Aan de WK-finale van 1974 willen veel Nederlanders niet meer terugdenken, het is echt een (onzichtbaar) litteken. Maar het is best interessant om het oogpunt vanuit het andere, het Duitse, persepectief te zien. De “nachtelijke spelersvergadering” in Malente heeft alles veranderd. Het is en blijft erg sneu voor Nederland, maar na de penalty in de eerste minuut hebben ze de Duitsers in de wedstrijd laten komen. En ja oké, tweede helft had Nederland veel pech. Ik vind de Duitsers in deze docu ook best reëel overkomen, want ze geven ook toe dat Nederland de beste ploeg was dat toernooi. Sowieso vind ik Duitsers overall vaak symphatieker over ons praten over dan wij over hun, wat het onderwerp ook is… In Nederlands oogpunt was het een mooi WK, met geen goede afloop.
Dit was zonder meer het beste nationaal elftal die ooit gespeeld heeft op een groot toernooi. Dit was voetbal buiten categorie of van een ander planeet. En mijne favoriet was Rensenbrink alias de Slangemens. Het was een genot om die mannen te zien spelen. En toch blijf ik erbij….met Jan Van Beveren in het doel in ‘74 en ‘78 dan waren jullie 2x wereldkampioen geworden. En dit zijn woorden van een voetbalsupporter uit Vlaanderen.
I was 12 years old when this match was played. My father had been in a german work camp and then rebuilt a ruined country. He had a near fatal heat attack when he was 52. He had worked himself almost to death. For the next 13 years he sat in a chair until he died at 64. He couldn't walk any further then a couple of meters. My mother told him, when the Netherlands (and yes, I am Dutch), reached the finals: "Don't watch this. It might be to much for you." Of course he didn't listen. I was 12 when this match was played and I remember it almost minute by minute, strangely enough. We got 1-0 ahead in the first minute without the germans even touching the football. But this was more then a match. This was payback time for what that generation went through during the war. Also for the players. Many of them had lost their fathers or had to see them come back as broken men. We had the best player in the world, Cruyff. We had the best team. We should have won. And we lost because of bad luck. The germans got a penalty they didn't deserve. My father was pale as a sheet. My mother couldn't stand it anymore and took my by the hand and we went walking in the park near our house. And the park was full people.. Cursing, in groups crying, so angry that they kept on walking for hours. O, for us this was far more then just a football match.
@@normadesmond6017 That's a sad story you told and I understand your point of view. I'm German and I was 10 when the final was played. The Netherlands were the better team but the team that took their chances won. That happens very often. Remember when Barcelona and Bayern were beaten by a destructive playing FC Chelsea. The Netherlands were leading Germany 1:0 and lost anyway. Even when you're the better team if you don't take your chances you are in danger to lose the match. Unfortunately the hate between German and The Netherland teams/fans continued until the early 90 between generations who were born decades after the end of WW2. I never got that. Today I think it's way better - and that's good.
@@leroyrs Agree with you on that point. When the dutch are 1-0 ahead, they think they are already champions. The germans never give up and keep on fighting. that's why we always loose and you always win. But during that time, in 1974 , we had parents who still suffered because of the second world war and we suffered with them. In this time and age it to long ago to make any difference. Were we stupid and arrogant the way we played in 1974? For sure. We felt so much above everybody else because we had Cruyff and the team that we were bound win. But most of all I felt sorry for my dad. He didn t have much of a life because of the war and I just wished that he got his revenge, even if it was only by winning a football match. Today it doesn't matter anymore. Too long ago. But to be very honest, when the Germans win, i still think about my father who died when I was 16. I know this generation has nothing to do with it, but I still do. It makes no sense, but it's engraved into me.
@@leroyrs 2014 i did not mind Germany won they played very well i think the best team with The Neatherlands we won the little final against Brasil and Germany the world cup against Argentine. Both teams played the best football during that worldcup.
Infelizmente não entendo alemão, pois gostaria de entender oque eles comentam desta derrota da Alemanha Ocidental para a Alemanha Oriental, na minha opinião perderam de propósito, para não jogar contra Brasil, Holanda e Argentina.
Incrível como Gerd Müller, tem uma habilidade para marcar este tipo de gol foi assim contra a Polônia no jogo da semifinal, contra o Cruzeiro na final do interclubes de 1976, no primeiro jogo em Munique, gols com a mesma semelhança.
You forget the 3rd German goal in second half which was called offside by the ref although the striker was onside by a country mile, ok more than 1 meter
Ik denk dat dat in 1978 en 2010 wel mee viel hoor. Iedere finale heeft weer zijn eigen verhaal. 1978 had Nederland nooit kunnen winnen vanwege corruptie en 2010, tja, pech..
err, no? first of all, when you say "north of", it obviously doesn't mean a perfectly straight line. but even if you went exactly 100 km to the north of hamburg, you'd still be on land. somewhere near gettorf to be precise
Si vemos las dos finales no podemos achacar las derrotas a Jongbloed,es fútbol es resultadista,Brasil fue campeón con Felix en 1970, Argentina con Pumpido el 86, incluso fueron finalistas con Goycochea el 90 sin ser goleados por brasileños en octavos, Italia en semis y Alemania en la final,y no precisamente por el arquero,o Francia el 98,el tener buen o mal arquero es relativo
hamlet doubt can win holland with hulshoff and not rijsbergen muller is a crack but see rijsbergen in action of two goals rijsbergen is like longobucco in the final ajax juventus nobody sorry marco from la spezia italy
![[MV] A leap of faith...ความเชื่อใจครั้งสุดท้าย (From "Petrichor the series")](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1piZH2CNXA/mqdefault.jpg)
Full match: www.bitchute.com/video/Dg7PKPBYtcYE
Aan de WK-finale van 1974 willen veel Nederlanders niet meer terugdenken, het is echt een (onzichtbaar) litteken. Maar het is best interessant om het oogpunt vanuit het andere, het Duitse, persepectief te zien. De “nachtelijke spelersvergadering” in Malente heeft alles veranderd. Het is en blijft erg sneu voor Nederland, maar na de penalty in de eerste minuut hebben ze de Duitsers in de wedstrijd laten komen. En ja oké, tweede helft had Nederland veel pech. Ik vind de Duitsers in deze docu ook best reëel overkomen, want ze geven ook toe dat Nederland de beste ploeg was dat toernooi. Sowieso vind ik Duitsers overall vaak symphatieker over ons praten over dan wij over hun, wat het onderwerp ook is… In Nederlands oogpunt was het een mooi WK, met geen goede afloop.
Dit was zonder meer het beste nationaal elftal die ooit gespeeld heeft op een groot toernooi. Dit was voetbal buiten categorie of van een ander planeet. En mijne favoriet was Rensenbrink alias de Slangemens. Het was een genot om die mannen te zien spelen. En toch blijf ik erbij….met Jan Van Beveren in het doel in ‘74 en ‘78 dan waren jullie 2x wereldkampioen geworden. En dit zijn woorden van een voetbalsupporter uit Vlaanderen.
jongbloed stond er inderdaad als een zoutzat bij, bij de de twee goals.
Zijn we er toch ingetuind... Interessante visie van Duitse kant waarom zij wel wonnen.
De beste keeper ter wereld zat thuis: Jan van Beveren. Schuldige: Johan Cruijff
En blessure Robbie Rensenbrink.
Nee.....zucht....Van Beveren was niet fit.
@@ghostpost905 Van Beveren en Van der kuylen werden door Cruyf en Michels gediscrimineerd omdat het boeren uit het zuiden waren
Franz Beckenbauer is overleden
Cruyff was de enige reden dat Nederland zo goed was
Nobody thought that any team could beat the Netherlands in that Workd Cup because of their dominance. Well that's what I love about football.
But at that It was the arrogance of The Netherlands that cost a big trophy
I was 12 years old when this match was played. My father had been in a german work camp and then rebuilt a ruined country. He had a near fatal heat attack when he was 52. He had worked himself almost to death. For the next 13 years he sat in a chair until he died at 64. He couldn't walk any further then a couple of meters. My mother told him, when the Netherlands (and yes, I am Dutch), reached the finals: "Don't watch this. It might be to much for you." Of course he didn't listen. I was 12 when this match was played and I remember it almost minute by minute, strangely enough. We got 1-0 ahead in the first minute without the germans even touching the football. But this was more then a match. This was payback time for what that generation went through during the war. Also for the players. Many of them had lost their fathers or had to see them come back as broken men. We had the best player in the world, Cruyff. We had the best team. We should have won. And we lost because of bad luck. The germans got a penalty they didn't deserve. My father was pale as a sheet. My mother couldn't stand it anymore and took my by the hand and we went walking in the park near our house. And the park was full people.. Cursing, in groups crying, so angry that they kept on walking for hours. O, for us this was far more then just a football match.
@@normadesmond6017 That's a sad story you told and I understand your point of view. I'm German and I was 10 when the final was played. The Netherlands were the better team but the team that took their chances won. That happens very often. Remember when Barcelona and Bayern were beaten by a destructive playing FC Chelsea. The Netherlands were leading Germany 1:0 and lost anyway. Even when you're the better team if you don't take your chances you are in danger to lose the match. Unfortunately the hate between German and The Netherland teams/fans continued until the early 90 between generations who were born decades after the end of WW2. I never got that. Today I think it's way better - and that's good.
@@leroyrs Agree with you on that point. When the dutch are 1-0 ahead, they think they are already champions. The germans never give up and keep on fighting. that's why we always loose and you always win. But during that time, in 1974 , we had parents who still suffered because of the second world war and we suffered with them. In this time and age it to long ago to make any difference. Were we stupid and arrogant the way we played in 1974? For sure. We felt so much above everybody else because we had Cruyff and the team that we were bound win. But most of all I felt sorry for my dad. He didn t have much of a life because of the war and I just wished that he got his revenge, even if it was only by winning a football match. Today it doesn't matter anymore. Too long ago. But to be very honest, when the Germans win, i still think about my father who died when I was 16. I know this generation has nothing to do with it, but I still do. It makes no sense, but it's engraved into me.
@@leroyrs 2014 i did not mind Germany won they played very well i think the best team with The Neatherlands we won the little final against Brasil and Germany the world cup against Argentine. Both teams played the best football during that worldcup.
Vert glad Netzer burst out laughing towards the end of his explanation of why he was, in fact, a world cup winner despite only playing 15 minutes.
Infelizmente não entendo alemão, pois gostaria de entender oque eles comentam desta derrota da Alemanha Ocidental para a Alemanha Oriental, na minha opinião perderam de propósito, para não jogar contra Brasil, Holanda e Argentina.
Incrível como Gerd Müller, tem uma habilidade para marcar este tipo de gol foi assim contra a Polônia no jogo da semifinal, contra o Cruzeiro na final do interclubes de 1976, no primeiro jogo em Munique, gols com a mesma semelhança.
Nederlanders kunnen fantastisch voetballen maar ze vergeten vaak door te drukken.
@Cédric Dufais nee niet echt
Barry Hulshoff was missing for this WC. He was the missing piece of puzzle in the defense.
How good is he ?
Hulshoff? Rijsbergen was een de uitblinkers. Wie echt gemist werden: Jan van Beveren en Rinus Israel.
Dirigent Johan .
Niederlande was the best Team To watch!
You forget the 3rd German goal in second half which was called offside by the ref although the striker was onside by a country mile, ok more than 1 meter
I remember watching this game live. Forgot about the 3 sitters Cruyff laid on for Rep, all of which he missed. We won't talk about them either.
zijn we er toch ingetuind zegt herman kuiphof;hoe kan hij dat weten? na 1 half uur spelen😢
De 1 -0 kwam veel te snel
Wij nederlanders hebben ook vaak een beetje last van arogantie, van dat doen we gewoon even; wij zijn toch veel beter. Tja, koste ons 3 Wereld titels.
Ik denk dat dat in 1978 en 2010 wel mee viel hoor. Iedere finale heeft weer zijn eigen verhaal. 1978 had Nederland nooit kunnen winnen vanwege corruptie en 2010, tja, pech..
Interessante você falar em arrogância holandesa, pois para mim arrogância é uma característica bem forte do povo alemão.
Cruyff de beste voetballer nota bene heeft het verneukt
We hadden geen goede libero, hij verdedigde verkeerd bij beide duitse goals.
'100km north of Hamburg...' That's, err, in the Baltic isn't it?
err, no? first of all, when you say "north of", it obviously doesn't mean a perfectly straight line. but even if you went exactly 100 km to the north of hamburg, you'd still be on land. somewhere near gettorf to be precise
@@SimonSchulze-hf3iv Oops. You appear to be right!
1:35 HAHAHA. Hij denkt: wat doe ik hier?
Si vemos las dos finales no podemos achacar las derrotas a Jongbloed,es fútbol es resultadista,Brasil fue campeón con Felix en 1970, Argentina con Pumpido el 86, incluso fueron finalistas con Goycochea el 90 sin ser goleados por brasileños en octavos, Italia en semis y Alemania en la final,y no precisamente por el arquero,o Francia el 98,el tener buen o mal arquero es relativo
gutes tag , schlechtes tag .
👀👽
Tja Nederland was beter maar ze waren arrogant…
kleines dickes mueller .
Porém marcava muito gols.
Germany started against Eastern Germany, they lost by a goal of Sparwasser !
hamlet doubt can win holland with hulshoff and not rijsbergen muller is a crack but see rijsbergen in action of two goals rijsbergen is like longobucco in the final ajax juventus nobody sorry marco from la spezia italy
als aadje mansveld er was hadden ze opzeker gewonnen
Rinus Israel, ouwe pik.
Ik zie twee enorme verdedigende missers.
Beckenbauer died
Nice