That’s what I’d be worried about with the bigger pull strength. Getting it hopelessly stuck to something. 🤣 Also looks like if you’re finger’s in the wrong spot and you move it too close to a metal plate that could do some damage.
I think you are mistaken on the horizontal vs. vertical pull. It has to do with how thick the metal you attach to. If you lay the wheeler on the ground and stuck the magnet to the bottom of the plate it would stick just as well.
@@MBSAFCRKR If I attach the magnet to the same metal plate when the plate is vertical, there is some strength loss as opposed to when that same surface is horizontal due to gravity.
@@MBSAFCRKR Yes, I agree. The metal on the fridge is thinner then the cart. However, if everything is equal with the metal, a magnet is only about 30% (give or take) of it's pull strength on a vertical surface as opposed to a horizontal surface. magnet.com.au/pages/magnets-on-a-vertical-surface#:~:text=Magnets%20on%20a%20vertical%20surface%20(of%2010mm%20thick%20steel)%20are,shiny%20surface%20of%20the%20magnet.
@SuburbanAdventures oh, I see where you are mistaken. You are talking a vertical pull downwards on a magnet that is stuck. if you pull straight on the magnet vertical or horizontal, it doesn't matter. The reference you provided shows this. They illustration isn't all things equal..
Try that on your cart and I bet it’s still strong. The metal In the fridge is junk metal And thinner so this is not a fair test at all. It sticks harder depending on the metal thickness so cheap Chinese pot metal on a fridge has much less attraction for the magnet.
I did try it on the cart at the beginning of the video and I got it stuck. As I pointed out, the strength of the magnet also is diminished when dealing with a vertical surface as well
You are not following… put it on the cart and lay the cart down and u will still have a hard time even tho it’s a horizontal pull. You need to understand how thin the fridge metal is and less iron in it. If u put the magnet on and put a scale on the handle and pull up and measure the load it takes to come free then do it again the same but lay the cart on its side u will see there is not a difference. It has the same power on a straight pull, it’s when u angle the pull across metal that it will slide and be weaker or different metal. Not all metal is created equal.
@@nicholaswilliams5587 I get what you are saying. The thickness/quality of the metal also plays a factor. It kind of reinforces the overall point I was making in the video that it's probably best to get a stronger magnet because with so many factors at play, it's going to be the very rare circumstance when you get maximum connection on a plate of solid, thick, high quality metal.
That’s what I’d be worried about with the bigger pull strength. Getting it hopelessly stuck to something. 🤣
Also looks like if you’re finger’s in the wrong spot and you move it too close to a metal plate that could do some damage.
Oh yeah, you could really pinch yourself with those. You would definitely want to supervise small children with them, that's for sure.🤣😂
*Imagine it gets stuck like that under the water, like it sticks flat to something that weighs too much to pull out haha.*
Yes! I've often thought about that.....
This was very informative! You’ve definitely been doing your research. Looking forward to the spring adventures!
I'm getting eager for Spring as well
I think you are mistaken on the horizontal vs. vertical pull. It has to do with how thick the metal you attach to. If you lay the wheeler on the ground and stuck the magnet to the bottom of the plate it would stick just as well.
@@MBSAFCRKR If I attach the magnet to the same metal plate when the plate is vertical, there is some strength loss as opposed to when that same surface is horizontal due to gravity.
@SuburbanAdventures when my magnet comes in today, I'll do a video... the metal on the fridge is too thin.
@@MBSAFCRKR Yes, I agree.
The metal on the fridge is thinner then the cart.
However, if everything is equal with the metal, a magnet is only about 30% (give or take) of it's pull strength on a vertical surface as opposed to a horizontal surface.
magnet.com.au/pages/magnets-on-a-vertical-surface#:~:text=Magnets%20on%20a%20vertical%20surface%20(of%2010mm%20thick%20steel)%20are,shiny%20surface%20of%20the%20magnet.
@SuburbanAdventures oh, I see where you are mistaken. You are talking a vertical pull downwards on a magnet that is stuck. if you pull straight on the magnet vertical or horizontal, it doesn't matter. The reference you provided shows this. They illustration isn't all things equal..
@@MBSAFCRKR Ok, gotcha.
Yeah, we were talking about 2 different things.
Thanks for sharing.
I just wonder. Could you have turned the cart at it's side, so the metal plate became vertically orientated?
Yes, that would idea would've worked as well.
@@SuburbanAdventures As a child I was totally fascinated by strong magnets. Now I know about this quality, that feeling kinda returns! 🤓
@@priskilladeck4451 I'm glad you enjoyed it, you may be interested in some of my other magnet fishing videos then!
Try that on your cart and I bet it’s still strong. The metal
In the fridge is junk metal
And thinner so this is not a fair test at all. It sticks harder depending on the metal thickness so cheap Chinese pot metal on a fridge has much less attraction for the magnet.
I did try it on the cart at the beginning of the video and I got it stuck.
As I pointed out, the strength of the magnet also is diminished when dealing with a vertical surface as well
You are not following… put it on the cart and lay the cart down and u will still have a hard time even tho it’s a horizontal pull. You need to understand how thin the fridge metal is and less iron in it. If u put the magnet on and put a scale on the handle and pull up and measure the load it takes to come free then do it again the same but lay the cart on its side u will see there is not a difference. It has the same power on a straight pull, it’s when u angle the pull across metal that it will slide and be weaker or different metal. Not all metal is created equal.
@@nicholaswilliams5587 Gotcha
@@SuburbanAdventures I described it poorly but I figure you get what I’m saying hahah
@@nicholaswilliams5587 I get what you are saying. The thickness/quality of the metal also plays a factor. It kind of reinforces the overall point I was making in the video that it's probably best to get a stronger magnet because with so many factors at play, it's going to be the very rare circumstance when you get maximum connection on a plate of solid, thick, high quality metal.
You can never go to strong
Yes, I agree completely. Bigger IS better (unless you get it stuck on a metal guardrail, then it's problematic🤣)