She destroyed any trust she may have had with her children. The younger one's life was just blown apart 😢. She needed the ex-husband's permission to even take him on that trip. I don’t think the ex will take to kindly to news she'd gotten remarried in secret. What a mess 🤦🏾♀️!
Why would their kids ever feel safe with them ever again? How could they ever know what they're saying is the truth? If it wasn't for this one really stupid decision, I would really love this couple. The oldest son has been so betrayed but he feels like he has to stuff it and not say how he feels. And how humiliating that she made him believe that she wanted his approval and blessing when it was already a done deal. And these are kids who have already had their sense of security, identity, and reality rocked when their parents divorced. This is psychologically so damaging.
She is very easy to read. Want to do something impulsive that no one would approve of because it’s impulsive? Do it in secret so you can get your way without asking or telling anyone how they’d feel! Your children and ex will have no say so. Forget treating them respectfully and responsibly! Just skulk around behind your children’s backs-for YEARS! What weak parents ☹️
@@JustJerseyJo95 I once experienced a lady flossing her teeth at the table at work. That was a traumatic experience for me. She also smelled of cat pee. She didn't work there long
These characters have issues with lying. It's hard to watch the people in a person's life that are claimed to be loved go through the shock. Trust being shattered in chards everywhere. It's a horrible domino effect 😞🙄
A lie by omission is still a lie. The only thing she did was teach her kids to not hold themselves to account and that it's ok to lie. Also, it looked like her oldest son already knew she was about to spill the beans. That smirk on his face spoke volume!
She claims her kids feelings matter & she’d never abandon them WHILE ignoring their feelings and planning her abandonment of them. What a sorry excuse for a parent.
Right, but no one is saying anything about Tigerlily's children! She's doing the same thing but because she doesn't even mention her kids, no one says anything!!
I am gutted that these 90 day woman with children send the message that their children are not their priority...that they would easily abandon them for a man. Despicable and self serving behavior and a lack of a moral and ethical compass to do the right thing as mothers by their children..Talk about setting their children up for insecure attachment...
I keep thinking how she or her husband would feel if their kids did that to them. It’s so ridiculous. How can the kids even recover from this and trust them again?
Why did they marry secretly in the first place? probably because she thought she would face objections and just didn't want to listen to any of that. Kinda doubt that the kids dad would be good with his young kids moving to Ireland.
At this point 90 day fiance seems to be about the WORST and most neglectful, fame seeking single parents. . . She maybe one of the first to show her kids on the show but what about jasmine, manuel, shakina, loren apparently has 2?, liz. . .
So what happens if the children end up with a negative relationship with him, they just don't get along because right now its the 1st meeting and holding time so everyone is trying to be nice. Personally I couldn't ever imagine hurting my children like this, it's telling them they weren't important or loved enough to be told. Those boys are not in the slightest bit interested in leaving America and their dad but I've got a feeling she'll leave them. So sad but worse it's cruel
TLC always hires mothers that don’t care about their kids! Now with Loren I guess we are showcasing bad Dads as well. Joanne is another Jasmine in my opinion! All about HER. Very sad- her kids are amazing and I feel so bad for them.
So she figured she will marry the guy who lives with his mother and is raising a daughter, knowing he would never come to the states and wait two years while they’re on the show so the kids can’t really react the way they want to because of the cameras, what a wonderful life coach and mom😮
I came to say neglection isn't a word... then I looked it up and it IS actually a word (which I have never heard, lol). I have only ever heard neglect and negligence. I guess neglection is the old latin word :D
The new husband looks disreputable. His tats are too extreme. I don't think she will stay married to him, once he shows his true self. I think she did not tell anyone that she was married because she was getting alimony checks, and if she got married, that cuts them off. Maybe now, 2 years later, the alimony has stopped, so she feels it's OK to admit she is married. In effect, she committed fraud on her ex-husband, IMO. He is not going to agree that the boys move to Ireland. The boys don't want to move, either, and the court won't make the older one, and the younger won't want to leave his brother, father, grandmother, friends and school. I'm wondering what motivates her new husband? Is he planning on coming to the US? Is he another visa bro? She is not attractive, and not edgy, and they don't look good together, so what is the deal?
I've done some stupid shit as a mother and things id change if I could go back however I could never move away from or do anything to put more space between me and them, absolutely nuts. This woman seems like she doesn't live in reality it's all about fun and doing what feels good to her
I agree Madzie, the time to tell your kids is before you married.
Her kids do not come first, she’s ready to leave them behind
Could not imagine putting a man before my child!
Those kids have lost all the trust and security😢
She destroyed any trust she may have had with her children. The younger one's life was just blown apart 😢. She needed the ex-husband's permission to even take him on that trip. I don’t think the ex will take to kindly to news she'd gotten remarried in secret. What a mess 🤦🏾♀️!
This woman will never be able to reprimand her kids for lying.
She just gave her kids significant trauma and this will determine how they treat women and view women moving forward
@@hannahdyson9963 sadly
You should never do such a thing.
She says kids are first yet puts herself first. I cant see this going well. Every kid wants their mother in childhood
How does this show manage to find the most Delulu people on planet earth
Why would their kids ever feel safe with them ever again? How could they ever know what they're saying is the truth? If it wasn't for this one really stupid decision, I would really love this couple. The oldest son has been so betrayed but he feels like he has to stuff it and not say how he feels. And how humiliating that she made him believe that she wanted his approval and blessing when it was already a done deal. And these are kids who have already had their sense of security, identity, and reality rocked when their parents divorced. This is psychologically so damaging.
She is very easy to read. Want to do something impulsive that no one would approve of because it’s impulsive? Do it in secret so you can get your way without asking or telling anyone how they’d feel! Your children and ex will have no say so. Forget treating them respectfully and responsibly! Just skulk around behind your children’s backs-for YEARS! What weak parents ☹️
I kept thinking, "Chew your food with your mouth closed.
THANK YOU! I hate hearing or seeing someone eat with their mouth open
Yeah, that's one thing that just crawls under my skin!!
@@JustJerseyJo95 I once experienced a lady flossing her teeth at the table at work. That was a traumatic experience for me. She also smelled of cat pee. She didn't work there long
These characters have issues with lying. It's hard to watch the people in a person's life that are claimed to be loved go through the shock. Trust being shattered in chards everywhere. It's a horrible domino effect 😞🙄
A lie by omission is still a lie. The only thing she did was teach her kids to not hold themselves to account and that it's ok to lie. Also, it looked like her oldest son already knew she was about to spill the beans. That smirk on his face spoke volume!
This is a rough mid life dumpster fire she just dragged her kids too 🙄 GROSS!
She is not a good mum. I feel so bad for those poor boys!
Her kids have Yet to come first. Every move she's made so far is with her 1st in line.
She claims her kids feelings matter & she’d never abandon them WHILE ignoring their feelings and planning her abandonment of them. What a sorry excuse for a parent.
She was lonely and just thinking about her needs. She did a Tiger Lilly or Tiger Lilly did a Joanne🤣🤣
Right, but no one is saying anything about Tigerlily's children! She's doing the same thing but because she doesn't even mention her kids, no one says anything!!
I am gutted that these 90 day woman with children send the message that their children are not their priority...that they would easily abandon them for a man. Despicable and self serving behavior and a lack of a moral and ethical compass to do the right thing as mothers by their children..Talk about setting their children up for insecure attachment...
I keep thinking how she or her husband would feel if their kids did that to them. It’s so ridiculous. How can the kids even recover from this and trust them again?
Worst mom award 🏆
She should win mother of the year award.
This is so awful.
What Mom behaves like this
Why did they marry secretly in the first place? probably because she thought she would face objections and just didn't want to listen to any of that. Kinda doubt that the kids dad would be good with his young kids moving to Ireland.
She is disgusting for this!!!
Neglection? 😂😅 what word is that?
I was wondering the same thing!!
At this point 90 day fiance seems to be about the WORST and most neglectful, fame seeking single parents. . . She maybe one of the first to show her kids on the show but what about jasmine, manuel, shakina, loren apparently has 2?, liz. . .
She is a terrible mother!!!!
So the kids know nothing, the kids dad knows nothing but thee married
@@MelanieBarker-n4o shambolic 🤦🏿♂️
@@movingmad. crazy man
So what happens if the children end up with a negative relationship with him, they just don't get along because right now its the 1st meeting and holding time so everyone is trying to be nice. Personally I couldn't ever imagine hurting my children like this, it's telling them they weren't important or loved enough to be told. Those boys are not in the slightest bit interested in leaving America and their dad but I've got a feeling she'll leave them. So sad but worse it's cruel
TLC always hires mothers that don’t care about their kids! Now with Loren I guess we are showcasing bad Dads as well. Joanne is another Jasmine in my opinion! All about HER. Very sad- her kids are amazing and I feel so bad for them.
All aboard the Madzie hate train! 📢 *crickets* ..haha oh god I'm glad those haters are finally gone 😂😂 Or Michael stans. Whatever they were 🫡
So she figured she will marry the guy who lives with his mother and is raising a daughter, knowing he would never come to the states and wait two years while they’re on the show so the kids can’t really react the way they want to because of the cameras, what a wonderful life coach and mom😮
This couple is awful.
I came to say neglection isn't a word... then I looked it up and it IS actually a word (which I have never heard, lol). I have only ever heard neglect and negligence. I guess neglection is the old latin word :D
There’s no word as neglection. It’s just neglect. Basic English
The new husband looks disreputable. His tats are too extreme. I don't think she will stay married to him, once he shows his true self. I think she did not tell anyone that she was married because she was getting alimony checks, and if she got married, that cuts them off. Maybe now, 2 years later, the alimony has stopped, so she feels it's OK to admit she is married. In effect, she committed fraud on her ex-husband, IMO. He is not going to agree that the boys move to Ireland. The boys don't want to move, either, and the court won't make the older one, and the younger won't want to leave his brother, father, grandmother, friends and school. I'm wondering what motivates her new husband? Is he planning on coming to the US? Is he another visa bro? She is not attractive, and not edgy, and they don't look good together, so what is the deal?
Superficial much? 😮
@@RakhelaTired-of-SO-much IMO her blah looks match her blah character.
@alc4080 so she looks blah and he looks disreputable? Thanks for confirming your superficiality
2:03 she is a hot mess and selfish
I've done some stupid shit as a mother and things id change if I could go back however I could never move away from or do anything to put more space between me and them, absolutely nuts. This woman seems like she doesn't live in reality it's all about fun and doing what feels good to her
This woman is too old to still be so scatter-brained.