Sheik Tahir was talking about the African scholars and others who are NOT Arab who knowledge can be taken from. That said, the Ulema refer to the brother as "Sheik". We blacks, once again show a self hatred of our own even as Muslims! Amazing that Islam still has not freed us from the mindset held over and developed by slavery.
Be specific. I am not a scholar, nor a graduate of any Islamic university, but I want to know what you are saying since I get the notion that you are wrong.
It’s about money! In my humble opinion, you can’t have too many people upon the Haqq having classes because people will have choices. And of course people will choose the best, therefore, destroy all competition.
its kinda sad to see this stuff amongst the brothers; keep firm on the path ikhwan; I love your work. Leave those guys alone and let them gossip; they bring their jaahiliyah gang mentality to the deen, may Allah guide them.
Amin, Ya Rabb, it is You Whom we worship and Your Aid we seek; Guide us to The Straight Path, amin! May Allah ta'A'la forgive us and increase us in good moral character, amin!
All of this is causing dissension in the ranks I know Ali Davis and Mufti well the brothers by ALLAHS permission are good guys masha allah Shadeed has never done anything to me personally so much love to these brothers from me. an uncomfortable feeling has descended upon Sunnah tul Nabawiyyah so I go in pray and come on out. that is best for me and my family.
Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome is real amongst Islam.. These are suppose to be students in Islam.. A lot of them need to go sit down and use what they've learned to correct their insides
Muhammad Ibn Adnan no one is refuting spubs we are asking them to stick to their agreement and the warn and call against not only shadeed they do it everyone who isnt with them
Muhammad Ibn Adnan we want to refer refutation to the scholars and once they refute you don't have to refute is it fared ayn to refute leave it to the people of knowledge take them shadeed a statements
its funny, you guys don't know arabic, and dont even know HOW MANY REFUTATIONS SHAYKH RABEE HAS ON HIM --- AL-FAWZAN CALLED HIM A LIAR FOR HIS IRJAA ON THE ISSUE OF A PERSON LEAVING ALL ACTIONS AND STILL HAVING EEMAAN - WHILE THE SALAF SAID SUCH A PERSON IS A KAFIR - AL-FAWZAN SAID THIS IS THE WAY OF MURJIAH - ALSO IN SHAYKH RABEE'S BOOKS THERE ARE STATEMENTS THAT AGREE WITH THE MURJIAH - SHAYKH ABDUL QADIR SHAYBAH AL-HAMD CALLED HIM A FASIQ, LIAR - Again, regardless of these SERIOUS mistakes, as a balanced SUNNI SALAFI I DO NOT TAKE RABEE OUT OF SALAFIYAH OR AHL SUNNAH, AND I DEEM HIM A SCHOLAR - BUT YOUR MANHAJ AND WAY (HADDADI EXTREME) PROBABLY WOULD, BUT HE'S SHAYKH RABEE AND YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE BROS AT SPUBS ETC THAT HE IS THE IMAM OF JARH WA TA'DEEL, - SO I ASK YOU - GO DO RESEARCH OF THE PEOPLE YOU PUT ON A PEDESTAL, AND IF YOU INDEED FEEL A NEED TO EXPOSE ANYONE'S MISTAKE IN DEEN AND OPENLY REFUTE THEM - WHICH IS FROM THE DEEN - THEN DONT MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THEY ARE FROM AHLUL BIDAH AND THEN DO SO WITH SHAYKH RABEE.
What's amazing is how you said he does things that look "funny". Make no mistake brother, retweeting Farrakhan on twitter, and calling Yasir Qadhi "shaykh Yasir " is not "funny" it's sick!
The problem with your "point" is I haven't mentioned anything about spubs nor Abu Khadeejah. That's the problem with you bros. You keep trying to beat around a bush. I don't have fanaticism towards anyone. But you on the other hand keep mentioning shaded as though the man doesn't have any serious mistakes. And until you realize that he does, then it's really nothing to discuss.
السلام عليكم If I can benefit the Muslims in general, is that DEEN UL islaam is NOT A RELIGION. RELIGIONS ARE CREATED AND ORGANIZED BY THE POPE. so any MUSLIM who does not have the correct foundation, is treading in thin water right now.
A lot of new students went over and study deen after being through Philly witnessing that salafi clickism.. I'm proud to see the younger brothers taking the ball, exposing the truth and running with it
We could also go from the aspect that Shadeed is an open "Fasiq" from the aspect that he has retweeted images of women whos Awrah are expose on tweeter, not once, but more than once
Muhammad Ibn Adnan that would just be exposing the muslims sin what is the intention of refuting it's supposed to be bring them to the right way not to destroy a person
If a person is doing sins right out in the open where everyone can see it, then they're EXPOSING they're own self. And he should not be giving dawah. And it's similar to what the Prophet said," If you have no shame, then do as you will."
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته. شيخ، رجاء جعل هذا آخر مقابلة أو خطاب حول موضوعه. وهذا هو شيطان في محاولة لسحب التركيز الخاص بك بعيدا عن هدفك "مشغول الناس مع المعرفة." الله سبحانه وتعالى يقول لنا الباطل سوف يموت. والسماح لها بالهلك! يرجى الاستمرار في التركيز. هذا هو من الشيطان.
I ask Allah to guide you brothers to that which is correct based upon principles and not emotions. This methodology that you brothers are upon is clearly a watered down Manhaj.
Muhammad Ibn Adnan watered down by proof you have or are you speaking from you intellect and placing a ruling because if you are and don't have proof for the so called clearly watered down manhaj you have traits of an innovator that makes a ruling then searches for proof and even if he finds none he still places the ruling
Instead of defending Shadeed in his foolishness, why don't you do what's obligatory upon yourselves of clarifying the truth? And refute him for his statements that clearly go against the salafi methodology. After all the religion is sincere advice.
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله It’s sad that this is going on Just another trick to divide and split especially the Blacks . When are people going to recognize that. Thank you brothers for doing these videos and exposing the truth of what is going on. May Allah reward you for trying to stand up for what is right in Islam . at least you are doing something people with negative comments running their mouths but what are you doing to try to make the Ummah pure and righteous in the manner Allah sent down to us. Once again جزاك الله خيرا Brothers for what you are doing.
Using social media to breed fitnah, Fear Allah, you brothers that have issues with each other have 3 days to address their issues. Plus this is not islam revealing the brothers name on social media and he isn't there to defend himself. Did the salaf do this. What part of islam is this. Islam unites and doesn't divide so what part of Islam is y'all practicing because y'all seem y'all stay dividing brothers and sisters.
This brothers silence about shadeeds major mistakes is an approval of them. How could someone who's studied with the scholars, allow for their picture to be placed on a flyer with women wearing make up?! Would shaykh Wasyuallah or Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Adam be pleased with that?!
Now I see you're just shooting from the hip.... I never made any mention about spubs nor Abu Khadeejah. You have clear Tassub for Shadeed that's clear, and your speech is devoid of any point. Ma'Salama
its funny, you guys don't know arabic, and dont even know HOW MANY REFUTATIONS SHAYKH RABEE HAS ON HIM --- AL-FAWZAN CALLED HIM A LIAR FOR HIS IRJAA ON THE ISSUE OF A PERSON LEAVING ALL ACTIONS AND STILL HAVING EEMAAN - WHILE THE SALAF SAID SUCH A PERSON IS A KAFIR - AL-FAWZAN SAID THIS IS THE WAY OF MURJIAH - ALSO IN SHAYKH RABEE'S BOOKS THERE ARE STATEMENTS THAT AGREE WITH THE MURJIAH - SHAYKH ABDUL QADIR SHAYBAH AL-HAMD CALLED HIM A FASIQ, LIAR - Again, regardless of these SERIOUS mistakes, as a balanced SUNNI SALAFI I DO NOT TAKE RABEE OUT OF SALAFIYAH OR AHL SUNNAH, AND I DEEM HIM A SCHOLAR - BUT YOUR MANHAJ AND WAY (HADDADI EXTREME) PROBABLY WOULD, BUT HE'S SHAYKH RABEE AND YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE BROS AT SPUBS ETC THAT HE IS THE IMAM OF JARH WA TA'DEEL, - SO I ASK YOU - GO DO RESEARCH OF THE PEOPLE YOU PUT ON A PEDESTAL, AND IF YOU INDEED FEEL A NEED TO EXPOSE ANYONE'S MISTAKE IN DEEN AND OPENLY REFUTE THEM - WHICH IS FROM THE DEEN - THEN DONT MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THEY ARE FROM AHLUL BIDAH AND THEN DO SO WITH SHAYKH RABEE.
Why does Shadeed deal with Abu Musimah?! Shaykh Rab'ī refuted him almost 20 years ago. Where's his bayan and Taubah for his clear mistakes?! Unfortunately, it's become a game of let's get everyone together who has been "oppressed" by bros so and so. But the reality is that the affair is like the Arab proverb الطيور على اشكالها تقع "Birds of a feather flock together"
Sheik Tahir was talking about the African scholars and others who are NOT Arab who knowledge can be taken from. That said, the Ulema refer to the brother as "Sheik". We blacks, once again show a self hatred of our own even as Muslims! Amazing that Islam still has not freed us from the mindset held over and developed by slavery.
Be specific. I am not a scholar, nor a graduate of any Islamic university, but I want to know what you are saying since I get the notion that you are wrong.
Very true, that's the identity crisis we suffer from as a people. We leave one slave master for the next. It's very unfortunate. Jealousy is a mofo.
May Allah protect the hearts of His beautiful believers.
Walaykum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu. May Allah bless you and protect you.
It’s about money! In my humble opinion, you can’t have too many people upon the Haqq having classes because people will have choices. And of course people will choose the best, therefore, destroy all competition.
Subhan Allaah. "If all the callers were on the same page, there would be no bi'dah in this city." May Allaah SubwanaTalah Help us all. Aameen.
Aameen
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its kinda sad to see this stuff amongst the brothers; keep firm on the path ikhwan; I love your work. Leave those guys alone and let them gossip; they bring their jaahiliyah gang mentality to the deen, may Allah guide them.
Amin, Ya Rabb, it is You Whom we worship and Your Aid we seek; Guide us to The Straight Path, amin! May Allah ta'A'la forgive us and increase us in good moral character, amin!
Allaahu Akbar
جزاك الله خيرا
All of this is causing dissension in the ranks I know Ali Davis and Mufti well the brothers by ALLAHS permission are good guys masha allah Shadeed has never done anything to me personally so much love to these brothers from me. an uncomfortable feeling has descended upon Sunnah tul Nabawiyyah so I go in pray and come on out. that is best for me and my family.
So what kind picture are you painting?
The issue is that black brothers and some gangster minded Non blacks have brought "thugery" to the Ummah.
Generalisation and racism much?
Have any of you notice! That neither of you began to differ UNTIL YOU GAIN ILM Allah musta'aan
Barakallahu feekum.
@Ali Davis - did you advise Tahir about NOI?
What did the brother do?
Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome is real amongst Islam.. These are suppose to be students in Islam.. A lot of them need to go sit down and use what they've learned to correct their insides
My question is, why don't you brothers openly refute Shadeed for his mistakes, because he does them in the open. And they are not small mistakes.
Muhammad Ibn Adnan no one is refuting spubs we are asking them to stick to their agreement and the warn and call against not only shadeed they do it everyone who isnt with them
Muhammad Ibn Adnan we want to refer refutation to the scholars and once they refute you don't have to refute is it fared ayn to refute leave it to the people of knowledge take them shadeed a statements
Akh I, I made no mention about spubs. Shadeed Muhammad has already been refuted by the scholars what are you talking about?
its funny, you guys don't know arabic, and dont even know HOW MANY REFUTATIONS SHAYKH RABEE HAS ON HIM --- AL-FAWZAN CALLED HIM A LIAR FOR HIS IRJAA ON THE ISSUE OF A PERSON LEAVING ALL ACTIONS AND STILL HAVING EEMAAN - WHILE THE SALAF SAID SUCH A PERSON IS A KAFIR - AL-FAWZAN SAID THIS IS THE WAY OF MURJIAH - ALSO IN SHAYKH RABEE'S BOOKS THERE ARE STATEMENTS THAT AGREE WITH THE MURJIAH - SHAYKH ABDUL QADIR SHAYBAH AL-HAMD CALLED HIM A FASIQ, LIAR -
Again, regardless of these SERIOUS mistakes, as a balanced SUNNI SALAFI I DO NOT TAKE RABEE OUT OF SALAFIYAH OR AHL SUNNAH, AND I DEEM HIM A SCHOLAR - BUT YOUR MANHAJ AND WAY (HADDADI EXTREME) PROBABLY WOULD, BUT HE'S SHAYKH RABEE AND YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE BROS AT SPUBS ETC THAT HE IS THE IMAM OF JARH WA TA'DEEL, - SO I ASK YOU - GO DO RESEARCH OF THE PEOPLE YOU PUT ON A PEDESTAL, AND IF YOU INDEED FEEL A NEED TO EXPOSE ANYONE'S MISTAKE IN DEEN AND OPENLY REFUTE THEM - WHICH IS FROM THE DEEN - THEN DONT MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THEY ARE FROM AHLUL BIDAH AND THEN DO SO WITH SHAYKH RABEE.
I hope my children never know this Islam... Philly you can miss me
The ads are killing me
So Hassan, Moosa, Jameel have issues but Muneer, Tahir, Shadeed you have nothing to say and you say they are playing favorites?
What's amazing is how you said he does things that look "funny". Make no mistake brother, retweeting Farrakhan on twitter, and calling Yasir Qadhi "shaykh Yasir " is not "funny" it's sick!
Muhammad Ibn Adnan scholars give dawah to whoever sufis asharees the more you learn the more you will find out you don't know anything
Muhammad Ibn Adnan these guys got you in a bubble the religion is on the wassit
The problem with your "point" is I haven't mentioned anything about spubs nor Abu Khadeejah. That's the problem with you bros. You keep trying to beat around a bush. I don't have fanaticism towards anyone. But you on the other hand keep mentioning shaded as though the man doesn't have any serious mistakes. And until you realize that he does, then it's really nothing to discuss.
Muhammad Ibn Adnan what University have you graduated from?
How do you know that you are not being manipulated?
Real Man.
السلام عليكم
If I can benefit the Muslims in general, is that DEEN UL islaam is NOT A RELIGION. RELIGIONS ARE CREATED AND ORGANIZED BY THE POPE. so any MUSLIM who does not have the correct foundation, is treading in thin water right now.
Is NOI upon kufr?
Yes but if your still alive brother you know this by now
A lot of new students went over and study deen after being through Philly witnessing that salafi clickism.. I'm proud to see the younger brothers taking the ball, exposing the truth and running with it
We could also go from the aspect that Shadeed is an open "Fasiq" from the aspect that he has retweeted images of women whos Awrah are expose on tweeter, not once, but more than once
Muhammad Ibn Adnan that would just be exposing the muslims sin what is the intention of refuting it's supposed to be bring them to the right way not to destroy a person
If a person is doing sins right out in the open where everyone can see it, then they're EXPOSING they're own self. And he should not be giving dawah. And it's similar to what the Prophet said," If you have no shame, then do as you will."
You can't ask dishonest people to sit down with you
You are making accusations against the brother Jameel and he is not there to defend himself and this is not oppression ?
When Moosa approached you about Abu Khadeejah and Hassan Malik did you confront them?
Dagggg if the Shia called for me I would go I have to get my eman together
Tahir is on level of the scholars...really?
Is it slander that one of the spubs brother talked to a woman inappropriately while married
Majed Mahmood no . Because they come to manbar tell people not to do this stuff but they themselves do it
+Umm Arba not sure if it is true just saw on a website about the brother but when I emailed no one responded
+Umm Arba Do you have proof or if you know anyone who does
Majed Mahmood , that is the issue the brother mention about malik
+Umm Arba yeah there is a website that is exposing him I am not sure if they are lying.Allah knows best
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته. شيخ، رجاء جعل هذا آخر مقابلة أو خطاب حول موضوعه. وهذا هو شيطان في محاولة لسحب التركيز الخاص بك بعيدا عن هدفك "مشغول الناس مع المعرفة." الله سبحانه وتعالى يقول لنا الباطل سوف يموت. والسماح لها بالهلك! يرجى الاستمرار في التركيز. هذا هو من الشيطان.
I ask Allah to guide you brothers to that which is correct based upon principles and not emotions. This methodology that you brothers are upon is clearly a watered down Manhaj.
Muhammad Ibn Adnan watered down by proof you have or are you speaking from you intellect and placing a ruling because if you are and don't have proof for the so called clearly watered down manhaj you have traits of an innovator that makes a ruling then searches for proof and even if he finds none he still places the ruling
Instead of defending Shadeed in his foolishness, why don't you do what's obligatory upon yourselves of clarifying the truth? And refute him for his statements that clearly go against the salafi methodology. After all the religion is sincere advice.
السلام عليكم ورحمة الله
It’s sad that this is going on Just another trick to divide and split especially the Blacks . When are people going to recognize that. Thank you brothers for doing these videos and exposing the truth of what is going on. May Allah reward you for trying to stand up for what is right in Islam . at least you are doing something people with negative comments running their mouths but what are you doing to try to make the Ummah pure and righteous in the manner Allah sent down to us. Once again جزاك الله خيرا
Brothers for what you are doing.
they dealing in personalities and eating the flesh when Islam is so much more profound than that.
So who wants to be Muslim after knowing all this ??
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Using social media to breed fitnah, Fear Allah, you brothers that have issues with each other have 3 days to address their issues. Plus this is not islam revealing the brothers name on social media and he isn't there to defend himself. Did the salaf do this. What part of islam is this. Islam unites and doesn't divide so what part of Islam is y'all practicing because y'all seem y'all stay dividing brothers and sisters.
215 215 so it’s ok for them to say their names on social media and on the minbar
This brothers silence about shadeeds major mistakes is an approval of them. How could someone who's studied with the scholars, allow for their picture to be placed on a flyer with women wearing make up?! Would shaykh Wasyuallah or Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Adam be pleased with that?!
Muhammad Ibn Adnan no but shaykh wasiullah said don't take from abu khadeejah you still do that
Now I see you're just shooting from the hip.... I never made any mention about spubs nor Abu Khadeejah. You have clear Tassub for Shadeed that's clear, and your speech is devoid of any point. Ma'Salama
Ta'asub**
its funny, you guys don't know arabic, and dont even know HOW MANY REFUTATIONS SHAYKH RABEE HAS ON HIM --- AL-FAWZAN CALLED HIM A LIAR FOR HIS IRJAA ON THE ISSUE OF A PERSON LEAVING ALL ACTIONS AND STILL HAVING EEMAAN - WHILE THE SALAF SAID SUCH A PERSON IS A KAFIR - AL-FAWZAN SAID THIS IS THE WAY OF MURJIAH - ALSO IN SHAYKH RABEE'S BOOKS THERE ARE STATEMENTS THAT AGREE WITH THE MURJIAH - SHAYKH ABDUL QADIR SHAYBAH AL-HAMD CALLED HIM A FASIQ, LIAR -
Again, regardless of these SERIOUS mistakes, as a balanced SUNNI SALAFI I DO NOT TAKE RABEE OUT OF SALAFIYAH OR AHL SUNNAH, AND I DEEM HIM A SCHOLAR - BUT YOUR MANHAJ AND WAY (HADDADI EXTREME) PROBABLY WOULD, BUT HE'S SHAYKH RABEE AND YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD BY THE BROS AT SPUBS ETC THAT HE IS THE IMAM OF JARH WA TA'DEEL, - SO I ASK YOU - GO DO RESEARCH OF THE PEOPLE YOU PUT ON A PEDESTAL, AND IF YOU INDEED FEEL A NEED TO EXPOSE ANYONE'S MISTAKE IN DEEN AND OPENLY REFUTE THEM - WHICH IS FROM THE DEEN - THEN DONT MAKE IT SEEM LIKE THEY ARE FROM AHLUL BIDAH AND THEN DO SO WITH SHAYKH RABEE.
Muhammad Ibn Adnan may Allah guide you and i
Why does Shadeed deal with Abu Musimah?! Shaykh Rab'ī refuted him almost 20 years ago. Where's his bayan and Taubah for his clear mistakes?! Unfortunately, it's become a game of let's get everyone together who has been "oppressed" by bros so and so.
But the reality is that the affair is like the Arab proverb
الطيور على اشكالها تقع
"Birds of a feather flock together"