Generally I agree with Windsors analysis. I do have an issue with his casting the blame for Norris losing the WDC seemingly entirely on the team. Oh, if only the team should have stopped Piastri and all that hand wringing. Where McLaren went wrong was turning up to the season and losing the first half a dozen or so on the trot so Max built up a massive lead. Maybe if they turn up to the start of a season with a car that’s on the pace they might stand a better chance of winning! As for Norris himself, Piastri didn’t make him drive off the track at Brazil. Piastri didn’t make him get bullied and out driven by Vestappen. Piastri didn’t make him fail to convert so many poles. Literally the only reason Norris was ahead of Piastri in Hungary was because the team put him there in the stops to protect him from the people behind him. If he’d actually been ahead of his team mate on his own merit then I can understand people being outraged.
To be fair though the points you make, while all sound points. They mostly still put the blame firmly on the shoulders of the team. Had the car been rapid at start of season, then surely Norris would have responded earlier in the season.
@ that’s a fair call. It’s definitely still a 75/25 split with the team taking a lot of the blame. I just think Pete glossed Lando’s role in the result.
I'd respectfully disagree about Lando. Lando didn't earn the right to win the Hungarian GP (Lando messed up from the pole position and Oscar was leading before McLaren chose the strategy that prioritised Lando over Oscar). Similarly to Monza, Lando messed up the start from the pole position, again.
its not about earning the right. many times when a driver is in contention for the wdc. you switch places even if he didn't do well in the race weekend. Lando of course had no idea what he was doing throughout his wild wdc challenge but neither did mclaren.
@ Playing a wingman role is very different to giving up a maiden win. The reason Lando gave back the position to Oscar because: one - Oscar rightfully earned the win; and two - Lando and McLaren needed Oscar’s trust for Oscar’s future assistance. Besides, you don’t want to be World Champion by asking your teammate to sacrifice their rightful maiden win.
Facts. Lando shouldn't have been in that position anyway. Why has Lando after all this time still not improved his starts? Why does he still let other drivers take the inside line into turn 1? I just don't get it. Why didn't Lando just push Oscar wide into turn 4 around Monza? Do you think that Max would've let Checo embarrass him like Oscar did to Lando in Monza? Lando has the race pace, qualifying pace and the tire management to become world champion, but he doesn't have the ability to execute when it matters most, and for some reason, he is just not willing to work on his weaknesses hard enough. We all know how much time and effort Max puts into (sim) racing. If Lando wants to beat him, he needs to put even more effort than Max into his racing career.
Amazing… i mean why would he not he is with a few others the face of the sport and very senior you bring it as if he did something extraordinary which i think this is not just good mannors would not expect anything else from a 7time WC
Some have said Charles is over-rated. I don’t think so. Carlos is quite under-rated. Charles has more natural pace but Carlos is the smarter driver. Very Prost like in many ways.
"IFs" and "Buts" Peter. If the safety car driver hadn't messed up in Miami, Max would have been crowned champion sooner. If he hadn't had brake failure in Australia, who knows how many points more he would have earned. Not every season goes to plan. All the drivers and fans have to accept what happens.
I haven’t heard anyone really mention Martin Brundle. I know it’s the least important or newsworthy event of the weekend, but I was so happy for Martin this weekend. I don’t agree with everything he says and all of his takes, but it’s always nice to see somebody living their best life and enjoying it. Last year Vegas treated him extremely well and that dude was glowing. This year Vegas doubled down and set up an extremely wonderful helicopter experience for him on top of a back country flight. This dude was a journeyman, blue collar driver who somehow got himself into announcing and developed quite the gig at Sky Sports. Now he’s being treated better than royalty and you can see that he knows how extraordinarily lucky he is and that he’s making the most of it. If you’re not into flying it might be difficult to appreciate how rare it can be for a hobby flyer to get to fly a UH-60 performing a special type of mission where they get to drop off skydivers over a major city in the middle of a desert and near the Sierra Nevadas. That’s a fairly big helicopter and it’s expensive to fly compared to smaller helicopters and trainers. Old Blackhawks are super common, so a professional pilot probably wouldn’t consider it a life experience, but it certainly is a life’s dream for a private pilot and an enthusiast.
He wasn’t a all time great by any means but a very good racing driver who’s career was negatively affected by injuries. He was still performing relatively well after his accident with 3 pedals compared to everyone else who was using 2.
I have a ton of respect for you, Peter, but I think you are wrong about McLaren. In Hungary, Lando was slower for 2/3 of the race, only the last stint was quick. If he was smart, he'd concede the positon ASAP and then re-overtake Oscar. Even that win would have made no difference though, I guarantee that at the end of the year Max's lead will be bigger than the total amount of points lando could have gained from Oscar.
Lewis in Q3 reminded me of Baku 2021. In prime position to get the maximum result with no real pressure and just makes an error. Two of them in this case.
If Lando was meant to win those races, he would have. The fact that the man literally cannot convert a pole tells you everything you ever need to know about the situation
@@edgardoMurnia why didn’t they say “a lot” when it means the same?? “To be fancy”??? I hope you do realise that English is spoken in more than one place and people in different places use different phrases 💀
PW still continuning with the "Lando should have won Hungary" BS.... love his new comment here "should have won Monza... should have had better control of Oscar's 1st lap antics".... PW mate give it a fcking rest please mate.... just come clean and be intellectually honest and say you are one-eyed only for Lando irrespective of the situation or circumstances! You lose credibility by continuing with this. Jeez.
12.50... that's almost a record for Peter before he gets around to having a grizzle about Oscar Piastri and how hard done by Lando is. Absolutely predictable 😂😂
Oscar fanboys are so butt hurt if not everybody's glazing on their idol like they are. Oscar has not even shown he is WDC material yet and this is the level of fanboyism in the f1 fanbase. If he actually performs next year and is able to compete for WDC, these rabid fans will start calling him GOAT.
@@yomamasohot6411 Are you projecting a bit? Lol. Lunatic clown. This is about Peter W... not Piastri fanboys nor Lando fanboys, but a guy that presents itself as more objective and impartial with more knowledge and "teaching us" about racing. And yet he's just a Norris fanboy when is about Lando
@@andyyoung6574 What kind of simping stupidity is that ? Hes is a fanboy. Wether you like it or not. And one woult think he wouldn't be at this point in his life
IIRC he did say in his 48min review video of Brasil GP that Lando Norris as a driver has not been worthy of this championship. (he was blaming McLaren alot also in that video aside from that so i understand why you would ask the question ‘Also what is these…’)
Balanced? He refuses to blame Norris for losing all the poles against anybody and blames McLaren (and Piastri) for the obvious major blunders of the "kid"
i suppose Max winning his 4th World Championship speaks for itself, yet I think his drive was probably on a par with Brazil - the RB20 was clearly a handful, yet Max was able to do what he needed to do and finish in front of Lando. Max was not wringing the neck out of his car, and he wasn't even thinking of challeging for the lead, he showed previously unseen matutity and even Prost-like strategy in clinching the championship. It will be interesting to see how he finishes the season. Thanks for your analysis and perspective on Lando.
Thinking about it it does make some sense that Mercedes were competitive, given the temperature. In recent years they did have a problem in hot temperatures, while being better in cooler temperatures. I was surprised McLaren weren't more competitive. Lando didn't deserve the win that the team told him to give to Oscar. He was only in that position because they gave him priority in the first pit stop when Oscar should have had it as he was ahead. Can't complain about team orders costing him when he was only in that position because of team orders. Verstappen earned his title with next to no help from his teammate whatsoever.
Sad to see how underwhelmed everyone is about Max joining the ranks of Senna and Prost and a list of 6 drivers to win a 4th WDC in F1 ever...oh and in the 3rd best car no less.
@cheezus4772 well maybe I can point to the fact Lewis never won a title in a car that came 3rd in the Constructors championship, maybe not even in a car that was 2nd? Not sure about that lady one and can't be bothered to look it up.
he won the championship in the first half of the season with a dominant car. Lando isnt a proper challenger. It was the most embarassing "title fight" the F1 media machine tried to manufacture. But he was the best driver this year for sure. Lucky for him that there where so many winners over the season so eveybody took points of everybody.
@daveruda he won 7 out of 10 races yes... But the car was only dominant in the first 8. And then he also won Brasil and managed quite a few 2nd places in the 3rd best car.. so it's very much a testament to the quality of he's driving this year.
Listening to you now it all kinda makes sense to me. Could it be that RB’s goal was always to get the drivers title with a low as possible finish in the constructors championship to gain as much development time as possible under the regulations? Could that be a valid strategy? GOAT in one car mister inconsistency in the other…
It was the low downforce rear wing, cold temperatures and the high tyre pressures mandated by Pirelli that helped Mercedes. Their best races have been on tracks with low temperatures and downforce such as Canada and Spa. I don’t think they will be competitive in the next two races.
Strange take on the Mercedes. It's no secret that that car excels in cold weather. Who knows why. As for Q3, Lewis simply locked up in his first lap and then lost it in the chicane on his second run. Nothing mysterious about it. Driver error. Congrats to Max, another master class in driving this year. Very much deserved 4 time WDC. 🏆
As highly as I rate Max as one of the fastest and skilled drivers on the grid, the fact that he failed so dismally to take the WDC challenge to Max until the last few race/races of the season will defile affect his confidence and psyche negatively. I think Russell is quite mentally tough but maybe not as talented as Norris. Leclerc is extremely fast and talented but needs a bit of an attitude adjustment because that trait is a prerequisite if you are going to challenge Max for the WDC over the course of a season. Lando is quick but too lacks confidence and conviction in his ability to take on a real challenge. Russell has most bases covered and even Lewis need to Man-up if he is going to go head-to-head with Max because against Max you will need much more than just speed, skill and ability likewise strong belief and aggression. Honestly, Max is probably the most formidable F1 driver in history. I mean the way he brushed Lewis off in 2021 when Lewis accused Max of being nervous as it was his first WDC campaign. And Lewis with all that experience and accolades and know-how of being involved in so many WDC battles before could not intimidate or unsettle Max at all even with the major car performance advantage in the last 4 races Lewis still came up short.
Given Max underwent Jos's psychological torture, nothing can intimidate him on track. Regarding Russell not having the talent like Norris, i don't agree with that at all. One of the only few drivers to win gp3/2 back to back and taking the fight to Lewis since day one in 2022. I'd say, of the post Max generation drivers, George is the closest to Max, then Leclerc and Lando third.
@ I think you could be spot on about that analysis, Russell is mentally tough whereas Leclerc is extremely talent and fast but very inconsistent. Lando is also so good but acts like a child.
Max didn't brush off Lewis in 2021, Max was cracking in Brazil and Saudi not to mention others, in this season we saw the same thing with Lando in US and Mexico, other than those dodgy performances i would say Max is a force
@@edgardoMurnia nope, its just what it is. Pointing out he only needs to point to the results without spinning some made up narrative like many in this world do.
Lando challenging max was a story line from the lame stream commentators that don’t know anything. McLaren weren’t going to take it to Red Bull or Ferrari
Sainz is completely justified. He was the faster driver over the whole weekend. Charles looked desperate by overcooking his tires and team radio tantrums. What an embarrassing performance
@ Leclerc wasn’t complaining- he was throwing a full blown childish tantrum. What he said last night was extremely immature. Peter is right. How can you be called a generational talent when you can’t beat your fired teammate and throw a fit when the team can’t help you pass?
Im all in on drivers racing each other on the same car (crash included for all I care).... BUT Curious take for Windsor considering he thinks McLaren ruined Lando and yet he seem to think Ferrari didn't have to help Charles when Charles is also N1 and better than Carlos in the same way than Lando is compared to Piastri By curious I mean he's an hypocrite
I think Charles’s emotions were built up and let out given he had obeyed team orders when Sainz is in front whereas the favour isn’t returned when he is in front. Mexico certainly played a part in this rage. Leclerc was in front on pace from the second stint onwards so he felt angry when Sainz ignored team order the second it was issued.
Congratulations to Jack! Great race but for me this race has illustrated what I believe will happen at Ferrari next year. If they can produce a decent car that can challenge for the championship I believe Lewis will be ahead of Charles (as Carlos was today). Charles still isn’t the complete driver yet (and maybe never will be) but give Lewis a competitive car and he’ll prove that he’s still got it. In fact I think Lewis is more hungry for his 8th than Charles is for his 1st, or maybe I should say more self belief.
Peter I am sorry to say that but do you really watch the race???? If you do play again the second pit stop of Ferrari and you you will why Leclerc was angry
I don’t care how hardheaded you guys are. Louis Hamilton is being sabotage! You can say I’m just a stupid uninformed American, but sky sports has been quoted as saying every time they go into qualifying. They tear Lewis Hamilton’s car apart. They also said they don’t touch George Russell’s car when going into qualifying. Lewis Hamilton will do well. Ferrari provided the car is good car.
The Papaya Rules was always correct - be free to race as long as you don't crash into one another. Looking back, the press commentary saying that Lando need to be gifted points and be supported by his teammate was absolute rubbish - Lando didn't want it and it upset the way McLaren raced. Next year we look forward to all drivers on the grid being free to race
Coulda, shoulda woulda ! Blah, blah, blah.... Lando 'The boy that couldn't' ain't it bro... He lacks race craft, consistency and backbone. He is not a champion. Max is. Get over it. Enough with the damn excuses. Max pulled off the impossible in a car that was not the quickest for 70% of the season. How about giving some praise where praise is due. Instead of coming up with all these damn excuses for 'The boy that couldn't'.. Show some class.
Shoulda woulda coulda. Give it up. Lando will never win a WDC as he can't race wheel to wheel. McLaren completely favoured Lando all year and he still got his ass handed to him by max. Next year piastri isn't gonna put uo with being compromised practically every race as he and the team knows Lando isnt good enough to win a title. If Zac tries it on again oscar needs to get the hell out of that team in 2026. McLaren are now harming Oscar's career and he isn't progressing as he should be in a better team. Webber's focus need to be on Mercedes, Ferrari, Redbull and Aston. Alonso and Lewis have only a couple of years left and one or both of Antonelli and Colapinto are gonna fail at Mercedes and Redbull. McLaren will never win a WDC as they make too many dumb errors.
I think the biggest difference was the weather. It was freezing cold in Vegas. Maybe the merc loves the super cold, dry air. Plus favorable winds down the long straight, which the mercs usually slow on
Normally we share similar opinions Peter but this the nth time you've spoken about Lando' lost points without referencing the points he lost himself, be it through poor starts or calling for tyre changes that were not needed (Brazil) or just his general lack of force of will. Lando needs to step it up a notch
Could Mercedes success have something to do with the 50 to 60 degree F ambient temperatures and how the tires performed for them? Can Mercedes learn something from this?😢
Hamilton with his "I should have won this race" is about as respectful as Norris' "luck" comments. Russell outperformed Hamilton over the weekend. After the first stint George went into tire management mode. Leclerc wore down his tires trying to grab Russell. Sainz gave Leclerc the second place at the start by pushing Gasly wide. Sainz got royally screwed by his team not being prepared for the pitstop. What's really shameful is that despite Red Bull bringing in the wrong wing, the McLarens could not even beat both the Red Bulls. Norris giving up and handing in without a single fight in his body. He's not championship material proven yet again.
@Atd340 exept that's not true, is it? George was fastest in all of FP3 bar one lap, fastest in Q1, fastest in the first run in Q2 and of course the entirety of Q3 due to Hamiltons mistakes. So to try and push the narrative that George all of a sudden found a bunch speed heading in to Q3 and is just plain wrong, he was quick all weekend.
@@brockside1575 There is no world where Hamilton wins this race without Pole. And George produced the fastest lap of the Qualys at the right time. That's it. There aren't any ifs. George was just faster
Stop blaming on McLaren for Norris incompetence! Stop being biased and recognise his limitations. Driving the best car on the grid he could not put a decent fight! Max won it in the third car on the grid!
Surely you read about the 3 more wins on Autosport forums? And still, Max would be ahead of Norris in the 3rd or at best shared 2nd car over the season.
Your analysis about Charles being upset is not correct. Charles got upset because he wanted to be 2nd in drivers championship and there was an agreement that Sainz didn’t respect. As simple as that. For Charles, Sainz leaving is the best thing because their relationship will not recover and fighting Lewis is the best way for Charles to get to the next level. If he beats Lewis regularly he will build confidence and will be ready to be champion
Max took it home, but very impressed with Lewis speed. Looking forward to next year, Charles is a one lap wonder, but he misses consistency, Lewis is still an absolute racer, his Sundays have been amazing even if rest of weekend would suck for last two years.
Generally I agree with Windsors analysis. I do have an issue with his casting the blame for Norris losing the WDC seemingly entirely on the team. Oh, if only the team should have stopped Piastri and all that hand wringing.
Where McLaren went wrong was turning up to the season and losing the first half a dozen or so on the trot so Max built up a massive lead. Maybe if they turn up to the start of a season with a car that’s on the pace they might stand a better chance of winning!
As for Norris himself, Piastri didn’t make him drive off the track at Brazil. Piastri didn’t make him get bullied and out driven by Vestappen. Piastri didn’t make him fail to convert so many poles. Literally the only reason Norris was ahead of Piastri in Hungary was because the team put him there in the stops to protect him from the people behind him. If he’d actually been ahead of his team mate on his own merit then I can understand people being outraged.
To be fair though the points you make, while all sound points. They mostly still put the blame firmly on the shoulders of the team. Had the car been rapid at start of season, then surely Norris would have responded earlier in the season.
@ that’s a fair call. It’s definitely still a 75/25 split with the team taking a lot of the blame. I just think Pete glossed Lando’s role in the result.
George showing Lando how to convert a pole
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I think Russell made a little pointer to Norris on Ch4 post race.
@@kevinprior3549 look no further than his PowerPoint presentation 😅 a few years back where he explained why he is the best of all the rookies
Landos last lap fastest lap was so pathetic lol
@@JaySamurai79 What made it pathetic?
Still crying about Oscar overtaking Lando fair and square in Monza is wild
I'd respectfully disagree about Lando. Lando didn't earn the right to win the Hungarian GP (Lando messed up from the pole position and Oscar was leading before McLaren chose the strategy that prioritised Lando over Oscar). Similarly to Monza, Lando messed up the start from the pole position, again.
its not about earning the right. many times when a driver is in contention for the wdc. you switch places even if he didn't do well in the race weekend. Lando of course had no idea what he was doing throughout his wild wdc challenge but neither did mclaren.
@ Playing a wingman role is very different to giving up a maiden win. The reason Lando gave back the position to Oscar because: one - Oscar rightfully earned the win; and two - Lando and McLaren needed Oscar’s trust for Oscar’s future assistance.
Besides, you don’t want to be World Champion by asking your teammate to sacrifice their rightful maiden win.
Facts. Lando shouldn't have been in that position anyway. Why has Lando after all this time still not improved his starts? Why does he still let other drivers take the inside line into turn 1? I just don't get it. Why didn't Lando just push Oscar wide into turn 4 around Monza? Do you think that Max would've let Checo embarrass him like Oscar did to Lando in Monza? Lando has the race pace, qualifying pace and the tire management to become world champion, but he doesn't have the ability to execute when it matters most, and for some reason, he is just not willing to work on his weaknesses hard enough.
We all know how much time and effort Max puts into (sim) racing. If Lando wants to beat him, he needs to put even more effort than Max into his racing career.
LH again showed his good manners by immediately congratulating Max on his 4th WC.
Amazing… i mean why would he not he is with a few others the face of the sport and very senior you bring it as if he did something extraordinary which i think this is not just good mannors would not expect anything else from a 7time WC
Class recognises Class 🫡
Not really, he was one of the few drivers who had to be asked/prompted by the interviewer
And I noticed he took his gloves off classy. Say that as a Max fan.
@duanecameronson You're not familiar with class huh!
Some have said Charles is over-rated. I don’t think so. Carlos is quite under-rated. Charles has more natural pace but Carlos is the smarter driver. Very Prost like in many ways.
"IFs" and "Buts" Peter. If the safety car driver hadn't messed up in Miami, Max would have been crowned champion sooner. If he hadn't had brake failure in Australia, who knows how many points more he would have earned. Not every season goes to plan. All the drivers and fans have to accept what happens.
I haven’t heard anyone really mention Martin Brundle. I know it’s the least important or newsworthy event of the weekend, but I was so happy for Martin this weekend. I don’t agree with everything he says and all of his takes, but it’s always nice to see somebody living their best life and enjoying it. Last year Vegas treated him extremely well and that dude was glowing. This year Vegas doubled down and set up an extremely wonderful helicopter experience for him on top of a back country flight.
This dude was a journeyman, blue collar driver who somehow got himself into announcing and developed quite the gig at Sky Sports. Now he’s being treated better than royalty and you can see that he knows how extraordinarily lucky he is and that he’s making the most of it.
If you’re not into flying it might be difficult to appreciate how rare it can be for a hobby flyer to get to fly a UH-60 performing a special type of mission where they get to drop off skydivers over a major city in the middle of a desert and near the Sierra Nevadas. That’s a fairly big helicopter and it’s expensive to fly compared to smaller helicopters and trainers. Old Blackhawks are super common, so a professional pilot probably wouldn’t consider it a life experience, but it certainly is a life’s dream for a private pilot and an enthusiast.
You underrate his racing career.
Martin Brundle was more than a journeyman.
@@HROM1908What racing career?
He wasn’t a all time great by any means but a very good racing driver who’s career was negatively affected by injuries. He was still performing relatively well after his accident with 3 pedals compared to everyone else who was using 2.
You sound rather disappointed with your lot.
Was"Could have tried harder"your school report? 😂
Seems like tyres are absolutely everything in qualy this year and the outlap is so critical
"Oscars antics" at Monza!
He is a racing driver Peter!
There SOLE ambition/ motive, is to WIN!
Come on, Mr Bias!
Their
its almost as if the objective of a team is to win the championship and should therefore tell their 2nd driver to not interfere
I have a ton of respect for you, Peter, but I think you are wrong about McLaren. In Hungary, Lando was slower for 2/3 of the race, only the last stint was quick. If he was smart, he'd concede the positon ASAP and then re-overtake Oscar. Even that win would have made no difference though, I guarantee that at the end of the year Max's lead will be bigger than the total amount of points lando could have gained from Oscar.
Lewis in Q3 reminded me of Baku 2021. In prime position to get the maximum result with no real pressure and just makes an error. Two of them in this case.
If Lando was meant to win those races, he would have. The fact that the man literally cannot convert a pole tells you everything you ever need to know about the situation
Great win by George and congratulations to Max next year is going to be so exciting
Lando made quite a few mistakes as well as McLaren
quite a few? Lol.
@edgardoMurnia fyi quite a few means a fairly large number
Peter isn't one to acknowledge that Lando is capable of mistakes. It's always the teams fault in his mind.
@@caro2501 Then why don't you say "a lot"? To be fancy? Because he made A LOT of mistakes. LIke a ridiculous amount of them.
@@edgardoMurnia why didn’t they say “a lot” when it means the same?? “To be fancy”??? I hope you do realise that English is spoken in more than one place and people in different places use different phrases 💀
The cold weather helped a lot too for Mercedes. Congrats to them and congrats to Max the 4 times world champion. Simply lovely😎
🇳🇱 SIMPLY LOVELY 🧡
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M4x Verst4ppen 4-time WDC. Absolute legend.
@@davidb9059 This is the wrong thread to share with us how you respond to your mirror image.
@@endthisnonsense7202he is just mad Lewis is bombing
Vettel is still RBs GOAT 🐐
Been waiting for this Peter! Cheers.
PW still continuning with the "Lando should have won Hungary" BS.... love his new comment here "should have won Monza... should have had better control of Oscar's 1st lap antics".... PW mate give it a fcking rest please mate.... just come clean and be intellectually honest and say you are one-eyed only for Lando irrespective of the situation or circumstances! You lose credibility by continuing with this. Jeez.
11:38 the math has been done Peter. 63 points lost for Lando this season, 30 of which were caused by McLaren, 33 by himself.
Peter gonna be real mad when oscar comes out the box next season and bodies lando giving McLaren no choice but to back him.
Maybe. His qualifying is terrible and I’ll be happily surprised if he can magically stop this rot in 2025.
Why would he be mad about that? The man is a septuagenarian, not a teenager
You managed to make a video about Russel into a video about Hamilton, as always.
He’s British what do you expect? Go and watch a Dutch channel if you want something else.
@@andyyoung6574 Russell is Britisch...
@@MrPatrickpiet indeed. I was talking about Peter.
12.50... that's almost a record for Peter before he gets around to having a grizzle about Oscar Piastri and how hard done by Lando is. Absolutely predictable 😂😂
Hopefully Land can have the fastest car from day one next season and win by 20 points and we can all stop hearing about it from Lando fanboys 😆
PW needs to give it a bloody rest already.... he is becoming more pom and a born and bred pom with his constant whinging on this...
Oscar fanboys are so butt hurt if not everybody's glazing on their idol like they are. Oscar has not even shown he is WDC material yet and this is the level of fanboyism in the f1 fanbase. If he actually performs next year and is able to compete for WDC, these rabid fans will start calling him GOAT.
@@yomamasohot6411 Are you projecting a bit? Lol. Lunatic clown.
This is about Peter W... not Piastri fanboys nor Lando fanboys, but a guy that presents itself as more objective and impartial with more knowledge and "teaching us" about racing.
And yet he's just a Norris fanboy when is about Lando
Max's remark to Zak. "But you said that I could only win in the fastest car!"
Max had the fastest car all year. F1 is worse than WWE.
No @@StopMediaFakery
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@@StopMediaFakery lol, nice trolling
@@StopMediaFakery Imagine actually thinking that without irony. I feel for you man. Take care. 🙏🏻
I still don’t understand Ferrari getting rid of Carlos and RBR not signing him
Who says they won't?
Then again, Carlos thinks he can be an equal driver next to Max. That's not going to happen.
You saw today exactly why RBR didnt sign him. He isn't a team player. He is a a natural leader, not a side kick.
@@askeladden450problem is he's not quick enough to be a #1 at a top team
Sainz Sr and Jos V. had beef when their sons were teammates.
@@jacob2808 i think he is better than lando overall. He could have been no.1 at mclaren.
Also what is these ideas about Norris and you blame McLaren ??? Can’t you see Norris is not worthy of a championship ?
Supreme fanboy. The fact he's old and calm and collected when he says fanboy reddit stuff doesn't change anything
@@edgardoMurniawhat have you done in F1? Peter can like who he likes, and talk how he wants. Go watch something else.
@@andyyoung6574 What kind of simping stupidity is that ?
Hes is a fanboy. Wether you like it or not.
And one woult think he wouldn't be at this point in his life
IIRC he did say in his 48min review video of Brasil GP that Lando Norris as a driver has not been worthy of this championship. (he was blaming McLaren alot also in that video aside from that so i understand why you would ask the question ‘Also what is these…’)
@@joostbankert4250 Yeah. He was blaming Lando as "not worthy"... BECAUSE HE DIDN'T FORCE THE TEAM TO FORCE PIASTRI TO HELP.
Oscar deserved both wins, and Norris had plenty of other opportunities to squander.
Vegas cool conditions was great for Mercs heat problem. They have had brake and tire heat problems earlier this year.
Congratulations Jack! 🎉 ⛳️
Congratulations to Jack! 😎 Thanks as always for your balanced and informed take on the race and the season as a whole.
Balanced? He refuses to blame Norris for losing all the poles against anybody and blames McLaren (and Piastri) for the obvious major blunders of the "kid"
"Balanced?" Ho, Ho, Ho.
i suppose Max winning his 4th World Championship speaks for itself, yet I think his drive was probably on a par with Brazil - the RB20 was clearly a handful, yet Max was able to do what he needed to do and finish in front of Lando. Max was not wringing the neck out of his car, and he wasn't even thinking of challeging for the lead, he showed previously unseen matutity and even Prost-like strategy in clinching the championship. It will be interesting to see how he finishes the season. Thanks for your analysis and perspective on Lando.
Dont get tricked by the delivery, just another Lando Norris Fanboy that basically blames everybody but Lando for losing this championship.
Thinking about it it does make some sense that Mercedes were competitive, given the temperature. In recent years they did have a problem in hot temperatures, while being better in cooler temperatures. I was surprised McLaren weren't more competitive.
Lando didn't deserve the win that the team told him to give to Oscar. He was only in that position because they gave him priority in the first pit stop when Oscar should have had it as he was ahead. Can't complain about team orders costing him when he was only in that position because of team orders. Verstappen earned his title with next to no help from his teammate whatsoever.
The upside for Lewis, he still looks hungry. Great drive by GR - Congrats, Max V
Revenge is a dish best served cold. LH and Ferrari may be the ultimate re-firing of Purpose.
Sainz is very good driver 😊👍
Sad to see how underwhelmed everyone is about Max joining the ranks of Senna and Prost and a list of 6 drivers to win a 4th WDC in F1 ever...oh and in the 3rd best car no less.
lots of LH glazers here, what would you expect...
@cheezus4772 well maybe I can point to the fact Lewis never won a title in a car that came 3rd in the Constructors championship, maybe not even in a car that was 2nd? Not sure about that lady one and can't be bothered to look it up.
he won the championship in the first half of the season with a dominant car. Lando isnt a proper challenger. It was the most embarassing "title fight" the F1 media machine tried to manufacture. But he was the best driver this year for sure. Lucky for him that there where so many winners over the season so eveybody took points of everybody.
@daveruda he won 7 out of 10 races yes... But the car was only dominant in the first 8. And then he also won Brasil and managed quite a few 2nd places in the 3rd best car.. so it's very much a testament to the quality of he's driving this year.
Red Bull 3rd in the constructors
Max 1st in the drivers!
💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
McLaren bottled this season
Max masterclass
It's only because Perez has been useless...any other driver and Red Bull would have won the constructors as well.
The best as always! You are the master Peter! Thanks for these videos!! Congrats to the family!!
Peter, I hope this is now the last of the so-called injustices done
to Lando - we know your views on that, but enough is enough please.
Lando would have never won the WDC anyway he is not good enough!
There's still two more weekends to harp on about it. Brazil should have shut him up but it seems he's turning senile
Carlos is peeking and he's being dumped in Williams, is the craziest thing I've ever seen
SLH44 > CS55, so Ferrari has nothing to lose here.
😂😂😂😂 he still isn’t anywhere near the talent of Lewis.
eh, still pretty inconsistent. But ofcourse deserves far batter than thr williams.
Ferrari will rue the day they finally realize Carlos in really gone.
@@Recon6deltaCarlos is younger, and looking better then Lewis these days 🤷🏻♂️
Ferrari made a mistake
Listening to you now it all kinda makes sense to me. Could it be that RB’s goal was always to get the drivers title with a low as possible finish in the constructors championship to gain as much development time as possible under the regulations? Could that be a valid strategy? GOAT in one car mister inconsistency in the other…
Well done Jack!
But you don't mention all of Lando's mistakes sir
It was the low downforce rear wing, cold temperatures and the high tyre pressures mandated by Pirelli that helped Mercedes.
Their best races have been on tracks with low temperatures and downforce such as Canada and Spa.
I don’t think they will be competitive in the next two races.
Asking drivers to let a teammate pass you for the win is ridiculous. I have always disliked this about F1. If he wants to pass then race and pass.
Shoulda, woulda, coulda. If my mother had balls, she would be my dad.
EXACTLY!
Hamilton really does need to improve his Saturday performances. Hope he does next year at Ferrari.
Congrats to Jack!👏👏👏
Strange take on the Mercedes. It's no secret that that car excels in cold weather. Who knows why. As for Q3, Lewis simply locked up in his first lap and then lost it in the chicane on his second run. Nothing mysterious about it. Driver error.
Congrats to Max, another master class in driving this year. Very much deserved 4 time WDC. 🏆
That was Leclerc worried about being Mr.Nice Guy next year and taking the opportunity to say no more Mr.Nice Guy
Congrats on the golf win!
Congratulations for Jack
As highly as I rate Max as one of the fastest and skilled drivers on the grid, the fact that he failed so dismally to take the WDC challenge to Max until the last few race/races of the season will defile affect his confidence and psyche negatively.
I think Russell is quite mentally tough but maybe not as talented as Norris. Leclerc is extremely fast and talented but needs a bit of an attitude adjustment because that trait is a prerequisite if you are going to challenge Max for the WDC over the course of a season.
Lando is quick but too lacks confidence and conviction in his ability to take on a real challenge. Russell has most bases covered and even Lewis need to Man-up if he is going to go head-to-head with Max because against Max you will need much more than just speed, skill and ability likewise strong belief and aggression.
Honestly, Max is probably the most formidable F1 driver in history. I mean the way he brushed Lewis off in 2021 when Lewis accused Max of being nervous as it was his first WDC campaign. And Lewis with all that experience and accolades and know-how of being involved in so many WDC battles before could not intimidate or unsettle Max at all even with the major car performance advantage in the last 4 races Lewis still came up short.
Given Max underwent Jos's psychological torture, nothing can intimidate him on track.
Regarding Russell not having the talent like Norris, i don't agree with that at all. One of the only few drivers to win gp3/2 back to back and taking the fight to Lewis since day one in 2022. I'd say, of the post Max generation drivers, George is the closest to Max, then Leclerc and Lando third.
@ I think you could be spot on about that analysis, Russell is mentally tough whereas Leclerc is extremely talent and fast but very inconsistent.
Lando is also so good but acts like a child.
Max didn't brush off Lewis in 2021, Max was cracking in Brazil and Saudi not to mention others, in this season we saw the same thing with Lando in US and Mexico, other than those dodgy performances i would say Max is a force
He did brush Lewis off in the sense that he cracked rarely. Put Norris in that situation and Lewis would have won the championship by Brazil already
@lowerlaptimes has it correct: McLaren are not a racing team, they are an engineering team.
And he thinks Lando is still not good enough on the racing skills... I asume you agree with that too
@@edgardoMurnia His thinking only needs to point to the results to prove it.
@@GonzoJohnny You seem to think I don't agree with it... Im going to clarify it. I Totally do.
@@edgardoMurnia nope, its just what it is. Pointing out he only needs to point to the results without spinning some made up narrative like many in this world do.
Ferrari made a big mistake letting Carlos go.
He is 60 points behind Charles.
And a terrible team player
@@khalidmartie5854 Due to a number of non-finishes beyond his control at the beginning of the season. Look at the qualifying stats.
Congrats Little Jack !
Making me wait Peter haha can’t finish the weekend without the round up 🎆!
Lando challenging max was a story line from the lame stream commentators that don’t know anything. McLaren weren’t going to take it to Red Bull or Ferrari
Sainz is completely justified. He was the faster driver over the whole weekend. Charles looked desperate by overcooking his tires and team radio tantrums. What an embarrassing performance
I find that Carlos complains as much as Leclerc, if not more.
@ Leclerc wasn’t complaining- he was throwing a full blown childish tantrum. What he said last night was extremely immature. Peter is right. How can you be called a generational talent when you can’t beat your fired teammate and throw a fit when the team can’t help you pass?
Im all in on drivers racing each other on the same car (crash included for all I care)....
BUT
Curious take for Windsor considering he thinks McLaren ruined Lando and yet he seem to think Ferrari didn't have to help Charles when Charles is also N1 and better than Carlos in the same way than Lando is compared to Piastri
By curious I mean he's an hypocrite
@@drewrip How he isn't beating his teammate? Charles is 60 points ahead.
@@edgardoMurnia Sainz is far closer in pace to Leclerc than Piastri is to Lando.
I think Charles’s emotions were built up and let out given he had obeyed team orders when Sainz is in front whereas the favour isn’t returned when he is in front. Mexico certainly played a part in this rage. Leclerc was in front on pace from the second stint onwards so he felt angry when Sainz ignored team order the second it was issued.
Sainz was on front most of the race, he wasn't at the time due to own Ferrari's pit stop blunder
Also congrats to Young Jack Windsor.
F1 needs a new tyre supplier.
Michelin or Bridgestone, just like in the Schumacher days
Agree
agreed
Definitely. Michelin, Bridgestone, Goodyear, any would be better.
Could it be Merc's car is built for no tire blankets in 2025?
Proud Dad, Wonderful News .... Worth the wait on our part, Thanks for all you do to keep us well informed - Truly appreciated.
Lando gained so much points because of Piastri giving him track position, he would not have been a deserved champion in my opinion.
Congratulations to Jack!
Great race but for me this race has illustrated what I believe will happen at Ferrari next year. If they can produce a decent car that can challenge for the championship I believe Lewis will be ahead of Charles (as Carlos was today).
Charles still isn’t the complete driver yet (and maybe never will be) but give Lewis a competitive car and he’ll prove that he’s still got it. In fact I think Lewis is more hungry for his 8th than Charles is for his 1st, or maybe I should say more self belief.
Wishful thinking much?
Russell really dominated in LV. It was the best weekend in his career i think.
Brilliant as always Peter !! And congrats to Jack 🏆
Next season will either make or break Leclerc. I suspect it’ll be the latter…
Class video as always
Peter I am sorry to say that but do you really watch the race???? If you do play again the second pit stop of Ferrari and you you will why Leclerc was angry
I don’t care how hardheaded you guys are. Louis Hamilton is being sabotage! You can say I’m just a stupid uninformed American, but sky sports has been quoted as saying every time they go into qualifying. They tear Lewis Hamilton’s car apart. They also said they don’t touch George Russell’s car when going into qualifying. Lewis Hamilton will do well. Ferrari provided the car is good car.
The Papaya Rules was always correct - be free to race as long as you don't crash into one another.
Looking back, the press commentary saying that Lando need to be gifted points and be supported by his teammate was absolute rubbish - Lando didn't want it and it upset the way McLaren raced.
Next year we look forward to all drivers on the grid being free to race
Team orders kill it for true race fans.
had he been .. had he been.. had he been..
Did we watch the same season? Your so full of contradictions and bs.
Should have, could have, would have.... but Lando didn't.
Coulda, shoulda woulda ! Blah, blah, blah.... Lando 'The boy that couldn't' ain't it bro... He lacks race craft, consistency and backbone. He is not a champion. Max is. Get over it. Enough with the damn excuses. Max pulled off the impossible in a car that was not the quickest for 70% of the season. How about giving some praise where praise is due. Instead of coming up with all these damn excuses for 'The boy that couldn't'.. Show some class.
Shoulda woulda coulda. Give it up. Lando will never win a WDC as he can't race wheel to wheel. McLaren completely favoured Lando all year and he still got his ass handed to him by max. Next year piastri isn't gonna put uo with being compromised practically every race as he and the team knows Lando isnt good enough to win a title. If Zac tries it on again oscar needs to get the hell out of that team in 2026. McLaren are now harming Oscar's career and he isn't progressing as he should be in a better team. Webber's focus need to be on Mercedes, Ferrari, Redbull and Aston. Alonso and Lewis have only a couple of years left and one or both of Antonelli and Colapinto are gonna fail at Mercedes and Redbull. McLaren will never win a WDC as they make too many dumb errors.
MERC knew their car worked better in lower temps..they said they don’t know why either..earlier this year..
I think the biggest difference was the weather. It was freezing cold in Vegas. Maybe the merc loves the super cold, dry air. Plus favorable winds down the long straight, which the mercs usually slow on
Next year could be the end of Max dominance but again Max could over perform and make the difference its going to be interesting
The W15 is one of the most bizarre cars I’ve ever seen.
Normally we share similar opinions Peter but this the nth time you've spoken about Lando' lost points without referencing the points he lost himself, be it through poor starts or calling for tyre changes that were not needed (Brazil) or just his general lack of force of will. Lando needs to step it up a notch
Congratulations to Jr Windsor 👏
Could Mercedes success have something to do with the 50 to 60 degree F ambient temperatures and how the tires performed for them? Can Mercedes learn something from this?😢
Las Vegas has turned out to be a good race. Lol. Its becoming one of my favorites on the calendar.
Do you think Leclerc is as much of a championship level driver as Sainz? Did Ferrari sack the wrong driver to bring Hamilton in?
Congrats Jack! 🎉
The difference between Max and Lewis is that Max is more clinical and would not have made those mistakes in Qualy !
Hamilton with his "I should have won this race" is about as respectful as Norris' "luck" comments. Russell outperformed Hamilton over the weekend. After the first stint George went into tire management mode. Leclerc wore down his tires trying to grab Russell. Sainz gave Leclerc the second place at the start by pushing Gasly wide. Sainz got royally screwed by his team not being prepared for the pitstop.
What's really shameful is that despite Red Bull bringing in the wrong wing, the McLarens could not even beat both the Red Bulls. Norris giving up and handing in without a single fight in his body. He's not championship material proven yet again.
Hamilton has been faster than George all weekend except Q3.
@Atd340 exept that's not true, is it? George was fastest in all of FP3 bar one lap, fastest in Q1, fastest in the first run in Q2 and of course the entirety of Q3 due to Hamiltons mistakes. So to try and push the narrative that George all of a sudden found a bunch speed heading in to Q3 and is just plain wrong, he was quick all weekend.
If needed George would've been much faster, the idea Hamilton would've had any chance is ridiculous
If you listen properly or understand people, you would realise Hamilton was blaming his quali 3 performance. He said as much pre race.
@@brockside1575 There is no world where Hamilton wins this race without Pole.
And George produced the fastest lap of the Qualys at the right time.
That's it. There aren't any ifs. George was just faster
Stop blaming on McLaren for Norris incompetence! Stop being biased and recognise his limitations. Driving the best car on the grid he could not put a decent fight! Max won it in the third car on the grid!
Misc: 14:35
2024: 2:16
Pet: 4:27..
Ver: 4:13
Surely you read about the 3 more wins on Autosport forums? And still, Max would be ahead of Norris in the 3rd or at best shared 2nd car over the season.
Wow, we are back to the Lando winge.
Vegas has been incredible two years in a row!
Hardly. It's a made for TV racetrack.
Every one congrats him . Every one see his greatness
Peter still moaning about Oscar overtaking Lando 😂😂😂
Your analysis about Charles being upset is not correct. Charles got upset because he wanted to be 2nd in drivers championship and there was an agreement that Sainz didn’t respect. As simple as that. For Charles, Sainz leaving is the best thing because their relationship will not recover and fighting Lewis is the best way for Charles to get to the next level. If he beats Lewis regularly he will build confidence and will be ready to be champion
Max took it home, but very impressed with Lewis speed. Looking forward to next year, Charles is a one lap wonder, but he misses consistency, Lewis is still an absolute racer, his Sundays have been amazing even if rest of weekend would suck for last two years.
6:04 almost like the only time Lewis wasn’t fast all weekend was coincidentally the best possible scenario for merc 🤔
Who would have thought that McLaren would have been so fast earlier in the season? Teams can make tweaks at any race. So, I'm not surprised.