Orson Welles and Peter O'Toole on Hamlet
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- This is en excerpt from the program "Monitor" (recorded in October 1963 at the BBC). Right around this time O'Toole (1932-2013) was playing Hamlet at the National Theatre, under the direction of Laurence Olivier. Orson Welles (1915-1985) played in this year a film director in "La Ricotta", Pier Paolo Pasolini's segment of the "Ro.Go.Pa.G." movie. He had finished his own film "The Trial" a year earlier. Other participants in the conversation are Huw Wheldon (the host) and veteran actor Ernest Milton (1890-1974). Milton was an American-born, naturalised British actor, who was prominent in the 1920s through the 1940s for his roles in London with the Old Vic Theatre and on the West End stage. In his day, he was considered an outstanding interpreter of Hamlet, playing the role several times in the 1920s.
The atmosphere reflect this progamme's original late-night timeslot. Unfortunately this recording (from the BBC website) is incomplete and has some audio drop-out.
See also "John Gielgud - Hamlet: The Actor's View - 16 May 1954" here: • Hamlet explained by Jo...
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Just a word here about my father, Huw Wheldon, who chaired this conversation, and who was the presenter and editor and generally grand panjandrum of 'Monitor' - he and Welles had worked together before, for the BBC, and OW was keen that Wheldon should be his producer. Dad wisely turned the offer down. He said that being in a room with OW 'was like being in a room with a cathedral', a surreal, but brilliant description.
That's genuinely fascinating. Thank you for sharing it.
Is there any chance that more of this interview exists?
Wynn Pierce Wheldon,
Your father was mind-controller. Obviously, nothing to be proud of.
'Monitor' - mon - moon - the left-side of the brain. He was only, programming the masses to use their lower-self. Actors, directors and editors and such are employed to train something sinister into to sub-conscious of the unwitting.
The BBC ain't nicknamed the British Brainwashing Corporation, for nothing.
Incidentally, it is also, called the British Buggering Corporation because it is full of paedophiles and other freaks. That's why there is a statue of a boy and a weird looking man at the front entrance to it's studios.
Your Dad was almost certainly, a Freemason (as they-all are) so, if you don't think I'm correct
realise, that their is sentence punishable with death for those who, disclose their sordid secrets.
Realise they are master manipulators and deceivers, which is why you are utterly clueless, I am sad to write
💙.
WOW.
I just watched your father's interview of OW in 1960 and it was brilliant. And I remember thinking so well that Welles enjoyed the interview and appreciated your father. You must be very proud. Thanks for sharing.
5:22 Welles: "I don't think any madman ever said 'Why what an ass am I.'" - this moment brought tears to my eyes for reasons I don't fully understand. Powerful words.
Study shakespeare and the great british actors. Its not just philosophy, its embodying life in all its permutations. Read about Harris and O’Toole. Believe me theres nothint wrong with you. Youre human, its the world thats growing sick. Men in this era understood deeply the literature and art of our history. You should too! Memorize some shakespeare
I should think it would depend on the particular mental malady. Certainly Donald Trump would never say it, but as far as we know he’s not psychotic; he suffers, rather, from multiple personality disorders. I’ve known (not very well, though) two schizophrenics, and I can imagine both of them saying it or something more or less like it.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen footage of o’toole speaking so freely or of Welles being so candid and gregarious. They must have enjoyed each other immensely.
I'm sure they did but this is about the 7th interview in a row I have seen on You Tube and Orson has been pretty consistently candid and gregarious in all of them. From young, mid, to old age he seemed to have walked a thin line between being very intellectual and yet very candid and affable.
Peter O’Toole was not only a great actor but also a true intellect.
At its most captivating in his assessment of Ms. Garbo.
@@mortalclown3812hahahaha 😆
Amazing! Was that what BBC viewers could encounter on their TV set in 1963?
Where have we come in 60 years?
This is a verbal ballet. I love it.
i.e. "I think everybody in the play is mad; Hamlet's the only sane one in it." 5:06
Thanks for the lovely image I now have in my head of Orson Welles in a pink tutu and points...
6:27 Seeing Orson Welles laugh always makes me feel good about living.
I don't know why i often return to the video to see him laugh out loud. So satisfying non scripted spontaneous reaction!
Yes
Personally, I was more taken with the twinkle in another man's eye - (and the gentle exasperation) as OW was guffawing in reaction to one of Peter's many elegant slam-downs.
Especially when they cut to the other guy who refuses to participate in such low brow humor lmao and then back to welles' contorted face.
Could someone exlain please what he laughs at?
Absolutely marvellous conversation just shows how dumbed down television and audiences are today! Cant stop playing it back.
Yes, I have watched it six or seven times.
Get over yourself
Yeah, I have a hard time imagining this conversation on modern TV, even on PBS.
Oh, lord. Have you seen the Dagwood movies? There was PLENTY of crap back then - and always. Just as there’s plenty of highbrow stuff now.
You can't stop playing this back? 😂 😂 😂 Get Netflix fast.
I love Peter O'Toole and Orson Welles so much.. so seeing them together gives me so much happiness. XD
Welles considered O'Toole in what turned out to be the Huston-role in the as yet unreleased The Other side of the Wind.
@@tomnovak9658 Available on Netflix at the moment.
Oh well... what a tool!
hysterical laughter.... drops to straight face, "Indeed."
Travis Rios hahahahahahaha thats hilerious
6:35 for reference
@@Herodollus I'm sorry I have a bad English I can't understand what peter o'toole said before orson laughed. Can you please tell me?
Actors are insane .. all of them
@@SLASHzoneYEAH raving Swedish lesbian! I had to look it up too!
I love the moments of silence ... unimaginable nowadays ...
Yes moments of silence so the mouth does not spurt out gibberish like nowadays. Dumbing down for 21st century wimps.
@@alexr2172 great counterpoint. I think both points are equally valid.
These type of interviews with serious people are so missed. This is absolutely fascinating and it’s so spontaneous and genuine. Just wonderful.
I can't even imagine any American actors engaging in a discussion this brilliant today.
Agree. Sad.
@@carefulconsumer8682 Why do you say “American” in particular?
I came here for Orson, but Peter O'Toole clearly could give a master class on Shakespeare--not just from the acting perspective, but from the philosophical, emotional, historical, and poetic perspective. I learned so much from his few minutes of commentary and conversation. The importance of letting the verse guide the thought and action, the relevance to the Renaissance audience of drawing out particular passions, the relevance of Church doctrines and belief to the interpretation of the Ghost. Wow! So much to chew on from such a short clip! A very learned man at only 31. I wish he was still with us. I wish they all were. I won't look at any of the plays again without considering O'Toole's comments.
Can anyone imagine having this on the bbc today? How far we’ve fallen.
These were the days when people wanted to be actors, not movies stars. And there is a big difference.
Spot on. Actors. Movie stars are incidental.
Great point and brilliant considering one of O'Toole's greatest lines from "My Favorite Year" is "I am not an actor! I'm a movie star!"
The greatest actors are movie stars too. Star quality is charisma.
Not true.
Actors pretend to be somebody
Movies stars pretend that somebody is them.
What a pleasure to experience Peter in his genius rather than acting the charming fool as he so often did in interview settings. To hear him speak of Hamlet, to understand all that he carried in his thoughts and knowing as he enacted the parts, is to understand why he was such a great actor.
This is what makes TH-cam great! Not things like tic tok or vine.
When I read Peter Otoole and Orson Welles having a discussion about Hamlet....wonderful!!
Incredible to see this glimpse of O'Toole's intelligence and education. Obviously he was a great actor but it's clear to see he knew his stuff inside and out and was truly passionate about it. Of course Welles could talk insightfully at length on almost any topic, but I hadn't seen O'Toole talking seriously about his work before
I'm with Orson
There comes a time in every man's life when he encounters the stark realisation that he will never be as cultured and articulate as Orson Welles
It's hard to believe that he's from the midwest in U.S.
At 6:10, O'Toole comments on Garbo's Queen Christina - don't know what's funnier, Orson Welles' breaking up or Ernest Milton's silent glare!
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I love them all together: Orson Welles busting out laughing, Milton's unamused stare, and Peter O'Toole looking around like, "C'mon, give it to me! Give it to me!"
Peter wasn't a homophobe was he?
It would certainly surprise me if I discovered he was.
@@quincycampbell9828 I think in this case his use of the words "dyke" is more endearing than it is meant as an insult. They are after all talking about a fellow actor(Greta Garbo), whom they no doubt, in reality, respected.
This is literally a meeting of the minds, captured on film. The way Orson & O'Toole discover they agree with eachother, those aha! moments when each one hears their own thoughts put into words by the other. It's lovely, the conversation really blossoms when they discover they're kindred spirits about certain elements of Hamlet. That it's documented on film is just one of the everyday miracles of modernity.
Seeing O'toole so young, sharp, piercing, is... He was a very different young man before all those years of living.
One of the most extraordinary exchanges I've ever witnessed ....
i've always admired and revered orson welles, but am captivated by o'toole's intellect as highlighted in this excerpt. what a freaking genius he was - and what a delight this video is to watch!
cynicalgirl67 - Yes. Until the booze took its toll! What a pity!
@@wiseonwords
Intellectuals and alcohol always go together and hand in hand.
OW was probably very jealous of PO.
It is not true that others follow the same path as you, Mylady
Shakespeare has a line to sum up every mood. My favourite is, “ When sorrow comes, they come not as single spies but in battalions.” Hamlet.
It's a privilege to hear this beautifully rich conversation.
Wow! How gratifying to see 4 very smart men (2 of whom may have been geniuses) discuss a complex and obtuse series of Shakespearean passages with such insight. They don't have TV like this anymore.
Paul Wardle - I think you chose the wrong word to describe the Shakespearean passages. Shakespeare was not "obtuse" and he didn't write obtusely. Perhaps you meant to write "obscure."
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What a gift to look at now that Peter is gone.
And Welles.
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Some temporal context for this intellectual and cultural feast:
At the time of this airing, Johnny Carson had helmed the "Tonight" show, over here in the States, for almost exactly a year; O'Toole had become an international superstar in "Lawrence of Arabia," one year earlier; Welles had done the same thing with "Citizen Kane," 22 years earlier; and the Beatles were due to take America (and, by extension, the world) by storm in four short months.
I love the delight with which O'Toole and Welles enjoy each others' observations about "Hamlet" and Shakespeare... did they ever work together? What I would give to see that...
To my knowledge, I have neither heard of, nor seen, the work of Ernest Milton, but based on his contributions here, I must assume that, as an actor, he was marvelous.
Thank you for this. Yes, it would've been great to see a collaboration between the two great talents.
Excellent perspectives on a delightful conversation.
As far as I can find, they never worked together on a film or play and our world is poorer for it, without doubt. However, they had a healthy stable of mutual friends (Anthony Quinn, John Huston, Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor, and John Gielgud being among the more notable) and so the two likely shared a dinner table more than once. Oh, to be a fly on the wall for those conversations, especially after a bottle of wine (or two, or three). Hopefully, the two are in the great theatre in the sky, splitting a humidor of fine cigars and whiling away eternity with the Bard himself.
Ernest Milton, by the way, was an Anglo-American actor who played Hamlet regularly on the London stage from the 1920s to the 1940s, and in his day was considered one of the finest interpreters of the Danish Prince. The list of actors who could have made a better third triumvir for this discussion is remarkably short; in their day, it might have only included John Gielgud and Laurence Olivier, and were it possible, perhaps the ghost of Edwin Booth (conjuring a spirit to discuss Hamlet seems doubly fitting).
Without resorting to gross sentimentalism, I wish modern television featured more stirring discourses like this. Look at the popularity of podcasts; clearly a market exists for fine conversation and expert discussion. And yet all our networks seem to produce is trite, sensationalized sludge. Thank goodness for TH-cam, preserving the thoughts of these masters for the interested and erudition-starved.
One minor thing I'd to add about the posting mentioning Johnny Carson. In The Best.of Johnny Carson 1970s-1980s, tape 2, halfway through, we.have "Huckster Hamlet" Johnny doing the To Be or Not To Be, constantly stopping to try and sell stuff. He says To sleep no.more... and pulls out over the counter sleeping aids! "The shocks that flesh is heir too..If you are having trouble with your shocks... and he pulls.out a card for car repairs..It's really not to be missed for fans of Hamlet.
What a flowering of popular culture that time was. Middle-brow culture at its height, and I don't mean "middle-brow" to be an insult in the slightest. It's a missing aspect of today's culture, where everything is either so supposedly "high" that it no longer has need for beauty, or is in the gutter, where beauty is mocked as something unattainable and therefore elitist and necessary to tear down.
Welles had the best voice of them all rip
It's fun to see O'Toole in his real element.
Damn, Peter O'Toole was cool.
I'd give a lot to get hold of this whole program.
Of these brilliant three, O'Toole speaks with a confidence that would be insufferable if it were not so clearly genuine and almost ingenuous that is he among them who knows Hamlet best as a person, as an alter ego, as a friend, as a sibling.
My *god* this is glorious.
+Jake Mabe Spot on.
This is nonsense! 3 drunks.
They never became drinkers until much later my dear. It is clear that, at this point (Oct. '63), they are bright, and their memories are functioning wonderfully in their primes. The stress and drinking that ravaged all of the great actors during this period, was just a ways off.
@@lynnmiller3937 Your envy is showing, my dear.
They all talk so proper. No one talks like that any more... shame.
and they worked on some amazingly kick4ss, brilliant film projects btw ;-)
That's because no one talks about Hamlet on television anymore.
KenKen3593 I don't think the reason they speak so clearly is because of the pressure of appearing on TV or anything associated with it for that manner. I think it's more to do with appealing to the common denominator in TV and dumbing everything down, instead of speaking to your audience as if they had some understanding of what you were saying.
Especially when O'Toole called Greta Garbo a "raving Svenska dyke".
zipher123 I think the modern problem of TV you are describing is the incessant need for laughs brought about by the 'Late night' comedic host, which has infiltrated all TV interviewing and talk shows. It is about narcissistic promotion and forced comedy, which is why we can't have nice things like this. Actors roundtable comes rather close though, as does one on one director interviews.
what a wonderful insight analysis on HAMLET ... THANK YOU FOR UP-LOADING THIS JEWEL ..
it's just so satisfying how Peter and Orson are so in sync....they really enjoy each others company and it's almost like the other 2 are school professors and their the bad students.
At times Welles does overdominate the conversation but he certianly seems to like and appreciate O'Toole's thoughts.
Yes Orson is a beast of knowledge and domination. I agree he likes O'Toole's thoughts and company; that's an achievement, as Orson had zero tolerance for the weak minded.
Paul Baran The Orson can have a powerful influence on the weak-minded
well you could look at him in this way. The 'War of the Wars' was definitely a case of that. He was a control freak and perfectionist that influenced stanley Kubrick with that tendency, a monomania.
He's freakin' Orson Welles, pal
TheBritomart I'm a fan of Orson Welles.He is the greatest motion picture director of all time...
6:25 Orson Welles' laugh... gets me everytime.
I have listened to this many times, watched or read Hamlet, and watched this again. What a rare and superb nugget to have survived on film and made it to the electronic archives. These two are probably the premier Shakespearean actors of their time (yes, I really believe so), and their observations helped my really understand Hamlet for the first time.
God I wish somebody could post the full discussion
Elegant way of speech, fascinating conversations, and THESE TWO PEOPLE IN THE SAME ROOM?!!!! Thank you internet for this...for a way I can live in a beautiful past.
Man... mainstream TV's discourse has really gone downhill since 1963.
Downhill? The floor beneath it has concaved!
What makes you think THIS was “mainstream TV”
It was on BBC One and ran for many years. This was Mainstream TV.
Do you mean that Dancing with the Stars, American Idol, and Let's Make a Deal are the bottom of the barrel? Why I'm shocked!
@@viracocha A show like this would never get network time today. And even when one compares late-night tv shows like Johnny Carson to Jimmy Kimmel (and all the rest) you will notice the same disparity in quality.
Orson was a raconteur. There are few of any like him alive today.
He was truly the most interesting man in the world and we have nothing remotely equal to his greatness today, much to our detriment.
Just found this! An American of fierce intelligence and love of Shakespeare , an Anglo/Irish actor of equally dedicated love, an Anglo/American actor with a life spent in the glory of the Bard. Bliss!
Was O'Toole Anglo-irish? Think he was simply Irish. Carson once said to him "You're English" (what an idiot) and Peter had to correct him!
@@linshanhsiang Well his mother was Scottish, his father was Irish but he was born in Leeds in England. So yes, Anglo/Irish. (Whatever yarn he span Carson).
@@pedelibero Being born on English soil does not make you English. And "Anglo Irish" has a precise meaning, that is, a descendant of English settlers on Irish soil who did not intermarry with native Irish. Look it up. And could a name be more Irish than "O'Toole"?
@@linshanhsiang'Anglo Irish’ does not just mean 'a descendant of English settlers on Irish soil'. The trouble with people like you is you look something up on Wikipedia and think you’ve done the research. Unlike you I am Irish and I get very tired of English people like O’Toole claiming they are Irish born when they’re not. To quote a headline in the Irish Independent ‘O'Toole's claims of Irish roots are blarney’. If you don’t know what ‘blarney’ means, look it up. PS having an Irish surname doesn’t make you Irish, that’s a fantasy indulged in by Yanks.
@@pedelibero "People like me"? You assume I base my remarks on Wikipedia, when they are actually based on years of reading about the Anglo-irish. Dictionaries support my contention that "Anglo-Irish" as a noun refers to descendants of English settled in Ireland. Second meaning is adjectival, referring to a treaty between the countries.
Additionally, there is no reason to doubt that O'Tooles father was from Ireland. His mother may have been Scottish but archeologists tell us that the Irish settled Scotland in ancient times, eventually intermarrying with the native Picts, so Scots have the right to claim they are of Irish descent.
You seem to support your opinion on a newspaper article. Well, we all know how much they are worth. Mostly good for lining the birdcage.
This should become a national treasure
When intellect and art meet, good things happen.
Lovely Peter o Toole with spectacles,,, ❤️
"He must have been a great actor.... He must have been a great actor" The look on Peter's face - Truly brilliant!
One of the best discussions about Shakespeare and Hamlet ever. Peter O'Toole is on fire. Orson Welles is a great foil.
What good fortune to come across this film. The finesse of these two then young actors - two geniuses with their langourous-like charm and tremendous spontaneity/passion and cheek/humour. This is a real discussion and very enriching. The two old fogeys are out of their depth in terms of personality. Who's like these two today I wonder ?
Can you imagine a round table with Robert DiNiro, Lee Marvin, Warren Oats and Andy Warhol (he was a movie director)? I have seen them all on TV separately. Excruciating.
I'm pretty sure a round table with those four would be anything but excruciating - on the right day.
peter said , around these years that Hamlet was difficult to play, and he found him confusing to play at times and felt he couldnt play him.
but boy, the intelligence they have about hamlet, or even Shakespeare is outstanding
There just aren't any personalities like Welles anymore. Shame. Thank God for TH-cam.
How the hell did I not know about this?! This is heaven.
A must for school students doing Hamlet. Also, I didn’t know The Ghost was originally played by WS himself!
Wow, Peter O'Toole comes across as very profound here; impressed to the nines.
Enjoyed that thoroughly. Made me consider Hamlet in an entirely new way. O'Toole was such a brilliant man. I would have loved to have seen Richard Burton seated at that table. He too had a deep appreciation for Shakespeare.
wouldve been friction between him and Welles, Welles didn't like him one bit
Richard Burton would have loved this debate...
Burton? no way, I would love to have had Shakespeare himself there to clarify what these guys are talking about cus I don't have a
clue.
I could listen to them talking about a paper clip.
(Laughs uproariously for 20 seconds) Indeed.
I agree. These men are brilliant.
o toole, rising above the other members of the show, shows his gift of eloquence...beautiful
"This discussion is going to wallow in agreement." It certainly did, and is all the more wonderful and revelatory for it.
What a treat to listen to two of my favorite actors discuss with such aplomb and humor about a great play like Hamlet. How brilliant they were.
APLOMB? dont even try
I could listen to them speak about this for days and never get tired of it.
Orson, Peter, I love you!
Tragically the ending is missing.
How amazingly O'Tool talks about passion and human instinct and passion, how beautifully expressed and joy gets completed when Wells just talks with that tenor voice!
I feel so privelaged listening to this conversation. This is so special to hear these giants among men talk with one another nonchalantly.
I'd like to put in a good word or three for Ernest Milton. I think his observations about Hamlet were as valid as Welles's and O'Toole's, strengthened by his experience with the play (portraying Hamlet and the Ghost).
Thank you so much for this wonderful fragment. The loss of Peter O'Toole is the one that saddens me most.
It's a shame that TV doesn't do shows like this anymore. OW and PO are two icons of cinema and also of universal culture.
This conversation is more interesting than many a movie made last year or this year. God to have been there, with a bottle of wine and cigg and then carried on the discussion into the early hours. Lets talk about Nietzsche next and Greek tragedy.i wouldn't need the wine I'd be drunk on the words and the ideas.
I can listen this over and over.
Fascinating discussion, and so painfully cut short at the end.
Fantastic! Why aren't there chat shows like this anymore? So interesting to see the two different generations take on Hamlet. Just great and isn't O'Toole just about as handsome as a man can be?
Noel Coward described him as Florence of Arabia.
You should see O'Toole' features prior to his nose job! What a difference even early plastic surgery made, but then again it's all subjective.
Always had a 'crush' on him, even as a very young woman. I wish the drinking didn't have to have been such a big part of his life. It killed me when he died.
@John Osman I'm American, and over several decades have taped on VHS over 20 operas, not all from the Met, also on the telly dramas of Ibsen like A Doll's House, Hedda Gabbler, The Master Builder, Euripides' Antigone... You also might want to study videos on very early radio. Clips of poetry readings to the strains of classical music, for the radio, come to mind. What radio became was the original soap operas, detective shows, westerns. The same high hopes you mentioned for TV existed also for radio, which of course didn't materialize. And if the public REALLY enjoys the mind- numbing garbage that dominates it, how do you explain how Frasier reached the top of the ratings for over a decade?( Catch the Frasier show with Derek Jacobi's guest performance as the ultra hammy Shakespearean actor, for which he won an Emmy)
esp in Lawrence of Arabia maybe the most beautiful man ever.
Wow, this is wonderful; I had no idea this existed. A true gem to watch and hear these legends.
Wow. Peter O'Toole and Orson Welles giggling. Beautiful Bromance.
It's wonderful to see how brilliant Peter O'Toole could be when he wasn't drunk. So marvellous to see and hear this conversation.
Reviving this comment stream entirely because Peter O'Toole understands something profound at 15:33 about how Shakespeare understood the passions. Through his character Hamlet (named almost after his dead son) he communicated how potent grief could become a trap for the human soul. Peter O'Toole's impassioned reading and analysis of Thomas More, and sadly for us, the archive gets odd splits in the tape, but still: Peter O-Toole has caught something in the creation of Hamlet (the character) in his contrast to Laertes and Fortinbras that was missed by his elders.
I feel Charles Chaplin and Orson Welles were the 20th century's reigning "prodigies"....true geniuses in every aspect of the arts
Find the end......fascinating insight and exquisite use of a long forgotten language, English.
I wish we could have more mature shows like this.
I wish we could have more people like these!! actors, writers directors id give anything to have a conversation with Orson Welles or Peter O' Toole, so interesting
The speed of Hamlet's thoughts, that rapid speed, brings to mind St. Paul's letters, where he goes quickly from one truth to another, rarely staying to one alone.
Welles on whether Hamlet is insane or not: "I don't think any madman ever said, "Oh what an ass am I'".
Never seen Peter O'Toole as sober (or maybe as serious) as this.. What a pleasure! ...
Masters of the screen and stage, great conversation!!
Thank you for posting this treat. It's great to see a conversation with Peter O'Toole and Orson Welles.
A Jewell! Milton' vs Otoole and Welles in the middle, lighting the fire of conflict. Great!
I wish I had seen this film years ago. It helps you understand not only the play Hamlet but Shakespeare's plays in general.
Thank you for this treasure! Genius at work!!!
Incredible conversation! Breathtaking! I wish there another hour of this!
The magnificent intellect of Orson Welles!
A gem of an archive clip.. a treasure.
They are completely immersed in the flow of thought. What delightful brilliant men!
Thanks for uploading. This was priceless.
Thanks so much for posting.
I cannot thank you enough for posting this !
This is such a WONDERFUL archive treasure - look how relaxed and yet so engaged they are! And how informed, how well-opinionated and informed. It is a pity that we do not have the equivalent format today.
Goodness that hard break at the end was painful. What a delightful discussion. Thank you.
fascinating: the range of thought that's in the play, the character, the varied interpretations.
Brilliant video. Thanks for the upload!
They uncover some real jewels of thinking about the play as they discuss. A great find. Thanks for posting.