I went to high school with Jacob Varro but haven't spoken to him since then. Today I learned he is the premier lands pilot in the format :-P. Nice job Jacob
27:08 I like the idea of coming up with a name for cards like Nelson is about to describe. I would add budget includes, or a situation where you end up opening one in a pack and want to try it out. Some cards are just between slam dunks and trap cards.
Aren't the surveil lands able to mill your entire library with crucible fastbond which also puts a very specific crab out of a job now😂😂 and if you have two of the lands in play, you can endurance-proof your combo. Once you mill your library you can splendid reclamation 🤷🏻♂️. It doesn't seem to bad.
Both parts of this set review were great to watch. I enjoy the conversation covering a lot of "here's how we can try this" directions. Even if the cards don't work out after trying them, this discussion is enjoyable. Thanks!
I am excited to play Recon in dredge, opening it would be like having another Life from the Loam. i'll be playing surveil lands that enter tapped anyway!!
Dear God. I instantly remembered that Steel Leaf Paladin was the shitty GW gating creature from Planeshift. I know I am old but why do I remember the name of a 23 year old 4/4 First Strike for 6 that required you to self bounce? Why is that taking up space in my brain?!
1:03:55 When Serge mentions a closing segment, my eyes lit up for a moment and I sat up a little straighter at the thought of a new "Powerful Magic" segment. How wrong I was...
Undergrowth Recon feels like it was absolutely busted in testing, so they added way too many limitations. The card is a Crucible of Worlds that technically lets you get extra lands, only, they always enter tapped. It also feels like it's designed to be played alongside Spelunking.
I was iffy on Undergrowth Recon until I realized it's not a "may" effect, it's a mandatory return, so you can easily find yourself in a point where you accidentally have to return lands to play tapped that you would otherwise put back with a Crucible or Excavator. I would go so far as to say it's a nonbo for Lands decks and shouldn't be played.
Alquist seems good in Tolarian Academy or eggs decks, they can probably make white mana already for things like SevRec and Second Sunrise, and are probably making clues somehow too
On a future episode, I’d like to see you three have a serious crack at card designs you want to see printed into CHL. A meta-buster, or a key piece for a strategy that doesn’t _quite_ have enough support, or a new pet card
I mentioned this in another comment, but I was on the fence for it as maybe, MAYBE being a neat dark horse card for Lands...until I realized it's not an optional effect, and I feel like having to return lands to play in your upkeep is going to steal a lot of your Crucible targets and ruin your play. Maybe I'm wrong but I think that playing it is not just bad, but actively self sabotaging for Lands decks.
Comment copied from Part 1 since I literally made it over there 20 minutes ago lol: Thoughts on Cryptic Coat? I’m finding it a little hard to evaluate, but a bootleg half-True Name Nemesis, half-Batterskull seems like it at least has potential! _Ancient Tomb mana_ for the same unblockable power as Nemesis. Obviously way easier to interact with, but Ward 2 isn’t nothing, and getting to do the Batterskull dance with or even without Stoneforge and actually net value seems dece too
This is far from batterskull, even in decks that can optimize the use of batterskulls. It's a good unblockable, very powerful in blink decks, but other than that, it's neither TNN nor Batterskull.
That Carnage Interpreter looks insane, not sure how the clue(do) game is supposed to go but doesn't seem like its balanced against the rest of the cards in the same batch.
Can someone play that rakdos deck for a video, I looked up a list and blood moon with all those good black cards looks so fun. 4 artifacts, all your points, 3 enchantments, (fable, blood moon, animate dead) and 4 walkers (4 mana chandra, both 3 mana lilli, 3 mana obnix) Then great creatures, and interaction. So beautiful
I think pick your poison would have been worth talking about. I have no idea if it will be good in the format or not, so a discussion would have been great.
I feel like Drag the Canal is played in response to a creature sac effect. Suddenly their plan changes as you have a blocker and extra life to handle whatever they were about to do.
In my mind it’s better Altar’s Reap but you can sometimes play it off your opponent losing a creature too. Which doesn’t sound good enough to me to play but I don’t actually play Canlander.
Personally, I'm surprised that the power level of commons and uncommons seems so medium. They said that they would have risen those levels to balance limited with the advent of play boosters but it doesn't seem this really happened
Tbh I hate this constant Mono Black slander. I've seen your Mono Black mirror, those decks suck because you built them like crap, not because the archetype is inherently bad. There's a ton of card quality in black these days, you just have to actually put the good cards into your deck.
I'd like to see mono black win a tournament one of these days then lol. MBA is a fine archetype but it pales in comparison to Mono R, Mono W, Rakdos, Gruul, or Boros as far as aggro decks go
Language evolves by use, if boomer is used as a stand in for old, then that's what the word means. As far as use in this case, anything pre 2020 is pretty much boomer magic. FIRE era magic is just not the same game as it used to be.
Volume warning at 44:26 - I think someone bumped the volume slider for Serge's mic. Gets fixed at 44:38.
“Premier Lands Pilot” jokes have returned, nature is healing
I went to high school with Jacob Varro but haven't spoken to him since then. Today I learned he is the premier lands pilot in the format :-P. Nice job Jacob
No comments on Mole God? Must be perfect.
Perfect mole god sounds like a yugioh card
27:08 I like the idea of coming up with a name for cards like Nelson is about to describe. I would add budget includes, or a situation where you end up opening one in a pack and want to try it out. Some cards are just between slam dunks and trap cards.
Aren't the surveil lands able to mill your entire library with crucible fastbond which also puts a very specific crab out of a job now😂😂 and if you have two of the lands in play, you can endurance-proof your combo. Once you mill your library you can splendid reclamation 🤷🏻♂️. It doesn't seem to bad.
Both parts of this set review were great to watch. I enjoy the conversation covering a lot of "here's how we can try this" directions. Even if the cards don't work out after trying them, this discussion is enjoyable. Thanks!
What I'm learning from this episode is that lands needs to start playing amulet of vigor.
I am excited to play Recon in dredge, opening it would be like having another Life from the Loam. i'll be playing surveil lands that enter tapped anyway!!
Dear God. I instantly remembered that Steel Leaf Paladin was the shitty GW gating creature from Planeshift. I know I am old but why do I remember the name of a 23 year old 4/4 First Strike for 6 that required you to self bounce? Why is that taking up space in my brain?!
The same reason I remember that a Longswords Man in Age of Empires 2 has 9 attack and costs 60 food and 20 gold
You must be a magic player 🫡
1:03:55 When Serge mentions a closing segment, my eyes lit up for a moment and I sat up a little straighter at the thought of a new "Powerful Magic" segment. How wrong I was...
Undergrowth Recon feels like it was absolutely busted in testing, so they added way too many limitations. The card is a Crucible of Worlds that technically lets you get extra lands, only, they always enter tapped. It also feels like it's designed to be played alongside Spelunking.
I was iffy on Undergrowth Recon until I realized it's not a "may" effect, it's a mandatory return, so you can easily find yourself in a point where you accidentally have to return lands to play tapped that you would otherwise put back with a Crucible or Excavator. I would go so far as to say it's a nonbo for Lands decks and shouldn't be played.
I’m mostly an edh player but I would have bet the artifact land “Scene of the Crime” would have been worth discussion. Love the video though!
Alquist seems good in Tolarian Academy or eggs decks, they can probably make white mana already for things like SevRec and Second Sunrise, and are probably making clues somehow too
On a future episode, I’d like to see you three have a serious crack at card designs you want to see printed into CHL. A meta-buster, or a key piece for a strategy that doesn’t _quite_ have enough support, or a new pet card
I got the case of the locked hothouse in my prerelease deck and it it felt so good to play with.
I think on the trail is best in some sort of bean deck.
22:56 urzas saga amulet of vigor concealed recon is a healthy loop
Undergrowth Recon is the biggest heartbreak because its almost great but somehow just awful
I mentioned this in another comment, but I was on the fence for it as maybe, MAYBE being a neat dark horse card for Lands...until I realized it's not an optional effect, and I feel like having to return lands to play in your upkeep is going to steal a lot of your Crucible targets and ruin your play. Maybe I'm wrong but I think that playing it is not just bad, but actively self sabotaging for Lands decks.
@@Eskidell it's really begging the question of how much can a card be like Uro at home and still be playable.
Comment copied from Part 1 since I literally made it over there 20 minutes ago lol:
Thoughts on Cryptic Coat? I’m finding it a little hard to evaluate, but a bootleg half-True Name Nemesis, half-Batterskull seems like it at least has potential! _Ancient Tomb mana_ for the same unblockable power as Nemesis. Obviously way easier to interact with, but Ward 2 isn’t nothing, and getting to do the Batterskull dance with or even without Stoneforge and actually net value seems dece too
This is far from batterskull, even in decks that can optimize the use of batterskulls.
It's a good unblockable, very powerful in blink decks, but other than that, it's neither TNN nor Batterskull.
omg misread that as Cryptic Goat at first
You missed one thing about Archdruid’s charm! How dope the art is!
That Carnage Interpreter looks insane, not sure how the clue(do) game is supposed to go but doesn't seem like its balanced against the rest of the cards in the same batch.
I am curious when the base power and toughness rate measurement will be adjusted. Especially since there are so few vanilla creatures anymore.
Can someone play that rakdos deck for a video, I looked up a list and blood moon with all those good black cards looks so fun. 4 artifacts, all your points, 3 enchantments, (fable, blood moon, animate dead) and 4 walkers (4 mana chandra, both 3 mana lilli, 3 mana obnix)
Then great creatures, and interaction. So beautiful
I think pick your poison would have been worth talking about. I have no idea if it will be good in the format or not, so a discussion would have been great.
It can be really strong but not against players for whom you really need artifact/enchantment removal.
Real question, do detectives get swords as standard kit cause Lazav is armed for bear in his art lol
Serge called MH3’s 4 part review!
Serge's foreshadowing of MH3 4 part review!
I feel like Drag the Canal is played in response to a creature sac effect. Suddenly their plan changes as you have a blocker and extra life to handle whatever they were about to do.
In my mind it’s better Altar’s Reap but you can sometimes play it off your opponent losing a creature too. Which doesn’t sound good enough to me to play but I don’t actually play Canlander.
While I enjoy Hard-Hitting Question, I also like a supported Blizzard Brawl.
Hell yes.
I'm so engaged
Personally, I'm surprised that the power level of commons and uncommons seems so medium. They said that they would have risen those levels to balance limited with the advent of play boosters but it doesn't seem this really happened
Meow
@0:37 Why Wheeler look pissed AF?
Resting pissed face
So Kellan, right? Obvious "We finally broke X card" comment out of the way, I have 3 words for you, "The One Ring."
I'll let yall think on that one
Tbh I hate this constant Mono Black slander. I've seen your Mono Black mirror, those decks suck because you built them like crap, not because the archetype is inherently bad. There's a ton of card quality in black these days, you just have to actually put the good cards into your deck.
I'd like to see mono black win a tournament one of these days then lol. MBA is a fine archetype but it pales in comparison to Mono R, Mono W, Rakdos, Gruul, or Boros as far as aggro decks go
1-sided fight is called bite, not punch.
Now we’re calling Sphinxes Rev Boomer Magic? That’s only 2012, that’s Zoomer Magic. Boomer isn’t just a synonym for old.
brother 2012 is now closer to 2000 than present day. ur definitely in boomer magic territory. doesn't mean its bad though!
Language evolves by use, if boomer is used as a stand in for old, then that's what the word means.
As far as use in this case, anything pre 2020 is pretty much boomer magic. FIRE era magic is just not the same game as it used to be.
Even if it wasn’t based on age, boomer magic is slow cards that don’t immediately impact the board e.g. Sphinxes Rev.
Denotation is literally the best, but connotation is literally the best.
@@TeaGarrison it also works the other way.