Excellent. Thanks for the shout out. With the gear I've made from the lawn-edging plastic, I initially used hot-melt glue but have found that it lacks longevity. It seems to become brittle over time and cracks off. What I use now is either lacing the plates on through punched or drilled holes, or, roughening the plastic plates with course sand paper or a wire brush and use Shoe Goo adhesive. That stuff is excellent and available in clear or black. The lawn edging is available in 75mm and 150mm widths -which provides options for making larger plates. I like your score and snap technique. That'll be an excellent way to quickly make many plastic lamellar scales. I've made a lorica segmentata using this stuff as well as vambraces, demi-gauntlets, elbow cops and gorgets. I have also backed plastic plates and appropriate parts of my gamebeson with velcro to make easily mounted and removed plates for heavier fencing. Kind of like how "Jack Chains" were used historically. I'm sure something like "Alamain Rivet" arms pieces should be reasonable easy to produce, too. Cheers!
That's great! Thanks for the info. I like the Lorica shoulders and want to make something looking similar but need to be able to raise arms straight up. Can give advice? Are there sites about armour mobility, making armour etc that you recommend?
Years ago on (I want to say SFI) I suggested something similar, but used a different source for the plastic (I think some 55gal plastic drums I happened to have handy). It wasn't well received, unfortunately, probably because it's very similar to what LARPers have been using for some decades now, really. Cheers!
For the price of the apron you can buy a leon paul chest protector which everyone i know of wears under their spes AP jacket and solves the problem straight up. But you also have to accept that getting a few bruises is just part of HEMA. If you didnt brake a bone its not really much of an issue lol
it does seem like the idea of Newton-rated jackets is kind of a bad option for HEMA. You end up wearing plates on all the important bits anyway, so the jacket just makes you hot and restricted, and at the end of the day it won't actually do you much good if you get stabbed by a broken blade. So yeah, I'd kind of like to see more plate options, but so far they either seem unreasonably bulky or unreasonably expensive. DIY really is the best way to go, and that's what I've done for my (under-the-jacket) foream protectors.
paul this is a great suggestion. it does worry me that you think delivering these strikes is ok. if you strike someone else, isnt that ultimately your responsibility?
I don't want to answer for Paul, but... Wearing extra protective gear is to keep you safe against someone else's lack of control- whether they're a student who hasn't learned complete control or someone who has a rush of blood to the head. "Coaches" fencing gear tends to be more heavily protective than "student's" because of this factor. And, as an instructor you need to let the student hit you for them to learn correctly.
I was having visions of you hurting yourself with the hammer and knife. I'll give this a go the next time I feel hurt enough that I want more protection. I don't use steel (yet) so this is less of a concern.
Excellent.
Thanks for the shout out.
With the gear I've made from the lawn-edging plastic, I initially used hot-melt glue but have found that it lacks longevity. It seems to become brittle over time and cracks off.
What I use now is either lacing the plates on through punched or drilled holes, or, roughening the plastic plates with course sand paper or a wire brush and use Shoe Goo adhesive. That stuff is excellent and available in clear or black.
The lawn edging is available in 75mm and 150mm widths -which provides options for making larger plates.
I like your score and snap technique. That'll be an excellent way to quickly make many plastic lamellar scales.
I've made a lorica segmentata using this stuff as well as vambraces, demi-gauntlets, elbow cops and gorgets.
I have also backed plastic plates and appropriate parts of my gamebeson with velcro to make easily mounted and removed plates for heavier fencing. Kind of like how "Jack Chains" were used historically.
I'm sure something like "Alamain Rivet" arms pieces should be reasonable easy to produce, too.
Cheers!
That's great! Thanks for the info. I like the Lorica shoulders and want to make something looking similar but need to be able to raise arms straight up. Can give advice? Are there sites about armour mobility, making armour etc that you recommend?
Could I ask, what you used to lace the plates? And how do you configure the holes?
Years ago on (I want to say SFI) I suggested something similar, but used a different source for the plastic (I think some 55gal plastic drums I happened to have handy). It wasn't well received, unfortunately, probably because it's very similar to what LARPers have been using for some decades now, really. Cheers!
We've used lawn edging, doubled up, for SCA coats of plate.
Garden edgings damn Genius thanks mate
For the price of the apron you can buy a leon paul chest protector which everyone i know of wears under their spes AP jacket and solves the problem straight up. But you also have to accept that getting a few bruises is just part of HEMA. If you didnt brake a bone its not really much of an issue lol
That chest protector protects only the chest. Paul's solution protects the entire torso and the upper thighs. There's no comparison.
Wisby coat of plates and Bunnings gardening edging have a armour baby. :) Nice,
Temora! I have that exact t-shirt.
it does seem like the idea of Newton-rated jackets is kind of a bad option for HEMA. You end up wearing plates on all the important bits anyway, so the jacket just makes you hot and restricted, and at the end of the day it won't actually do you much good if you get stabbed by a broken blade. So yeah, I'd kind of like to see more plate options, but so far they either seem unreasonably bulky or unreasonably expensive. DIY really is the best way to go, and that's what I've done for my (under-the-jacket) foream protectors.
paul this is a great suggestion. it does worry me that you think delivering these strikes is ok. if you strike someone else, isnt that ultimately your responsibility?
I don't want to answer for Paul, but...
Wearing extra protective gear is to keep you safe against someone else's lack of control- whether they're a student who hasn't learned complete control or someone who has a rush of blood to the head.
"Coaches" fencing gear tends to be more heavily protective than "student's" because of this factor. And, as an instructor you need to let the student hit you for them to learn correctly.
good
I was having visions of you hurting yourself with the hammer and knife. I'll give this a go the next time I feel hurt enough that I want more protection. I don't use steel (yet) so this is less of a concern.
Do you think that you could make a sort of gauntlet out of this plastic or would that not work?
Hard no
SO a coat of plates