WATCH NEXT: The Best Thing About Each Suikoden Game - th-cam.com/video/ybiS6-P-yhQ/w-d-xo.html *ONLY MAINLINE GAMES ARE INCLUDED IN THE LIST, NO SPIN-OFFS INCLUDED* TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Intro 0:41 Suikoden 1:34 Suikoden II 2:36 Suikoden III 3:39 Suikoden IV 4:56 Suikoden V
Suikoden I: Its short length Suikoden II: The terrible translation Suikoden III: That it never came out in Europe until much later so I could not play it 😒 Suikoden IV: The terrible ocean travel and half-finished story Suikoden Tactics: The godawful NPC designs and the weird plot centered around people turning into fish monsters. What the fuck. Suikoden V: The slow-paced intro and large number of permanent missable characters
@@StewNWT yes, I do feel it's the best in the series. I own all five of the numbered games as well as tactics, have played all of them to completion, and have determined 3 to be the best, closely followed by 2. You don't have to agree, it's my evaluation of the series.
Worst thing about Suikoden V is that it's forever stuck on PS2. I've been trying to find out if it will run on Steam Deck. If it does, I'll get it in a heartbeat.
Suikoden I: Schtolteheim Reinbach III Suikoden II: Schtolteheim Reinbach III Suikoden III: Schtolteheim Reinbach III Suikoden IV: Schtolteheim Reinbach III
I love the entire series and all points were pretty darn accurate. My first reaction to S4 was similar, but I then went down the rabbit hole of gear and making everyone overpowered via NG+. IMO that's what made it a playable and fun entry for me.
1 has some encounter issues and the slow walking speed can be less enjoyable. For 2 personally the story after luca defeat just took a nose dive, and the major battle system feels weird. For 3 I got almost no positives and dont understand why people rate it so highly as combat, castle and storylines just bricked the fun in the suikoden line for me. 4 main problem was traveling for me and smaller party. Kinda same as 4 as 5 when it comes to travelling but for the a great game.
Bad castle, bad combat, bad story multiple storylines in this format doesn't help at all, recruiting feels pointless due multiple parties, major battles feel bad to do. The game doesn't come together for me making it the worst game in series for me. I would love to see a more indepth story about Luc becoming free of the true rune curse by uniting the lands to get a counter force against his brother, to end in the final battle that he has with the elemental monster in the of the game.
@@missingLEGACY I like S3 too I think it’s criminally underrated. However, I do think that it’s combat system wasn’t as good, and full scale wars were really tiring and repetitive. Other than that, though, I didn’t have any complaints. I loved the storyline and characters.
@@665kanata I don't feel 3's graphics were bad, they just chose a 3D style that emulated the anime style of the first two games, and it's kind of off-putting to some. (Similar to the cartoony art style of the legend of Zelda, wind waker.) But in the case of four, the character designs were bland, the movement was really janky, and the facial expressions were almost non-existent. Not to mention how they dumbed down all of the rune animations, which looked spectacular in 3. I respect your opinion on this, but I can't say that I agree.
I think that IV has the best graphics for the 3D entries and the voice acting is great. There was a data transfer for Suikoden Tactics and there were still plenty of unite attacks, just not as many can be done at once which isn't really that bad as do you need everyone to be doing it at once every time? I agree about the magic animation and four person party though.
I wanted to enjoy Suikoden 1 from every cardiac fiber of my heart, but the game is just so ugly , especially the portraits which looked so washed out that I couldn't force myself to care about the characters despite how much I tried. I know I shouldn't judge a game by how it looks , but in this case the appearance was so unappealing for me that I couldn't look past it Everything else about the series is stellar in my eyes, even Suikoden 3 with it's 3d graphics.
Agreed. The first Suikoden just wasn't up to par with its character portrait and sprite game, compared to other titles from its time in 1995. Suikoden 2, however, made massive improvements in this aspect (one of the best sprite art & character portraits ever imo). A remaster for the first Suikoden is very much needed and I'm excited for it!
Um you are nuts and wrong. Suikoden 1’s character portraits are the best in the series. I love the watercolour art style. And it has the best soundtrack. You’re just wrong
The game looks good though nice jrpg but many would not want to play because of the graphics mostly. People now a days want remade of the game on new console but that just drop the value and the rarenest of the game.
Understandable! but many older games have not been released on modern platforms, so a lot of people play them using emulators that crank up the game's graphics and frame rates to the maximum, in addition to other quality-of-life improvements.
Some of the faults of #1 can be forgiven simply by being the first game. The inventory and equippment issues were thankfully fixed in the sequels. The encounter rates are fixable with the champion rune, but that's not always easy to get. It's a life saver in #4 when you travel the ocean. Gameplaywise, what i found most annoying in #1 was that McDohl could not run, but that will be adressed in the remaster. One funny flaw in #1 was that you could finance the entire liberation army with Gaspar's dice game. The main issue i had with #1 was storyline. Odessa dies too early. Barbarossa only appears 3 times, despite being a major and complex antagonist. Several of the characters, especially the generals, lack a more comprehensive backstory and first appears when you first engage in battle. The dynamic between Mathiu and Leon silverberg seemed lackluster. You don't see the storyline development from the Scarlet Moon Empire perspective as the story unfolds. Especially with Teo McDohl, being a father and general. #5 did quite a good job with this. There's also the issue about the HQ being awkwardly located in the ocean.
Well said. One thing that I would add is the village that housed the Soul Eater. It looked underwhelming despite being such an important place. I get that it isn't going to be this super cool looking village, but there was hardly anything to see.
@@melonusk6120 Yep, I'm a kickstarter backer for Eiyuden Chronicle and I'm excited for it too! But still, the world and lore already established in Suikoden is such a waste if not continued.
1. Short story 2. Too cruel for kids 😂 3. Pairing attack (cant freely move each character), slow pace 4. 4 member party :"), slow pace, super easy boss 😢 5. Too realistic in ratio of person and building 😂 sometimes i got lost in dungeons or even castle
If you think suikoden 2 has a lot of missable characters then suikoden v double down that aspects. I always play vanilla without reading a guide / walktrough everytime I play a new title and the first time I finish suikoden v I only got about 60-70 stars while in suikoden 2 my first time could get 90+ stars
Saying old graphics on old games are bad/worst parts of it are not valid complaints. The random difficulty spikes are. The meandering story (college in 2) are. Missable characters are. It's silly to say old is bad because old.
I believe I said "while Suikodens 2D pixel graphics are charming, they are not the best DURING that time" One example of a better 2D pixel art as well as game mechanics are Chrono Trigger and FF6 which were released around the same time. Suikoden 2 was a different story though 😁
Suikoden 1 imo is still the best story out of all suikodens. Also the one that I liked the most. 2 is a close second. But I always thought Jowys ambitions after Lucas death was lame and unrealistic. Gameplay wise 2 was the best. Didn’t care much for the others. 3 had horrible music also
I believe the Black Sword Rune has impacted his decision-making process. As we have learned throughout the games, true runes have the power to alter or greatly influence a person's thoughts and decisions (many to mention) And The Bright Shield Rune and Black Sword Rune has the nature to fight against each other, just like the past bearers who are close friends as well, such as Genkaku and Han Cunningham.
Jowy saw bad in both sides and wanted to change the system. Considering that he was a naive teenager who was given a lot of power with his True Rune and eventually becoming the king, I think that his decisions made perfect sense.
WATCH NEXT: The Best Thing About Each Suikoden Game - th-cam.com/video/ybiS6-P-yhQ/w-d-xo.html
*ONLY MAINLINE GAMES ARE INCLUDED IN THE LIST, NO SPIN-OFFS INCLUDED*
TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
0:41 Suikoden
1:34 Suikoden II
2:36 Suikoden III
3:39 Suikoden IV
4:56 Suikoden V
My biggest gripe with IV was the downsizing of your party from 6 to 4. With so many characters to recruit, why would you shrink the pary size?
Great point! should've definitely added that in the video 💯
Suikoden I: Its short length
Suikoden II: The terrible translation
Suikoden III: That it never came out in Europe until much later so I could not play it 😒
Suikoden IV: The terrible ocean travel and half-finished story
Suikoden Tactics: The godawful NPC designs and the weird plot centered around people turning into fish monsters. What the fuck.
Suikoden V: The slow-paced intro and large number of permanent missable characters
Thanks for sharing your input!
I'm sorry you missed out on three, in my opinion it's the best in the series.
@@missingLEGACYum…. Are you nuts??? 3 the best in the series?? No.
@@StewNWT yes, I do feel it's the best in the series. I own all five of the numbered games as well as tactics, have played all of them to completion, and have determined 3 to be the best, closely followed by 2. You don't have to agree, it's my evaluation of the series.
@@missingLEGACY and you would be wrong. and nuts
Worst thing about Suikoden V is that it's forever stuck on PS2. I've been trying to find out if it will run on Steam Deck. If it does, I'll get it in a heartbeat.
True story.
It actually does run on the Steam deck!
Me too, but on PS Store.
On PS3 I downloaded suiko 1-2 and 4, but I never understood why the 5 was never uploaded. 😢
@@mikymariani96 why did you skip 3? It's amazing.
It will likely run just fine on emudeck. I've got 2 and 3. They work flawlessly
Suikoden I: Schtolteheim Reinbach III
Suikoden II: Schtolteheim Reinbach III
Suikoden III: Schtolteheim Reinbach III
Suikoden IV: Schtolteheim Reinbach III
I feel like inventory management is the worst thing of every single Suikoden game
I love the entire series and all points were pretty darn accurate. My first reaction to S4 was similar, but I then went down the rabbit hole of gear and making everyone overpowered via NG+. IMO that's what made it a playable and fun entry for me.
Thanks for watching! 🙌
1 has some encounter issues and the slow walking speed can be less enjoyable.
For 2 personally the story after luca defeat just took a nose dive, and the major battle system feels weird.
For 3 I got almost no positives and dont understand why people rate it so highly as combat, castle and storylines just bricked the fun in the suikoden line for me.
4 main problem was traveling for me and smaller party.
Kinda same as 4 as 5 when it comes to travelling but for the a great game.
Three is my favorite, why do you dislike it so much?
Bad castle, bad combat, bad story multiple storylines in this format doesn't help at all, recruiting feels pointless due multiple parties, major battles feel bad to do.
The game doesn't come together for me making it the worst game in series for me.
I would love to see a more indepth story about Luc becoming free of the true rune curse by uniting the lands to get a counter force against his brother, to end in the final battle that he has with the elemental monster in the of the game.
@@patrickroos7270 can't say I agree with any of those statements, but it is what it is.
You dont need to agree as they are opinions and everyone has different opinions.
Therefor we like different that other people dont like.
@@missingLEGACY I like S3 too I think it’s criminally underrated. However, I do think that it’s combat system wasn’t as good, and full scale wars were really tiring and repetitive. Other than that, though, I didn’t have any complaints. I loved the storyline and characters.
Suikoden IV: Ugliest graphics. Bad voice acting. Barely there magic effects. 4 person party limits character use and unite attacks. No data transfer.
Ikr?
And still I love the game lol
Disagree on ugliest graphics. That goes to 3 for me
@@665kanata I don't feel 3's graphics were bad, they just chose a 3D style that emulated the anime style of the first two games, and it's kind of off-putting to some. (Similar to the cartoony art style of the legend of Zelda, wind waker.) But in the case of four, the character designs were bland, the movement was really janky, and the facial expressions were almost non-existent. Not to mention how they dumbed down all of the rune animations, which looked spectacular in 3. I respect your opinion on this, but I can't say that I agree.
I think that IV has the best graphics for the 3D entries and the voice acting is great. There was a data transfer for Suikoden Tactics and there were still plenty of unite attacks, just not as many can be done at once which isn't really that bad as do you need everyone to be doing it at once every time? I agree about the magic animation and four person party though.
I wanted to enjoy Suikoden 1 from every cardiac fiber of my heart, but the game is just so ugly , especially the portraits which looked so washed out that I couldn't force myself to care about the characters despite how much I tried. I know I shouldn't judge a game by how it looks , but in this case the appearance was so unappealing for me that I couldn't look past it
Everything else about the series is stellar in my eyes, even Suikoden 3 with it's 3d graphics.
Agreed. The first Suikoden just wasn't up to par with its character portrait and sprite game, compared to other titles from its time in 1995. Suikoden 2, however, made massive improvements in this aspect (one of the best sprite art & character portraits ever imo). A remaster for the first Suikoden is very much needed and I'm excited for it!
Absolutely agree. The portraits are a disagrace.
Loved the portraits in the first game. The water color style and not overly clean look from the sequels made it much more authentic.
Um you are nuts and wrong. Suikoden 1’s character portraits are the best in the series. I love the watercolour art style. And it has the best soundtrack. You’re just wrong
The game looks good though nice jrpg but many would not want to play because of the graphics mostly. People now a days want remade of the game on new console but that just drop the value and the rarenest of the game.
Understandable! but many older games have not been released on modern platforms, so a lot of people play them using emulators that crank up the game's graphics and frame rates to the maximum, in addition to other quality-of-life improvements.
Some of the faults of #1 can be forgiven simply by being the first game. The inventory and equippment issues were thankfully fixed in the sequels. The encounter rates are fixable with the champion rune, but that's not always easy to get. It's a life saver in #4 when you travel the ocean. Gameplaywise, what i found most annoying in #1 was that McDohl could not run, but that will be adressed in the remaster. One funny flaw in #1 was that you could finance the entire liberation army with Gaspar's dice game. The main issue i had with #1 was storyline. Odessa dies too early. Barbarossa only appears 3 times, despite being a major and complex antagonist. Several of the characters, especially the generals, lack a more comprehensive backstory and first appears when you first engage in battle. The dynamic between Mathiu and Leon silverberg seemed lackluster. You don't see the storyline development from the Scarlet Moon Empire perspective as the story unfolds. Especially with Teo McDohl, being a father and general. #5 did quite a good job with this. There's also the issue about the HQ being awkwardly located in the ocean.
Well said. One thing that I would add is the village that housed the Soul Eater. It looked underwhelming despite being such an important place. I get that it isn't going to be this super cool looking village, but there was hardly anything to see.
Suikoden 6
reason : it doesnt exist
*pain*
Still hoping 😢 but I think I'm setting myself up for a massive disapointment.
@@blastfromthepastgaming try eiyuden chronicle when it releases. Same creator as suikoden 2, they have been developing for years tho.
@@melonusk6120 Yep, I'm a kickstarter backer for Eiyuden Chronicle and I'm excited for it too! But still, the world and lore already established in Suikoden is such a waste if not continued.
@@blastfromthepastgaming agreed. i hope they pay homage to the legacy titles. or at least some easter eggs
Why is everyone speaking as if Eiuden Chronicles had not been released yet? I have it on Xbox One.
1. Short story
2. Too cruel for kids 😂
3. Pairing attack (cant freely move each character), slow pace
4. 4 member party :"), slow pace, super easy boss 😢
5. Too realistic in ratio of person and building 😂 sometimes i got lost in dungeons or even castle
If you think suikoden 2 has a lot of missable characters then suikoden v double down that aspects. I always play vanilla without reading a guide / walktrough everytime I play a new title and the first time I finish suikoden v I only got about 60-70 stars while in suikoden 2 my first time could get 90+ stars
@@austinaldy2150 i didnt state about missable character 😅 i think its not a big deal
Saying old graphics on old games are bad/worst parts of it are not valid complaints. The random difficulty spikes are. The meandering story (college in 2) are. Missable characters are. It's silly to say old is bad because old.
I believe I said "while Suikodens 2D pixel graphics are charming, they are not the best DURING that time" One example of a better 2D pixel art as well as game mechanics are Chrono Trigger and FF6 which were released around the same time.
Suikoden 2 was a different story though 😁
Greenhill was hardly meandering... Some of the best moments of the game occur during that time.
Suikoden 1 imo is still the best story out of all suikodens. Also the one that I liked the most. 2 is a close second. But I always thought Jowys ambitions after Lucas death was lame and unrealistic. Gameplay wise 2 was the best. Didn’t care much for the others. 3 had horrible music also
I agree. Jowy's actions were way out of his character.
I believe the Black Sword Rune has impacted his decision-making process. As we have learned throughout the games, true runes have the power to alter or greatly influence a person's thoughts and decisions (many to mention)
And The Bright Shield Rune and Black Sword Rune has the nature to fight against each other, just like the past bearers who are close friends as well, such as Genkaku and Han Cunningham.
Jowy saw bad in both sides and wanted to change the system. Considering that he was a naive teenager who was given a lot of power with his True Rune and eventually becoming the king, I think that his decisions made perfect sense.
The worst thing is the game is too easy.
I'm glad they stopped making Suikoden games after II. Cause, boy, had they continued then surely they would have run it all into the ground.
Man, this list is terrible.