congrats on getting married! also, I would definitely pick the grimy, treacherous, post-zombie apocalypse world that has better vibes + pedro pascal cuz I'm in the "here for a good time, not a long time" camp
Another few things that happened recently in the TWDU is using dead corn to make gas out of (main show season 9) which could actually happen. In fear the walking dead, they found multiple oil fields and started working on turning it to gas for their convoy. And finally, the Croat in dead city is making his own fuel by using the corpses of walkers to make Ethanol (that’s the simplified version lol). I’m glad they actually addressed that through the shows recently.
Congratulations on your marriage. Now as someone who came back to TWD in early 2023 to finish seasons 8-11, I can say you got a lot of this correct. I've already seen a comment on them making their own fuel. Yes, Eugene (the guy who was traveling with Abraham and Rosita in season 4) he taught them how to make Ethanol. So actually their vehicles run on corn fuel. Infact most of TWDU runs on the stuff. In Fear (a TWD spin off) they find a oil refinery in TX so they can actually make tons of fuel. You just gotta know how. You also got that Radiation from Fear, sadly the effects quit working after a while or not enough treatments as a young boy (actually related to cast members from season 7&8 of the main show) he succumbs to his bite late in season 8. Chlorine Gas has been used by the organization known as the CRM "Civic Republic Military" they are honestly like TWDs FEDRA. They are a remnant of the USA Military and their ways are completely totalitarian. You actually find put about them more in Fear (Season 6&7) World Beyond 🤢(even as a TWD fan it was hard to get through) and the newest Spin off about Rick And Michonne (my OTP btw they got together in season 6, right after you stopped watching) you find out about how the CRM operates. What they think of humanity as a whole, and our chances for continuing as a species. Pretty bleak in their opinion. Also Idk if you've rewatched any TWD when making this, but in season 1 episode 6 perfectly named, Wildfire. You find out from Dr. Edwin Jenner (last survivor of the CDC) that Wildfire invades the brain like meningitis. It caused vital organs to fail and thus kills you til the stem of your brain reanimates, just none of the frontal cortexes. Which explains why walkers have no memories of their past life. All of it, that was you. Is gone. Tbh, Idk id you really care but if you have any questions feel free to ask. I've seen ALL of TWDU shows now. Fully back in my obsessive mode with this series and faithfully awaiting Daryl Dixon season 2 as well as Dead City S2 as for TLOU, its game only for me other than episode 3. That I'm glad was awarded properly even if the Emmy's can get bit for never nominating Andrew Lincoln for his amazing portrayal as Rick Grimes.
this is AMAZING. I don't think people understand that my goal is always to get literally every detail right haha. I think people think I'm ruining the fun of the show, but my goal is always to honor the source material and the people who care (myself included) so I love all of this. Is the Daryl Dixon show good??? He was one of my favorite characters and doing this video definitely reopened my interest in the show. Also I'm happy for you that you shipped Richonne, seems like the Richonne shippers really won the most in that show hahaha.
When playing TLOU with headphones I absolutely shit my pants in every scene with clickers, so I would definitely not survive in this world lol But just the beautiful overgrown buildings alone would make it worth it
for the overall death rate there is also just the fact that TLOU has only one season (or two games), while TWD has gone on for SO MUCH LONGER, so they've just overall had more named characters to kill, which would bring the number up. Should they be equal in terms of content length, TLOU would definitely pull ahead in terms of # of kills
yes, the overall death rate on this was just cooked from the beginning. good point on this! I guess I thought going named dead characters as % of total characters still kind of puts them on an even playing field because both dead characters and total named characters would be higher with walking dead, so it's ran for much longer, meaning the total characters number would also be way higher if that makes sense, but again this is NOT a metric I would stand by for this video
@@GracieTalksAboutThings oh absolutely, theres no real way to fairly judge the amount of death simply due to the difference in time running. I suppose the best way to guess is to either average out how many people die per episode in just the first season of TWD, or if you want similar states then later on in the series when they're further into the infection like what we get for most of TLOU?
Congrats on getting married! Also, I think I've fallen in love with your channel. Keep up the great work and your channel is going to soar. I'm about to binge your whole channel while playing Minecraft
It’s not the bacteria of a corpse that causes you to die in 48 hours, in season 5 Rick gets a whole load of walker blood in his mouth doesn’t get sick, and I think it was season 8 Gabriel got walker blood in a cut eye and it only got an infection, but it didn’t kill him. Firstly, people aren’t necessarily just infected in the show, there simply just a carrier of a dormant version of the virus and that only becomes active once the brain dies so it can reboot it as a zombie brain. One of the the best theories I’ve seen is there is an active variant of the virus that’s only spread through bone and collagen that when bitten it won’t stay dormant waiting for you die it will actively begin the walker transformation while the host is alive till it kills them it’s self and then reboots the brain. Simply put from what I’ve seen theorized is the airborne version of the wildfire is dormant waiting for you to die to become active, whilst an already turned individual will spread an already active and non dormant version of the virus into your blood that will actively kill a person till it can reboot the brain. But that is just a theory I’ve seen I don’t think it’s set lore. However that’s what I choose to believe while watching the show so it can make a bit more sense. Also great video👍 I subscribed can’t wait to see your next video on twd
This is so interesting!! I posted on tiktok, too and people brought up the bone theory!! The dormant vs active wildfire virus would be consistent, so I like that explanation. I think that SHOULD be what's happening, that its dormant and the infection that the walkers are spreading is active and then kills you because they have the active virus. That would make sense to me. In the research for this, I read an article where RK had said it was the bacteria from the corpse's mouth, but there are so many different theories now I can't tell up from down. But this^ is good.
@@GracieTalksAboutThings There is the possibility that RK was talking about the comic lore, the wildfire virus works slightly different between the comics and TV show, because in the comics it’s a zombie virus from an asteroid that came from space, completely different from the shows explanation, so the zombies in the comics are carrying around some alien bacteria
I'M SORRY I SAID I WASN'T PROUD. this is my first ship to come to light now that I will be discussing ships and I was like OOOF that's a tough one to start with. lol in the show it was breadcrumbs, on AO3, it was a full thing hahaha
Generally they would cover sheets or something with the blood. But In FTWD Nick always covered his whole body in blood and ate Walker brain to get high.
@@GracieTalksAboutThings yeah, a main character in Fear the Walking Dead ate the nucleus of the brain stem of freshly turned walkers bc it’s pure adrenaline so he would get high instantly. It was odd and gross
That is so cool!! I had read the wildfire virus (which would be in everyone) did something that speeds up the the bacteria infecting you in terms of killing people quickly. I consulted a doctor who said if it was like toxic shock syndrome, it could in theory move very quickly. But I just looked up cytokine cascade and I think that's so cool, that's gotta be it
Hey Gracie! Haven’t watched the entire video to avoid spoilers of the walking dead, but I can tell you put a lot of effort into your content, if you need help with thumbnails or branding, let me know, it’s what I do!
I remember someone who's way smarter than me state that since the virus is dormant in humans but active in wakers, any bite/scratch or whatever received by them, causes two to have a reaction ( can't remeber that name of said reaction) but that basically is what kills the person + that nasty ass infection you'll be getting from a dead rotting person's bite. This isnt canon it was just a discussion vid that this guy posted (also can't remeber who it was lol) but made sense to me lol.
Hey, great video. I highly recommend you finish Walking Dead. It definitely goes down in quality after Season 6, but Seasons 9-11 are actually really good. The Spin-offs are hit or miss but I do think the main show is worth finishing! Alternatively, if you’re really feeling the franchise’s I would recommend you read the TWD comics and play the TLOU games. Both have much more depth and are a lot darker and more realistic.
I'll check it out!! There were deaths in there (don't want to say too many spoilers I guess even though this whole vid is a spoiler) that made me want to stop just because I was like well I don't have my favorite characters I was watching for but I always loved Rick, so I'll check it out
Hell I can’t wait for people to see season 2 and 3 of the last of us from the games but the last of us is definitely more dangerous and i think TWD show the only one can live a TLOU would from TWD is Daryl who else could live in TLOU world
On my god this is so true. I fully pick the walking dead to live in because the last of us universe is so crazy and aggressive. But Daryl could for real survive it.
I read so many different things, it's so hard to know, I'm thinking it's like a bacteria infection from the corpses that the wildfire virus (underlying zombie virus that everyone already has) helps speed up??? but yeah lots of theories!!
Tbh I don’t like this video simply because of the fact that you haven’t finished the walking dead nor have you watched Twd Daryl Dixon spin off, Twd has added variant Walkers to the show, they can run, kill other zombies etc , if we’re only going off of the first few seasons then I guess so can understand but it doesn’t make sense when we’re discussing if we can survive twd universe as a whole , when your missing out key elements
I'm sorry it didn't cover everything! It's hard because when I do these videos, I do really want to honor the source material, but I always give warnings that it's impossible to consume everything about a piece of media for a 15-20 min video, and I did really love the show when I watched it, so I wanted to talk about it! I'll research the variant walkers for any other videos going forward! Thanks for bringing up.
@@GracieTalksAboutThings yeah i always understood it as being 2 different strains of the virus. One is airborn, and the other is spread through bites. The airborn one only takes effect apon death, but the bite one acts as an infection and causes fever, chills, sweating, etc. Then you die, and you come back. Either from the airborn virus, or the bite, we dont know.
congrats on getting married!
also, I would definitely pick the grimy, treacherous, post-zombie apocalypse world that has better vibes + pedro pascal cuz I'm in the "here for a good time, not a long time" camp
Hahaha you’re going vibes, I like it!
Another few things that happened recently in the TWDU is using dead corn to make gas out of (main show season 9) which could actually happen. In fear the walking dead, they found multiple oil fields and started working on turning it to gas for their convoy. And finally, the Croat in dead city is making his own fuel by using the corpses of walkers to make Ethanol (that’s the simplified version lol). I’m glad they actually addressed that through the shows recently.
Oooh thank you!! Good info!! Yeah that’s fun they brought it into the shows, I like them making their own fuel
The worst thing in the Walking Dead is the living, the worst thing in the Last of Us is the advanced stages of infection
I like this. Yeah the infected are simply too dexterous for being zombies I fear I wouldn’t stand a chance
Please don't make me question the logic, the zombie show is just fun even though it makes me sad sometimes.
haha I hear you!! I only question it to have fun and do deep dives, love the show, destroyed my heart on multiple occasions
Congratulations on your marriage.
Now as someone who came back to TWD in early 2023 to finish seasons 8-11, I can say you got a lot of this correct. I've already seen a comment on them making their own fuel. Yes, Eugene (the guy who was traveling with Abraham and Rosita in season 4) he taught them how to make Ethanol. So actually their vehicles run on corn fuel. Infact most of TWDU runs on the stuff. In Fear (a TWD spin off) they find a oil refinery in TX so they can actually make tons of fuel. You just gotta know how. You also got that Radiation from Fear, sadly the effects quit working after a while or not enough treatments as a young boy (actually related to cast members from season 7&8 of the main show) he succumbs to his bite late in season 8. Chlorine Gas has been used by the organization known as the CRM "Civic Republic Military" they are honestly like TWDs FEDRA. They are a remnant of the USA Military and their ways are completely totalitarian. You actually find put about them more in Fear (Season 6&7) World Beyond 🤢(even as a TWD fan it was hard to get through) and the newest Spin off about Rick And Michonne (my OTP btw they got together in season 6, right after you stopped watching) you find out about how the CRM operates. What they think of humanity as a whole, and our chances for continuing as a species. Pretty bleak in their opinion.
Also Idk if you've rewatched any TWD when making this, but in season 1 episode 6 perfectly named, Wildfire. You find out from Dr. Edwin Jenner (last survivor of the CDC) that Wildfire invades the brain like meningitis. It caused vital organs to fail and thus kills you til the stem of your brain reanimates, just none of the frontal cortexes. Which explains why walkers have no memories of their past life. All of it, that was you. Is gone.
Tbh, Idk id you really care but if you have any questions feel free to ask. I've seen ALL of TWDU shows now. Fully back in my obsessive mode with this series and faithfully awaiting Daryl Dixon season 2 as well as Dead City S2 as for TLOU, its game only for me other than episode 3. That I'm glad was awarded properly even if the Emmy's can get bit for never nominating Andrew Lincoln for his amazing portrayal as Rick Grimes.
this is AMAZING. I don't think people understand that my goal is always to get literally every detail right haha. I think people think I'm ruining the fun of the show, but my goal is always to honor the source material and the people who care (myself included) so I love all of this. Is the Daryl Dixon show good??? He was one of my favorite characters and doing this video definitely reopened my interest in the show. Also I'm happy for you that you shipped Richonne, seems like the Richonne shippers really won the most in that show hahaha.
@@winterfire1097
You are goated my dude
When playing TLOU with headphones I absolutely shit my pants in every scene with clickers, so I would definitely not survive in this world lol
But just the beautiful overgrown buildings alone would make it worth it
I would follow Joel around and stare at those ivy covered buildings I hear you
for the overall death rate there is also just the fact that TLOU has only one season (or two games), while TWD has gone on for SO MUCH LONGER, so they've just overall had more named characters to kill, which would bring the number up. Should they be equal in terms of content length, TLOU would definitely pull ahead in terms of # of kills
yes, the overall death rate on this was just cooked from the beginning. good point on this! I guess I thought going named dead characters as % of total characters still kind of puts them on an even playing field because both dead characters and total named characters would be higher with walking dead, so it's ran for much longer, meaning the total characters number would also be way higher if that makes sense, but again this is NOT a metric I would stand by for this video
@@GracieTalksAboutThings oh absolutely, theres no real way to fairly judge the amount of death simply due to the difference in time running. I suppose the best way to guess is to either average out how many people die per episode in just the first season of TWD, or if you want similar states then later on in the series when they're further into the infection like what we get for most of TLOU?
Congrats on getting married! Also, I think I've fallen in love with your channel. Keep up the great work and your channel is going to soar. I'm about to binge your whole channel while playing Minecraft
This is so nice; thank you so much! And thanks for watching the whole thing!!
It’s not the bacteria of a corpse that causes you to die in 48 hours, in season 5 Rick gets a whole load of walker blood in his mouth doesn’t get sick, and I think it was season 8 Gabriel got walker blood in a cut eye and it only got an infection, but it didn’t kill him. Firstly, people aren’t necessarily just infected in the show, there simply just a carrier of a dormant version of the virus and that only becomes active once the brain dies so it can reboot it as a zombie brain. One of the the best theories I’ve seen is there is an active variant of the virus that’s only spread through bone and collagen that when bitten it won’t stay dormant waiting for you die it will actively begin the walker transformation while the host is alive till it kills them it’s self and then reboots the brain. Simply put from what I’ve seen theorized is the airborne version of the wildfire is dormant waiting for you to die to become active, whilst an already turned individual will spread an already active and non dormant version of the virus into your blood that will actively kill a person till it can reboot the brain. But that is just a theory I’ve seen I don’t think it’s set lore. However that’s what I choose to believe while watching the show so it can make a bit more sense. Also great video👍 I subscribed can’t wait to see your next video on twd
This is so interesting!! I posted on tiktok, too and people brought up the bone theory!! The dormant vs active wildfire virus would be consistent, so I like that explanation. I think that SHOULD be what's happening, that its dormant and the infection that the walkers are spreading is active and then kills you because they have the active virus. That would make sense to me. In the research for this, I read an article where RK had said it was the bacteria from the corpse's mouth, but there are so many different theories now I can't tell up from down. But this^ is good.
@@GracieTalksAboutThings There is the possibility that RK was talking about the comic lore, the wildfire virus works slightly different between the comics and TV show, because in the comics it’s a zombie virus from an asteroid that came from space, completely different from the shows explanation, so the zombies in the comics are carrying around some alien bacteria
BETH AND RICK WHY 😭 i need to re-watch the show bc i barely remember them interacting lmaoooo
I'M SORRY I SAID I WASN'T PROUD. this is my first ship to come to light now that I will be discussing ships and I was like OOOF that's a tough one to start with. lol in the show it was breadcrumbs, on AO3, it was a full thing hahaha
@@GracieTalksAboutThings sometimes breadcrumb ships are the best ships tbh 😂😂
how else would I have learned insatiable yearning at my young age!
Generally they would cover sheets or something with the blood. But In FTWD Nick always covered his whole body in blood and ate Walker brain to get high.
I'm sorry WHAT
@@GracieTalksAboutThings yeah, a main character in Fear the Walking Dead ate the nucleus of the brain stem of freshly turned walkers bc it’s pure adrenaline so he would get high instantly. It was odd and gross
I’m inclined to agree. That is INSANE. Wow. Ok adding that to my list of questions about this show
@@GracieTalksAboutThings the Daryl Dixon spin-off will add more questions!
I am equally expert in zombie virus lore and the love island franchises
Yessssssss welcome!!!! 🫡
What I’m learning is that biting should be consensual 💅🏻
the zombies did NOT get consent good point
Dude I love the walking dead, I heard the bites cause a cytokine cascade due to the introduction of bacteria
That is so cool!! I had read the wildfire virus (which would be in everyone) did something that speeds up the the bacteria infecting you in terms of killing people quickly. I consulted a doctor who said if it was like toxic shock syndrome, it could in theory move very quickly. But I just looked up cytokine cascade and I think that's so cool, that's gotta be it
Hey Gracie! Haven’t watched the entire video to avoid spoilers of the walking dead, but I can tell you put a lot of effort into your content, if you need help with thumbnails or branding, let me know, it’s what I do!
Oooh yes definitely don't watch if you don't want spoilers haha. Thanks for reaching out! Will let you know if I need anything!
I remember someone who's way smarter than me state that since the virus is dormant in humans but active in wakers, any bite/scratch or whatever received by them, causes two to have a reaction ( can't remeber that name of said reaction) but that basically is what kills the person + that nasty ass infection you'll be getting from a dead rotting person's bite. This isnt canon it was just a discussion vid that this guy posted (also can't remeber who it was lol) but made sense to me lol.
Wait yes someone else just said this!! This would make sense to me
Hey, great video. I highly recommend you finish Walking Dead. It definitely goes down in quality after Season 6, but Seasons 9-11 are actually really good. The Spin-offs are hit or miss but I do think the main show is worth finishing! Alternatively, if you’re really feeling the franchise’s I would recommend you read the TWD comics and play the TLOU games. Both have much more depth and are a lot darker and more realistic.
I'll check it out!! There were deaths in there (don't want to say too many spoilers I guess even though this whole vid is a spoiler) that made me want to stop just because I was like well I don't have my favorite characters I was watching for but I always loved Rick, so I'll check it out
such a fun video! i would also choose twd because stalkers are a NIGHTMARE haha
keep them AWAY from me
The walking dead ❤ only
haha so fair. which character are you rocking with in walking dead?
Hell I can’t wait for people to see season 2 and 3 of the last of us from the games but the last of us is definitely more dangerous and i think TWD show the only one can live a TLOU would from TWD is Daryl who else could live in TLOU world
On my god this is so true. I fully pick the walking dead to live in because the last of us universe is so crazy and aggressive. But Daryl could for real survive it.
I think the bite is like snake venom and it has to be the bite like a snake to kill you for some reason
I read so many different things, it's so hard to know, I'm thinking it's like a bacteria infection from the corpses that the wildfire virus (underlying zombie virus that everyone already has) helps speed up??? but yeah lots of theories!!
❤❤❤
Thanks for watching! ☺️
@@GracieTalksAboutThings You're welcome, this is the first video I've watched of yours, I liked your content 🎀
Amazing! Thanks for being here!
I'm dead meat anyway so I would pick the last of us
Tbh I don’t like this video simply because of the fact that you haven’t finished the walking dead nor have you watched Twd Daryl Dixon spin off, Twd has added variant Walkers to the show, they can run, kill other zombies etc , if we’re only going off of the first few seasons then I guess so can understand but it doesn’t make sense when we’re discussing if we can survive twd universe as a whole , when your missing out key elements
I'm sorry it didn't cover everything! It's hard because when I do these videos, I do really want to honor the source material, but I always give warnings that it's impossible to consume everything about a piece of media for a 15-20 min video, and I did really love the show when I watched it, so I wanted to talk about it! I'll research the variant walkers for any other videos going forward! Thanks for bringing up.
has nothing to do with the bacteria lolol
Apologies if I’m wrong! That was my understanding from the research but will update any factual errors in the bio!
@@GracieTalksAboutThings yeah i always understood it as being 2 different strains of the virus. One is airborn, and the other is spread through bites. The airborn one only takes effect apon death, but the bite one acts as an infection and causes fever, chills, sweating, etc. Then you die, and you come back. Either from the airborn virus, or the bite, we dont know.