This is all true. But if you spend a lifetime looking for the existence of the supernatural and all you find is it's absent. I think on some moment in time you should conclude that maybe it's just not there.
@Kittitee Sriraksa science.is not about truth. Science is about finding the most accurate description of natural phenomenon based on th data and knowledge we have. Science is about knowing that there is much we don't know. And we can scratch the service but reaching the bottom will take so incredibly much more time.
@@kimjongun5172the atheist communist party of China has multiple Millions of minorities concentrated in reeducation and forced labor camps right now. Tell me how you feel about that.
Religion and spirituality should be a private quest for everyone, as it’s different for all. Reason and logic should be shouted from the rooftops, for everyone. As it’s the same for all. Because without both ideologies, humanity will never flourish. ( btw- I’m a Sikh boy )
I am still convinced that all religions with their gods are ridiculous. And by the way buddhism is not a religion, it is a common misunderstand. The buddha himself reject the idea of god. The core of buddhism is the teaching that lead to self-realization of truth. If you want to realize the truth, follow his teaching, there is no need to blindly worship any god.
@@infinitemonkey917 Evidence? And what do you think about this argument of mine? Apostle Paul wrote some angry or at least passionate letters to the Galatians and Corinthians mentioning miracles in them happening among those people. If miracles hadn't happen there, then he would have made himself ridiculous in their eyes - but his purpose was to make them take him seriously. So it is logical that miracles did happen with them and Paul. But if they did why could they not have happened with the other apostles and Jesus, too? And if they did, then why could not be true everything the Gospels describe? Luke, Paul's friend, an eye-wittness wrote about miracles happening with Paul. Was he right then - as real miracles did happen with Paul as we know from his letters? Did Luke tell the truth? But did he still have to lie in connection with Jesus? This would not be logical. Paul's letters are authentic and realistic. And from them a few logical steps lead to the accounts of the Gospels about Jesus being true.
The view of religions is different - with Buddhism clearly it is said to be a Teacher faith In life one meets many Teachers, not one The goal is Enlightenment, Knowledge Hinduism gets ignored because of the dark skin of its followers but clearly the Hindu Gods are our Teachers We welcomed the Buddha as one of our Teachers In any other land, the Buddha would have been branded a heretic, an apostate and been burnt to death, same as Giordano Bruno The top two - that is the sad part - are Master/Slave religions The goal is eternal pleasures of the flesh Every time I ask theists to describe a day in Heaven, what does one DO there, they run away Master will GIVE those pleasures of the flesh, they cannot be earned Therefore, we must beg & grovel to the Master and no other Amazing how religions using cheap promises of the easy good life can turn bright educated people into their slaves blindly serving religion
The most versatile tool in history. It serves a multitude of purposes. Unknowable ,unproveable, un answerable, indisputable. Whats the difference between believe and make -believe? No one knows.
@@cnault3244 Is it not obvious? Can you not watch someone jump off a high building, figure out gravity is fundamental, without having to jump yourself? Why would your personal jump produce a different outcome? If you believe harder than someone else, you might just fly? If your life is worth the risk, by all means jump.
Another great episode of CCT, thank you! This really brings us some answers, as it shows that only 1 or none of the religions practiced in the world can be really true. Most likely, none of them are true, at least not literally. The last guest speaker summarized it well: it all depends what you are looking for, spiritual fulfillment or objective truth. It looks like most religious people are really looking for spiritual fulfillment, while rational people are looking for objective truth. In that sense, science and religion serve different purposes.
On this subject you should also interview Ken Wilber, neither atheist nor member of a particular religion, who developed and wrote extensively on the concept of perennial philosophy.
This series feels like trying to put the idea of God into a box. It is less about finding God and more about making God conform to a narrow set of ideals. The concept of God will never fit in the box...impossible to truly comprehend.
Each speaker selected seemed to lack any compelling insights into the question, in my opinion. The over simplified answer seems to lie in the proposition that God has the means to clear all the questions......and elects not to, or cannot because of a lack of existence.
Their is something beyond something.NOT any religions nothing to do with it. We are here connected in the universe from cause and effect. Just laws.🤗Japan.
Just like a glass of water is pure when someone ads poison to it ,it is no longer good for you.Religions have many good qualties and truth but Unfortunatly they are adding some untruth to there teachings
Jewish Rubbi at 12-16 _"Just because a person thinks, my religion is better than other religions, does that mean we have to persecute people of other religions"_ . It was Muslims in Palestine have demonstrated such value through out the history. Whatever idea Jews preaches on this video, they cannot even standby it, in the light of what Jews are doing to people of Palestine.
Very interesting question. My religion, spiritism, does teach that all religions are right in a way, and that their different explanations exist to fullfil the need of each group of humans on Earth, like how schools teach the same subject over the course of many years but always deepening the student's understanding, appropriately for their age. Spiritism believes that we are immortal spirits, in different stages of evolution, that's why we need many explanations, to fulfill our needs in our evolutionary stages. Jesus even mentions it when questioned about marriage, where Moses said divorce their wives under certain circumstances, Jesus said they shouldn't, and told that Moses thought them that way because their hearts were too brute, and those that could marry without divorcing should do so. My spiritist branch is universalist, stimulating the study of other religions and beliefs in order to see the truth behind the dogmas and rituals, to see the universal truth through the many perspectives the world has to offer, and always thinking on what fits us best, what can be helpful on our lives, what can we take from another religion that really matters. Spiritism in general teach us to think rationally about our faith, because no one can be followed blindly, not even the spirits, as they're humans like us.
As an atheist myself I don't think atheism means rejection of everything taught by all the world's various religions. It also doesn't mean rejection of believers, or even thinking of myself as "better than" believers. However, if a Christian (for example) thinks I'm going to Hell, that's a problem. What I'd like believers to understand is that, in effect, they all belong to exclusive clubs. They'll say it isn't true -- that anyone can become a Christian, or a Muslim, or whatever, but I'd be an imposter in any of these religions because they all require me to believe at least one thing that I'm simply not capable of believing. If I claimed to believe I'd just be lying (and an all-seeing God would surely know that).
You misunderstand - these religions made God in the image of the master of the past - the King/Dictator - back in the day that was life If you wanted to live in the King's country, you have to swear loyalty(belief) otherwise no King would allow you to live in his kingdom Think Putin, Saddam - you are in Russia - you think you can speak out against Putin? That's the sad thing here In the 21st century, the top religions are Communist Dictator-style religions Get down on our knees, beg, grovel and be rewarded! And these are highly educated, intelligent people! Frightening really!
Zarathustra:"This is just my way: where is yours? Thus I answered those who asked of me the way. For the way does not exist!" [Thus Spoke Zarathustra, 3.11]
Luckily, you are free to be educated about these religions (say, from books or from persons) and clarify if they seem to be true or not - if you are concerned with their claim you would go to hell.
if a religion need to kill just to prove there is a god, i choose blasphemy cause i know in my deep soul that god doesn't work like that, god is uncondicional love and the only enemy is my own ego u dont need to fear hell to help others
Some might say that ignoring ages of philosophy and religion is egoism,However I agree that Fear plays a very big role in religions and belief systems. But I will never deny or approve of anything I think if you compared the vast universe to our little brains it will be difficult to conclude anything. My only base is Questioning and seeking the truth if there is one, though I probably won't reach it.
@@ShowUsTruth the problem is not what u believe, everyone has the freedom to believe anything, but to force others to share the same beliefs is a mistake personally i believe in god but not the one in relegion cause it makes no sense
@@slimwolf7434 The fear if others doesn't share your view you might be wrong probably what cause this.The fight between human mind and his instinct shall never stops.
Wow. You have it exactly right. Glad to know you. It really comes down to a question that I'm trying to make popular - "Are you just a human or are you a human BEING?"
These are discussions for those who are seekers. I would propose that we might stop looking at the process from the human perspective but look at it from God’s perspective. God is a loving light consciousness who is aware of all religions. His job is to work with all of them as they are and provide guidance, support and validation through those vehicles as they present themselves. He’s only got us to work with and we all have different minds but he Dose work with us.
@@v.sandrone4268 The amazing ability of religions to make cheap promises of the easy lazy life for eternity and brainwash even the best to be slaves of religion Zero evidence & so "it will happen only if you believe, God is like Saddam, Stalin - He will reward you if you beg & grovel only to him & no other" And even the best of educated blindly become slaves of religion
It is not about all the religions or what I call organizations-it is the desire to seek within yourself how you would want God to be-God or Spirit is within us-I believe in the creator of the universe-I do believe in Yashua, but I find wisdom in the sayings of Buddha and I meditate and pray. Therefore,in all good things I seek, Forgive,love, and always give glory and Thanks to my Father, the creator of everything.My beliefs also stem from experiences, I do believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins, but I do not limit myself to being a CHristian-because there are many wise prophets that expand my mind and as long as I am finding peace, sharing love,being honest,and giving thanks-more shall come on my journey-such as more wisdom and enlightenment.
The plethora of verbal gymnastics is stunning when these people try to explain something they have no answers to and no proof of. Any belief that applies rules and conditions to its 'believers' is no more than a manmade control system.
The late Gerald Priestland of the BBC, an atheist turned Quaker, presented a radio series on the variety of religious belief. He ended it, making himself a cup of tea (as I recall), and saying that if all the expert and sincere adherents to those faiths he had met on his travels were to gather together in his room, there might not be agreement, but there would be warmth, and calm and quietness between them. I like that very much.
I believe you have to look deeply within, clear the mind, forget anything you were taught as a child, then take a deep breath and apply logic. Logically religions contradict themselves, plus there are some strong disciplines and acts within many religions which go far beyond any moral values. Would I follow a judgemental god, the answer is 'no', would I follow a god that allows cruelty and suffering in the young and innocent, then again the answer is 'no'. Can I believe a mythical figure high up in the sky that created everything, sees everything and has a 'plan', then again the answer is no. I don't have a belief, I have logic and values and for me they keep me rooted deeply in reality.
But actually every thing is a belief. We only know what we think we know thru our senses. And who's to say. That there acurrat. We may. Not exist at all like we think just a big imagination. Or a matrix. A simulation. As that old saying goes I believe I exist therefore. I am. Beyond that. There is no real proof. Just a belief.
As Muslim, I believe in supreme, almighty God, and believe in all his messengers their messages , and and I believe that God is the creator of spacetime and the matter we made of, and the life we live, therefore, Islam is the right religion
@@heloisaheng3189 what's a bit odd about christianity is that, they take Jesus as God, while Jesus is just a human being who eats food, drink water just like the rest of us. But God is one and only one God, has no son no daughter, He the almighty has creatures, he creates, if you know what I mean?...
@@heloisaheng3189 God is the powerful, the supreme, the almighty, the great, he does need food or drink or anything else to survive, infact he is eternal which means he is not submitted to laws of time, space, laws of physics or anything else, God is above all of that , he created us as his intelligent creature, and created other creatures around us, how could you worship someone who has the same needs as you to survive or to live ? Doesn't make sense does it?
@@ismailguelmouss2009 I’m not saying that He need those to survive, but do you mean He needs your worship to survive? when you’re suffering can God understand your suffering?
🤔…..certainly a excellent video presentation with fine “experts”. Meanwhile, billions of humans wake up each day - some scratch out a living to survive, some live In opulence, while others suffer horrific treatment and die in misery and hopelessness…..never having the opportunity nor the time to contemplate and/or research what is “truth”. Billions upon billions of human lives have come and gone over the many thousands of years of our existence. There is NOT ONE organized religion that has addressed them all.
( 29 ) Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled. Surat Taouba verse 29
@@peaceandlove988 "Fight for the cause of Allah/Creator those that fight against you,but do not attack them first.Allah/Creator does not love the Aggressors." Holy Quran 2:190
@@peaceandlove988 Would anybody give viewpoint on a Shakespeares Novel never once having read it from cover to cover? But everybody has viewpoint on Islam never once having read Holy Quran from cover to cover?😂
lol and NOT ONE MUSLIM MAJORITY NATION IS SECULAR In countries like Pakistan, all the laws are changed to favor Islam All the top jobs are reserved for Muslims, Muslims can convert others, but no one is allowed to convert a Muslim The Koran is full of incidents where Muslims use threats to pus conversions Amazing blindness
Could something be missing? Yes there could, simply because humanity had destroyed many books as a result of war and imperialistic invasions. I can imagine some Maya books giving us better enlightenment if only they weren't destroyed.
I always say if the Buddha had been born in Christian or Muslim lands he would have been branded a heretic, an apostate and been tortured and lynched to death! His writings burnt, his followers killed! There would be no Buddhism today What is sad is that in the 21st century the top religions are Communist/Dictator-style religions that insist that only they are right, only their way or else! Dark-skinned Hinduism gets ignored even though it has been preaching Democratic ideas So much for all our education and preaching of morals
Wow! Richard Swinburne is brilliant, and yet he pins his entire Christian belief on the unverifiable,resurrection of some dude known as Jesus of Nazareth. .
It is always stunning how religious beliefs prove themselves in endless circles using mere assumptions as facts. Among all of them Judaeism seems to be the most creative (in a positive sense), but that only means it's going in slightly bigger circles .😎
@@cosmikrelic4815 Not sure tho. I think religion is true in the sense that it is present in humanity and has had an evolutionary advantage. It is true in the sense that it works.
@@cosmikrelic4815 Most likely group cohesion / support and a way to cope with knowledge of our mortality. Things that were once advantageous for evolution can change though. Rape was once an evolutionary advantage.
Hello - As long as one believes, that is the essence of all religions, which come in regular periods of every 2160 years. Each one introduces a fresh facet of human evolution, the Christian for instance - introspection/meditation (prayer). Look at the Mona Lisa. Why is she enigmatic? Because she is engaged in the interior life. She is a thinking being with a secret that she is withholding from us. All religions are as pearls on the golden thread of truth. Lord Krishna states: ``When religiosity declines, I descend Myself on all the worlds of the Universe.'' There is liberation and final ascension for all. The time this will take is known only to the highest Initiates. The figure has an astonishing number of zeros added on the end. Enough said. Blessings - RevDrD
The Host of Closer to the Truth., Mr, Rob. Since I have been following your program, I learned a lot of things about the invisible world and the visible world. Thanks for that. From the personal perspective I realized that you have been not only searching the " TRUTH " however, you have been praying unknowingly to the real God who did manifested himself in Christ Jesus to revels to you. Mr, Rob. You looking for the " TRUTH " ? actually, the " TRUTH " have been looking for you and waiting you at your door step to enter and reveled himself to you. The " TRUTH " is knocking you door, and you searching to enter his door? . May God Revelers the truth you have been searching. even though, he is at your door knocking knocking knocking? you should respond he will reveal to you. you and your guests and your viewers have been in my prayers lists that may the real God who created the current universe and gives an eternal life to reveled to us. hopefully, the " TRUTH " will find you before you leave this planet earth.
Only if the scriptures of a certain religion does not conflict with CLEAR PROVEN scientific FACTS. Another condition must be fulfilled, that's the scriptures must contain information (that was not known to the world when it was revealed) that was confirmed later on by proven scientific FACTS. Only then we can consider that religion to be true..
They can't all be true when they have major conflicting teachings. Seems like at this point we need to wait for Armageddon and let God sort it out, but sadly, someone will be wrong.
In medieval times in Rome, the Pope, influenced by some conservative advisers, decided to expel all Jews from the city The Pope, not wanting to seem as forcing his decision on the Jews, allowed a debate to be held so the Jews could defend their citizenship. That night, the Jewish Rabbis gathered in the synagogue to decide who will debate against the Pope. However none of the Rabbis wanted to debate against him, so they started arguing. The synagogue janitor, who was attracted to the commotion, volunteered to oppose the Pope. "You are just a janitor, how could you possibly win in a debate against the pope?" said the chief Rabbi. But since nobody else was brave enough to volunteer, the janitor was chosen. On the day of the debate, the Pope walked onto the stage with his advisers, all dressed in white and wearing golden crosses. The janitor also walked onto the stage, surrounded by the oldest Rabbi with their long beards and black garments. The debate began. The Pope immediately pointed at the janitor and then at the sky. Without hesitation, the janitor pointed at the ground beneath his feet. The Pope then pointed at the janitor with his finger, and the janitor responded by pointing three fingers at the Pope. Next, the pope took out an apple from his pocket and held it in the air. The janitor reached into a paper bag at his waist, and took out a flatbread. The Pope looked surprised, and announced that they would not expel the Jews. Back at the cathedral, the Pope's advisers asked the Pope,"Father, the exchange during the debate was too difficult for us to follow, please explain what happened." The Pope replied: "I first pointed at the heavens and the earth, indicating God's marvelous creations. But the Jew pointed at the ground, telling me that hell exist too. I then pointed at him with one finger, telling him that only one God exists. But the Jew countered that by pointing three fingers at me, acknowledging the holy trinity. I then abandoned theology for science, and held out an apple, showing how people think the earth is round even though the scriptures state the earth to be flat. The Jew held out a flatbread, acknowledging that the earth is flat as the scriptures teach. I could not find fault with his argument so I withdrew." In the synagogue, the janitor also had to explain what happened during the debate. "So he points at me as if to tell me to get out, but I want to stay right here, so I point at the ground. He then points one finger at me to curse me to death, so I point three fingers at him to curse him three times. Then he brings out his lunch, so I bring out mine
I'm not sure why someone who doesn't believe seeks to determine the truth about whether there is a God. Let the believers demonstrate it, is how I feel. I understand that some people see the lovely things that some believers believe about their God and their religion and for some reason they want the same things. My feeling is that I'm completely uninterested in what any of the religions claim, no matter how beautiful and lovely they are, until there's a reason to believe any of what they're claiming is true. And because there is such a long and deep history of humans making up the most core claims of their faith, I tend to doubt any of them are true.
Just the fact that there are a multitude of religions testifies as evidence that the spirit of the source of reality indwells the minds of all humans and draws them inward, regardless of how those human minds distort and interpret that reality. This includes atheists.
Buddhism resonates with me more. Spiritual matters or life is a personal journey. Inclusive also. You cant force other people to believe in your religion. Let them discover their path. A lot of religious people say their religion is superior but it doesnt manifest in their everyday living. They judge, hurt, and persecute other people with different beliefs. Physical body loves division and labels. In spiritual we are all connected.
stuntard said, "define truth". I agree with that. So far, for me, physics is the only objective truth. If one states "the earth is round", that is objectively true. I'm waiting for physics to prove the existence of God. For me, religion just doesn't do it. I don't care what religion it is.
You could prove that she had a great great grandfather if you had enough knowledge of every particle currently on earth. Conservation of information in quantum physics demands such a thing. Now, she can't prove it you, but that's a lack of technology, not truth. (Now, if she's an alien hacking youtube from another 🌎, you just need a bigger machine)
Physics is proof that reality is inherently paradoxical. Truth in Physics only exists where you can predict the outcome of an experiment. Dropping a ball will end in it falling to the ground... True. The paradox is that even though we know the outcome of the experiment. We actually don't know if the ball falls to the ground or if it the ground rushes up to the ball. In reality it is this weird superposition state of being both and neither at the same, but what makes the most sense to our brains is simply imagining that the Earth has "Gravity" and attracts smaller objects, when really that is the simplest way to think about it and not the full story. An object in free fall from its own perspective is actually totally weightless and floating. There are so many things in physics that immediately twists your brain into knot where truth is actually impossible and if you really want to understand you have to just let it go. How long is a second of time? such a simple question that is easily answered with a watch, but if you really think about it you realize that the thing we call a second of time is actually completely intangible and impossible to represent in any way that isn't arbitrary to reality in some way there fore that second of time doesn't actually exist and sure enough Our system for measuring time is an abstraction that represents information about reality while itself being a manifestation. I think if your look to physics for Objective truth about the world you need to learn about physics more because, the key isn't fitting the lock here.
@Margaret Chase I don't think you have developed a great sense of God in childhood but least understand the concept of God in Islam. You had a chance to read the Quran?
I find it preposterously arrogant to claim that you know much about God. A being that must be infinitely beyond our comprehension. We can’t even figure out our own cosmos, how could we understand god? To claim that it is right to rest on the Sunday and wrong to rest on the Friday is ridiculous. Why on earth would god care at all and what evidence is there that your way is the right way? All you have is the words of other humans, which we all know are very fallible.
Yes. But perhaps you have read about the anthropic principle. And what do you think about this argument of mine? Apostle Paul wrote some angry or at least passionate letters to the Galatians and Corinthians mentioning miracles in them happening among those people. If miracles hadn't happen there, then he would have made himself ridiculous in their eyes - but his purpose was to make them take him seriously. So it is logical that miracles did happen with them and Paul. But if they did why could they not have happened with the other apostles and Jesus, too? And if they did, then why could not be true everything the Gospels describe? Luke, Paul's friend, an eye-wittness wrote about miracles happening with Paul. Was he right then - as real miracles did happen with Paul as we know from his letters? Did Luke tell the truth? But did he still have to lie in connection with Jesus? This would not be logical. Paul's letters are authentic and realistic. And from them a few logical steps lead to the accounts of the Gospels about Jesus being true.
@@eraofrage my friend, I'm not uneducated. I've studied mathematics and quantum mechanics, and the Bible and the Quran thoroughly-believe it or not. The way the Quran treats women is shameful and same goes for the Bible. Even if there's a God, he's definitely not all-loving and omni-benevolent, and all those bullshit stuff. The amount of suffering you see around you is painful, women being raped, innocent children being murdered. I mean what more can you ask for?Please try to bring about some radical changes in science and technology that will shape the future. Thanks.
I just wish we could get some answers...I've been struggling so much lately in life with what is reality, what sparked the creation of our universe, what lies beyond the physical....I've been so lost and I don't know what to do.....
I wonder if you have problems in your life that are bothering you which you are trying to escape from and if you would be better served by focusing your energy on solving those problems, rather than hoping for answers to the mysteries of life to give you guidance ... there are no such answers. Philosophy is best enjoyed by those who are fulfilled by asking the questions, not really those who need the answers. It's been a month since you posted this. Hopefully you are feeling better by now.
We are not criminals - why the abusive language? We know that we totally ignore the suffering that we cause to animals and the environment The male Chicks are unwanted by the poultry industry. Each and every day, these day old babies are dumped into plastic bags and are either suffocated to death or dumped into shredders ALIVE, where they are cut to pieces! If you believe in what you say, then you will be heading straight to hell
@@ramaraksha01 What abusive language? What does abuse even mean, but what we want it to mean? Why does abuse occur in nature if it should not be part of the natural order? Lions kill their own cubs, birds reject their chicks who fall out of the nest or simply can't be fed. Suffering has always been part of living.
@@k.a.3247 I guess religion has brainwashed us so much that we don't even recognize abusive language when we read it. It's his use of the word hell & the easy threats that is abusive The very concept of Hell makes my skin crawl - torture is the answer? In Saudi Arabia they lash people for minor offenses, thieves get their arms cut off. In Afghanistan they kill/rape/torture people for not being Muslim or for other "offenses" Have we not moved on from such primitive and disgusting practices? - but religion is stuck with these sick words He uses the word Hell so easily - I was told that since I was Hindu, our people would be set apart like Jews under Hitler & dumped into gas chambers in hell old people, children, babies! pregnant woman - all so callously dumped into hell that is the "consequence" that he talks about - willing Nazis ready to dump innocents into gas chambers in hell
@@ramaraksha01 Hell is supposed to be repulsive so you would do what you need to avoid it, it's by design. You are afraid of the idea of hell, having never seen or experienced it. But fear itself is all you should be afraid of. Why should such a place exist? What could we possibly do to deserve an eternity in such a nightmare? Why would a god create such a place. The Taliban are repulsive to everyone but themselves. They believe they are following the orders of their god, just like everyone else. Should their god be any less real than the others? Heaven and Hell are perfect examples of the human psyche. Nobody can be good enough to deserve heaven, or bad enough to deserve hell.
@@k.a.3247 Still clinging to a primitive ideas of rewards & punishments & you avoided the threats that religions use that has nothing to do with who we are as people - they simply divide people based on belief - Atheists, Hindus, Buddhists - old people, children, babies, pregnant women - ALL set apart & dumped into gas chambers in hell And people like you who look the other way and try to justify these disgusting Nazi ideas!
Prof. Nasr is fundamentally wrong when it comes to secularism not surviving with Islam in the case of Turkey as well as Bosnia and Albania. He is expressing only one view of Islam excluding the variety of interpretations. In these three countries at least the overwhelming majority of people adopted a secular way of living irrespective of their level of beliefs. He is unfortunately confusing the Arab traditions with how different communities interpret Islam especially those not speaking Arabic or those that do not come from exclusively Middle Eastern traditions. Yet on the other hand watching yet another episode of closer to truth is a major experience of thinking and learning thank you
Why would it be necessary for all religions to be true for any to be true? Human beings in general share many natural tendencies. One of them certainly is the desire for coherence and meaning in some kind of worldview. This would give them a natural tendency to produce religions. If one, or more, of the religions happened also to be true, that wouldn't mean that people in other parts of the world who were followers of other religions had been somehow cheated of an entitlement. No one is *owed* the emergence of an equally true indigenous religion in their particular culture.
In contrast to their apologetics for attitudes of religious exclusivism, however, how about the moderate fideism of William James: “It may be that possibility and permission are all that religious consciousness requires to live upon” ?
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Seeing intelligent people defend religion is just saddening. The reason why rational people think religions are hollow teachings isn't because religions defend incompatible dogmas, as suggested in the introduction, it's because they're dogmatic! Systems of belief based on dogma and faith are the enemies of reason, philosophy, curiosity, openness to evidence and all other intellectual virtues. Taking ridiculous claims, such as the existence of miracles like resurrection, seriously is to betray the philosophical commitment to judging any statement by its own merit, instead giving in to the dangerous human tendency to judge a statement by who is saying it or how many believe it.
In general, human beings are a pretty narcissistic lot. So we naturally believe that our worldview/belief system is the one that is true. It doesn't matter if you're an adherent of a religious belief system, a materialist belief system, or what have you. It's the same thing for most of us.
Well, talking about respect, this is the most important message here not to impose ones's belief or non-belief upon others. And why would any religion even be necessary? The quest for God may find ways without. And without quest, there is no religion anyway, even if going to a temple, church, mosque, to an ashram or elsewhere.
As a Christian, I am embarrassed by the arrogance of the Christian speakers. While I applaud this video, I worry because it seems generally to focus on belief, which is a category of thought developed by Western Enlightenment thinking (implicit in the remarks by the Muslim scholar) and distorts a fuller apprehension of the search for the sacred.
The problem is: the Truth doesn't "explain" much. Because we have to "understand" the problem (von Wright). The notion Truth depends on a hidden system (the choosen/used language/ Weltbild). Your distinction between "many" truth and "the" universal truth is very importent. The answer is clear. Unless Quantum Physics gives us the latest or last? answer.
All bonafide religions hold equal core principles and different externals according to place and circumstance, but nowadays it's difficult to find bonafide religious people.
I would like to think you address the basic question regarding the video caption in the video, I hate click bait so wont enjoy this one from the beginning. If all can be true, then equally all can be untrue and a pure Athiestic view is then true. With the enormous amount of variables needed to make just one true it is more likely that all are untrue.
I like the openness, the honesty, the elegance, the high quality of this series. This is really honorable and valuable.
Well said , am happy that there pepole share my view on this.
It’s a refreshing that we can speak about curiosities and thoughts without persecution.
This is all true. But if you spend a lifetime looking for the existence of the supernatural and all you find is it's absent. I think on some moment in time you should conclude that maybe it's just not there.
@@Carlos-fl6ch "all you find is it's absent" Hm... And who is "you". You? Or Mr. Kuhn? Or who?
@Kittitee Sriraksa science.is not about truth. Science is about finding the most accurate description of natural phenomenon based on th data and knowledge we have. Science is about knowing that there is much we don't know. And we can scratch the service but reaching the bottom will take so incredibly much more time.
I must say, the opening to these episodes is truly fantastic.
It's depressing but a nice depressing.its hard to explain.
It reminds me of a mid 90s to Early 2000s documentary or show
It sounds to me that Hinduism and Buddhism got it right. Don’t force others.
Same with Judaism. These 3 religions are the only ones that don’t proselytize.
Those don't stand in the way of your Global Marxist agenda of biomarkers for every human
@@kimjongun5172the atheist communist party of China has multiple Millions of minorities concentrated in reeducation and forced labor camps right now.
Tell me how you feel about that.
@@williamesselman3102 how do you think? It’s awful
@@williamesselman3102 I don’t talk to the mentally insane, sorry.
Religion and spirituality should be a private quest for everyone, as it’s different for all.
Reason and logic should be shouted from the rooftops,
for everyone.
As it’s the same for all.
Because without both ideologies, humanity will never flourish.
( btw- I’m a Sikh boy )
All life is of the spirit, human strength accounts for absolutely nothing.
"Where there is no vision, people perish..."
What if reason and logic contradicts religious faith (hint: it absolutely does)?
I am still convinced that all religions with their gods are ridiculous. And by the way buddhism is not a religion, it is a common misunderstand. The buddha himself reject the idea of god. The core of buddhism is the teaching that lead to self-realization of truth. If you want to realize the truth, follow his teaching, there is no need to blindly worship any god.
Of course not. Mutually exclusive things can not all be true. That is why Pascal's Wager is bogus. You would have to believe every religion.
And what if you research the evidence behind (at least) the most important (or popular) ones?
@@akostarkanyi825 What evidence ?
@@infinitemonkey917 Evidence? And what do you think about this argument of mine?
Apostle Paul wrote some angry or at least passionate letters to the Galatians and Corinthians mentioning miracles in them happening among those people. If miracles hadn't happen there, then he would have made himself ridiculous in their eyes - but his purpose was to make them take him seriously. So it is logical that miracles did happen with them and Paul. But if they did why could they not have happened with the other apostles and Jesus, too? And if they did, then why could not be true everything the Gospels describe? Luke, Paul's friend, an eye-wittness wrote about miracles happening with Paul. Was he right then - as real miracles did happen with Paul as we know from his letters? Did Luke tell the truth? But did he still have to lie in connection with Jesus? This would not be logical. Paul's letters are authentic and realistic. And from them a few logical steps lead to the accounts of the Gospels about Jesus being true.
Yes. Religion is like language. God is like our emotions. Each language has its unique way of expressing our emotions.
The view of religions is different - with Buddhism clearly it is said to be a Teacher faith
In life one meets many Teachers, not one
The goal is Enlightenment, Knowledge
Hinduism gets ignored because of the dark skin of its followers but clearly the Hindu Gods are our Teachers
We welcomed the Buddha as one of our Teachers
In any other land, the Buddha would have been branded a heretic, an apostate and been burnt to death, same as Giordano Bruno
The top two - that is the sad part - are Master/Slave religions
The goal is eternal pleasures of the flesh
Every time I ask theists to describe a day in Heaven, what does one DO there, they run away
Master will GIVE those pleasures of the flesh, they cannot be earned
Therefore, we must beg & grovel to the Master and no other
Amazing how religions using cheap promises of the easy good life can turn bright educated people into their slaves blindly serving religion
The most versatile tool in history. It serves a multitude of purposes. Unknowable ,unproveable, un answerable, indisputable. Whats the difference between believe and make -believe? No one knows.
One way to discover a difference between believe and make-believe is to jump off a high building because you believe you can fly.
That is observable
@@cnault3244 bad argument
@@k.a.3247 Bad rebuttal. Explain why my example was bad.
@@cnault3244 Is it not obvious? Can you not watch someone jump off a high building, figure out gravity is fundamental, without having to jump yourself? Why would your personal jump produce a different outcome? If you believe harder than someone else, you might just fly? If your life is worth the risk, by all means jump.
Maybe if they were all like '1 + 1 = 2' etc, rather than '...and the Lord turned her into a pillar of salt' etc.
This is one of the better episodes!
I do not know how the contents in the video signify we are closer to truth...
Another great episode of CCT, thank you!
This really brings us some answers, as it shows that only 1 or none of the religions practiced in the world can be really true. Most likely, none of them are true, at least not literally.
The last guest speaker summarized it well: it all depends what you are looking for, spiritual fulfillment or objective truth. It looks like most religious people are really looking for spiritual fulfillment, while rational people are looking for objective truth. In that sense, science and religion serve different purposes.
The plainness of the assumptions and fallacies make this a hard episode to watch...
I agree, This episode was disappointing.
Yeah, for a professor Swinburne can't even get his facts right.
There are Chistians who do not believe in Trinity.
Agree. This was almost depressing. Can you rec any good discussions this subject?
On this subject you should also interview Ken Wilber, neither atheist nor member of a particular religion, who developed and wrote extensively on the concept of perennial philosophy.
Haha this is the comment I’m looking for
This series feels like trying to put the idea of God into a box. It is less about finding God and more about making God conform to a narrow set of ideals. The concept of God will never fit in the box...impossible to truly comprehend.
So... what’s your suggestion?
Wish GOD could just show up & clear all our doubts & answer all our questions. I'd just love for that to happen by tonite itself!. MeenaC
the reason god does not "show up" is because god does not exist
@@livethemoment5148 the reason he doesn’t show up is because he/she/it/all has always existed 👁
Each speaker selected seemed to lack any compelling insights into the question, in my opinion. The over simplified answer seems to lie in the proposition that God has the means to clear all the questions......and elects not to, or cannot because of a lack of existence.
The common denominator is Love !
Where is the "love" should God demanded human blood and manslaughter for mercy and salvation?
Islam makes far more sense those who are thinking.
Spoken like a TRUE child of god. 💙
@@micheal74rich islam doesn't make any sense either. if you are thinking (doubtful), you would wait for evidence before making silly proclamations.
@@cosmikrelic4815 see?
Truth!
Embrace God, Reject Truth, Lose Both;
Embrace Truth, Reject God, Gain Both.
Their is something beyond something.NOT any religions nothing to do with it. We are here connected in the universe from cause and effect. Just laws.🤗Japan.
Love these. The variety of topics, but with a similar root. I think it's a worthwhile expenditure of time, to ponder the big questions.
I like Dr. Nasir's explanation
Shouldn't the real question be, "what about each religion sounds like it might be true?" It's possible that each religion contains some truth...
Just like a glass of water is pure when someone ads poison to it ,it is no longer good for you.Religions have many good qualties and truth but Unfortunatly they are adding some untruth to there teachings
Spirituality is a personal relationship with the divine and religion is basically crowd control 💕 ✨ ♾
Moron
@@weme11 😂
I love your your accuracy.
I love the content of your videos. Thanks so much for what you do.
Short answer: no they are all wrong
James 1:27
Jewish Rubbi at 12-16 _"Just because a person thinks, my religion is better than other religions, does that mean we have to persecute people of other religions"_ .
It was Muslims in Palestine have demonstrated such value through out the history. Whatever idea Jews preaches on this video, they cannot even standby it, in the light of what Jews are doing to people of Palestine.
Very interesting question. My religion, spiritism, does teach that all religions are right in a way, and that their different explanations exist to fullfil the need of each group of humans on Earth, like how schools teach the same subject over the course of many years but always deepening the student's understanding, appropriately for their age. Spiritism believes that we are immortal spirits, in different stages of evolution, that's why we need many explanations, to fulfill our needs in our evolutionary stages. Jesus even mentions it when questioned about marriage, where Moses said divorce their wives under certain circumstances, Jesus said they shouldn't, and told that Moses thought them that way because their hearts were too brute, and those that could marry without divorcing should do so. My spiritist branch is universalist, stimulating the study of other religions and beliefs in order to see the truth behind the dogmas and rituals, to see the universal truth through the many perspectives the world has to offer, and always thinking on what fits us best, what can be helpful on our lives, what can we take from another religion that really matters. Spiritism in general teach us to think rationally about our faith, because no one can be followed blindly, not even the spirits, as they're humans like us.
Too bad Christofer Hitchens couldn't sit in on this discussion.
... he interviewed a number of respected scholars with divergent viewpoints.
I’m not sure what else could be gained by interviewing a journalist.
Platitudes as dipers for babes
hopefully many people find closer to the truth. best show out there.
As an atheist myself I don't think atheism means rejection of everything taught by all the world's various religions. It also doesn't mean rejection of believers, or even thinking of myself as "better than" believers. However, if a Christian (for example) thinks I'm going to Hell, that's a problem. What I'd like believers to understand is that, in effect, they all belong to exclusive clubs. They'll say it isn't true -- that anyone can become a Christian, or a Muslim, or whatever, but I'd be an imposter in any of these religions because they all require me to believe at least one thing that I'm simply not capable of believing. If I claimed to believe I'd just be lying (and an all-seeing God would surely know that).
You misunderstand - these religions made God in the image of the master of the past - the King/Dictator - back in the day that was life
If you wanted to live in the King's country, you have to swear loyalty(belief) otherwise no King would allow you to live in his kingdom
Think Putin, Saddam - you are in Russia - you think you can speak out against Putin?
That's the sad thing here
In the 21st century, the top religions are Communist Dictator-style religions
Get down on our knees, beg, grovel and be rewarded!
And these are highly educated, intelligent people!
Frightening really!
Zarathustra:"This is just my way: where is yours? Thus I answered those who asked of me the way. For the way does not exist!" [Thus Spoke Zarathustra, 3.11]
Luckily, you are free to be educated about these religions (say, from books or from persons) and clarify if they seem to be true or not - if you are concerned with their claim you would go to hell.
@@akostarkanyi825 I'm not worried about going to Hell (to me that's nonsense).
The father I stay from religions the closer I feel to a god thank you have a nice life🖐
James 1:27
farther* you're welcome 🖖
I agree. Religion is often an impediment to our spiritual growth.
Why don't you try to find out and discuss JAIN religious philosophy?
if a religion need to kill just to prove there is a god, i choose blasphemy cause i know in my deep soul that god doesn't work like that, god is uncondicional love and the only enemy is my own ego u dont need to fear hell to help others
Some might say that ignoring ages of philosophy and religion is egoism,However I agree that Fear plays a very big role in religions and belief systems.
But I will never deny or approve of anything I think if you compared the vast universe to our little brains it will be difficult to conclude anything. My only base is Questioning and seeking the truth if there is one, though I probably won't reach it.
@@ShowUsTruth the problem is not what u believe, everyone has the freedom to believe anything, but to force others to share the same beliefs is a mistake personally i believe in god but not the one in relegion cause it makes no sense
@@slimwolf7434 The fear if others doesn't share your view you might be wrong probably what cause this.The fight between human mind and his instinct shall never stops.
Wow. You have it exactly right. Glad to know you. It really comes down to a question that I'm trying to make popular - "Are you just a human or are you a human BEING?"
@@ShowUsTruth I disagree. What would happen if EVERYONE on the planet was asked "Are you just a human (Ego/Fear) or are you a human BEING (soul/Love?)
Beautiful closing remarks by RLK at the end. I think RLK has discovered true spirituality - and is therefore . . . .Closer To Truth.
The Theosophists say, "There is no religion higher than truth."
These are discussions for those who are seekers. I would propose that we might stop looking at the process from the human perspective but look at it from God’s perspective. God is a loving light consciousness who is aware of all religions. His job is to work with all of them as they are and provide guidance, support and validation through those vehicles as they present themselves. He’s only got us to work with and we all have different minds but he Dose work with us.
I found the Buddhist and Hindu masters wiser than the others. The islamic one brought up some interesting points.
Budhdhist more wiser , hindu relegion divided human in casts but Buddhism does not.
All religions have the same problem: They can't prove the supernatural
Can many languages be true? Variety, color and texture makes life interesting and beautiful.
Languages are man-made.
@@v.sandrone4268 so are religions.
@@v.sandrone4268 The amazing ability of religions to make cheap promises of the easy lazy life for eternity and brainwash even the best to be slaves of religion
Zero evidence & so "it will happen only if you believe, God is like Saddam, Stalin - He will reward you if you beg & grovel only to him & no other"
And even the best of educated blindly become slaves of religion
Haha by the way the first one who spoke was God - “Let there be light”
@@heloisaheng3189 It's a story made up by ONE religion. Stop being so gullible
It is not about all the religions or what I call organizations-it is the desire to seek within yourself how you would want God to be-God or Spirit is within us-I believe in the creator of the universe-I do believe in Yashua, but I find wisdom in the sayings of Buddha and I meditate and pray. Therefore,in all good things I seek, Forgive,love, and always give glory and Thanks to my Father, the creator of everything.My beliefs also stem from experiences, I do believe that Jesus died on the cross for our sins, but I do not limit myself to being a CHristian-because there are many wise prophets that expand my mind and as long as I am finding peace, sharing love,being honest,and giving thanks-more shall come on my journey-such as more wisdom and enlightenment.
The plethora of verbal gymnastics is stunning when these people try to explain something they have no answers to and no proof of. Any belief that applies rules and conditions to its 'believers' is no more than a manmade control system.
yeah that guy kept looking down...cannot say what he says with a straight face
The late Gerald Priestland of the BBC, an atheist turned Quaker, presented a radio series on the variety of religious belief. He ended it, making himself a cup of tea (as I recall), and saying that if all the expert and sincere adherents to those faiths he had met on his travels were to gather together in his room, there might not be agreement, but there would be warmth, and calm and quietness between them. I like that very much.
I believe you have to look deeply within, clear the mind, forget anything you were taught as a child, then take a deep breath and apply logic.
Logically religions contradict themselves, plus there are some strong disciplines and acts within many religions which go far beyond any moral values. Would I follow a judgemental god, the answer is 'no', would I follow a god that allows cruelty and suffering in the young and innocent, then again the answer is 'no'. Can I believe a mythical figure high up in the sky that created everything, sees everything and has a 'plan', then again the answer is no. I don't have a belief, I have logic and values and for me they keep me rooted deeply in reality.
But actually every thing is a belief. We only know what we think we know thru our senses. And who's to say. That there acurrat. We may. Not exist at all like we think just a big imagination. Or a matrix. A simulation. As that old saying goes I believe I exist therefore. I am. Beyond that. There is no real proof. Just a belief.
As Muslim, I believe in supreme, almighty God, and believe in all his messengers their messages , and and I believe that God is the creator of spacetime and the matter we made of, and the life we live, therefore, Islam is the right religion
I believe the same and I’m Christian
@@heloisaheng3189 what's a bit odd about christianity is that, they take Jesus as God, while Jesus is just a human being who eats food, drink water just like the rest of us. But God is one and only one God, has no son no daughter, He the almighty has creatures, he creates, if you know what I mean?...
@@ismailguelmouss2009 if God doesn’t eat / drink / rest then how come He created things that can eat / drink/ rest?
@@heloisaheng3189 God is the powerful, the supreme, the almighty, the great, he does need food or drink or anything else to survive, infact he is eternal which means he is not submitted to laws of time, space, laws of physics or anything else, God is above all of that , he created us as his intelligent creature, and created other creatures around us, how could you worship someone who has the same needs as you to survive or to live ? Doesn't make sense does it?
@@ismailguelmouss2009 I’m not saying that He need those to survive, but do you mean He needs your worship to survive? when you’re suffering can God understand your suffering?
🤔…..certainly a excellent video presentation with fine “experts”.
Meanwhile, billions of humans wake up each day - some scratch out a living to survive, some live In opulence, while others suffer horrific treatment and die in misery and hopelessness…..never having the opportunity nor the time to contemplate and/or research what is “truth”.
Billions upon billions of human lives have come and gone over the many thousands of years of our existence. There is NOT ONE organized religion that has addressed them all.
I love your show Robert Lawrence Kuhn, but keep me closer🟨🟧🟫🟪🟦🟩🟥
"Let there be no compulsion in Religion.Truth stands out clear from Falsehood."
Holy Quran 2:256
( 29 ) Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.
Surat Taouba verse 29
@@peaceandlove988
"Fight for the cause of Allah/Creator those that fight against you,but do not attack them first.Allah/Creator does not love the Aggressors."
Holy Quran 2:190
@@peaceandlove988
Would anybody give viewpoint on a Shakespeares Novel never once having read it from cover to cover?
But everybody has viewpoint on Islam never once having read Holy Quran from cover to cover?😂
@@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings It is younger than the other religions.
lol and NOT ONE MUSLIM MAJORITY NATION IS SECULAR
In countries like Pakistan, all the laws are changed to favor Islam
All the top jobs are reserved for Muslims, Muslims can convert others, but no one is allowed to convert a Muslim
The Koran is full of incidents where Muslims use threats to pus conversions
Amazing blindness
God is Truth, religion gets persons in touch with God.
Could something be missing? Yes there could, simply because humanity had destroyed many books as a result of war and imperialistic invasions. I can imagine some Maya books giving us better enlightenment if only they weren't destroyed.
I always say if the Buddha had been born in Christian or Muslim lands he would have been branded a heretic, an apostate and been tortured and lynched to death! His writings burnt, his followers killed! There would be no Buddhism today
What is sad is that in the 21st century the top religions are Communist/Dictator-style religions that insist that only they are right, only their way or else!
Dark-skinned Hinduism gets ignored even though it has been preaching Democratic ideas
So much for all our education and preaching of morals
You don't find it in books. You find it within, in your "heart."
Wow! Richard Swinburne is brilliant, and yet he pins his entire Christian belief on the unverifiable,resurrection of some dude known as Jesus of Nazareth. .
It is always stunning how religious beliefs prove themselves in endless circles using mere assumptions as facts.
Among all of them Judaeism seems to be the most creative (in a positive sense), but that only means it's going in slightly bigger circles .😎
How about a simpler question? One that can actually have testable answer? Which of all religions is the most logical and reasonable?
Can many religions All be wrong?
None dared ask that question.
yes, and they are.
@@cosmikrelic4815 Not sure tho. I think religion is true in the sense that it is present in humanity and has had an evolutionary advantage. It is true in the sense that it works.
@@N0Xa880iUL what is its evolutionary advantage? in what sense does it work?
@@cosmikrelic4815 Most likely group cohesion / support and a way to cope with knowledge of our mortality. Things that were once advantageous for evolution can change though. Rape was once an evolutionary advantage.
Hello - As long as one believes, that is the essence of all religions, which come in regular periods of every 2160 years. Each one introduces a fresh facet of human evolution, the Christian for instance - introspection/meditation (prayer). Look at the Mona Lisa. Why is she enigmatic? Because she is engaged in the interior life. She is a thinking being with a secret that she is withholding from us. All religions are as pearls on the golden thread of truth. Lord Krishna states: ``When religiosity declines, I descend Myself on all the worlds of the Universe.'' There is liberation and final ascension for all. The time this will take is known only to the highest Initiates. The figure has an astonishing number of zeros added on the end. Enough said. Blessings - RevDrD
The Host of Closer to the Truth., Mr, Rob. Since I have been following your program, I learned a lot of things about the invisible world and the visible world. Thanks for that.
From the personal perspective
I realized that you have been not only searching the " TRUTH " however, you have been praying unknowingly to the real God who did manifested himself in Christ Jesus to revels to you.
Mr, Rob. You looking for the " TRUTH " ? actually, the " TRUTH " have been looking for you and waiting you at your door step to enter and reveled himself to you. The " TRUTH " is knocking you door, and you searching to enter his door? .
May God Revelers the truth you have been searching. even though, he is at your door knocking knocking knocking?
you should respond he will reveal to you. you and your guests and your viewers have been in my prayers lists
that may the real God who created the current universe and gives an eternal life to reveled to us.
hopefully, the " TRUTH " will find you before you leave this planet earth.
Only if the scriptures of a certain religion does not conflict with CLEAR PROVEN scientific FACTS. Another condition must be fulfilled, that's the scriptures must contain information (that was not known to the world when it was revealed) that was confirmed later on by proven scientific FACTS. Only then we can consider that religion to be true..
They can't all be true when they have major conflicting teachings.
Seems like at this point we need to wait for Armageddon and let God sort it out,
but sadly, someone will be wrong.
It's fascinating how these people claim pure speculation as fact.
TL;DR - the answer is NO, since NO religion is true :-)
The truth is only one - religions must go for this law of nature.
In medieval times in Rome, the Pope, influenced by some conservative advisers, decided to expel all Jews from the city
The Pope, not wanting to seem as forcing his decision on the Jews, allowed a debate to be held so the Jews could defend their citizenship.
That night, the Jewish Rabbis gathered in the synagogue to decide who will debate against the Pope. However none of the Rabbis wanted to debate against him, so they started arguing. The synagogue janitor, who was attracted to the commotion, volunteered to oppose the Pope.
"You are just a janitor, how could you possibly win in a debate against the pope?" said the chief Rabbi. But since nobody else was brave enough to volunteer, the janitor was chosen.
On the day of the debate, the Pope walked onto the stage with his advisers, all dressed in white and wearing golden crosses. The janitor also walked onto the stage, surrounded by the oldest Rabbi with their long beards and black garments. The debate began.
The Pope immediately pointed at the janitor and then at the sky. Without hesitation, the janitor pointed at the ground beneath his feet. The Pope then pointed at the janitor with his finger, and the janitor responded by pointing three fingers at the Pope. Next, the pope took out an apple from his pocket and held it in the air. The janitor reached into a paper bag at his waist, and took out a flatbread. The Pope looked surprised, and announced that they would not expel the Jews.
Back at the cathedral, the Pope's advisers asked the Pope,"Father, the exchange during the debate was too difficult for us to follow, please explain what happened."
The Pope replied: "I first pointed at the heavens and the earth, indicating God's marvelous creations. But the Jew pointed at the ground, telling me that hell exist too. I then pointed at him with one finger, telling him that only one God exists. But the Jew countered that by pointing three fingers at me, acknowledging the holy trinity. I then abandoned theology for science, and held out an apple, showing how people think the earth is round even though the scriptures state the earth to be flat. The Jew held out a flatbread, acknowledging that the earth is flat as the scriptures teach. I could not find fault with his argument so I withdrew."
In the synagogue, the janitor also had to explain what happened during the debate.
"So he points at me as if to tell me to get out, but I want to stay right here, so I point at the ground. He then points one finger at me to curse me to death, so I point three fingers at him to curse him three times. Then he brings out his lunch, so I bring out mine
I love this
I'm not sure why someone who doesn't believe seeks to determine the truth about whether there is a God. Let the believers demonstrate it, is how I feel.
I understand that some people see the lovely things that some believers believe about their God and their religion and for some reason they want the same things. My feeling is that I'm completely uninterested in what any of the religions claim, no matter how beautiful and lovely they are, until there's a reason to believe any of what they're claiming is true. And because there is such a long and deep history of humans making up the most core claims of their faith, I tend to doubt any of them are true.
Just the fact that there are a multitude of religions testifies as evidence that the spirit of the source of reality indwells the minds of all humans and draws them inward, regardless of how those human minds distort and interpret that reality. This includes atheists.
Buddhism resonates with me more. Spiritual matters or life is a personal journey. Inclusive also. You cant force other people to believe in your religion. Let them discover their path. A lot of religious people say their religion is superior but it doesnt manifest in their everyday living. They judge, hurt, and persecute other people with different beliefs. Physical body loves division and labels. In spiritual we are all connected.
stuntard said, "define truth". I agree with that. So far, for me, physics is the only objective truth. If one states "the earth is round", that is objectively true. I'm waiting for physics to prove the existence of God. For me, religion just doesn't do it. I don't care what religion it is.
Please prove to me using physics that 2+2=4
Please prove to me that you had a great great great grandfather using physics
You could prove that she had a great great grandfather if you had enough knowledge of every particle currently on earth. Conservation of information in quantum physics demands such a thing.
Now, she can't prove it you, but that's a lack of technology, not truth.
(Now, if she's an alien hacking youtube from another 🌎, you just need a bigger machine)
Physics is proof that reality is inherently paradoxical. Truth in Physics only exists where you can predict the outcome of an experiment. Dropping a ball will end in it falling to the ground... True. The paradox is that even though we know the outcome of the experiment. We actually don't know if the ball falls to the ground or if it the ground rushes up to the ball. In reality it is this weird superposition state of being both and neither at the same, but what makes the most sense to our brains is simply imagining that the Earth has "Gravity" and attracts smaller objects, when really that is the simplest way to think about it and not the full story. An object in free fall from its own perspective is actually totally weightless and floating. There are so many things in physics that immediately twists your brain into knot where truth is actually impossible and if you really want to understand you have to just let it go. How long is a second of time? such a simple question that is easily answered with a watch, but if you really think about it you realize that the thing we call a second of time is actually completely intangible and impossible to represent in any way that isn't arbitrary to reality in some way there fore that second of time doesn't actually exist and sure enough Our system for measuring time is an abstraction that represents information about reality while itself being a manifestation. I think if your look to physics for Objective truth about the world you need to learn about physics more because, the key isn't fitting the lock here.
@Margaret Chase
I don't think you have developed a great sense of God in childhood but least understand the concept of God in Islam.
You had a chance to read the Quran?
Precisely because there are so many different religions of which none give credence to their independent claims suggest to me that they are all wrong.
I find it preposterously arrogant to claim that you know much about God. A being that must be infinitely beyond our comprehension. We can’t even figure out our own cosmos, how could we understand god?
To claim that it is right to rest on the Sunday and wrong to rest on the Friday is ridiculous. Why on earth would god care at all and what evidence is there that your way is the right way? All you have is the words of other humans, which we all know are very fallible.
Yes. But perhaps you have read about the anthropic principle.
And what do you think about this argument of mine?
Apostle Paul wrote some angry or at least passionate letters to the Galatians and Corinthians mentioning miracles in them happening among those people. If miracles hadn't happen there, then he would have made himself ridiculous in their eyes - but his purpose was to make them take him seriously. So it is logical that miracles did happen with them and Paul. But if they did why could they not have happened with the other apostles and Jesus, too? And if they did, then why could not be true everything the Gospels describe? Luke, Paul's friend, an eye-wittness wrote about miracles happening with Paul. Was he right then - as real miracles did happen with Paul as we know from his letters? Did Luke tell the truth? But did he still have to lie in connection with Jesus? This would not be logical. Paul's letters are authentic and realistic. And from them a few logical steps lead to the accounts of the Gospels about Jesus being true.
Alright guys, religion is like art it is all subjective. Why are we making this so complex and this should be the least of our problems.
@aena Art has restraints as well. Modern art does not speak for all art in entirety.
Enjoy quantum mechanics and forget about all these nonsense.
Is it that simple?
@@eraofrage it's ofc
@@soubhikmukherjee6871 i think you are a atheist pretty much like uneducated radical theists.
@@eraofrage my friend, I'm not uneducated. I've studied mathematics and quantum mechanics, and the Bible and the Quran thoroughly-believe it or not. The way the Quran treats women is shameful and same goes for the Bible. Even if there's a God, he's definitely not all-loving and omni-benevolent, and all those bullshit stuff. The amount of suffering you see around you is painful, women being raped, innocent children being murdered. I mean what more can you ask for?Please try to bring about some radical changes in science and technology that will shape the future. Thanks.
@@soubhikmukherjee6871 "Men: love your wife. Women: respect your husband." Is this why you think the Bible treats women badly? Or what?
I just wish we could get some answers...I've been struggling so much lately in life with what is reality, what sparked the creation of our universe, what lies beyond the physical....I've been so lost and I don't know what to do.....
I wonder if you have problems in your life that are bothering you which you are trying to escape from and if you would be better served by focusing your energy on solving those problems, rather than hoping for answers to the mysteries of life to give you guidance ... there are no such answers. Philosophy is best enjoyed by those who are fulfilled by asking the questions, not really those who need the answers. It's been a month since you posted this. Hopefully you are feeling better by now.
Life is so short, we will soon know. See you in hell or heaven or anywhere else or no more anywhere. The consequences are ours.
We are not criminals - why the abusive language? We know that we totally ignore the suffering that we cause to animals and the environment
The male Chicks are unwanted by the poultry industry. Each and every day, these day old babies are dumped into plastic bags and are either suffocated to death or dumped into shredders ALIVE, where they are cut to pieces!
If you believe in what you say, then you will be heading straight to hell
@@ramaraksha01 What abusive language? What does abuse even mean, but what we want it to mean? Why does abuse occur in nature if it should not be part of the natural order? Lions kill their own cubs, birds reject their chicks who fall out of the nest or simply can't be fed. Suffering has always been part of living.
@@k.a.3247 I guess religion has brainwashed us so much that we don't even recognize abusive language when we read it. It's his use of the word hell & the easy threats that is abusive
The very concept of Hell makes my skin crawl - torture is the answer? In Saudi Arabia they lash people for minor offenses, thieves get their arms cut off. In Afghanistan they kill/rape/torture people for not being Muslim or for other "offenses"
Have we not moved on from such primitive and disgusting practices? - but religion is stuck with these sick words
He uses the word Hell so easily - I was told that since I was Hindu, our people would be set apart like Jews under Hitler & dumped into gas chambers in hell
old people, children, babies! pregnant woman - all so callously dumped into hell
that is the "consequence" that he talks about - willing Nazis ready to dump innocents into gas chambers in hell
@@ramaraksha01 Hell is supposed to be repulsive so you would do what you need to avoid it, it's by design. You are afraid of the idea of hell, having never seen or experienced it.
But fear itself is all you should be afraid of. Why should such a place exist? What could we possibly do to deserve an eternity in such a nightmare? Why would a god create such a place. The Taliban are repulsive to everyone but themselves. They believe they are following the orders of their god, just like everyone else. Should their god be any less real than the others?
Heaven and Hell are perfect examples of the human psyche. Nobody can be good enough to deserve heaven, or bad enough to deserve hell.
@@k.a.3247 Still clinging to a primitive ideas of rewards & punishments & you avoided the threats that religions use that has nothing to do with who we are as people - they simply divide people based on belief - Atheists, Hindus, Buddhists - old people, children, babies, pregnant women - ALL set apart & dumped into gas chambers in hell
And people like you who look the other way and try to justify these disgusting Nazi ideas!
The human ape endlessly flatters itself with "proof".
The ape will experience what it expects to experience.
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Great episode. Love this open look into this subject matter.
And the question, what is religion?
Prof. Nasr is fundamentally wrong when it comes to secularism not surviving with Islam in the case of Turkey as well as Bosnia and Albania. He is expressing only one view of Islam excluding the variety of interpretations. In these three countries at least the overwhelming majority of people adopted a secular way of living irrespective of their level of beliefs. He is unfortunately confusing the Arab traditions with how different communities interpret Islam especially those not speaking Arabic or those that do not come from exclusively Middle Eastern traditions.
Yet on the other hand watching yet another episode of closer to truth is a major experience of thinking and learning thank you
The science of life, is necessarily a spiritual one...
Why would it be necessary for all religions to be true for any to be true? Human beings in general share many natural tendencies. One of them certainly is the desire for coherence and meaning in some kind of worldview. This would give them a natural tendency to produce religions. If one, or more, of the religions happened also to be true, that wouldn't mean that people in other parts of the world who were followers of other religions had been somehow cheated of an entitlement. No one is *owed* the emergence of an equally true indigenous religion in their particular culture.
Why is this video so slow??
Watch at 1.25 speed for a normal experience
The answer is yes
Plantinga and Swinburne to kick off the episode. Already a classic.
In contrast to their apologetics for attitudes of religious exclusivism, however, how about the moderate fideism of William James: “It may be that possibility and permission are all that religious consciousness requires to live upon” ?
Couldn’t find any female scholars to interview? This omission, for whatever reason,appears to be a very common and real shortcoming of this channel’s.
True.
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Seeing intelligent people defend religion is just saddening. The reason why rational people think religions are hollow teachings isn't because religions defend incompatible dogmas, as suggested in the introduction, it's because they're dogmatic! Systems of belief based on dogma and faith are the enemies of reason, philosophy, curiosity, openness to evidence and all other intellectual virtues. Taking ridiculous claims, such as the existence of miracles like resurrection, seriously is to betray the philosophical commitment to judging any statement by its own merit, instead giving in to the dangerous human tendency to judge a statement by who is saying it or how many believe it.
If you understand Kashmir Shaivism then you will understand why Jesus talks about "Love your neighbor as your Self".
"We have something to share, nothing to impose" like it.
In general, human beings are a pretty narcissistic lot. So we naturally believe that our worldview/belief system is the one that is true. It doesn't matter if you're an adherent of a religious belief system, a materialist belief system, or what have you. It's the same thing for most of us.
LOVE is my religion because it has never been wrong.
Omg..ppl do watch such videos means we seek unity n peace
Well, talking about respect, this is the most important message here not to impose ones's belief or non-belief upon others. And why would any religion even be necessary? The quest for God may find ways without. And without quest, there is no religion anyway, even if going to a temple, church, mosque, to an ashram or elsewhere.
This is the only true religion. James 1:27
@@williamesselman3102 bullcrap
@@garychartrand7378 okay
There is "some" truth to "all" religions"
As a Christian, I am embarrassed by the arrogance of the Christian speakers. While I applaud this video, I worry because it seems generally to focus on belief, which is a category of thought developed by Western Enlightenment thinking (implicit in the remarks by the Muslim scholar) and distorts a fuller apprehension of the search for the sacred.
You do not need religion, much less organized religion, to believe in God.
Or to have an intimate relationship with Him (Her, It).
Exactly. Some people can be stupid all by themselves.
The problem is: the Truth doesn't "explain" much.
Because we have to "understand" the problem (von Wright).
The notion Truth depends on a hidden system (the choosen/used language/ Weltbild).
Your distinction between "many" truth and "the" universal truth is very importent.
The answer is clear.
Unless Quantum Physics gives us the latest or last? answer.
All bonafide religions hold equal core principles and different externals according to place and circumstance, but nowadays it's difficult to find bonafide religious people.
True but it's getting easier to find a Spiritual person.
The eternal Tao is not the spoken Tao, I think in the same way the eternal truth of anything cannot be expressed by words.
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I would like to think you address the basic question regarding the video caption in the video, I hate click bait so wont enjoy this one from the beginning. If all can be true, then equally all can be untrue and a pure Athiestic view is then true. With the enormous amount of variables needed to make just one true it is more likely that all are untrue.
Bravo
Yes, of course. The differences have good reason! Exactly in the differences you can find more wisdom or deeper insight into God the Life!
Very well done. Kudos.
Why do most people believe they were born into the true religion?