A pro pool player would be buying a cue for the length, weight, ferrel size. All effects how the cue plays. How much it throws. This video should be called we paid Gareth Potts to endorse our new money making scheme.
Glad to know that the most important characteristics are appearance related, it will be a lot easier for me to choose as I will worry less about performance, which I can't judge from photos.
Nothing was mentioned about the joint or the integrity of the end of the shaft. Many of today's cues have a hard plastic or even worse a stainless steel joint and it's almost impossible to feel the cueball during the hit much less control it. Don't get me wrong, some people can control the cueball but it's MUCH easier with a wood-on-wood joint or something organic like an ivory joint. As for the shaft, what it's made of can become a personal preference and what a person gets used to. Some woods let you feel the cueball more than other woods. That being said the straightness of the last 6 to 8 inches is extremely important. A slight bow in it can send the cueball off in another direction, especially if you are playing on a larger table! This video feels more like an Infomercial than anything else.
@licensedtoill9278 - you make good points on fundamentals. I didn't intend to convey that the strike or cue replaced the fundamentals. I have played with a guy who used a broomstick as a cue and ran 4 racks in straight pool. All that was on fundamentals! With fundamentals aside, there is a difference in the feel of the strike between solid wood or a wood-to-wood connected shaft and one with a steel joint. At least it is for me and most if not all of the high-level players that came into the pool hall I owned and operated for years before I retired. Each person has their own style and level of playing. Some never feel the difference whereas some do. Doesn't make either wrong... just different.
@licensedtoill9278 - No need to apologize. Communications can come across that way without meaning to sound like that from time to time. It's all good. You are spot on with the mostly mental part too! There is a certain level of playing where the game is pretty much won or lost before the opening break is shot! I had a blast during the years I had the hall. Met a lot of great shooters who came through. A few a-holes but mostly good people who just loved the game and wanted to just have some fun! I enjoyed the chat. Take it easy 🙂
You're boasting about having an 8.5mm tip on this vod which you quote as being 'perfect' but they cant even make a tip lower than 9.3mm. I much prefer an 8-9mm and I'm sorry but I'm not spending over £100 if there isn't some wiggle room on tip size. FYI that is across the WHOLE range offered which is a little sad, I'm sure there can be some variation across a range of cues..I would love to purchase one of these because the quality I am sure is genuinly fantastic but the tip size is a real deal breaker for me and I'm sure for quite a few other people..
Also for anyone who cares, the wieghts of the cues that you can purchase range from 17-19oz... which again is an extremely limited selection of weights in my opinion. In all honesty the only thing I can say that is good about this range is probably the way they are made. Everything else which is what this video should have been discussing and what others in the comments have mentioned such as weight, tip size, length of cue, 2piece/3piece, 3/4length etc etc the list of actual stuff to consider goes on, NONE OF THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSION ON THEIR PURCHASE SITE... so what is the point. Very Very disappointed.
"you can have the most expensive cue in the world, it doesn't mean that you're going to play better with it, it's what you get used to." That statement is everything I need to hear.
I bought a Grand cue when they sold their cues on eBay (not now unfortunately). I knew the weight, dimensions and what it looks like. I make century breaks with it at snooker and don’t do too bad in our pool league either. It’s not essential that you try before you buy.
This is an age old story... All you need to know is that Hendry won 7 world titles with basically a broom stick. Don't worry to much about the cue, its the tip size you need to get right then find a cue in your budget.
The first things you look at is the shaft for stiffness and deflection, taper and the overall cue balance. Dosen’t matter if it is a house cue or a million dollar stick. Those things are imperative. I have owned and played with over 100 cues as a semi pro in 25+ countries. I have owned 10 cues worth over $5000 and had a $25 rack cue which was a better player than all of them combined.
I was surprised he didnt even mention straightness of the cue. Kind of one of the first considerations for me in a cue purchase, after first impression of the cue's aesthetics. The chevrons on the ash cue are, to me, unimportant, other than do they match at the joint. I've never used them as an aiming guide, although i've heard that is in fact a thing in some cases. I like a bit of weight in my playing cues, about eighteen ounces, but since snooker cues dont seem to have that marked on the cue, that all comes down to how it feels during the feathering strokes. Personally, i like a ten mill tip, and i use it for both pool and snooker. Again, personal preference. Your mileage may vary....
Based upon the title of the vid, I was expecting info on weight, shaft diameter, tip material and hardness, overall construction (all wood, graphite, fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc), joint, wrap materials or no wrap, low deflection shafts, etc. Instead I watched this vid, then read the comments to see if others were also confused / disappointed. Ultimate Pool, why don't you try again, and this time cover stuff that really matters.
I have a Peradon three piece snooker cue which I had slightly shortened by a professional cue maker in order to use it purely for pool. It has just a 9mm tip and has lasted me for years. I certainly didn't look at the butt first.
Why Gareth Potts, he doesn't know anything about cues, he doesn't actually know much about pool. The chevrons, can be used for aiming, most pros won't use the chevrons. The chevrons being even is an indication of even density/hardness through the shaft, the more even the chevrons are the more evenly weighted the cue will be. In regards to ash and maple; ash has a density/hardness range (every piece is different, though some may be very similar) whereas maple has a fixed density (ignoring knots in the wood, every piece is as good as identical). The maple shafts have a density/hardness just above the average of the ash range, most pro snooker or pool players probably don't want the average and will either want a cue with more or less density/hardness (flexibility Vs power transfer). if you are looking to by a cue, only an idiot buys it based on "what the butt looks like" (obviously don't by one you don't like, but never base it on this) buy the cue that feels right. They didn't mention the weight of these cues which is the part I was most interested in, can a buyer specify weight wanted? Personally I play pool with a 15oz (super light weight) cue, except pool t for breaking which I use a 21oz for. I play snooker with a 17oz (considered very light weight) cue unless I need more power then I use my pool break cue (which was originally a snooker cue till I decided it was far too heavy. These will probably come up between 17.5oz and 19oz but what you'll get is anyone's guess.
Why? Because it makes perfect marketing sense. It's an advert for the cues in their store and he's the most famous guy on tour. No one wants to listen to Joe blogs from a cue maker. You think tiger woods knows how to make a golf club? No. But it doesn't stop Nike using him for their ads.
@@CornishTigerTV my point exactly. He isn't advertising anything, he's talk bollocks as per usual. I was interested in the cue range but he has done nothing but put me off, it's bad marketing, he's just the sell out that was willing to take money to say what he's told to or in this case anything he can think of that isn't negative. In the break cue case, he performs one of the worst breaks I've ever seen, not even sure it was legal, scraps cloth, bends cue against slate - decided I'll stick to my recycled snooker cue. I'll go on if you want me to. Important information someone interested might have wanted to know; the aforementioned weight or option to specify if available, is it hand spliced or machine spliced, what sort of tip do they come with as standard or is there a choice. At the end of the day without this information I don't think these cues are any better than Cue Soul, or BCE (both the same sort of quality really, you might get lucky with a good one but most are low quality). And like Cue Soul are overpriced cues for amateurs, but cue soul will give you all the accessories you could want - to any amateurs I'd recommend they get a BCE because if they don't like it they can afford another and still have change for the same price as one of these.
The truth is for whatever reason you just don't like him. Proof is in your second sentence... "He doesn't know much about pool" . That tells us all how you feel about him. Be honest this has nothing to do about him discussing the cues. He could have said everything you've wrote and you'd still moan.
@@CornishTigerTV I don't like him, you don't need to show proof. But I don't like him for all the above reasons. Fact is he couldn't have said everything I have pointed out, because he simply doesn't know. It's bad marketing, look at other comments I'm not the only one who has an issue with it. The organisation that promotes UK pool the most is trying to rip off players and amateurs, as far as we can tell from this, it brings the sport into disrepute.
Hope hes better at picking the correct tip than he is the correct size T shirts? He doesn't own a shirt thats not at least 1 size to small that iv seen.
In my (very amateur) opinion, I prefer Maple cues with no chevrons as they distract my line of sight. I've always thought using the grain (chevrons) as an aiming guide to be a bit weird. But hey.
What are you looking at when you play the game?. In my pov of the game the cue is too far down for me to even really notice the cue, my eyesight is too focused on the cue ball and object ball
@@haydenwalton2766for American Pool maybe, bigger balls, need a stouter wood. UK pool smaller balls. Maple is likely to deflect more than Ash due to its density.
@@PostUp_Time really?? So a woods grain is man made? I’ll agree they become more pronounced on an Ash cue with grain filler But chevrons are a natural part of the grain of wood Maple and Hickory have them but they are much much closer grained so sport as to not have them
I know Gaz is a top player with Ultimate Pool and probably very convenient for this segment but surely someone like Scott Price who Knows what he’s talking about with cues would of been better suited to this video, I mean even Gaz has Scott sell his Chinese 8 ball cues on eBay for him 😂😂😂
@@CornishTigerTVsomeone looking for a guide to buy a cue? Much like the title of the video. If you’re going to put out content titled “what to look for when buying a cue” , why not have someone that knows what to look for rather than a pro that clearly doesn’t understand what a beginner should look for . Wether it’s Scott or someone else Ultimate Pool have people on there books that make cues , Collect cues and have an all round better understanding than Gaz on how to select a cue for the first time, he maybe one of the best players ever but on this topic he is sorely lacking
Forget how it looks Forget whose name plate is on the cue. Just pick your weight. Length Size of tip. See how it plays first, before you even decide if you’re thinking of buying it. Forget this video, it’s useless
So do the pro,s not roll the cue on the table to see how straight it is or do you think he didnt dare do that?...XD I find the grain or "chevrons" nip my stubble so I tend to have the smooth side up.
Anyone that knows anything about cues knows you don’t roll a cue to see if it’s straight ( unless it doesn’t have a flatspot on the butt) the only guide to straightness is to “rifle” sight it If it has a flat on the butt the straightest cue in the world will bobble when rolled
A pro pool player would be buying a cue for the length, weight, ferrel size. All effects how the cue plays. How much it throws. This video should be called we paid Gareth Potts to endorse our new money making scheme.
Couldn't agree more.
Oooooof, harsh but true
Good enough player can play with anything.
@@samuelgarrod8327 true but they will still have a preferred cue.
Total cringe. Shameful.
0:50 this guys so good, he doesn't first want to make sure the cue is straight... lol... priority... looks! lol
This gave me zero information about buying a pool cue. All I found out is what you thought is pretty.
Glad to know that the most important characteristics are appearance related, it will be a lot easier for me to choose as I will worry less about performance, which I can't judge from photos.
Nothing was mentioned about the joint or the integrity of the end of the shaft. Many of today's cues have a hard plastic or even worse a stainless steel joint and it's almost impossible to feel the cueball during the hit much less control it. Don't get me wrong, some people can control the cueball but it's MUCH easier with a wood-on-wood joint or something organic like an ivory joint. As for the shaft, what it's made of can become a personal preference and what a person gets used to. Some woods let you feel the cueball more than other woods. That being said the straightness of the last 6 to 8 inches is extremely important. A slight bow in it can send the cueball off in another direction, especially if you are playing on a larger table!
This video feels more like an Infomercial than anything else.
@licensedtoill9278 - you make good points on fundamentals. I didn't intend to convey that the strike or cue replaced the fundamentals. I have played with a guy who used a broomstick as a cue and ran 4 racks in straight pool. All that was on fundamentals!
With fundamentals aside, there is a difference in the feel of the strike between solid wood or a wood-to-wood connected shaft and one with a steel joint. At least it is for me and most if not all of the high-level players that came into the pool hall I owned and operated for years before I retired.
Each person has their own style and level of playing. Some never feel the difference whereas some do. Doesn't make either wrong... just different.
@licensedtoill9278 - No need to apologize. Communications can come across that way without meaning to sound like that from time to time. It's all good. You are spot on with the mostly mental part too! There is a certain level of playing where the game is pretty much won or lost before the opening break is shot!
I had a blast during the years I had the hall. Met a lot of great shooters who came through. A few a-holes but mostly good people who just loved the game and wanted to just have some fun!
I enjoyed the chat. Take it easy 🙂
@licensedtoill9278 - Thank you... You too!
You're boasting about having an 8.5mm tip on this vod which you quote as being 'perfect' but they cant even make a tip lower than 9.3mm. I much prefer an 8-9mm and I'm sorry but I'm not spending over £100 if there isn't some wiggle room on tip size. FYI that is across the WHOLE range offered which is a little sad, I'm sure there can be some variation across a range of cues..I would love to purchase one of these because the quality I am sure is genuinly fantastic but the tip size is a real deal breaker for me and I'm sure for quite a few other people..
Also for anyone who cares, the wieghts of the cues that you can purchase range from 17-19oz... which again is an extremely limited selection of weights in my opinion. In all honesty the only thing I can say that is good about this range is probably the way they are made. Everything else which is what this video should have been discussing and what others in the comments have mentioned such as weight, tip size, length of cue, 2piece/3piece, 3/4length etc etc the list of actual stuff to consider goes on, NONE OF THAT IS AVAILABLE FOR DISCUSSION ON THEIR PURCHASE SITE... so what is the point. Very Very disappointed.
Why did you say sorry?
Yeah glad I come across this video on buying I’ve noticed that they don’t advertise the tip size . Unless mistaken
Will someone pleeeeease buy Gareth a shirt that fits?
I think that he thinks they do
Looks disturbing indeed
Why is he wearing an extra medium shirt?
Do you mean a smedium
"you can have the most expensive cue in the world, it doesn't mean that you're going to play better with it, it's what you get used to."
That statement is everything I need to hear.
I bought a Grand cue when they sold their cues on eBay (not now unfortunately). I knew the weight, dimensions and what it looks like. I make century breaks with it at snooker and don’t do too bad in our pool league either. It’s not essential that you try before you buy.
Does gaz spray his clothes on?
as fem bot as can be
He puts his clothes on then sprays a little expanding foam on each nipple, wait a few seconds.... Voila
This is an age old story... All you need to know is that Hendry won 7 world titles with basically a broom stick. Don't worry to much about the cue, its the tip size you need to get right then find a cue in your budget.
I honestly can't believe he's talking about the chevrons...fuck me. It's a tool,if it feels good and you're good,it will be good
The first things you look at is the shaft for stiffness and deflection, taper and the overall cue balance. Dosen’t matter if it is a house cue or a million dollar stick. Those things are imperative. I have owned and played with over 100 cues as a semi pro in 25+ countries. I have owned 10 cues worth over $5000 and had a $25 rack cue which was a better player than all of them combined.
I'm looking for a good cue stick not a piece of furniture.
I was surprised he didnt even mention straightness of the cue. Kind of one of the first considerations for me in a cue purchase, after first impression of the cue's aesthetics. The chevrons on the ash cue are, to me, unimportant, other than do they match at the joint. I've never used them as an aiming guide, although i've heard that is in fact a thing in some cases. I like a bit of weight in my playing cues, about eighteen ounces, but since snooker cues dont seem to have that marked on the cue, that all comes down to how it feels during the feathering strokes. Personally, i like a ten mill tip, and i use it for both pool and snooker. Again, personal preference. Your mileage may vary....
Based upon the title of the vid, I was expecting info on weight, shaft diameter, tip material and hardness, overall construction (all wood, graphite, fiberglass, carbon fiber, etc), joint, wrap materials or no wrap, low deflection shafts, etc. Instead I watched this vid, then read the comments to see if others were also confused / disappointed. Ultimate Pool, why don't you try again, and this time cover stuff that really matters.
I have a Peradon three piece snooker cue which I had slightly shortened by a professional cue maker in order to use it purely for pool. It has just a 9mm tip and has lasted me for years. I certainly didn't look at the butt first.
5:29min of nothing LOL
Chevrons are an aiming guy you learn something new everyday pure nonsense ☺️
Yeah never heard that from any video I’ve watched for years 😂
'cue whip' affects how much side you can play?? riiiiight...
It probably does tbh
can someone explain to me what he means by how much is the cue whipping? is he talking out of his as. never heard that ?
He's talking about deflection when you use side English.
@@DavidSodnan
The effect would happen to some degree no matter where you hit the ball.
Why Gareth Potts, he doesn't know anything about cues, he doesn't actually know much about pool. The chevrons, can be used for aiming, most pros won't use the chevrons. The chevrons being even is an indication of even density/hardness through the shaft, the more even the chevrons are the more evenly weighted the cue will be. In regards to ash and maple; ash has a density/hardness range (every piece is different, though some may be very similar) whereas maple has a fixed density (ignoring knots in the wood, every piece is as good as identical). The maple shafts have a density/hardness just above the average of the ash range, most pro snooker or pool players probably don't want the average and will either want a cue with more or less density/hardness (flexibility Vs power transfer). if you are looking to by a cue, only an idiot buys it based on "what the butt looks like" (obviously don't by one you don't like, but never base it on this) buy the cue that feels right. They didn't mention the weight of these cues which is the part I was most interested in, can a buyer specify weight wanted? Personally I play pool with a 15oz (super light weight) cue, except pool t for breaking which I use a 21oz for. I play snooker with a 17oz (considered very light weight) cue unless I need more power then I use my pool break cue (which was originally a snooker cue till I decided it was far too heavy. These will probably come up between 17.5oz and 19oz but what you'll get is anyone's guess.
Why? Because it makes perfect marketing sense. It's an advert for the cues in their store and he's the most famous guy on tour.
No one wants to listen to Joe blogs from a cue maker.
You think tiger woods knows how to make a golf club? No. But it doesn't stop Nike using him for their ads.
lol
@@CornishTigerTV my point exactly. He isn't advertising anything, he's talk bollocks as per usual. I was interested in the cue range but he has done nothing but put me off, it's bad marketing, he's just the sell out that was willing to take money to say what he's told to or in this case anything he can think of that isn't negative. In the break cue case, he performs one of the worst breaks I've ever seen, not even sure it was legal, scraps cloth, bends cue against slate - decided I'll stick to my recycled snooker cue. I'll go on if you want me to. Important information someone interested might have wanted to know; the aforementioned weight or option to specify if available, is it hand spliced or machine spliced, what sort of tip do they come with as standard or is there a choice. At the end of the day without this information I don't think these cues are any better than Cue Soul, or BCE (both the same sort of quality really, you might get lucky with a good one but most are low quality). And like Cue Soul are overpriced cues for amateurs, but cue soul will give you all the accessories you could want - to any amateurs I'd recommend they get a BCE because if they don't like it they can afford another and still have change for the same price as one of these.
The truth is for whatever reason you just don't like him. Proof is in your second sentence... "He doesn't know much about pool" .
That tells us all how you feel about him. Be honest this has nothing to do about him discussing the cues.
He could have said everything you've wrote and you'd still moan.
@@CornishTigerTV I don't like him, you don't need to show proof. But I don't like him for all the above reasons. Fact is he couldn't have said everything I have pointed out, because he simply doesn't know. It's bad marketing, look at other comments I'm not the only one who has an issue with it. The organisation that promotes UK pool the most is trying to rip off players and amateurs, as far as we can tell from this, it brings the sport into disrepute.
Hope hes better at picking the correct tip than he is the correct size T shirts?
He doesn't own a shirt thats not at least 1 size to small that iv seen.
In my (very amateur) opinion, I prefer Maple cues with no chevrons as they distract my line of sight. I've always thought using the grain (chevrons) as an aiming guide to be a bit weird. But hey.
chevrons does not mean natural grain. man made points are called chevrons in other countries
@@PostUp_Time Aren't chevrons the grains in the wood?
What are you looking at when you play the game?. In my pov of the game the cue is too far down for me to even really notice the cue, my eyesight is too focused on the cue ball and object ball
maple shafts are far superior IMHO.
as are top quality 'machine spliced' butts.
@@haydenwalton2766for American Pool maybe, bigger balls, need a stouter wood. UK pool smaller balls. Maple is likely to deflect more than Ash due to its density.
What about Maple cue’s???
No chevrons on those
Good one 😂😂😂😂
chevrons are man made points doesnt matter the type of wood
@@PostUp_Time really??
So a woods grain is man made?
I’ll agree they become more pronounced on an Ash cue with grain filler
But chevrons are a natural part of the grain of wood
Maple and Hickory have them but they are much much closer grained so sport as to not have them
Look any player practices like him should be good
Its whatever suits some players could play with a broom handle
Good advise for buying a car also
First off.. first thing is how it hits.
Second off... Is it a virgin? If it had history it has energy...
Great forget about size, weight and Ferrell :) super pro
Pro's go for free,da.
How the heck this is pro pool player cue video? This is a freaking snooker cue or at least this is used on a 6ft pool table! Wasted my time!
I know Gaz is a top player with Ultimate Pool and probably very convenient for this segment but surely someone like Scott Price who Knows what he’s talking about with cues would of been better suited to this video, I mean even Gaz has Scott sell his Chinese 8 ball cues on eBay for him 😂😂😂
yeah, maybe but then who clicks on that video unless Gaz is interviewing Scott?
@@CornishTigerTVsomeone looking for a guide to buy a cue? Much like the title of the video. If you’re going to put out content titled “what to look for when buying a cue” , why not have someone that knows what to look for rather than a pro that clearly doesn’t understand what a beginner should look for . Wether it’s Scott or someone else Ultimate Pool have people on there books that make cues , Collect cues and have an all round better understanding than Gaz on how to select a cue for the first time, he maybe one of the best players ever but on this topic he is sorely lacking
Chevrons an aiming guide what a load of shite
Forget how it looks
Forget whose name plate is on the cue.
Just pick your weight.
Length
Size of tip.
See how it plays first, before you even decide if you’re thinking of buying it.
Forget this video, it’s useless
Peradon all day lon
So do the pro,s not roll the cue on the table to see how straight it is or do you think he didnt dare do that?...XD
I find the grain or "chevrons" nip my stubble so I tend to have the smooth side up.
Anyone that knows anything about cues knows you don’t roll a cue to see if it’s straight ( unless it doesn’t have a flatspot on the butt) the only guide to straightness is to “rifle” sight it
If it has a flat on the butt the straightest cue in the world will bobble when rolled
@@memphisbulls1859 Thats good to know man...mabey my cue isnt warped after all..)..stephen hendry rolled his cue to show it,s warped in a recent vid
Don’t waste your time watching this video like I did. Nothing here.
I’ve got one of these
Sorry, what?
Gareth Potts is so unlikable
soooo bad
Lmfao cringe
What a load of old toffee😂
Makes me cringe..SERIOUSLY.
POOL is pub game,that's FUN and that's it😂😂🎉
and snooker is a social club game where you're not allowed to talk. that's it.
Good to see gareth is still painting his clothes on 😂