Izzy's big problem, is his lack of adjustments, as soon as he gets his range attacks shut down by guys like Strickland & Blachowicz, hes got nothing else to offer, his clinch and boxing are lacking.
He got exposed by Strickland but his resume is undeniable. First ever 2x middleweight champ, 5 title defenses. He's clearly the second greatest middleweight of all time. I agree that Izzy is one dimensional but calling him overrated is crazy af.
@cltv5407 I say he was exposed by Blachowicz 1st, Jan was the 1st guy to Shut izzy's game plan down and reveal his lack of adjustments. Joe rogans dumbass commentary in that fight basically blocked people from seeing it honestly
@laborchia96 oh yeah, his non title defenses are amazing, I deadass think if he fought his title defenses the way he did his title run...he still woulda had the same success, but with no haters
To say Izzy is overrated is crazy to me… just because he lost to Strickland takes away from the fact the guy was a kickboxer (who barely ever lost) went completely undefeated in mma until Jan and stayed undefeated at mw until Alex came out… the guy only has 3 losses… and 2 of them are at mw and he beat one of the guys and was ahead of him til he wasn’t in every other fight… overrated? Especially at b tier? Doesn’t make sense. And I’m not even speaking as an Izzy fan. I think you must be trying to connect with fans or if you really believe some of these things your the hipster… just trying to be against the grain.. and then how ppl overate Alex you put him in d tier but Izzy in b their? You need to be drug tested.
The boys gotta be doing this on purpose at this point. Che releases a video about Connor not being washed up. Lucas instantly drops a video about why Connor is washed.
Conor’s not rly washed he’s still pretty young and strong he’s just mentally washed imo, if someone hypnotized him into being 2014 conor he’d probably ko chimaev in one round
charles olivieria was just champ and hes 34 lol. sounds like ur just finding shit to nitpick. conor's still barely got any mileage either, he can def have a second run if he lays off the bourbon and anabolics @@19throse40
@@Kingganggriddybut the thing is that fighting is mostly mentality, that old boxing quote "10% technique 90% mentality" you have to be so much better to win if you don't care or don't think you can
Khamzat - agreed. When he was super hungry, living on an army cot in the back of the gym, he would have beat ANYONE. But now? Lambos, cash and fancy apts in Dubai. He lost the Eye of the Tiger and is NOT what he was 2-3 years ago.
I'm not sure if it's the lifestyle, Khamzat always seems super motivated. He just ran into guys who are high level and won't just roll over and let him dominate them
@@mozalucas Who is claiming she's better than she is? Valentina Shevchenko has had 20 years of carnage. Great male fighters typically get 8 years. The fact that people don't understand Shevchenko is still even fighting at a high level after 20 years... if anything, that shows how underrated she is. She started fighting in 2003.
People think Shevchenko sucks because of her fight with Alexa Grasso? Alexa Grasso is in her prime at age 29-30, meanwhile Shevchenko was 35 years old and just turned 36.
I love how this dude acts like he is the epitome of what a UFC fan should be and makes fun of every type of fan but yet is actually the type of fan most people hate because they think they know everyone about the sport lol
Hawk, noticed that, too. for those going through the comments, I've got good news. God is good because He gives His blessings to everyone, whether they be good or bad. but everyone has at least, told a lie, or stolen something in their life. and that makes them sinners, and God will not allow sinners in heaven; in His presence, because He is holy. so, God has to punish the sinners in hell, because God is severe and just. but God is also love and He made a way for some to be saved from His wrath. here are the steps: 1. admit that you're a sinner and are lost. 2. realize that the penalty of sin is death (hell). 3. believe that Jesus (who is God) died on the cross, was buried, then rose from the grave, to pay the penalty for man's past, present, and future sins. 4. trust Christ alone as your Savior, and not on your own good deeds to get you to heaven (nor a combination of your faith and self-righteous works). 5. pray to God NOW that you're accepting Christ's free gift of salvation because if you die before making this decision, it's too late, and you'll 🔥🥵😈 6. and to be a disciple, tell people about Jesus, read the bible, go to church regularly to know God's will for your life.
he's wrong these are hype fighters their prime is long gone you cant keep using conors 2016 run to define his legacy he never beat the elites of 155 minus alvarez
@@carlgrimes662that’s like saying we can’t say prime Mirko Cro Cop is one of the best kickboxer’s because his prime was in the early 2000s Connor was an amazing striker. He’s definitely the greatest striker at 145. Connor also was the first ever two division champion against two incredible fighters. Connor also went 10 rounds with considered the best boxer of this generation.
@@carlgrimes662wtf are you talking about. Conor did all the elite in 145. People act like he rushed to the title. Conor easily won all of the fights. Also he did beat the elite of the lightweight division like a walk in the Park back in 2016. You act like he decided alvarez to be the champ. Back in the day everybody said this is a terrible Match up for conor because of the wrestling style. Obviously he isnt near a goat discussion in the lightweight division. Thats khabib, 100%. But featherweight conor was crazy. But what you are saying is dumb. Thats like khabib is overrated because at the time he was the only good wrestler in the division. Khabib never fought a good wrestler. Only kick boxer, so he had an advantage. Or khabib is overrated because he only fought in one division. Or Khabib isnt the goat because he only fought 2 top contender in the division and conor after a 2 year lay off with an injury and still took 4 rounds. Thats bullshit man. You have to respect mcgregor's achievements. What he did between 2014 and 2016 was crazy. Also he never pulled out once, never missed weight and never declined and opponent. Thats professional as fuck. You only can fight the guys the ufc offers you
Beneil had us all fooled with the win streak and the win over gamrot..leading up to the Charles fight they kept showing him getting koed by Hernandez early first round ..since then both guys had that same strategy and put him out...also great video best one in awhile 👍
I seen a clip of Beneil talking about how he’s been KO’d in sparring a bunch. After that I immediately like bro Charles is gonna sleep him. Brain damage just doesn’t go away lmao.
@@nefaakjacktown118 I mean he was on a huge winning streak beating decent and good fighters ..you and the 7 other people who liked this are the only ones who didn't think he was good
ALEX OVVERRATED!? LOL Sorry but when you've beat multiple world champions in the UFC, you are the goat. He beat Izzy, who was the middle weight champion, multiple times. He beat Sean Strickland whose currently the champion. He beat Jan Blachowicz who was previously the light heavy weight champion. He beat Jiri Prochazka who was previously the light heavy weight champion. He did all that across two divisions in TWO YEARS. Put some f'in respect to his name.
The boast that he did it in such a short time doesn’t help your argument, it undermines it. It highlights that he’s been massively fast tracked. Guys that grind away thanklessly beating a dozen un-motivating guys including horrible style matchups, eventually getting to the belt, that’s harder to do. Alex is awesome but every star has aligned so perfectly for him that I somehow just don’t even consider him at all in the GOAT argument.
@@DanAddison "The boast that he did it in such a short time doesn’t help your argument, it undermines it. It highlights that he’s been massively fast tracked." You couldn't be any more incorrect. Facts are facts, he beat the best. Whether the UFC gave him these fighters on a silver platter or not makes no difference. He beat them all and he's the goat.
Yeah I guess that to me, beating Jan or Jiri or Sean means very little compared to a guy beating someone like Max or Charles or DC, to pick a couple names off the top of my head. Hence why he doesn’t feature in my GOAT shortlist. Yet.
I think it's because the middleweight division has always been lacking in good wrestlers, it's only been ramping up in quality recently. I would still say Rob's TDD is decent though.
@@cerebraljoeorgantypehigh4673 his TDD isn’t perfect but saying its decent is downplaying it imo,the only grappler in the top 15 that can take him down more than once is probably khamzat,getting taken down once by a solid grappler doesn’t make your tdd not elite
@@skartimusalso Dricus has great timing. Most fighters leave themselves open for the takedown occasionally but Dricus timed it perfectly right after they clinched up. Also timed Whittaker perfectly with that jab.
Post covid lung infection Khamzat feels overrated to me. Those in the pocket exchanges with Usman had me like "wtf?" Especially considering how fantastic his uppercut is and Usman was giving him the opening all day with those hooks. Im starting to think hes good everywhere but his fght IQ. It aint all there.
Bro ? Usman is clearly the better boxer what did you expect in those exchanges? I think Khamzat still proved himself got himself a 10-8 round against Usman with his bread n butter. The Grappling
Absolutely. I agree with all the picks here except Usman, he's like the next MVP with solid wrestling & ground & pound. Nobody has answer to his question mark kick.
He was like 35 when he came to the ufc and the best of his career was behind him. And he still did decent in all of his losses like how he almost finished Charles
Chandler is world class, he just wants to put on a show for fans all the time and gets in trouble. The skill set he’s shown has proved that if he had a bit higher of a fight iq he could beat Islam
the hate on Patchy Mix is unreal, he can definitely be a top 5 bantamweight in the UFC, crazy good Jiu Jitsu with good striking is more than enough to be a really good bantamweight
Bro said Conor doesn’t have a chance against Chandler like Chandler doesn’t have the fight IQ of a toddler. I agree that Conor is overrated, but I’m 90% sure Chandler would ignore his wrestling, throw haymakers, and pray for a highlight KO. I can definitely see him getting countered and finished. Chandler cares more about fights being exciting than he does winning fights.
Natalia Silva??😭 she had Andrea Lee wobbling all over the place with a jab, her striking is more crisp than most flyweights already (that’s not saying much but still) I can’t wait to see your reaction when she cracks the top 5😂
broo you just got shown in an MMA on point vid! @32 seconds in their newest vid about ian garry and whether or not he can withstand the pressure of 296🙌🏻 when i saw u i felt like that dicaprio meme in once upon a time 😂 keep making great content dude i love it
No. People still overrate him. Sure, nobody serious says he can become a champion again, but people think he can hang in their with ranked guys and I totally disagree. Most people would claim that he could beat plenty of ranked guys and I think they're overrating him.
@@lucastracymma8764 you don’t think he matches up well with Moicano stylistically? I also think he would give Dan Hooker, Bobby green, and Drew Dober problems. I think him bulking up is a factor to his favor as well as he was always undersized for 155. He’s not beating anyone in the top 10 but top 15 I could see it.
Such a narcissist move that is. Can't you at least spar men who are your size Conor? He's gotta be around 190, which means that he should be training with welterweights and up. . .but that wouldn't suit Conor's front-runner attitude.
Pereira fans are terrible just like Izzy fans. They think his opponents should kiss his but* and like if it is impossible to knock him out. Fans were like how dare Hill be confident
Pereira on the most overrated. This guy is such a casual and the fact that he is one of the biggest voice in the mma community gives me hope in life. If this guy can make it i can too
Mostly agree with this list. Regarding Costa: he did not have a size advantage over Marvin. They're the same size. I still think he beats Kumshot, especially after Kumshots' performance against Kamaru.
@chrizzzz827 fair point. I thought he was talking about frame: height, reach, etc. But yeah, I do remember Costa missing weight. He should just move to HW. That division needs more talent.
Comparing Askren in 2019 to guys like Kamaru and Colby is silly. Askren at that point in his career had the worst striking in the history of the sport and had no athleticism in his takedown attempts. Just because Akren is a wrestler doesn't mean him at his worst beats Masvidal.
Nah g as someone whos actually fought in kickboxing id place my money on lucas. Watch askren vs maia, his striking is fuckin dog shit, ive actually seen 15 yr olds that would spark ben on the feet
@@lukebfilms4232 its crazy your saying that ben askren whos a wrestler with 2 hip replacements could beat lucas who isnt as soy as he looks in an art askren doesnt do. Both lucas and lucas have the same amount of skill on the feet its just lucas is younger and has the advantages of that. Like have you seen askren strike mate? I know 14 yr olds whod take ben on the feet
No. People still overrate him. Sure, nobody serious says he can become a champion again, but people think he can hang in their with ranked guys and I totally disagree. Most people would claim that he could beat plenty of ranked guys and I think they're overrating him.
I think usman nurmagomedov could beat top 5 fighters depending on the matchup I’d pick him over dustin & imo him vs arman would be competitive stylistically
Usman is very young and look at what he’s done. He’s very good everywhere. No I don’t think he would be top 5 right now. He could be top 10 but he’s still very young. Also look at the camp he comes from. If they say he’s very good then he’s very good. They’re all basically undefeated and champions and on the p4p list so if they’re saying he’s good and special I believe them. Sorry
Not a fan of street judas at all but your take on him and Askren is 100% true. Also agree on Mcgregor, his sparring looks like it's done specifically to produce hype shorts on TH-cam and not like fight prep. Where I give Adesanya props is the fact that he faced Pereira even after getting knocked out three times, that's balls imo. The Weasle spin ght organ hyperbole fake virtuesignaling hype for bullet is hilarious.
@@cltv5407 right and Rockhold hurt Costa a couple times, and Vettori striking is beginner level. That’s the other thing he couldn’t finish old glass jaw Rockhold despite landing flush several times. He’s just one of those wannabe body builders with zero power.
The Shevchenko AI robot joke was gold. I was one of those people who thought she was like a terminator, but seems like Grasso might just have her number
Israel Adesanya and Alex Pereira are two of the most underrated fighters. Except now people realize how good Alex Pereira really is. Adesanya has rocked Pereira multiple times and just knocked him out. People already forgot Adesanya knocked out Robert Whittaker, and yet people are still perfectly happy about hyping Robert Whittaker to this day. And yet people forget Adesanya's entire legacy just because he lost to Strickland. Now the hate for Adesanya is even saying he is overrated. No. That just means there are multiple champion level fighters in the division with different styles. And when you look at the middleweight division, that's exactly what's going on. Israel Adesanya and Alex Pereira both shouldn't even be on this list.
To say Izzy is overrated is crazy to me… just because he lost to Strickland takes away from the fact the guy was a kickboxer (who barely ever lost) went completely undefeated in mma until Jan and stayed undefeated at mw until Alex came out… the guy only has 3 losses… and 2 of them are at mw and he beat one of the guys and was ahead of him til he wasn’t in every other fight… overrated? Especially at b tier? Doesn’t make sense. And I’m not even speaking as an Izzy fan. I think you must be trying to connect with fans or if you really believe some of these things your the hipster… just trying to be against the grain.. and then how ppl overate Alex you put him in d tier but Izzy in b their? You need to be drug tested. Ppl are trying to say he’s past khabib and the greatest combat sport of all time. The same ppl who say khabib is a weight bully but Alex isn’t… you know cause khabib was just sooooo much bigger then everyone he ever fought…. Soooo much bigger…. Tf
Izzy is overrated. It was proven when everyone and their mother thought he would body Strickland and even stop him. Alex is a weight bully but atleast his chin became vulnerable due to the massive weight cut.
Completely agree with you on the Ben vs Jorge take also roundtree was walked down all fight last night I get that he got the ko but I was so unimpressed by him
It’s interesting that Gilbert is suppose to be a bad ass jitz guy but never uses it he’s a banger happy to just slug it out. Also I agree 100% with the Conor analysis.
I agree with Alex pereira being a bit overrated but his resume might genuinely be better than khabibs lol. I think if he defends the belt once then it will be 100%.
That description of Jason Jackson was way off. Idk why you'd call him an "old head"... the dude is 33, only has 21 fights, and debuted in 2012 (a year AFTER Leon). He's also pretty good. If you remove the split decision loss to Ed Ruth which was a complete and utter robbery, he's on an 11 fight win streak. Sure he doesn't get finishes often, but you can describe Leon in the exact same way. Long ass win streak of decision wins. I understand that the level of competition isn't the same, but still hella unnecessary disrespect to Jackson lol.
I’m gonna be honest I don’t really like Conor that much, but he lost to Nate Diaz,khabib, and Dustin. I just think he deserves some slack. Ya he hasn’t been fighting but there are guys that we praise who have lost a lot more to worse competition
izzy cleared the division-obviously they’re gonna fast track a new guy that izzy also has a past with in kick boxing. Would you have rather seen izzy cannonier 2? Izzy vettori 3? It’s the same with Ilia right now, why would they feed him to holloway when Volk already cleared his division and needs a new contender. And they also tried to feed him to Blachowicz 3 months after getting knocked out cold
" u have to be a special kind of shitty to lose to vettori on the feet" 💀
Izzy's big problem, is his lack of adjustments, as soon as he gets his range attacks shut down by guys like Strickland & Blachowicz, hes got nothing else to offer, his clinch and boxing are lacking.
Still impressive tho how much he has achieved in the ufc by really just using his kickboxing 95% of the time
He got exposed by Strickland but his resume is undeniable. First ever 2x middleweight champ, 5 title defenses. He's clearly the second greatest middleweight of all time. I agree that Izzy is one dimensional but calling him overrated is crazy af.
@cltv5407 I say he was exposed by Blachowicz 1st, Jan was the 1st guy to Shut izzy's game plan down and reveal his lack of adjustments. Joe rogans dumbass commentary in that fight basically blocked people from seeing it honestly
@laborchia96 oh yeah, his non title defenses are amazing, I deadass think if he fought his title defenses the way he did his title run...he still woulda had the same success, but with no haters
To say Izzy is overrated is crazy to me… just because he lost to Strickland takes away from the fact the guy was a kickboxer (who barely ever lost) went completely undefeated in mma until Jan and stayed undefeated at mw until Alex came out… the guy only has 3 losses… and 2 of them are at mw and he beat one of the guys and was ahead of him til he wasn’t in every other fight… overrated? Especially at b tier? Doesn’t make sense. And I’m not even speaking as an Izzy fan. I think you must be trying to connect with fans or if you really believe some of these things your the hipster… just trying to be against the grain.. and then how ppl overate Alex you put him in d tier but Izzy in b their? You need to be drug tested.
Lucas looks like brock lesnars daughter
😂
Lmao
Lol
He's too short though
Khazmat’s hype was being the first realistic shot at someone holding 3 titles simultaneously, to put it in perspective
Cant get the title if you dont get titleshots lmao
@@light-qe3gvwhat title shot did he earn?
@@tomsawyer6380 ww titleshot
@@light-qe3gvall he had to do was make weight but he didn’t
@@RL-xo1eu thats ur own personal problem
Ben Askren is the pfp worst striker in ufc history
Real ones know it's Cindy Dandois is the worst striker of all time. So bad she got cut after one fight lmaooo
Rhonda, if you are including women in that statement.
You don't know Puelles do you?
Literally, CM Punk would have out-struck Askren. I was baffled when people were picking him over Jake Paul.
@@thenedsmmachannel8970 p4p though?
I can’t explain why, but that accidental reveal of Paul Craig was perfectly fitting 😂
Don’t show this to MMA Che
lmao see his vid yesterday? lmao
Where does Amir fit into this
😭😭😭
Mma gae?
I was just thinking that lol
The boys gotta be doing this on purpose at this point. Che releases a video about Connor not being washed up. Lucas instantly drops a video about why Connor is washed.
For sure he's taking the Chael route.
Conor’s not rly washed he’s still pretty young and strong he’s just mentally washed imo, if someone hypnotized him into being 2014 conor he’d probably ko chimaev in one round
@@KingganggriddyHe isn't young, he's 35. He's old for his division.
charles olivieria was just champ and hes 34 lol. sounds like ur just finding shit to nitpick. conor's still barely got any mileage either, he can def have a second run if he lays off the bourbon and anabolics @@19throse40
@@Kingganggriddybut the thing is that fighting is mostly mentality, that old boxing quote "10% technique 90% mentality" you have to be so much better to win if you don't care or don't think you can
Khamzat - agreed. When he was super hungry, living on an army cot in the back of the gym, he would have beat ANYONE. But now? Lambos, cash and fancy apts in Dubai. He lost the Eye of the Tiger and is NOT what he was 2-3 years ago.
I'm not sure if it's the lifestyle, Khamzat always seems super motivated. He just ran into guys who are high level and won't just roll over and let him dominate them
@@stefanm2731 he has 13 fights you honestly can’t tell
I disagree, he ran into much more elite fighters which made his aura of invincibility go down a little.
He gave usman a 10-8 round and if usman didn’t slam him on his hand he probably would’ve been more dominant in the next 2 rounds
@@demonsushi-_-3403no knees off the couch usman
Jim Miller isn't declining this is the best he's looked maybe ever, dudes a monster.
Valentina has like 8 title defenses and is overrated? Wtf she's very good for a woman
He said operated doesn't mean bad, just not as good as people claim
@@mozalucas Who is claiming she's better than she is? Valentina Shevchenko has had 20 years of carnage. Great male fighters typically get 8 years. The fact that people don't understand Shevchenko is still even fighting at a high level after 20 years... if anything, that shows how underrated she is. She started fighting in 2003.
She's the GOAT of flyweight and if it wasn't for Amanda Nunes, she would be the GOAT of bantamweight too, which would've made her THE Women's GOAT.
People think Shevchenko sucks because of her fight with Alexa Grasso? Alexa Grasso is in her prime at age 29-30, meanwhile Shevchenko was 35 years old and just turned 36.
I love how this dude acts like he is the epitome of what a UFC fan should be and makes fun of every type of fan but yet is actually the type of fan most people hate because they think they know everyone about the sport lol
Hawk, noticed that, too. for those going through the comments, I've got good news. God is good because He gives His blessings to everyone, whether they be good or bad. but everyone has at least, told a lie, or stolen something in their life. and that makes them sinners, and God will not allow sinners in heaven; in His presence, because He is holy. so, God has to punish the sinners in hell, because God is severe and just. but God is also love and He made a way for some to be saved from His wrath. here are the steps:
1. admit that you're a sinner and are lost.
2. realize that the penalty of sin is death (hell).
3. believe that Jesus (who is God) died on the cross, was buried, then rose from the grave, to pay the penalty for man's past, present, and future sins.
4. trust Christ alone as your Savior, and not on your own good deeds to get you to heaven (nor a combination of your faith and self-righteous works).
5. pray to God NOW that you're accepting Christ's free gift of salvation because if you die before making this decision, it's too late, and you'll 🔥🥵😈
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Nah Lucas is cool
he's wrong these are hype fighters their prime is long gone you cant keep using conors 2016 run to define his legacy he never beat the elites of 155 minus alvarez
@@carlgrimes662that’s like saying we can’t say prime Mirko Cro Cop is one of the best kickboxer’s because his prime was in the early 2000s Connor was an amazing striker. He’s definitely the greatest striker at 145. Connor also was the first ever two division champion against two incredible fighters. Connor also went 10 rounds with considered the best boxer of this generation.
@@carlgrimes662wtf are you talking about. Conor did all the elite in 145. People act like he rushed to the title. Conor easily won all of the fights. Also he did beat the elite of the lightweight division like a walk in the Park back in 2016. You act like he decided alvarez to be the champ. Back in the day everybody said this is a terrible Match up for conor because of the wrestling style. Obviously he isnt near a goat discussion in the lightweight division. Thats khabib, 100%. But featherweight conor was crazy. But what you are saying is dumb. Thats like khabib is overrated because at the time he was the only good wrestler in the division. Khabib never fought a good wrestler. Only kick boxer, so he had an advantage. Or khabib is overrated because he only fought in one division. Or Khabib isnt the goat because he only fought 2 top contender in the division and conor after a 2 year lay off with an injury and still took 4 rounds. Thats bullshit man. You have to respect mcgregor's achievements. What he did between 2014 and 2016 was crazy. Also he never pulled out once, never missed weight and never declined and opponent. Thats professional as fuck. You only can fight the guys the ufc offers you
21:40 LucasTracy curse is so potent that Erceg gets a titleshot 3 months later and dominantly beats Pantoja via ko
Beneil had us all fooled with the win streak and the win over gamrot..leading up to the Charles fight they kept showing him getting koed by Hernandez early first round ..since then both guys had that same strategy and put him out...also great video best one in awhile 👍
Beneil had no one fooled but idiots…i felt like the only one that didn’t see the hype
I always thought Beneil was slow as shite
I seen a clip of Beneil talking about how he’s been KO’d in sparring a bunch. After that I immediately like bro Charles is gonna sleep him. Brain damage just doesn’t go away lmao.
@@nefaakjacktown118 I mean he was on a huge winning streak beating decent and good fighters ..you and the 7 other people who liked this are the only ones who didn't think he was good
@@heresthethingyouguys slow yes but he still always got it done
ALEX OVVERRATED!? LOL
Sorry but when you've beat multiple world champions in the UFC, you are the goat.
He beat Izzy, who was the middle weight champion, multiple times.
He beat Sean Strickland whose currently the champion.
He beat Jan Blachowicz who was previously the light heavy weight champion.
He beat Jiri Prochazka who was previously the light heavy weight champion.
He did all that across two divisions in TWO YEARS.
Put some f'in respect to his name.
Yeah but some people says he can be the HEAVYWEIGHT champion that's crazy and delusional af.
The boast that he did it in such a short time doesn’t help your argument, it undermines it. It highlights that he’s been massively fast tracked. Guys that grind away thanklessly beating a dozen un-motivating guys including horrible style matchups, eventually getting to the belt, that’s harder to do. Alex is awesome but every star has aligned so perfectly for him that I somehow just don’t even consider him at all in the GOAT argument.
@@DanAddison
"The boast that he did it in such a short time doesn’t help your argument, it undermines it. It highlights that he’s been massively fast tracked."
You couldn't be any more incorrect. Facts are facts, he beat the best. Whether the UFC gave him these fighters on a silver platter or not makes no difference. He beat them all and he's the goat.
Yeah I guess that to me, beating Jan or Jiri or Sean means very little compared to a guy beating someone like Max or Charles or DC, to pick a couple names off the top of my head. Hence why he doesn’t feature in my GOAT shortlist. Yet.
@@Frenchieeeee You probably think Alex could go up to heavyweight and win there too
I never understood what makes you think whittakers TDD is overrated,getting taken down ONCE by ddp makes his tdd overrated?
I think it's because the middleweight division has always been lacking in good wrestlers, it's only been ramping up in quality recently. I would still say Rob's TDD is decent though.
@@cerebraljoeorgantypehigh4673 his TDD isn’t perfect but saying its decent is downplaying it imo,the only grappler in the top 15 that can take him down more than once is probably khamzat,getting taken down once by a solid grappler doesn’t make your tdd not elite
Dricus has that Gorilla strength man. He might seem unpolished but he seems super strong
For real. Dude was,stuffing most of Romeros takedowns. And Romero is a silver medalist in the Olympics. A Dagestani won the gold by the way
@@skartimusalso Dricus has great timing. Most fighters leave themselves open for the takedown occasionally but Dricus timed it perfectly right after they clinched up. Also timed Whittaker perfectly with that jab.
Post covid lung infection Khamzat feels overrated to me. Those in the pocket exchanges with Usman had me like "wtf?" Especially considering how fantastic his uppercut is and Usman was giving him the opening all day with those hooks. Im starting to think hes good everywhere but his fght IQ. It aint all there.
He was fughting B tier fighters, that's why
Bro ? Usman is clearly the better boxer what did you expect in those exchanges? I think Khamzat still proved himself got himself a 10-8 round against Usman with his bread n butter. The Grappling
usman pieced him up even with the takedown threat
Absolutely. I agree with all the picks here except Usman, he's like the next MVP with solid wrestling & ground & pound. Nobody has answer to his question mark kick.
Sandhagen needs to fight for the title
Him and his management have a super low iq shoulda been fighting Sean next but him and his team are idiots
Should’ve fought for it long ago ngl, still deserves it now
Cory 50-45'd Chito this year and Chito already got the title shot after close fight against Munhoz that's crazy😂😂
@@cltv5407Cory’s injured
Cory had to have surgery
14:06 oh brother
flukas glazy at it again
What about Chandler, a 3-timd Bellator champion how couldn't do shite in the UFC
He’s a 3 time Bellator champion bc he lost the belt a lot and had never defended if I remember right
He was like 35 when he came to the ufc and the best of his career was behind him. And he still did decent in all of his losses like how he almost finished Charles
@@50.CalFilmsthink everyones almost finished charles in the top 4 , isnt really a big deal
Chandler is world class, he just wants to put on a show for fans all the time and gets in trouble. The skill set he’s shown has proved that if he had a bit higher of a fight iq he could beat Islam
He’s nearly beat every single person he’s fought in the ufc
13:44 aged so badly bro khalil vs pereira was fireee
yup
😂
These are my favorite kinds of Lucas Tracy videos
Him ripping on dudes with the truth is hilarious. He is wrong semi-regularly, but it’s too funny
Yeah it’s when you see the outrageousness
No shits are ever given 😂😂
Lucas please align the panels behind you bro...
I wish you hadn't pointed that out
I'm so happy for my favorite Smurf uploading.
Askren and Masvidal need to run it back.
Jones and it isn’t close. Overrated resume, overrated fighter.
Least delusional Guru loser fan
Overrated fighter maybe but got a great resume.
Here we go Mr Buck Wheat Pancakes
Gilbert Burns has 5 submission wins in The UFC.
@HellBlazerMNE07Você que é foda né
Congratulations to all this fighters on non being overrated
the hate on Patchy Mix is unreal, he can definitely be a top 5 bantamweight in the UFC, crazy good Jiu Jitsu with good striking is more than enough to be a really good bantamweight
Lol maybe top 15. He’s basically Aljo with worse striking and takedowns maybe slightly better submissions
Cardio is his biggest problem. Don't forget him vs Kyoji(small bantamweight) was so close.
@@jonjonescellmate4955 He's basically the former champion but "maybe top 15"?
@@Rule34Artist. u don’t think if Aljo had worse striking AND takedowns he wouldn’t be barely top 15?
@@jonjonescellmate4955 no I think your assessment of Patchy Mix isn't even accurate
Bro said Conor doesn’t have a chance against Chandler like Chandler doesn’t have the fight IQ of a toddler. I agree that Conor is overrated, but I’m 90% sure Chandler would ignore his wrestling, throw haymakers, and pray for a highlight KO. I can definitely see him getting countered and finished. Chandler cares more about fights being exciting than he does winning fights.
Natalia Silva??😭 she had Andrea Lee wobbling all over the place with a jab, her striking is more crisp than most flyweights already (that’s not saying much but still) I can’t wait to see your reaction when she cracks the top 5😂
🎯💯💯💯
He watched one fight and thinks that
She has a highlight reel knockout on her resume too. That's more than a lot of Wmma fighters can say lol.
@@ogreface8 big facts
Dana white probably does more training then connor at this point
I just know this is going to be cringe.
broo you just got shown in an MMA on point vid! @32 seconds in their newest vid about ian garry and whether or not he can withstand the pressure of 296🙌🏻 when i saw u i felt like that dicaprio meme in once upon a time 😂 keep making great content dude i love it
This guy just made me tell my friends Gilbert Burns has no submission wins …
I feel so stupid now thanks Lucas
Nobody rates Conor highly lmao he can’t be overrated
No. People still overrate him. Sure, nobody serious says he can become a champion again, but people think he can hang in their with ranked guys and I totally disagree. Most people would claim that he could beat plenty of ranked guys and I think they're overrating him.
I think he's underrated. Everybody knows he's washed now, but people are starting to forget how good he used to be.
@@lucastracymma8764 you don’t think he matches up well with Moicano stylistically? I also think he would give Dan Hooker, Bobby green, and Drew Dober problems. I think him bulking up is a factor to his favor as well as he was always undersized for 155. He’s not beating anyone in the top 10 but top 15 I could see it.
@@kevinmurphy5878 key words..."used to be"
@@lucastracymma8764 we want underrated fighters video like this !!!
Conor has been reduced to sparring PFL bantamweights🤣🤣 Lucas is too funny lmfao
Such a narcissist move that is. Can't you at least spar men who are your size Conor? He's gotta be around 190, which means that he should be training with welterweights and up. . .but that wouldn't suit Conor's front-runner attitude.
That poor man's aljo is my cousin watch ya mouth 😭
Ben "hip mobility of a 95 year old woman" Askren 🔥
Saying Conor has no chance against chandler makes you sound like a casual
the wannabe hardcore fans are my favorite type of fans lol
this is one of your best vids bro, you're so funny!😂😂
I’m being honest I think Ben would actually beat you in a kickboxing match by just out-dawging you
Pereira fans are terrible just like Izzy fans. They think his opponents should kiss his but* and like if it is impossible to knock him out. Fans were like how dare Hill be confident
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This video should be titled “fighters I picked to win in the past, but didn’t.”
You comparing yourself to these fighters is hilarious 😂 Yeah they might be overrated for the ufc but all these guys would literally kill you
Oh wow rly ? I didn’t know that 😱
No shit buddy thats what he said. But ben askren would get cooked on the feet by any cardio kickboxer
Your right and Connor would “probably” beat him in a fight
@@itdoobiecold420ya never know bro, Lucas might land a meaty hook and put his lights out
except belal he would take you to a hard fought decision in a street fight
Pereira on the most overrated. This guy is such a casual and the fact that he is one of the biggest voice in the mma community gives me hope in life. If this guy can make it i can too
@jays-uo6qs say that again without crying 🤣
the ben asscream one is so true😭😭
Alex is 100% overrated. People talk like he's the best of all time and he just got slept by izzy a couple fights ago
I agree, I think periera is a tad bit over rated.
Mostly agree with this list. Regarding Costa: he did not have a size advantage over Marvin. They're the same size. I still think he beats Kumshot, especially after Kumshots' performance against Kamaru.
bo he missed wieght by 11 pounds so he had a weight advantage
@chrizzzz827 fair point. I thought he was talking about frame: height, reach, etc. But yeah, I do remember Costa missing weight. He should just move to HW. That division needs more talent.
@@chrizzzz827they agreed to a catchweight fight
@@jessechavez4820after Vetorii was already cutting weight. It’s likely he was smaller going into the octagon.
@@jessechavez4820 yeah, because Costa missed weight...
Ben Askren had a bone spur on his hip when he came out of retirement into the UFC.
Dude tried to downplay Henry by saying tj was weight drained as if he wasn’t juiced to the gill 😹
Jorge lost to every wrestler he ever faced. So Ben would of still beat him if that knee didn't hit him.
Comparing Askren in 2019 to guys like Kamaru and Colby is silly. Askren at that point in his career had the worst striking in the history of the sport and had no athleticism in his takedown attempts. Just because Akren is a wrestler doesn't mean him at his worst beats Masvidal.
@@lucastracymma8764stop ducking the Anthony smith vid
Bro don’t even mention yourself in these videos you make yourself look silly Mr Lucas…
Paul Craigs grappling overrated yet submitted ankalaev, hill and krylov
5ft lucas saying hed beat ben in a kickboxing match. God please let this be satire 😭
He’s pretty full of himself lol
Nah g as someone whos actually fought in kickboxing id place my money on lucas. Watch askren vs maia, his striking is fuckin dog shit, ive actually seen 15 yr olds that would spark ben on the feet
@@jakelongstaff4102 stop using crack
@@jakelongstaff4102 you need to train kickboxing longer if you think this
@@lukebfilms4232 its crazy your saying that ben askren whos a wrestler with 2 hip replacements could beat lucas who isnt as soy as he looks in an art askren doesnt do. Both lucas and lucas have the same amount of skill on the feet its just lucas is younger and has the advantages of that. Like have you seen askren strike mate? I know 14 yr olds whod take ben on the feet
McGregor has actually become underrated thanks to casual haters and Khabib fans.
No. People still overrate him. Sure, nobody serious says he can become a champion again, but people think he can hang in their with ranked guys and I totally disagree. Most people would claim that he could beat plenty of ranked guys and I think they're overrating him.
Literally never even attempted one title defense he had to be stripped. Has more rape accusations than title defenses.
Sadly true lol. Not like he does himself any favours 😂
just lookn through the comments and youll see thats not true, people literally out here arguing he will be chandler
I think usman nurmagomedov could beat top 5 fighters depending on the matchup I’d pick him over dustin & imo him vs arman would be competitive stylistically
Usman is very young and look at what he’s done. He’s very good everywhere. No I don’t think he would be top 5 right now. He could be top 10 but he’s still very young. Also look at the camp he comes from. If they say he’s very good then he’s very good. They’re all basically undefeated and champions and on the p4p list so if they’re saying he’s good and special I believe them. Sorry
Usman is not very young
@@nanizaddyv2829he is 25 and has two title defences at Bellator.
Not a fan of street judas at all but your take on him and Askren is 100% true.
Also agree on Mcgregor, his sparring looks like it's done specifically to produce hype shorts on TH-cam and not like fight prep.
Where I give Adesanya props is the fact that he faced Pereira even after getting knocked out three times, that's balls imo.
The Weasle spin ght organ hyperbole fake virtuesignaling hype for bullet is hilarious.
That pereira bit is crazy in hindsight after he dispatched of hill and then destroyed jiri again
Bedtime MMA>>>Lucas Tracey
No hate for Gilbert burns but i do think he is really overrated after that close fight with Khamzat 😅
bro despises izzy
Jim miller isn’t even declining he’s been sleeping young dudes.
Bro Costa barely finished Johnny Hendricks. Short, fat,and old Hendricks. That shows his inability to finish.
And barely beat old Rockhold and lost to Vettori.
@@cltv5407 right and Rockhold hurt Costa a couple times, and Vettori striking is beginner level. That’s the other thing he couldn’t finish old glass jaw Rockhold despite landing flush several times. He’s just one of those wannabe body builders with zero power.
The Shevchenko AI robot joke was gold. I was one of those people who thought she was like a terminator, but seems like Grasso might just have her number
no, that judge that gave Grasso a 10/8 round gave her the win. it should have been a 10/9 round and Valentina would've won the rematch.
I feel like you have the most casual takes in the community.
Israel Adesanya and Alex Pereira are two of the most underrated fighters. Except now people realize how good Alex Pereira really is. Adesanya has rocked Pereira multiple times and just knocked him out. People already forgot Adesanya knocked out Robert Whittaker, and yet people are still perfectly happy about hyping Robert Whittaker to this day. And yet people forget Adesanya's entire legacy just because he lost to Strickland. Now the hate for Adesanya is even saying he is overrated. No. That just means there are multiple champion level fighters in the division with different styles. And when you look at the middleweight division, that's exactly what's going on.
Israel Adesanya and Alex Pereira both shouldn't even be on this list.
To say Izzy is overrated is crazy to me… just because he lost to Strickland takes away from the fact the guy was a kickboxer (who barely ever lost) went completely undefeated in mma until Jan and stayed undefeated at mw until Alex came out… the guy only has 3 losses… and 2 of them are at mw and he beat one of the guys and was ahead of him til he wasn’t in every other fight… overrated? Especially at b tier? Doesn’t make sense. And I’m not even speaking as an Izzy fan. I think you must be trying to connect with fans or if you really believe some of these things your the hipster… just trying to be against the grain.. and then how ppl overate Alex you put him in d tier but Izzy in b their? You need to be drug tested. Ppl are trying to say he’s past khabib and the greatest combat sport of all time. The same ppl who say khabib is a weight bully but Alex isn’t… you know cause khabib was just sooooo much bigger then everyone he ever fought…. Soooo much bigger…. Tf
Izzy is overrated. It was proven when everyone and their mother thought he would body Strickland and even stop him. Alex is a weight bully but atleast his chin became vulnerable due to the massive weight cut.
Ben askrens body was completely fucked by horge, though that flying knee was fucking perfect, and genius
And im a big ben askren fan
I got Ben savagely trashing you in a boxing match 😂
Haha this aged well. Roundtree K.O walk off Anthony Smith, and Colby stinks up ufc 296.
You stop lifting? Looking kinda skinny. We need a muzzing tutorial video brah.
Mmmmmmmmm, Fiziev looks like a Viking? Maybe you meant a Viking action figure. That dude would be the tiniest Viking ever, lol!
Jamahal Hill should be on the list.. guy has 3 wins worth anything, lost to paul craig..lhw is a shit show Pereira might be top dog for a long time
im conviced this guy plays a character and is tryna grow by making bait comments to get people mad and clip him on other scoial media platforms
Completely agree with you on the Ben vs Jorge take also roundtree was walked down all fight last night I get that he got the ko but I was so unimpressed by him
Shavkat deserves to be on this list too tbh
Chandler & Dustin too. Holland is up there too.
Come back here after 296 and see if hes overrated
@@yoaregey7296 i’m picking him to beat wonderboy so him winning won’t change my opinion unless he outstrikes wb on the feet🤷🏽♂️
Undefeated, 100% finish rate...😂😂
@@alexback3395 he’ll probably end up as a champ but he’s still overrated compared to the hype people give him
The worse takes in mma community
Valentina kicks your ass in a MMA fight AND in a kickboxing match, tell me how come she's more overrated than Ben.
Conor vs wonderboy could be a good fight 🤔
It’s interesting that Gilbert is suppose to be a bad ass jitz guy but never uses it he’s a banger happy to just slug it out. Also I agree 100% with the Conor analysis.
I agree with Alex pereira being a bit overrated but his resume might genuinely be better than khabibs lol. I think if he defends the belt once then it will be 100%.
Beaten 2 former middleweight champions and 2 former lhw champions. On paper that’s better than the 3 top 5 wins against conor, Dustin, Justin.
His resume is way better. Lucas has horrible takes.
His name should be lucasGAycee
Chimaev broke his hand in first round. How is he overrated when he beat Kamaru Usman with one hand? Just not very smart in my opinion.
I think this dude just talks to talk. There is no sustenance in anything he says
Usman already beat the two guys that schooled Chandler. I get it when you say he won't be in the top 5 in the Ufc, but Chandler pick was halarious.😂
U ever heard of aging? How long ago was Chandler in Bellator & fighting those guys.
That description of Jason Jackson was way off. Idk why you'd call him an "old head"... the dude is 33, only has 21 fights, and debuted in 2012 (a year AFTER Leon). He's also pretty good. If you remove the split decision loss to Ed Ruth which was a complete and utter robbery, he's on an 11 fight win streak. Sure he doesn't get finishes often, but you can describe Leon in the exact same way. Long ass win streak of decision wins. I understand that the level of competition isn't the same, but still hella unnecessary disrespect to Jackson lol.
I’m gonna be honest I don’t really like Conor that much, but he lost to Nate Diaz,khabib, and Dustin. I just think he deserves some slack. Ya he hasn’t been fighting but there are guys that we praise who have lost a lot more to worse competition
Burns was overrated at the start of the year, I picked Belal, but now I feel like he's rated fine
Alex pirrera got the easiest road to the 2 belts he never fought any wrestlers.
izzy cleared the division-obviously they’re gonna fast track a new guy that izzy also has a past with in kick boxing. Would you have rather seen izzy cannonier 2? Izzy vettori 3? It’s the same with Ilia right now, why would they feed him to holloway when Volk already cleared his division and needs a new contender. And they also tried to feed him to Blachowicz 3 months after getting knocked out cold
Walter Jr. would smash Askren in a boxing match based on athleticism alone.
This video was a sweetie treatie from Pillar to post
Dariush in the overrated list can somebody even could have predicted that in 2023
I love those kinda vids
Mcgregor chins chandler
I agree Khamzat is a little overrated but he did actually tear a ligament in his hand in round 1 against Usman.
Also tore the spinal cord in the second