Film Study: Who's better? Drake Maye or Jayden Daniels?

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  • @reasonablegentleman
    @reasonablegentleman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I think you are weighting these factors in a weird way, it's far easier to learn to slide more often than it is to learn to manage an offense.

    • @ghettosuperstar.__9315
      @ghettosuperstar.__9315 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As a person who as played damn near every position in my life included QB. I 98% agree with you. The 2% is for players like Jayden. Where it has nothing to do with learning how to slide. It’s his lack awareness in general when he’s running. He’s tunnel vision AF. And it’s appears to me when he runs he thinks he getting boogie more so then what he actually is. In all my life of playing football I’ve never seen a kid get coached out of that kind of lack of awareness of yourself. Never seen it. Like sliding has nothing to do with this man jumping at his line of scrimmage on 1st and 10 just to get bodied slammed by a line backer🤣 i know you know the play I’m talking bout too. Its 1st and 10 bruh what would be the reason your jumping that high off the ground at the line of damn scrimmage or then the fact that your tunnel vision like crazy. Like bro i like his talent a lot. But if he can’t break out of some of that tunnel vision he won’t last when bigger ppl are hitting him. Like he’s the first player I’ve seen have a highlight tape of getting hit stick. Like bro literally there’s no other player in history since highlights were made that has that. And it’s literally all hit sticks and him getting picked up by D tackles 😭😭

    • @IEdjumacate
      @IEdjumacate 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Drake can manage an offense & he’s proven that. Put Jayden on the UNC team & you’d be saying the same shit about him. He also has like 2 years of starting on him. Nobody thought Jayden was shit his first few years of starting

    • @thebigdubnetwork
      @thebigdubnetwork 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@IEdjumacate now he's the shit 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Theodoredarling
      @Theodoredarling 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@IEdjumacateexactly. Put Maye on that LSU team and Maye would’ve gone 1st pick

  • @samuelblake4751
    @samuelblake4751 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    It seems weird to not dive deeper into the potential aspect, particularly with running an offense, considering the age difference

  • @patrickwest2288
    @patrickwest2288 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I prefer JD, we drafted him 😅

    • @JustMy2Pennies
      @JustMy2Pennies 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nuff said 😂😂😂

    • @WillDiggs
      @WillDiggs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      #HAIL YEAH

  • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
    @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Of these 3, the most important aspect in the NFL is running an offense. Everyone in the NFL has elite physical talent. What separates players is what's between the ears. Jayden is better mentally right now. Unless he gets injured, he'll be the better QB

    • @Jakery1057
      @Jakery1057 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jayden has played 3 more seasons than Maye and out of the 5 seasons he's played he only played elite in ONE of them.

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jakery1057 so? It was the most recent one

    • @Jakery1057
      @Jakery1057 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl Yes it was but Jayden had TWO elite wide receivers also and the same coaching staff. This should be very interesting in the next few seasons. The Commanders wideouts are quite overrated so Jayden will have to do a lot more than he did at LSU...stay tuned.

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Jakery1057 If you watch the film, you'd see that it was Jayden who really made that offense go. Yes, the receivers were elite, but someone had to throw the ball to them. The commanders have Scary Terry (top 10 wideout), Jahan Dotson (7 TDs his rookie year despite missing 4 games that year), Luke McCaffrey (the brother of the reigning offensive player of the year), Austin Ekeler (a running back who is an elite pass catcher), Brian Robinson Jr. (another running back who can catch passes), Ben Sinnott (one of the best receiving tight ends in the draft) and Zach Ertz (3-time Pro Bowler). Daniels will not have a shortage of weapons to work with

    • @teddrickhargrave
      @teddrickhargrave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ⁠@@ChristopherBingham-xx8xl the commanders have no concept of an offensive line while lsu have two first round caliber tackles which one is going in the top 10 next year. And, somehow , jayden still had some of the worst pressure to sack ratio in college football because he hoods the ball for too long

  • @Drilla043
    @Drilla043 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This such a low-effort video bro. Holy shit.

    • @dagr8dwalo777
      @dagr8dwalo777 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      LoL absolutely terrible.

    • @keith9547
      @keith9547 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How does this guy even have a following. Most simplistic analysis I’ve seen.

  • @StabbyMacStabStab
    @StabbyMacStabStab 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "Processing" should've been one of the categories being taken into account.

  • @TurtletheShell
    @TurtletheShell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I think one thing your chart totally misses out on is accuracy / form. Yes, Drake Maye has the stronger arm and higher arm talent potential, but his accuracy and consistency and form are just not even close to as good as Daniels'. That's why Daniels ended up being a signficiantly better deep ball passer, and also why Maye ended up missing a lot of wide open throws that you can't afford to miss in the NFL. As a result, if I were using the exact same chart, I'd actually place JD as the better "arm talent," or rather "passer," for now, with Maye having the higher potential AND lower floor (because, afterall, what if he never figures out his form and accuracy issues? Many QBs never do, and some do: it's a dice roll).

    • @glennhardwick6129
      @glennhardwick6129 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      You forgetting the fact Daniel’s had two first rd receivers so it made up for a lot of bad throws Daniel’s made. It took him 5 years to be this good Maye was good in 2 with way less talent no wr drafted before the 3rd rd 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @michaelbarber3125
      @michaelbarber3125 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Maye is light years ahead of daniels when he was 21... lightyears.

    • @MrExoticDemon
      @MrExoticDemon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@glennhardwick6129All your saying is Daniel’s bad throws were catchable while Maye’s weren’t🤷‍♀️

    • @MrExoticDemon
      @MrExoticDemon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michaelbarber3125To bad he isn’t 21 anymore huh?

    • @michaelbarber3125
      @michaelbarber3125 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @MrExoticDemon jayden had one good year and took him 4 years and transferring to a stacked team to manufacture it. Drake looked like a top 5 draft pick out the gates on a mediocre to bad team. Drake on LSU last year would have outshines jayden.

  • @crayemagic7537
    @crayemagic7537 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bruh this a hack job of an analysis

  • @DianaRussia531
    @DianaRussia531 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I like Daniels...hope he learns to get the F down.

  • @CilantroLimeRy
    @CilantroLimeRy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That first Jayden clip was a rough one to pick based on time and score of that game 🤣

  • @philibusters23
    @philibusters23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a Washington Commanders fan. Before the draft I wanted Maye, after the draft I am thrilled with Daniels and now prefer him because I am a Commanders homer. I think the above analysis by Jackson Krueger is reasonable. Lets be honest, we don't know, and anybody who is really confident that they know how these QB's will pan out is showing their ignorance and youth.

  • @GeorgesOpinion
    @GeorgesOpinion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only people overthinking things choose Maye over Daniels. Drake will get so many people fired who actually need him to be good. Y’all on the internet can project all you want because your jobs aren’t relying on it

    • @Nocsucal-BeatGod
      @Nocsucal-BeatGod 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah…..well, that’s just like, your opinion…….George.
      Nah but in all seriousness, why do you think that? JD was 5th year senior, is 2 or 3 years older, 2 years more experience, 2 closer to his prime, 2 closer to his retirement. JD had an elite offense w/ phenomenal weapons. Drake had 2 years, 2 OC’s, 2 different systems, god awful Oline, and pretty good but crazy inconsistent receivers who mastered the drops & couldn’t create separation. All the while being under enormous constant pressure because no one could block. Yet still put up stupid #’s and was 3rd overall despite it. And when you say QB my very thought is “passing” and when it comes to arm talent & being pin point while also doing it running for you life & not being able to set feet is outstanding on Mayes part. His potential is thru the roof. Too bad he went to a completely gutted Offense

  • @philibusters23
    @philibusters23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Undoubtedly LSU had better receivers and pass blocking than UNC. However one consistent theme I see in the comments is people think Maye had terrible surrounding players around him. That is not true. The pass blocking grades for the five UNC O-Line with the most snaps played are:
    1. Willie Lampkin 82.9
    2. Corey Gaynor 75.4
    3. Spencer Rolland 74.0
    4. Ed Montilus: 73.6
    5. Diego Pounds 72.8
    Three other O-Lineman got significant reps and they were lower at 62.1, 61.9, and 53.5 and the guy with the 9th most snaps had a 41.4 pass blocking grades, so the pass protection was not always good, but over the course of the season, he received decent (not good not bad pass protection). Compared to say Will Levis last year where he had truly bad pass protection in his last season at Kentucky and Drake Maye didn't have it bad. He had fairly average pass protection by ACC standards. Mayes receiving corps was almost certainly in the top half of the ACC , albeit nowhere near LSU's, who probably had 3 first rounders WR's (Nabers, Thomas, and Lacey).

  • @HTTR.Redskins
    @HTTR.Redskins 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Jahan Dotson and Terry Mclaurin are going to struggle this year. The precision from the QB will be poor. They will need larger receivers.

  • @levelwithme8535
    @levelwithme8535 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Maye is better right now. This is a crazy oversimplification of the necessary criteria of being a successful QB. There's also nothing concrete that indicates Daniels can run an offense better.
    Daniels' 3rd receiving option was better than Maye's 1st.

    • @VerdeBoy13
      @VerdeBoy13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Experts don't agree with you. There is no way Maye is better right now.

    • @philthyrich007
      @philthyrich007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where’s his heisman?

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Receiving options have nothing to do with footwork, accuracy, going through progressions, reading defenses, etc. and Daniels is better at all of that. And he was the driving force behind that offense. He helped make those receivers looks as good as they did. They didn't make him great. If anything, he made them great

    • @levelwithme8535
      @levelwithme8535 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@VerdeBoy13 1. They miss often.
      2. There are plenty of experts that do agree with me.

    • @terryrouse1555
      @terryrouse1555 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      May coaching staff are nervous as we speak

  • @PascalRP
    @PascalRP 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How can you do this off the broadcast copy? You need the All-22 by now.

  • @terryrouse1555
    @terryrouse1555 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man I seen may get rocked more than 4 times trying to run and jumping over ppl

  • @jinavl
    @jinavl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    dm will prevail as the better qb..not in 1st year but year 2 and 3

    • @TurtletheShell
      @TurtletheShell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unless JD gets hurt, that seems unlikely. The patriots offense is in shambles, and DM has a LOT of issues he needs to fix before he can be consistent, accurate, and mentally quick enough to really compete with JD. Soonest he might be competitive would likely be after 3 or 4 years imo (this is accounting for needing the team to rebuild their offense, and needing to fix his throwing form, and needing to improve decision making, and needing to improve his presnap reads, and needing to improve his pacing at getting through progressions... it's a lot to learn and not everyone manages to get there... and we're counting on the pats' coaching staff to teach him that). Not saying it's impossible for him to better after a year or two, just unlikely. Also not sure he actually ever will be better if the Pats continue the way they have in recent years. It sucks, but the team these prospects end up with play a large part in their development.

  • @shade8174
    @shade8174 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your vids lately have been below your usual quality. Cant wait for this video and the maye lovers comments to age

  • @Smilodon_ex
    @Smilodon_ex 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would say Jaden Daniel’s more pro ready but Drake maye has more upside

    • @ADSeason25
      @ADSeason25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Drake is better for bith

  • @Blood-Fartz
    @Blood-Fartz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Processing should be at the top of your list. Maye might develope into the more elite player, but I wouldn't bet on that based on where he landed. The cubbards in New England are bare. While Daniels is already an advanced processor. He was smart to focus on that part of his development before becoming a pro.

    • @ADSeason25
      @ADSeason25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You got them mixed up

    • @Blood-Fartz
      @Blood-Fartz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @lukiepookie6227 Nope, the era of the Patriots is over. It was a historic run, but it's over. Meanwhile, Dan Snyder is gone and Washington has an elite front office now. Daniels will be the most successful QB of his class. Grey skies are gonna clear up...😁

    • @ADSeason25
      @ADSeason25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Blood-Fartz talking about processing

    • @Blood-Fartz
      @Blood-Fartz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ADSeason25 and Joe

    • @ADSeason25
      @ADSeason25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Blood-Fartz wow you might be the funniest guy I’ve ever met

  • @LouieOcean.
    @LouieOcean. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Drake Maye would have had 50+ TDs last year if he had the weapons LSU had…

  • @patskers1
    @patskers1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I’m always wary when a player has so much talent around him in college as they move to the pros. That LSU offense was stacked at wr and OL.

    • @makowakeo
      @makowakeo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah and when it wasn’t JD was an awful QB no other way around it

    • @philibusters23
      @philibusters23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@makowakeo Jayden Daniels averaged 8.7 yards per attempt (compared to Drake Maye's 8.5 ypa last year) and threw 17 TD and 2 interceptions as a true freshman in 2019 at Arizona State. Last year was a magical year for Daniels and almost definitely not repeatable without that supporting cast, but Daniels had flashed before last year including when he started as a 18 year true freshman.

  • @theminuteman3460
    @theminuteman3460 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Daniels in every category

    • @Nocsucal-BeatGod
      @Nocsucal-BeatGod 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah that’s just ridiculous

    • @ADSeason25
      @ADSeason25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Delete

  • @sconartist
    @sconartist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If I’m trying to win soon, JD is the pick. Drake is the pick long term- would you rather 2 years developing at ASU or at an NFL level.

  • @mobigsly9595
    @mobigsly9595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    only time will tell

  • @samcanlett5891
    @samcanlett5891 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is such an oversimplified video. Not one of your best.

  • @Nocsucal-BeatGod
    @Nocsucal-BeatGod 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure I agree with a lot of this. There’s a lot X factors & intangibles everyone seems to be a kind of coin toss between these 2. But I never hear the fact Daniels was a 5 year guy Maye was 3. That’s 2 years older, and it’s 2 more years of experience as well as 2 years closer to being “old”. But also, Daniels playing w/ NFL all around him w/ freak WR’s. Maye had a god awful line, avg WR’s who couldn’t consistently get separation and mastered drops. Drake was constantly under enormous pressure. Did he fold? No he still killed despite 2 years younger & everything else. As far as the running you Maye slides Daniels doesn’t. Maye rarely ever slid. He goes full bore unless it’s absolutely senseless, especially if a play has to be made. And part of Mayes “sometimes” inaccurate balls which don’t happen even close to enough to be a problem. He again, was under so much pressure that setting feet properly was a luxury he was rarely afforded. There’s a reason some have said he’s generational. He’s absurdly good. Also he only played 2 years. 2 years, 2 OC’s 2 different systems. Basically the guy had a lot working against him but still killed it. Ceiling is higher.

  • @GarrettHah
    @GarrettHah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is certainly a video…Not using all-22 film and showing one play per player to prove your point? Makes no sense at all. Just really shallow analysis. Also, you fail to mention that JD has played 3 more years as a starter at the FBS level vs Drake's 2. How can you say JD has a higher ceiling running an offense when that's the case? Again, makes no sense.

  • @gear6th679
    @gear6th679 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It doesn't look like Daniels can throw anything other than a deep ball. I'll take maye all day

    • @VerdeBoy13
      @VerdeBoy13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      U don't watch film then

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He can make all the throws.

    • @teddrickhargrave
      @teddrickhargrave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChristopherBingham-xx8xl he consistently misses layups like shallows and crossing checkdowns.

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@teddrickhargrave It's Drake Maye who does that.

    • @teddrickhargrave
      @teddrickhargrave 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ChristopherBingham-xx8xl they both do it and jayden is way older. Hes justin fields without the size and strength and hes kyler murray without the arm talent

  • @EditsByShady
    @EditsByShady 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Daniels >>>>

    • @ADSeason25
      @ADSeason25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      At nothing

  • @HTTR.Redskins
    @HTTR.Redskins 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Washington Commanders camp is going to get really quiet and weird this summer. After a few weeks they are going to witness the lack of arm talent and struggles throwing from an NFL pocket. They will enter the season in panic mode.

    • @zaribhassan1085
      @zaribhassan1085 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lack what arm talent Daniels literally threw for 40 touchdowns and 4 interceptions with a completion percentage of 72% he barely threw turnovers. He also has the deep ball accuracy in the draft and on 20+ yards thrown had 22 touchdowns and 0 interceptions. Daniels also had highest passer rating not only in 2023 but the highest passer rating of all time.

  • @robertborgeson1821
    @robertborgeson1821 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't "now" the same thing as "floor"? Their floor would be if they came into the league and didn't grow at all. That also happens to be where they are now.... Love your channel and your evaluations. Just started the video and maybe I will see why u phrased it like this. Thanks for the entertainment

  • @joselopez-pv7nc
    @joselopez-pv7nc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It ain't gonna be easier in Washington 😂

  • @frankiep9278
    @frankiep9278 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think yall really overrate arm talent, most top QBs don’t have elite arm talent and most QBs that do have it, but have mechanical issues don’t workout (Fields, Wilson, etc.) Allen and Mahomes makes everyone think that they can take someone with only arm talent and develop them into a good QB, but they are anomalies.

    • @ADSeason25
      @ADSeason25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Top QBs in the nfl
      Mahomes Allen stafford Herbert. 3/4 of the top QBs have elite arm talent. Howell Levis are top 12 with elite arm talent

  • @GoGoThaDistrict
    @GoGoThaDistrict 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sam Howell managed the game well at UNC. JD don’t have run to be successful ppl!!!

  • @darnellharris111
    @darnellharris111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Drake will be better because he will last longer

  • @clintpreslar452
    @clintpreslar452 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If Daniels went to a different team and had some time to wait I think they’d be closer, but being a mobile qb going to Washington right after Howell was getting destroyed in the backfield is a recipe for injury. Especially if Daniels doesn’t learn to avoid big hits. I think Maye will be better if they give him time to develop like they did with Josh Allen. The Pats are a worse team right now, but Maye is also used to having poor talent around him, so I don’t think it’s going to come as a shock. If Daniels wasn’t going to Washington I think it’d be a toss up, but with the current teams I think Maye will emerge as the better qb, if not this season, within the next 2-3.

    • @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl
      @ChristopherBingham-xx8xl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Howell was taking hits partly because he was holding onto the ball for too long. He couldn't make decisions quickly enough and he didn't know where his hot routes were. Another reason was that Bieniemy was not running the ball for some reason. Just getting rid of those 2 men will do a lot more good for the offensive line than you realize. Besides, they upgraded the offensive line in free agency.

    • @CoryD_85
      @CoryD_85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are the Pats really a worse team? They got Gonzo & Baker. Funny how the Jets get the Garrett & Gardner so yall hype it up, the Jets? lol any way, Pats also have Polk, Henry, Douglas, Bourne shiiiit Drake might be getting spoiled like Tua with a globetrotting WR team

    • @clintpreslar452
      @clintpreslar452 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CoryD_85 If you look at separation of receivers last season Pats were pretty much on par with the Panthers as the worst in the league. Maybe Polk and Baker can help them out there or if Juju still has any juice in the tank. I think Jets are just slightly better cause Wilson is a stud, but after him they’re not too far apart.

    • @clintpreslar452
      @clintpreslar452 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ChristopherBingham-xx8xl I agree for some of em, but rookie qbs always take more sacks as they get used to the speed of the game. Some of them were certainly on Howell, but some will be on Daniels this year too, that’s just how rookie qbs go. I just don’t trust the Oline to protect Daniels very well and after last season they don’t give me much hope.

    • @CoryD_85
      @CoryD_85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @clintpreslar452 Wilson is overhyped hasn't done anything and he is just one guy, Bourne and Douglas don't have issues with separation they were out with injuries, that was last Year with Parker & Juju and Mac he's gone now alot of new players, no one but you is saying this a worse team cause of separation. NE now has all younger athletic WRs that can play all over the field x, y, slot. New athletic QB, new coaches, we excited over here lol and can't wait. I'm just saying bruh