him. He really was a lovely man.
@@eddiesheehy3993
Thanks for that Eddie. Very kind of you to say that about my Dad. Did we ever meet by any chance on one of my visits to Kinsale? It's around twenty five years ago now!
Best Regards, John (Spike) Hughes.
@@doughlashughes3577 I don't remember meeting you. I left Kinsale around 1996 but probably hadn't sailed with John since 1992. I remember hearing of his passing and feeling very sad that I couldn't be at his funeral. I live in Australia ... I don't often think that way about but your dad was special. And I loved his stories. Being sunk three times in WWII. I presume you were the "salvage son".
Doug - its a pleasure to meet you.
Hi Douglas, it is my understanding she had engine trouble in Oysterhaven the night before. Instead of going well outside the sovereigns clear of land the skipper took her inside the sovereigns, lost his engine and was on the rocks in minutes.
ÓTIMO TRABALHO, BRASIL OK.
Great Vid!
Through out history so many tall ships lost. Very hard to sail.
we're going to need a bigger boat
Well done radiocomms all good
Nice video but they didn't tell us much about how it happened or when. It said it was lifted in 2013 or did it sink in 2013, or both?
nightlightabcd yeah I'm also confused about dates
What interest had the revenue in this incident ?. Looks like a revenue van on the pier
I wonder how much the salvage was, the repairs cost and what the value of that once beautiful ship/yacht/boat was. Financially was it worth the expense, NOTE the "financially" even considering the insurance contribution unless, of course is possible, they claim owner negligence and refuse the claim.
What has happened to the ship now and has it been restored
She sustained some serious damage, checkout the massive chunk of keel missing, no wonder she was scraped. Sad, really nice old boat
I could hawe fixed her up.
Anything can be rebuilt with time and money
Serious damage yes but she's steel, just cut back to good lines and weld in new fresh bent plate. Jobs a goodun.
Steel is best around the world, hit a reef, get her off and to any welder anywhere....
Theres lies here about reasons.
@@pikethree Thats what i am saying. If they really wanted to rebuild/ keep it they could of. Anything is fixable.
@@blowinkk9396 We had the keel come out of 40 ft Wooden fishing boat years ago and it was rebuilt. A skilled boat builder can carry out this work in their sleep. Look at Sampson boat co'effort. .th-cam.com/channels/g-_lYeV8hBnDSay7nmphUA.html
If raising a boat is refloating is sinking a boat unfloating?
Very insightful. But no, it's still called sunk.
That's a lot of marine growth - how long was she underwater?
Judging by the dates in the video only about 2 months max. Amazing how quickly nature takes over
I'm very confused about the dates, I agree it looks like 3 months in the write up but but I wonder if it's more like a year?
That's too bad, it was a lovely ship with many years to sail.
Many vessels have sunk due to bad fuel and the inability of crew to change fuel filters underway. This is a very neglected issue.
I probably shouldn't put it this way but , what jagoff managed to sink that beautiful bark?
apparently, the ship was loss due to an Engine failure as a result of fresh water contaminated of the fuel.
Good job.
This video shows exactly why I will NEVER willingly get on a boat of ANY size. Scares me to death, sinking under water..........
In 2011 I, my son and my daughter were passengers on this fabulous ship on the Veerse Meer, a short sightseeing tour rfom Kamperland to Veere and back again. It's a pity the ship was so badly damaged.
You could do w/o the wind and toddlers in the background.
John Cotter yeah bro who records without first turning off the wind and throwing children into the sea??? I thought the same thing.. 😂
@@danieldmyers it appears atleast 9 others would have done so🤣🤣🤣
the ship looks like it was under water for years crazy
Background chatting simply excruciating 😮…and quite frankly the whole video was informative overload 😂, all the data , info , insights 😅
Good job 👍
That was very cool
How long was she under? Looks like a lot of marine growth.
What the hell is that sticking out of the keel at 7:50? Looks like a black crows head or a giant crab claw.
Ridley Scott's Alien baby eating it's way out.
Part of the rigging?
RIP Astrid
Pretty boat.
It's so sad seeing a beautiful tall ship beached or stranded on the rocks like that.
I was working in kinsale at the time. I remember passing the emergency vehicles while I was travelling the back road to Crosshaven. I remember it coming into kinsale harbour on the barge it was a very ghostly image. Hard to believe it was that long ago. Edit. I was also present at the auction of the LE Emer when she was sold in the hotel in Carrigaline by Dominic Daly. Second edit. At 4:42 the MY Llanthony can be seen in the background. She was a Dunkirk ship with a very interesting past. The company I worked with handled the sale of the boat to a retired British army officer. I took her west to old court with Davy Hyde of Crosshaven and another gentleman for preparation before she was taken to England. We woke half of Kinsale at 4:30am that morning starting her up.
The direct cause of the ship's grounding was due to engine failure as a result of fresh water contamination of the engine's fuel, which occurred by human error when the water was taken on board in Brighton on 12 July 2013. There were 23 teenagers and 7 adults on board, consisting of 24 trainees and 6 permanent crew. Pieter de Kam was captaining the ship. The MCIB found a "catalogue of failures and breaches of international regulations", including unsafe route planning that was influenced by photo opportunities rather than following the safest route
How can an engine failure be a cause of sail ship wreckage? Such ships had been sailing for centuries before Rudolf Diesel invented his engine. Being an inland rat, I'm surprised that classic sail ship has an engine propulsion. To me it sounds just awkward.
@@uralicdneprov1806 Auxiliary power source, in case there's no wind. Also maneuvering around port.
Jeez that’s Hull is just battered
Just a wild guess, but I think it needs a new hull!
NAA just replace a few steel plates, easy peasy
jobbigt med båt
Cost?.........how much?
Bejeasus.....
A dive in it should be like a time travel.
@Geo Thomas just a dream...see a 'goonies' shipwreck with that.
th-cam.com/video/tQyWVxeukv0/w-d-xo.html
Is that actually salvageable?
Impressive sight.
a real beauty
So sad. They just don't make them with such lovely lines anymore....
I think one or two of you are not thinking of the environmental aspect of the boat its contents on a vulnerable coastline.
It must be beautiful as the boat wanted a closer look.
I see this ship corroded after the salvage.
*ACCIDENT INVESTIGATION REPORT:* An expert team of five marine engineers (one of whom had sailed on Astrid as a Sea Cadet) conducted a thorough examination of the ship and concluded that Astrid eventually sank on July 24, 2013 without loss of life when air within the hull was displaced by sea water.
Just going to keep runing that halfass joke in to the ground hu? Not very clever are you?😆😆😆
LOL Jimbo, seems like you just been had! I guess someone sent you to the Quartermaster to fetch elbow grease for the golden rivet, which would explain why you are so butthurt.
What's next the get me a box of grid squares? We get it you were the sailor from the village people.
jimbothedumbass + Seeing as you are so darned clever and know all the "golden oldies" how come you read my original post? LMFAO.
Jimbotheass Dude, I guess you were too drunk to remember plus your face was buried in the pillow, but I was the Red Indian whose turn it was after the sailor.
Very intersting footage of saving marine heritage!
It was scrapped in 2014, so not really saving it
LOL at 6.57, a tall tale indeed!
A bunch of clowns were sailing that ship, they didn't know how to sail such a vessel
If only we could revive some long-gone Navy admiral from the late 18th Century to watch this tall ship come up out of the water without even so much as a man breaking sweat.
hadn't noticed that before. an eel maybe?
I can only shutter to guess to final billing for the recovery of the ship, drydocking and restoration work to be done... o_0
that is a tough ship...
i bet captain hook was on that ship
Ouch.
we know the owner and his family very good, an they are good friends of us, i know in the first few days after she was at the bottom, the captain/owner was taking action to save the astrid , but the SHITTY gouvernment from there was not want help!!!! (sorry for my bad englisch, i am from holland) i hope piet and ineke that you are getting a new chanche to buy a ship,and make some nice trips again!!
Ursula Notebaart our government are as disgraceful, sure they don't care about anything unless they make money from it. Sure you can see that a revenue van was there seeing could they scam you into paying them more.
So first we complain that the government hasn't got enough money for defense, healthcare or social care, but as soon they don't want to spend multiple tens of thousands of euros (taxpayer that is) they're we complain about them being greedy and selfish?
Dude
Looking at the condition of the hull after being raised it was inevitable she sank. Needed more then tlc.
the damage to the hull came from being battered on the rocks, it was a fine vessel before she sank,
What? D'ya think somebody pulled a cork and it sank? That's damage from the rocks she was battered against.
All that effort, and then she was scrapped.
maybe she was in the way of the harbour and had to be lifted
it was in the worst condition possible.
Can hear a few scrap-men gibbering away in the background.... Moths too the light....
why didn't they anchor before they drifted into the rocks
Poor old girl. Very sad.
Yes, but only the mast, see pictures here: corkcoast.com/ohkTower/index.html
Lucky the lifeboats weren't washed up on the rocks as well.
the salvage team made it look easy tho i dont think there is such thing as an easy salvage.. no mention what caused the Astrid to be on the rocks....engine failure? navigational error? Fog? sea monster?
the first part you've mentioned was indeed Engine Failure.
She got beat up pretty bad, Did she get repaired?
sadly not, considering its condition, it was scrapped after it happened.
Ahoy there mate.🛁
Signalstat Steve Douglas nnnnnn
How old is the ship Astrid
Astrid had been around here since 1918, the accident occurred in 2013.
All ships are looking for a place to sink
Very impressive story behind the Astrid and a very sad ending. Going off Wikipedia many mistakes were made that ended up in the ship being pulled apart. For it to have been rebuilt in the 80’s and then scraped after she sank makes you wonder whether she was offered to the public or the insurance company just scraped her to get some money back.
Can she be saved?
sadly, it may seem unlikely, as it has now been scrapped after it had happened.