3:13 this was actually them paying homage to the “escape the corset” movement which is a feminist movement in korea to free women from the patriarchal beauty standards imposed on them so it’s really not about the ribbon lol
ohh that's dope!! Now their second performance blends so well with the meaning of that. I just wish the reveal didn't take so long :X but really though, I love that they did that, especially being in Korea itself. I wonder if any Koreans took offense to it? You know the ones I mean (the sexist ones lmao).
not saying bebe didn't deserve to win BC THEY DEFINITELY DESERVE THE WIN, but if it was truly a global show jam def would have won, their mission views alone are proof of that
@@spamanthatactually in international bebe can fight with Jr for the spot as bebe also has lots of international fans so you can't really say that Jr would have won no one really knows how many international fans they have
I think that as more SWF series come out eventually they will let a non-Korean group win, but not for their second season. That is nothing against Bebe, because I think they are outstanding and were on equal footing with JR for a lot of the season.
@@KiboyyahBebe's international support comes mainly from knowing Bada and the group's presence in kpop. But Kirsten alone, supercedes the group and Bada in terms of worldwide fame, exposure, dance variety and experience. She has competed and won, many HipHop international competitions and works with her crew Royal Family and regularly with Rihanna Fenty, Justin Bieber and Jlo. Although a new crew, JR's rep is stronger.in the international arena. In the kpop arena, Bebe would be stronger.
i know this is all tongue in cheek and not to be taken serious, but jam removing the corset was in reference to the south korean “escape the corset” movement. i know a lot of us foreigners didnt catch it, but its cause it was meant for the koreans. 😊
See, my ass was sitting here worried I'd offend Koreans because of pizza toppings lmao oop! But thanks for this!! I pinned one of these kinds of comments to the top to educate others (aka me)
The fact JR came second in the live text votes is amazing in itself! People reckon jam republic would have won if international voting was allowed but I don't think that's necessarily true as Bebe has a lot of international fans as well. I'm so disappointed for Mannequeen though. They deserve better
I don’t even know Bebe…..and only because JR and mainly Kristen joined the show I heard of them. Not bad mouthing Bebe…because I believe they bonded so much with JR, but the fact that International viewers weren’t able to vote..and if they had…JR would have won. Besides all of that…..I think the show was good for many and I loved seeing the relationship built amongst dancers. I like all of them and each brought their own styles which was great. I think they need to do away with the popular voting and keep it with the professional judges to do the votes. So, this may have given the other groups greater chances as well.
nahh bebe's international fame doesn't come close to jam republic's- especially two members are literally from a global dance crew (royal family). So the results would be a lot different if global votes counted much higher than the korean live audience votes.
Tbh im still kinda salty Tsubakill got eliminated first. But it was rigged when they announced that 80% of public voting was gonna influence the winner soooo it was bs but either way Congrats to all the teams tbh 💜🩷💙💛🩶💚🧡❤️
Honestly whoever won didn't matter too much for me. They all ate and gave the best dance TV show in 2023. The Korean survival show has been so void since the end of SWF 1 (SMF didn't serve at all). Honestly I agree that Mannequeen was too much of a serve to the regular people, but they really cater to the gays. I have been watching Waackxxxy & Yoonji battled for a long time and finally the world are able to see their skills in the TV. I didn't expect to love JR this much too, To me the choreos I want to learn the most are theirs. The breakout star that benefits the most from the show is actually Lady Bounce. They really went from underground and finally people acknowledge them as a team. Regardless of Mnet's shadiness, I'm thankful that they give this show to us. I can't wait for SGF2! Also Jay2 being an icon and stealing the show got me fr!!
If we’re keeping it 100, I don’t think any SF season is going to be as good as SWF1. It felt different - the no respect battles and crew intro episodes was some of the best survival show tv I’ve ever seen. Everyone was playing at the same level, the stakes were high for everyone and there was a HUNGER to bring street dance out to the national stage. But after that - smf and swf2 just felt a little too constructed and made to guarantee success. It literally shares the same formula as season 1. We don’t need s1 replicated bc there’s plenty of legitimate human stories still left untold from that space.
@@khaleesithechill I'm with you 100% SWF 1 started it all, and thanks to all of the 8 crews, the public now are more interested in the dancer world (the back up dancers & the underground dancers). What I like about SWF 1 however, even though the public votes played a part, it was not the main determinant. If not, crew like YGX/Hook will definitely win. However, because they pioneered this movement and had no idea if the show would create such a buzz, they played it safe by using mainly judges' scoring system. It is apparent by how the top 4 are mix choreo and underground dancers, whereas SWF 2 are just popular groups. I feel like SWF 2 is an upgrade with the presence of JR and Tsubakill, however I personally feel like the scoring relied too heavily on popularity which is why the top 4 are the most popular crews. It's kinda predictable honestly.
@arsenioarsenio373 honestly - I didn’t mind the voting system because to some degree, how the crew is being received publicly needs to be measured. However this shouldnt be the sole deciding factor because the public isn’t necessarily knowledgeable about dance as their industry experts are. And let’s be real - if it was really ALL popularity, JR would’ve won. They withdrew international voting in the final round which to me was a clear effort to not have JR win. So SWF2 grand final had something other than popularity at play lol But yeah, my personal pick for winner would’ve been Tsubakill. The challenges, the battles - when I watched it, it was clear there was an effort to edit down how good they were. Then after seeing some their content away from that environment - I’m convinced they had what it took to be best female dance crew. They simply couldn’t continue in the season because there would’ve been a foreign gf. That would’ve been a disaster lol. So yeah, I just miss SWF1. It felt real. All the back stories felt legitimate.
I agree with a lot of points made. The ending credit alone show why Bebe won (and I am Jammies) I still think a lot of the show was cater for 1Mil to win - from Mina Myoung presence, Hwasa challenge ect…. Mannequeen were most consistent and were really unlucky. Jammies did what they had to do.
Totally agree, I think if the show was "rigged" it was "rigged" in 1Mil's favor (I mean to pick Hwasa who has worked with 1Mil so much...) However Bebe, Mannequin, and JR showcased significantly better skills than 1Mil (imo).
Congrats to Bebe and all the other groups. I'm honestly glad its over so people can stop bickering and offending the other groups. Mannequeen will always be my no 1, but that is because I am very attracted to whacking/waacking, they did absolutely fantastic. I love them so much!
true that. yooji-wackxxxy duo won me over hahaha. they are the most riot crew for me. I have faves and massively OK who won in the end. THE BEST FINAL 4 FOR ME. I cant with delulu fans hahaahha
☹️ I can’t believe it’s over already! Best season ever! Mnet did some evil editing which is mostly the reason for the backlash & hate! That was a great mix of dance crews! Jam Republic is my favorite but all the crews ate! Seeing all their unique styles and performances during missions & battles made the show exciting!
The thing about the live voting was that you needed to have a Korean number to vote so even if people in the west were awake they would not of been able to vote because believe me I tried and it did not work
0:56 when i saw all the stuff they performed for the finals i was like guys can we give lia kim a break she JUST HAD A MENTAL BREAKDOWN BC SHE CANT MEMORIZE CHOREO AS QUICK AS OTHERS 😂😂😂 and jam said on an interview they went back to NZ before the finals for some reason?? So they only had 13 hours to rehearse before going live
This is soooo true😂 The duo we deserve from the start. BadaXkirsten❤❤❤ I still believe they were the biggest benefactor of this show. Lia kim second, her and Mina moment was just 🤌🤌. I think this show showed her she got her crew again since the core 1mil left. That just adds to her depression but girl was a fighter. Harimu couldn't outshine the unnies so she settled for the biggest hype-person in the show. I love her and JJ's reacts hahahha Girl I cant, I WAS SO INCENSED with sgdf2!!! Ugh I need all me leaders not Aiki and Gabee (as much as I love them)
Can't believe toxic fans are complaining about the winners...even Jam Republic personally called you guys out for being too toxic Winning doesn’t fcking matter, none of the dancers really cared about the ranking...the main objective was to make it to the final 4 so you can get more screentime
This show was rigged from ep 1 till the end. Can’t believe they dared to call this a dance competition whereas while we already knew who is gonna win when they announce the voting system. RIDICULOUS, the most popular Koreans team will win and that’s exactly what happened not even surprising. At least if a Korean team has to be the winner MQ was the best. But bada’s popularity won over talent what ashame for the dance industry.
Right?!? Cause of that darn popularity vote MQ couldn't even have a chance at that trophy, and since only Koreans can vote it was quite obvious that JR wouldn't win too...
This is the most delusional and ridiculous opinion I've come across, i cannot😂😂😂😂 I dunno why some people has no common sense is beyond me. This show is pure entertainment that was catered to center stage DANCERS, PROFESSIONAL DANCERS. It was catered for the public that Dancers are also artists not just backup to singers and idols. And to think this are dancers that was popular DUE TO THEIR TALENT and some people couldn't wrap that around their heads. lol they were not IDOLS MEGHAAAD. Casual viewers have thoroughly enjoyed the show, only those rabid delulu fans/bandwagoners have been barking since the finale. lol.
@@jeankate9721 the real delulu fans are the users who post about bada ONLY while their usernames are “bada’s wife” “bada’s secret lover” which is why saying they’re popular due to their talent is not a good argument. Bada was the main star of the group. They were boring compared to other groups, every performance was the same. They put masks on and everyone’s acting like it’s some unique, out of this world, amazing performance... Also don’t act like it had nothing to do with the fact that JR were foreigners. If they said they were a global show, they should’ve let global fans vote. Not just Korea. MNET is also known for rigging results.
Im not gonna lie but in so glad that jr got Beyonce, cause i just know there other groups would have done who run the world, and I’m just do SICK AND TIRED OF IT 😭😭
I didn't expect Mannequeen to be in 4th, 3rd at least or 2nd but not 4th. I was really hoping that JR would take the win but we all knew that was never gonna happen because...Korea. Bebe for 1st Mmmmmmm I don't think 1st was where they should've been placed. Overall, the ladies did an amazing job with their perfomances.
finally, i been waiting! now that it's over I think I can confirm you have spelled mannequeen differently in like every description box haha. I'm happy for you that your crush Bada won. I was the one person rooting for 1Million lol. What show are you going to cover next??
1million?? you never cease to surprise me Mr Blue Elephant lmaooo and you been calling me out for my mannequeen spelling. I think you might be the only one who looks at the description box. I stan a loyal queen
I'm finally at that point of getting entertained at how dimwitted the Korean audience actually is, not knowing major players like The Royal Family being more or less present in this season.
You have no idea what your talking about mannequin was better then bada and the girls and they placed last so you need to stop trying to cause drama between fans
I’m sorry if I sound at all like I’m attacking you but I’m 1000% sure the corset removal was just as a move to represent power and feminism, because if you listen to the lyrics of that section they were dancing to, it makes sense (and also what other comments have also mentioned abt it now that I read through them). It’s pretty obvious the cloth was for outfit/choreography reasons 😭😭
3:13 this was actually them paying homage to the “escape the corset” movement which is a feminist movement in korea to free women from the patriarchal beauty standards imposed on them
so it’s really not about the ribbon lol
ohh that's dope!! Now their second performance blends so well with the meaning of that. I just wish the reveal didn't take so long :X but really though, I love that they did that, especially being in Korea itself. I wonder if any Koreans took offense to it? You know the ones I mean (the sexist ones lmao).
@@thekwatchlistdo your research
i will die on this hill: there's no way in hell mnet would have let a non korean group win the show, period.
not saying bebe didn't deserve to win BC THEY DEFINITELY DESERVE THE WIN, but if it was truly a global show jam def would have won, their mission views alone are proof of that
@@spamanthatactually in international bebe can fight with Jr for the spot as bebe also has lots of international fans so you can't really say that Jr would have won no one really knows how many international fans they have
I think that as more SWF series come out eventually they will let a non-Korean group win, but not for their second season. That is nothing against Bebe, because I think they are outstanding and were on equal footing with JR for a lot of the season.
@@KiboyyahBebe's international support comes mainly from knowing Bada and the group's presence in kpop.
But Kirsten alone, supercedes the group and Bada in terms of worldwide fame, exposure, dance variety and experience. She has competed and won, many HipHop international competitions and works with her crew Royal Family and regularly with Rihanna Fenty, Justin Bieber and Jlo.
Although a new crew, JR's rep is stronger.in the international arena.
In the kpop arena, Bebe would be stronger.
@@Kiboyyah Kirsten alone has more popularity internationally than bebe, let alone jam republic in whole
i know this is all tongue in cheek and not to be taken serious, but jam removing the corset was in reference to the south korean “escape the corset” movement. i know a lot of us foreigners didnt catch it, but its cause it was meant for the koreans. 😊
See, my ass was sitting here worried I'd offend Koreans because of pizza toppings lmao oop! But thanks for this!! I pinned one of these kinds of comments to the top to educate others (aka me)
@@thekwatchlistu gud. i was laughing when you said it cause im sure most ppl thought the same way. but your videos always make me laugh 😂
The fact JR came second in the live text votes is amazing in itself! People reckon jam republic would have won if international voting was allowed but I don't think that's necessarily true as Bebe has a lot of international fans as well. I'm so disappointed for Mannequeen though. They deserve better
Bebe has far less international fame over JR. Kristen's popularity alone is higher than Bebes internationally.
Tbh Mannequeen deserved better
I don’t even know Bebe…..and only because JR and mainly Kristen joined the show I heard of them. Not bad mouthing Bebe…because I believe they bonded so much with JR, but the fact that International viewers weren’t able to vote..and if they had…JR would have won. Besides all of that…..I think the show was good for many and I loved seeing the relationship built amongst dancers. I like all of them and each brought their own styles which was great. I think they need to do away with the popular voting and keep it with the professional judges to do the votes. So, this may have given the other groups greater chances as well.
nahh bebe's international fame doesn't come close to jam republic's- especially two members are literally from a global dance crew (royal family). So the results would be a lot different if global votes counted much higher than the korean live audience votes.
Who is Bebe? I only know Bada lee
Tbh im still kinda salty Tsubakill got eliminated first. But it was rigged when they announced that 80% of public voting was gonna influence the winner soooo it was bs but either way Congrats to all the teams tbh 💜🩷💙💛🩶💚🧡❤️
tsubakill wouldve eaten up the chilli challenge
Honestly whoever won didn't matter too much for me. They all ate and gave the best dance TV show in 2023. The Korean survival show has been so void since the end of SWF 1 (SMF didn't serve at all).
Honestly I agree that Mannequeen was too much of a serve to the regular people, but they really cater to the gays. I have been watching Waackxxxy & Yoonji battled for a long time and finally the world are able to see their skills in the TV.
I didn't expect to love JR this much too, To me the choreos I want to learn the most are theirs.
The breakout star that benefits the most from the show is actually Lady Bounce. They really went from underground and finally people acknowledge them as a team.
Regardless of Mnet's shadiness, I'm thankful that they give this show to us. I can't wait for SGF2!
Also Jay2 being an icon and stealing the show got me fr!!
YES finally some Lady Bounce appreciation, they def won even if they couldn't've reach finals. I am rooting for them, they have a bright future.
If we’re keeping it 100, I don’t think any SF season is going to be as good as SWF1. It felt different - the no respect battles and crew intro episodes was some of the best survival show tv I’ve ever seen. Everyone was playing at the same level, the stakes were high for everyone and there was a HUNGER to bring street dance out to the national stage.
But after that - smf and swf2 just felt a little too constructed and made to guarantee success. It literally shares the same formula as season 1. We don’t need s1 replicated bc there’s plenty of legitimate human stories still left untold from that space.
@@khaleesithechill I'm with you 100% SWF 1 started it all, and thanks to all of the 8 crews, the public now are more interested in the dancer world (the back up dancers & the underground dancers). What I like about SWF 1 however, even though the public votes played a part, it was not the main determinant. If not, crew like YGX/Hook will definitely win. However, because they pioneered this movement and had no idea if the show would create such a buzz, they played it safe by using mainly judges' scoring system. It is apparent by how the top 4 are mix choreo and underground dancers, whereas SWF 2 are just popular groups.
I feel like SWF 2 is an upgrade with the presence of JR and Tsubakill, however I personally feel like the scoring relied too heavily on popularity which is why the top 4 are the most popular crews. It's kinda predictable honestly.
@arsenioarsenio373 honestly - I didn’t mind the voting system because to some degree, how the crew is being received publicly needs to be measured. However this shouldnt be the sole deciding factor because the public isn’t necessarily knowledgeable about dance as their industry experts are.
And let’s be real - if it was really ALL popularity, JR would’ve won. They withdrew international voting in the final round which to me was a clear effort to not have JR win. So SWF2 grand final had something other than popularity at play lol
But yeah, my personal pick for winner would’ve been Tsubakill. The challenges, the battles - when I watched it, it was clear there was an effort to edit down how good they were. Then after seeing some their content away from that environment - I’m convinced they had what it took to be best female dance crew. They simply couldn’t continue in the season because there would’ve been a foreign gf. That would’ve been a disaster lol.
So yeah, I just miss SWF1. It felt real. All the back stories felt legitimate.
I agree with a lot of points made. The ending credit alone show why Bebe won (and I am Jammies) I still think a lot of the show was cater for 1Mil to win - from Mina Myoung presence, Hwasa challenge ect….
Mannequeen were most consistent and were really unlucky. Jammies did what they had to do.
Totally agree, I think if the show was "rigged" it was "rigged" in 1Mil's favor (I mean to pick Hwasa who has worked with 1Mil so much...) However Bebe, Mannequin, and JR showcased significantly better skills than 1Mil (imo).
Congrats to Bebe and all the other groups. I'm honestly glad its over so people can stop bickering and offending the other groups. Mannequeen will always be my no 1, but that is because I am very attracted to whacking/waacking, they did absolutely fantastic. I love them so much!
true that. yooji-wackxxxy duo won me over hahaha. they are the most riot crew for me. I have faves and massively OK who won in the end. THE BEST FINAL 4 FOR ME. I cant with delulu fans hahaahha
☹️ I can’t believe it’s over already! Best season ever! Mnet did some evil editing which is mostly the reason for the backlash & hate! That was a great mix of dance crews! Jam Republic is my favorite but all the crews ate! Seeing all their unique styles and performances during missions & battles made the show exciting!
The advertisers are the biggest winner tbh, they be getting that sweet sweet finale screentime
The thing about the live voting was that you needed to have a Korean number to vote so even if people in the west were awake they would not of been able to vote because believe me I tried and it did not work
0:56 when i saw all the stuff they performed for the finals i was like guys can we give lia kim a break she JUST HAD A MENTAL BREAKDOWN BC SHE CANT MEMORIZE CHOREO AS QUICK AS OTHERS 😂😂😂 and jam said on an interview they went back to NZ before the finals for some reason?? So they only had 13 hours to rehearse before going live
This is soooo true😂 The duo we deserve from the start. BadaXkirsten❤❤❤ I still believe they were the biggest benefactor of this show. Lia kim second, her and Mina moment was just 🤌🤌. I think this show showed her she got her crew again since the core 1mil left. That just adds to her depression but girl was a fighter. Harimu couldn't outshine the unnies so she settled for the biggest hype-person in the show. I love her and JJ's reacts hahahha
Girl I cant, I WAS SO INCENSED with sgdf2!!! Ugh I need all me leaders not Aiki and Gabee (as much as I love them)
Can't believe toxic fans are complaining about the winners...even Jam Republic personally called you guys out for being too toxic
Winning doesn’t fcking matter, none of the dancers really cared about the ranking...the main objective was to make it to the final 4 so you can get more screentime
This show was rigged from ep 1 till the end. Can’t believe they dared to call this a dance competition whereas while we already knew who is gonna win when they announce the voting system. RIDICULOUS, the most popular Koreans team will win and that’s exactly what happened not even surprising. At least if a Korean team has to be the winner MQ was the best. But bada’s popularity won over talent what ashame for the dance industry.
Right?!? Cause of that darn popularity vote MQ couldn't even have a chance at that trophy, and since only Koreans can vote it was quite obvious that JR wouldn't win too...
This is the most delusional and ridiculous opinion I've come across, i cannot😂😂😂😂 I dunno why some people has no common sense is beyond me. This show is pure entertainment that was catered to center stage DANCERS, PROFESSIONAL DANCERS. It was catered for the public that Dancers are also artists not just backup to singers and idols. And to think this are dancers that was popular DUE TO THEIR TALENT and some people couldn't wrap that around their heads. lol they were not IDOLS MEGHAAAD. Casual viewers have thoroughly enjoyed the show, only those rabid delulu fans/bandwagoners have been barking since the finale. lol.
@@jeankate9721 the real delulu fans are the users who post about bada ONLY while their usernames are “bada’s wife” “bada’s secret lover” which is why saying they’re popular due to their talent is not a good argument. Bada was the main star of the group. They were boring compared to other groups, every performance was the same. They put masks on and everyone’s acting like it’s some unique, out of this world, amazing performance...
Also don’t act like it had nothing to do with the fact that JR were foreigners. If they said they were a global show, they should’ve let global fans vote. Not just Korea. MNET is also known for rigging results.
I agreed. Because in the final MQ really nail it.
@@jeankate9721 no it's not!!!!! IT DANCE COMPETITION. READY IT
🇿🇦🇺🇲🇳🇿🇦🇺✨✨💙 jam republic is my favorite!! International talent babbbbbbbby let goooo love those girls. Love from Cali 🇺🇲🇨🇺🇲🇽
if i'm not mistaken, bebe's costume is an homage to rihanna's earlier days when she was popular with s&m or sometime before umbrella.
7:12 Where did this come from? 😂😂😂
Mannequeen for the drama the gag and the shenanigans 😂👑
Mannequeen ATE so hard like
You hurt me with the ribbon reveal comment lmaoooo, love your videos though
How can a group win fair and square if the show was rigged to make them win?
Mannequeen won that finale, hands down!!!! So amazing to see our Kingz Eoddae in the audience. ❤
Beyoncé being known for hats will forever live in my head rent free. 😊
Im not gonna lie but in so glad that jr got Beyonce, cause i just know there other groups would have done who run the world, and I’m just do SICK AND TIRED OF IT 😭😭
I see pained stans in the comments don't worry you'll since the show is so rigged you can make your own and give the trophy to whoever you like.
I didn't expect Mannequeen to be in 4th, 3rd at least or 2nd but not 4th. I was really hoping that JR would take the win but we all knew that was never gonna happen because...Korea. Bebe for 1st Mmmmmmm I don't think 1st was where they should've been placed. Overall, the ladies did an amazing job with their perfomances.
finally, i been waiting! now that it's over I think I can confirm you have spelled mannequeen differently in like every description box haha. I'm happy for you that your crush Bada won. I was the one person rooting for 1Million lol. What show are you going to cover next??
Street girl fighter cause Bada's on it😂
1million?? you never cease to surprise me Mr Blue Elephant lmaooo and you been calling me out for my mannequeen spelling. I think you might be the only one who looks at the description box. I stan a loyal queen
@@thekwatchlist 🤣🤣🤣🤣 called!!!
The Just Dance ahh censoring took me out too 💀✋ (gonna miss these vids tysm ❤️)
Korean pizza looks scrumptious lol fym. US pizzas are boring as hell
I'm finally at that point of getting entertained at how dimwitted the Korean audience actually is, not knowing major players like The Royal Family being more or less present in this season.
Thank you on that pizza. That was gross!
IT'S A COOKING SHOW TO ME! you can't change that!
Your final thoughts 👌👌👌👌👌
Bads is so popular. I think her friends in kpop world helped her even more.
MANNEQUEEN was robbed lol
You have no idea what your talking about mannequin was better then bada and the girls and they placed last so you need to stop trying to cause drama between fans
Congrats BadaandFriends
Not the paper mache masks won u over when the 1st 2 mins of jam republics intro ate and the fact they had a third of the time that the other crews has
I’m sorry if I sound at all like I’m attacking you but I’m 1000% sure the corset removal was just as a move to represent power and feminism, because if you listen to the lyrics of that section they were dancing to, it makes sense (and also what other comments have also mentioned abt it now that I read through them). It’s pretty obvious the cloth was for outfit/choreography reasons 😭😭
Redeeming…….