I don't have a homestead, but always thought the idea was really cool. Thank you for sharing your projects. It amazes me the amount of rude comments, but I suppose it shouldn't. People get brave behind a keyboard. You do a great job of handling it all. Thanks again for the great video.
It's sputtering like that because it's trying to airlock. The two springs going into one pipe need a settling box or something where they meet to flow into rather than a T. Or pinholes holes drilled in the pipe in high spots to let off some air pressure & just deal with any leaks. That's what I did when my 1100 foot run of pipe airlocked, just drilled holes in the fittings facing upwards so they won't leak unless the pipe is completely full in which case I've got plenty of water anyways
Very lucky to have two sources. Hooking a 1/2@ line into another 1/2@ line would mostly restrict flow from well 1 or 2. At your tee, replace it with a y into a 3/4 line. A colection tank with an overflow will produce more water than one could use. 24 hours a day. You are a lucky guy to have these. Great job. Thanks for sharing your project.
If possible try and avoid using shark bite quick lock fittings, they decrease the id of your pipe causing a restriction. They make a black plastic version that has a larger id for increased flow but it is not reusable. The best option is get a cheap set of crimping pliers and just get plastic fittings the flow will be better, I believe if you ran two separate 1/2" lines or where they come together at the T adapt it to 3/4" and you would get more volume
Alot of water. Congratulations. That blue hose should have been rolled out instead of loops fed out. Hope pipe doesn't freeze. Should have put loose rock in spring to support dirt & acted as a filter. Congratulations! 8kgal/day is my guess. My spring in east Texas is 4kgal/day(32oz/5sec, 3gal/min,4320gal/day. Very blessed. Need to setup a filter&solar pump system.
The pulsing water at the end is likely due to air that is in the hose. I bet overtime that disappears once the temperature increases, and that hose flattens out. That is a nice flow. I agree with others… Whenever you can save up enough money, buy as manytwo or $3000 water tanks and just keep filling them up all year. Just amazing.
I would for go the tee and instead run the two source into a collection box and then run the supply to end use. Another option to incres pressure and flow it use a much larger 3 inch pvc a few feet from the seep supply pipe and put 30 fee of 3 inch pvc down hill to the blue hose and place a plastic barrel were the pipes joint. Smart idea to use multiple sources to provide a stable water supply..
@@stabski33 a food grade 275 gallon IBC is about 100 bucks. It'll work great. But with heavy flow like this even a plastic 50 gallon barrel would probably do fine. Could also use an old equipment tire or a old deep freezer. Or make a concrete tank, or even mortar and stone with this high of a GPM the tank doesn't have to be a bajillion gallons.
Tank can go in the woods on the hill. No platform needed you'll get .43lb of pressure per foot of fall. If its got 50 feet of drop from the tank to the house it'll be around 20 psi. Which is plenty. Dig a trench with a mattock from the top of the hill to the bottom about 6-12 inches deep (or deeper if it's super cold in that area) but then you can just cover the pipe with dirt from above it all around and turn 12 inches deep into 18 easily by mounding it up a bit. I did 330 feet this way this summer. It's deeper than the old line ever was but the old line never froze a bit.
You would increase flow dramatically if you abandon the small diameter PEX for the PVC. PEX is fine under municipal water pressures, but at that length of run, purely gravity fed, you're introducing tons of loss through the PEX.
Either let it flow into a tank and bury a line to the tank and use a submersible pump, or if the flow is heavy enough you can run it through a ram pump and pump like 7 feet high per 1 foot of drop in the pipe going to the ram pump. You can drop it 10 feet to the pump and it'll pump like 70 feet up the mountain. Measure your elevations with google earth and then estimate on the high side to make sure you have plenty of drop to pump it high enough. You'd want to pump it 40-50 feet in elevation above your house to a tank which would then give you good water pressure at the tap from the fall & head pressure. Ram pump is more complicated but doesn't need electricity. But the smallest ram pumps need something like at the very least 1gpm flow from the spring to be viable. So a spring that does 1 GPM in the spring that drops to say .5gpm in a drought or late summer won't work. It needs to produce at least that through the hot and dry season to keep running year round. So it depends somewhat on your situation which way you should go.
@@EthanPDobbins, thank you so much for the comprehensive reply and for taking the time. Drop is approx 6ft, tank sits at +120ft so I don't think the ram pump will work with this setup. The tank could be moved lower but then will certainly need a pump to pump water out. Also the water source is a natural reservoir within a creek - in the summer months when irrigation demand is high, the water flow along the creek (and into the reservoir) isn't high and so non-stop pumping with a ram pump will deplete the reservoir at some point (6 hours? a day?) and then it may take a while for it to refill, plus I've been told it's a bad idea to run a natural reservoir dry. Again, thank you very much for the response and stay safe out there.
@@invisiblesurfer yea for something like that a ram pump definitely won't work out. But I've seen folks dig down into the creek and sit a 5 gallon bucket with a lid and holes drilled into it all around it down in the hole for a temporary shallow well to pump from a creek when it was getting dry. I reckon you could do something similar with just about any pipe or container maybe even concrete it all in around the top to help keep it from washing out. The container is to help keep from sucking gravel and sand up into the pump but you could also just lay the pump in on a piece of thick rubber or with the end on a big flat rock or something to help keep it from sucking sand up off the bottom and wrap the end with fine mesh window screen and cover it with big rocks to keep it in place and keep the leaves and stuff out of it. You still got the same risks of drinking bear poop but tapping into a creek as a reservoir is doable i think.
My guess is that it is pulling air from the first seep since it was like that before he added the 2nd line in. The second seep had a nice smooth flow coming out the end of the pipe before he hooked the pex up. Also, the flow from 2nd seep looks about the max that that pex line can free flow like that. I would check what flow from each line looks like where the two lines are joined and do gpm test there.
Why did you need more than the the flow of the original spring? That looked like just over 1 gal/min which is 1,440 in a 24 hour period. That would be more than enough for 2-3 household(EPA est. 138-400gal/day for a typical family of 4) would be able to use that much water. That is not the proper way to develop a spring. Rule 1: do not disrupt the spring, Rule 2 do not obstruct the out flow. If either of these are not followed the outlet of the spring can move and seep from another location. 5gal/min, why do you need 7,200 gallon of water per day?
I don't have a homestead, but always thought the idea was really cool. Thank you for sharing your projects. It amazes me the amount of rude comments, but I suppose it shouldn't. People get brave behind a keyboard. You do a great job of handling it all. Thanks again for the great video.
Thank you kindly! I appreciate your input and watching. 👍🏻
It's sputtering like that because it's trying to airlock. The two springs going into one pipe need a settling box or something where they meet to flow into rather than a T. Or pinholes holes drilled in the pipe in high spots to let off some air pressure & just deal with any leaks.
That's what I did when my 1100 foot run of pipe airlocked, just drilled holes in the fittings facing upwards so they won't leak unless the pipe is completely full in which case I've got plenty of water anyways
@@EthanPDobbins great info! Thanks 👍🏻
Very lucky to have two sources. Hooking a 1/2@ line into another 1/2@ line would mostly restrict flow from well 1 or 2. At your tee, replace it with a y into a 3/4 line. A colection tank with an overflow will produce more water than one could use. 24 hours a day. You are a lucky guy to have these. Great job. Thanks for sharing your project.
Thank you very much!
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@@FonyaMartin AWESOME!!👏🏻
Great job and very simple system. I love it. I have Landon Kentucky and I found a little seep in two areas and so glad I found this video.
Glad you found it as well. Enjoy your treasure!!!
Very nice video , great water source! I hope it doesn't stop in hot summer. 4 plus gal.per minute! That's good!!
Thank you kindly! Thanks for watching.
If possible try and avoid using shark bite quick lock fittings, they decrease the id of your pipe causing a restriction. They make a black plastic version that has a larger id for increased flow but it is not reusable. The best option is get a cheap set of crimping pliers and just get plastic fittings the flow will be better, I believe if you ran two separate 1/2" lines or where they come together at the T adapt it to 3/4" and you would get more volume
Great ideas!! Thanks for the input. There’s an updated flow report coming out soon. Thank you very much for your feedback.
Excellent
Thank you!!!
Good idea 👍
Thank you kindly!
Alot of water. Congratulations.
That blue hose should have been rolled out instead of loops fed out. Hope pipe doesn't freeze. Should have put loose rock in spring to support dirt & acted as a filter.
Congratulations! 8kgal/day is my guess. My spring in east Texas is 4kgal/day(32oz/5sec, 3gal/min,4320gal/day. Very blessed. Need to setup a filter&solar pump system.
Thank you kindly buddy!! You have great production. I have continuous flow all year so no frozen pipes. Thanks for your viewership!
The pulsing water at the end is likely due to air that is in the hose. I bet overtime that disappears once the temperature increases, and that hose flattens out. That is a nice flow. I agree with others… Whenever you can save up enough money, buy as manytwo or $3000 water tanks and just keep filling them up all year. Just amazing.
Will do my friend. Thanks for watching!
I would for go the tee and instead run the two source into a collection box and then run the supply to end use. Another option to incres pressure and flow it use a much larger 3 inch pvc a few feet from the seep supply pipe and put 30 fee of 3 inch pvc down hill to the blue hose and place a plastic barrel were the pipes joint. Smart idea to use multiple sources to provide a stable water supply..
Very interesting!!! Thanks for the great idea.
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I would put a small tank so the water can be filtered through the tank and you could have a bit of better pressure
I agree. Someday I will.
@@stabski33 a food grade 275 gallon IBC is about 100 bucks. It'll work great. But with heavy flow like this even a plastic 50 gallon barrel would probably do fine.
Could also use an old equipment tire or a old deep freezer. Or make a concrete tank, or even mortar and stone with this high of a GPM the tank doesn't have to be a bajillion gallons.
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Good Job. Good to learn. Is it possible to improve on filtration
@@FonyaMartin wow!! Thanks for watching!
3600 gallons a day, you could fill up a little lake with that. You could put a tank on top of a platform, and not have to use any electricity.
So right!!!🤩💡
Tank can go in the woods on the hill. No platform needed you'll get .43lb of pressure per foot of fall. If its got 50 feet of drop from the tank to the house it'll be around 20 psi. Which is plenty.
Dig a trench with a mattock from the top of the hill to the bottom about 6-12 inches deep (or deeper if it's super cold in that area) but then you can just cover the pipe with dirt from above it all around and turn 12 inches deep into 18 easily by mounding it up a bit. I did 330 feet this way this summer. It's deeper than the old line ever was but the old line never froze a bit.
You would increase flow dramatically if you abandon the small diameter PEX for the PVC. PEX is fine under municipal water pressures, but at that length of run, purely gravity fed, you're introducing tons of loss through the PEX.
Very interesting
Thank you!!
Pvc sucks for this. More expensive and doesn't tolerate the sun. Less durable. Black polypropylene is what's best. But the PEX is ok.
Great stuff man. How would you move the spring water UPHILL if the spring was at a lower level to your property?
Good question, my friend I would consultant expert
Either let it flow into a tank and bury a line to the tank and use a submersible pump, or if the flow is heavy enough you can run it through a ram pump and pump like 7 feet high per 1 foot of drop in the pipe going to the ram pump. You can drop it 10 feet to the pump and it'll pump like 70 feet up the mountain. Measure your elevations with google earth and then estimate on the high side to make sure you have plenty of drop to pump it high enough.
You'd want to pump it 40-50 feet in elevation above your house to a tank which would then give you good water pressure at the tap from the fall & head pressure.
Ram pump is more complicated but doesn't need electricity.
But the smallest ram pumps need something like at the very least 1gpm flow from the spring to be viable. So a spring that does 1 GPM in the spring that drops to say .5gpm in a drought or late summer won't work. It needs to produce at least that through the hot and dry season to keep running year round.
So it depends somewhat on your situation which way you should go.
@@EthanPDobbins, thank you so much for the comprehensive reply and for taking the time. Drop is approx 6ft, tank sits at +120ft so I don't think the ram pump will work with this setup. The tank could be moved lower but then will certainly need a pump to pump water out.
Also the water source is a natural reservoir within a creek - in the summer months when irrigation demand is high, the water flow along the creek (and into the reservoir) isn't high and so non-stop pumping with a ram pump will deplete the reservoir at some point (6 hours? a day?) and then it may take a while for it to refill, plus I've been told it's a bad idea to run a natural reservoir dry.
Again, thank you very much for the response and stay safe out there.
@@invisiblesurfer yea for something like that a ram pump definitely won't work out. But I've seen folks dig down into the creek and sit a 5 gallon bucket with a lid and holes drilled into it all around it down in the hole for a temporary shallow well to pump from a creek when it was getting dry. I reckon you could do something similar with just about any pipe or container maybe even concrete it all in around the top to help keep it from washing out. The container is to help keep from sucking gravel and sand up into the pump but you could also just lay the pump in on a piece of thick rubber or with the end on a big flat rock or something to help keep it from sucking sand up off the bottom and wrap the end with fine mesh window screen and cover it with big rocks to keep it in place and keep the leaves and stuff out of it. You still got the same risks of drinking bear poop but tapping into a creek as a reservoir is doable i think.
@@EthanPDobbins this is a great idea, I will certainly look into it!
How do you keep the pipes from freezing in the winter?
The water flows throughout the winter and the pex does not freeze. Thanks for watching!
Will any part of this system freeze? I know running water will not freeze to a point but wondering how cold it has to get before it does freeze.
Surprisingly not!!🙏🏻
Runs year round.
Cheers
Just mad a new video for you of it running in the winter.
how do you fix that airlock? the water flow not consistent.
I’m happy with the output, so I’m going to leave it be. Do you have a recommendation?
@@stabski33 Put your thumb over the hole and see if the water will force the air out the top.
@@cletushatfield8817 Thanks for the tip!!! I’ll try that out and keep you posted on the results.
My guess is that it is pulling air from the first seep since it was like that before he added the 2nd line in. The second seep had a nice smooth flow coming out the end of the pipe before he hooked the pex up. Also, the flow from 2nd seep looks about the max that that pex line can free flow like that. I would check what flow from each line looks like where the two lines are joined and do gpm test there.
I agree! Great ideas and input. Thanks for your advice.
U need to edit the breathing bro
It’s the Darth Vader and me.
2800 gallons a day that’s phenomenal
Thanks!!! Check out the new video about winter production.
try putting in a tank
It’s on my to do list.
Why did you need more than the the flow of the original spring? That looked like just over 1 gal/min which is 1,440 in a 24 hour period. That would be more than enough for 2-3 household(EPA est. 138-400gal/day for a typical family of 4) would be able to use that much water. That is not the proper way to develop a spring. Rule 1: do not disrupt the spring, Rule 2 do not obstruct the out flow. If either of these are not followed the outlet of the spring can move and seep from another location. 5gal/min, why do you need 7,200 gallon of water per day?
Consistency
Buy a 2500 gallon storage tank and forget about the second line
It’s on the list. Thanks!
should have been a 5 minute video.
Thanks for your viewership!
Hey @sshole I enjoyed the lengthy video. Why dont you make a 5 minute video yourself then? Send me a link and i will let you know what i think.
It looks like you’re getting probably 500 gallons a day just from the first seep, why do all the work to make another one
Attempting to guarantee production. Thank you!!
The inconsistent flow indicates a restriction.
Possibly!! Thanks for your input. Chk out the new video on winter production.
Why aren’t you wearing gloves, and why don’t you have a pickax?
Personal preference!! One with the earth 🌎
Wow, it took you over 18 minutes to do a 3 minute video.
Thanks for watching!!
Should have been a two minute video
I made a new short one just for you. Enjoy!!!👍🏻
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