Premiere Chat: Erin virtualhug very excited to begin this session soon! Rishikesh Memane Hi Ajay/Arun Ajay Lunia @Erin :- Waiting from Long to get it premiered 🙂 Ajay Lunia @Rishikesh Memane :- Hello Rishikesh QAFox Hi Erin/Ajay vinitha Ragamsetty hi Pragya Rathore Can you record and add in your Playlist Please. vinay ajmera Hi mudaseer ahmed hi Erin Hello everyone!! Welcome to this exciting STET @QAFox chillwcat QAFox Hello Everyone Pragya Rathore Hello Erin Erin goodvibes Suresh Dasari hi eager to listen Lokesh Sinha Can we start with what is accessibility testing? Ajay Lunia @Pragya Rathore :- it will remain there you can access this STET Session later as well Under STET Playlist. Pragya Rathore OK Thanks vinay ajmera Thanks ajay Md Afsar Ali Hi Erin Md Afsar Ali Can cover bit about accessibility testing in Mobile ? Any automation tool for that ? Erin hello and welcome 😀 @Md Afsar Ali , yes we should cover some mobile accessibility in a little bit. Venkata Rajesh Varanasi TH-cam supports this kind of captions. Which is now in beta phase but works at least 80% Erin There are some open source and chrome extensions I will recommend, such as Lighthouse (chrome extension). And Testim (automated). Md Afsar Ali Thanks @Erin Erin of course @Md Afsar Ali Rishikesh Memane Is there any course or training available to learn accessibility testing? Can we automate accessibility testing? If yes, what all popular tools available? Erin great questions @Rishikesh Memane Lokesh Sinha In my project we are going to implement this. Hence this session will help a lot. Thanks erin Erin I've found that accessibility hasn't been something included in any of my job training, or courses in school. I have mostly had to gain knowledge and experience on my own time. Md Afsar Ali For web i think can use Axe ..for automation Erin By using some of the tools we're demonstrating for you now 🙂 Erin Axe is good. parth patil does axe have future testing scope? Erin Axe launches through dev tools, I had a little hiccup there thinking I needed to hit the browser extension again. shelterin Erin @parth patil could you elaborate on your question? Are you asking if it can develop trends on where you may have future accessibility issues? Md Afsar Ali How you guys report to the business and how you decide valid issue or severity or priority etc ?? Erin RIGHT NOW 🙂 I explain Erin (great timing question @Md Afsar Ali ) Md Afsar Ali Great 👍👍 Erin But essentially, you want to report the Serious and Critical issues right away and bring them to your manager or Lead. Document the minor ones to put in the backlog. And work into sprints. Erin elbowbump Erin @Rishikesh Memane this may answer your earlier question Kalyani Kenjale hie Erin Erin welcome @Kalyani Kenjale Venkata Rajesh Varanasi How easy or hard to implement accessibility features to our website/app are there any readymade tools or plugins for this.? Kalyani Kenjale gestures in mobile instead of using navigation keys user can swipe up trough screen and go back and forth , cn we consider it as an accessibility feature parth patil does this Acessibilty testing need coding knowledge? parth patil whats are other prerequisiste to excel in accessibilty testing? Erin @parth patil you do not need coding knowledge to begin testing accessibility. 🙂 Rajan Domala In Agile world , how feasible it is to adapt the accessibility testing , considering the Sprint dead lines and resource availability Erin @Rajan Domala usually it is something thought about in the early stages of development. And good developers already know some of those best practices as part of their code. Erin But it's rather easy to audit for accessibility, and if concerns are found in production, you can bring in those issues into an agile sprint. danda sweetmouni where will perform accessibility testing in QA/Stage/prod? Erin It's usually something you do on your own, honestly. Unless it's part of the dev process and UI/UX teams are involved that would usually be their duty to enforce those guidelines. Erin It helps you as a tester to be aware of all of these things though. To help grow your knowledge and confidence. Erin learning Erin You are all asking really great questions! Keep them coming. 😀 Ajay Lunia Awesome guys keep asking questions and clear your doubts directly from Erin The Accessibility Champion. Rajan Domala Most of the UI and UX bugs are kept on backlog, and those bugs will be there unless users raise it Production. As you rightly said it has to be adapted by dev teams to make UI more user friendly Erin exactly. I have seen that too, @Rajan Domala Venkata Rajesh Varanasi How to figure out the user base and implement the relevant accessibility features. What domain has much importance with respect to implementation of accessibility features Premiere in progress: you're officially one of the first fans to watch this upload. Enjoy this Premiere by watching and chatting with other fans in real-time. Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. Pragya Rathore Erin Can you Please share Addons you use to tes? Pragya Rathore Also do you test on Chrome browser or on all Browsers? Erin @Venkata Rajesh Varanasi that's a tough one to determine if you're the only person considering accessibility. Sometimes, you have to try to find out what that impact is on your own. danda sweetmouni is it comes under functional or nonfunctional? Erin Chrome extensions Erin aXe dev tools (search in chrome store) Kalyani Kenjale could you please explain zoom text only feature of firefox browser in terms of accessibility? Erin WAVE evaluation tool (chrome extension) Erin @Kalyani Kenjale If I understand, you're asking about zoom in FireFox browser? It's useful for visually impared people to make text larger and easier to read. Venkata Rajesh Varanasi Thanks @Erin. also the session is quite informative. This is a great learning in terms of testing in a very different perspective. Pragya Rathore Erin Do you test every single web page for accessibility ? Erin 😀 thank you kindly! Pragya Rathore So critical and medium issues you Log the defect to some defect management tool like JIRA or how you handle Bugs?? Erin @Pragya Rathore not always. If I find a site that only has a few critical or serious issues, and very little moderate or minor ones on ONE page, then it's lower risk. And I might not check all pages. Erin Correct. Pragya Rathore GOtcha Pragya Rathore Cheatsheet danda sweetmouni can we do accessibility testing for every application?if not what is the impact on customer end? Soma Alapati Using automated accessibility testing tools is a great way to start accessibility testing. Using these simple tools we can identify up to 50% of the issues without having any knowledge on accessiblty Erin @Soma Alapati exactly! great point!! Soma Alapati Yes it is possible to do a11y testing on every application Erin @danda sweetmouni you can make that choice. Ultimately if the business isn't pushing you to test accessibility of an application or webpage, then you decide how much effort to put towards it. Soma Alapati Accessibility Insights from Microsoft is a open source and can be useful as a checklist to perform a11y testing. Erin well said @Soma Alapati elbowbump Pragya Rathore Erin share your blog link PLz Soma Alapati I learned something new(funkify) today. Thank you so much. Its a great tool to create empathy towards inclusiveness. Erin I shared my link but I'm not seeing it post. QAFox May be you can break the link and share Erin Erin I'll also leave it in the comments. And we'll update the description of this video with all the relevant links from our demonstrations and tools today. Soma Alapati Lighthouse uses 'Axe' internally. So using open sourced 'Axe Extension'(Axe DevTools) for Chrome/FF/Edge is one of the option to start automated accessibility testing. Pragya Rathore So Soma Alapati using just AXE tool finishes our testing ?? Soma Alapati You can find up to 50% of the issues on any page using this type of automated tools. Erin I'll add my contact info and continue the conversation in the comments!! Erin Thank you all for spending this time with us!! Pragya Rathore ThankYou ! Soma Alapati You have to depends on manual testing for the rest to cover. Ajay Lunia Thanks Erin 🙂 QAFox Thanks Erin 🙂
Having all the documentation and also the reference URLs related to the session under description would be a great help. @QAFox could you please try it
Hi Prashant. You will find that the learning never stops. You will find new information all the time around accessibility and testing. Begin learning by trying to run some accessibility tests on your favorite website. Try to use the website without your mouse and see how far you get without any barriers. Begin to grow your knowledge by reading articles or connecting with #a11y communities.
I wish the uhu sound was not there. It's so annoying. Person who was asking question should have muted himself. Uhu sound like 15 times in a minute is too much.
Keep the conversation going! Erin's Linkedin www.linkedin.com/in/erin-hess Erin on Medium erin-hess.medium.com where you'll find my blog about 7 cool accessibility tools like the ones we demonstrated today (Funkify, NVDA, WAVE, Lighthouse). @QueenTester on twitter
Premiere Chat:
Erin
virtualhug very excited to begin this session soon!
Rishikesh Memane
Hi Ajay/Arun
Ajay Lunia
@Erin :- Waiting from Long to get it premiered 🙂
Ajay Lunia
@Rishikesh Memane :- Hello Rishikesh
QAFox
Hi Erin/Ajay
vinitha Ragamsetty
hi
Pragya Rathore
Can you record and add in your Playlist Please.
vinay ajmera
Hi
mudaseer ahmed
hi
Erin
Hello everyone!! Welcome to this exciting STET @QAFox chillwcat
QAFox
Hello Everyone
Pragya Rathore
Hello Erin
Erin
goodvibes
Suresh Dasari
hi eager to listen
Lokesh Sinha
Can we start with what is accessibility testing?
Ajay Lunia
@Pragya Rathore :- it will remain there you can access this STET Session later as well Under STET Playlist.
Pragya Rathore
OK Thanks
vinay ajmera
Thanks ajay
Md Afsar Ali
Hi Erin
Md Afsar Ali
Can cover bit about accessibility testing in Mobile ? Any automation tool for that ?
Erin
hello and welcome 😀 @Md Afsar Ali , yes we should cover some mobile accessibility in a little bit.
Venkata Rajesh Varanasi
TH-cam supports this kind of captions. Which is now in beta phase but works at least 80%
Erin
There are some open source and chrome extensions I will recommend, such as Lighthouse (chrome extension). And Testim (automated).
Md Afsar Ali
Thanks @Erin
Erin
of course @Md Afsar Ali
Rishikesh Memane
Is there any course or training available to learn accessibility testing? Can we automate accessibility testing? If yes, what all popular tools available?
Erin
great questions @Rishikesh Memane
Lokesh Sinha
In my project we are going to implement this. Hence this session will help a lot. Thanks erin
Erin
I've found that accessibility hasn't been something included in any of my job training, or courses in school. I have mostly had to gain knowledge and experience on my own time.
Md Afsar Ali
For web i think can use Axe ..for automation
Erin
By using some of the tools we're demonstrating for you now 🙂
Erin
Axe is good.
parth patil
does axe have future testing scope?
Erin
Axe launches through dev tools, I had a little hiccup there thinking I needed to hit the browser extension again. shelterin
Erin
@parth patil could you elaborate on your question? Are you asking if it can develop trends on where you may have future accessibility issues?
Md Afsar Ali
How you guys report to the business and how you decide valid issue or severity or priority etc ??
Erin
RIGHT NOW 🙂 I explain
Erin
(great timing question @Md Afsar Ali )
Md Afsar Ali
Great 👍👍
Erin
But essentially, you want to report the Serious and Critical issues right away and bring them to your manager or Lead. Document the minor ones to put in the backlog. And work into sprints.
Erin
elbowbump
Erin
@Rishikesh Memane this may answer your earlier question
Kalyani Kenjale
hie Erin
Erin
welcome @Kalyani Kenjale
Venkata Rajesh Varanasi
How easy or hard to implement accessibility features to our website/app are there any readymade tools or plugins for this.?
Kalyani Kenjale
gestures in mobile instead of using navigation keys user can swipe up trough screen and go back and forth , cn we consider it as an accessibility feature
parth patil
does this Acessibilty testing need coding knowledge?
parth patil
whats are other prerequisiste to excel in accessibilty testing?
Erin
@parth patil you do not need coding knowledge to begin testing accessibility. 🙂
Rajan Domala
In Agile world , how feasible it is to adapt the accessibility testing , considering the Sprint dead lines and resource availability
Erin
@Rajan Domala usually it is something thought about in the early stages of development. And good developers already know some of those best practices as part of their code.
Erin
But it's rather easy to audit for accessibility, and if concerns are found in production, you can bring in those issues into an agile sprint.
danda sweetmouni
where will perform accessibility testing in QA/Stage/prod?
Erin
It's usually something you do on your own, honestly. Unless it's part of the dev process and UI/UX teams are involved that would usually be their duty to enforce those guidelines.
Erin
It helps you as a tester to be aware of all of these things though. To help grow your knowledge and confidence.
Erin
learning
Erin
You are all asking really great questions! Keep them coming. 😀
Ajay Lunia
Awesome guys keep asking questions and clear your doubts directly from Erin The Accessibility Champion.
Rajan Domala
Most of the UI and UX bugs are kept on backlog, and those bugs will be there unless users raise it Production. As you rightly said it has to be adapted by dev teams to make UI more user friendly
Erin
exactly. I have seen that too, @Rajan Domala
Venkata Rajesh Varanasi
How to figure out the user base and implement the relevant accessibility features. What domain has much importance with respect to implementation of accessibility features
Premiere in progress: you're officially one of the first fans to watch this upload. Enjoy this Premiere by watching and chatting with other fans in real-time. Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines.
Pragya Rathore
Erin Can you Please share Addons you use to tes?
Pragya Rathore
Also do you test on Chrome browser or on all Browsers?
Erin
@Venkata Rajesh Varanasi that's a tough one to determine if you're the only person considering accessibility. Sometimes, you have to try to find out what that impact is on your own.
danda sweetmouni
is it comes under functional or nonfunctional?
Erin
Chrome extensions
Erin
aXe dev tools (search in chrome store)
Kalyani Kenjale
could you please explain zoom text only feature of firefox browser in terms of accessibility?
Erin
WAVE evaluation tool (chrome extension)
Erin
@Kalyani Kenjale If I understand, you're asking about zoom in FireFox browser? It's useful for visually impared people to make text larger and easier to read.
Venkata Rajesh Varanasi
Thanks @Erin. also the session is quite informative. This is a great learning in terms of testing in a very different perspective.
Pragya Rathore
Erin Do you test every single web page for accessibility ?
Erin
😀 thank you kindly!
Pragya Rathore
So critical and medium issues you Log the defect to some defect management tool like JIRA or how you handle Bugs??
Erin
@Pragya Rathore not always. If I find a site that only has a few critical or serious issues, and very little moderate or minor ones on ONE page, then it's lower risk. And I might not check all pages.
Erin
Correct.
Pragya Rathore
GOtcha
Pragya Rathore
Cheatsheet
danda sweetmouni
can we do accessibility testing for every application?if not what is the impact on customer end?
Soma Alapati
Using automated accessibility testing tools is a great way to start accessibility testing. Using these simple tools we can identify up to 50% of the issues without having any knowledge on accessiblty
Erin
@Soma Alapati exactly! great point!!
Soma Alapati
Yes it is possible to do a11y testing on every application
Erin
@danda sweetmouni you can make that choice. Ultimately if the business isn't pushing you to test accessibility of an application or webpage, then you decide how much effort to put towards it.
Soma Alapati
Accessibility Insights from Microsoft is a open source and can be useful as a checklist to perform a11y testing.
Erin
well said @Soma Alapati elbowbump
Pragya Rathore
Erin share your blog link PLz
Soma Alapati
I learned something new(funkify) today. Thank you so much. Its a great tool to create empathy towards inclusiveness.
Erin
I shared my link but I'm not seeing it post.
QAFox
May be you can break the link and share Erin
Erin
I'll also leave it in the comments. And we'll update the description of this video with all the relevant links from our demonstrations and tools today.
Soma Alapati
Lighthouse uses 'Axe' internally. So using open sourced 'Axe Extension'(Axe DevTools) for Chrome/FF/Edge is one of the option to start automated accessibility testing.
Pragya Rathore
So Soma Alapati using just AXE tool finishes our testing ??
Soma Alapati
You can find up to 50% of the issues on any page using this type of automated tools.
Erin
I'll add my contact info and continue the conversation in the comments!!
Erin
Thank you all for spending this time with us!!
Pragya Rathore
ThankYou !
Soma Alapati
You have to depends on manual testing for the rest to cover.
Ajay Lunia
Thanks Erin 🙂
QAFox
Thanks Erin 🙂
What are the mobile accessibility checklist
Having all the documentation and also the reference URLs related to the session under description would be a great help. @QAFox could you please try it
Sure, we will update them
How much time do I need to learn the accessibility testing
Hi Prashant. You will find that the learning never stops. You will find new information all the time around accessibility and testing. Begin learning by trying to run some accessibility tests on your favorite website. Try to use the website without your mouse and see how far you get without any barriers. Begin to grow your knowledge by reading articles or connecting with #a11y communities.
I wish the uhu sound was not there. It's so annoying. Person who was asking question should have muted himself. Uhu sound like 15 times in a minute is too much.
Keep the conversation going!
Erin's Linkedin www.linkedin.com/in/erin-hess
Erin on Medium erin-hess.medium.com where you'll find my blog about 7 cool accessibility tools like the ones we demonstrated today (Funkify, NVDA, WAVE, Lighthouse).
@QueenTester on twitter