Near Mid Air Collision with a plane | ADS-B in Action | Beechcraft Sierra
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.พ. 2021
- This near-miss occurred on our trip back from L35 (Big Bear City Airport) flying in our Beechcraft Sierra B24R. Luckily I spotted this Mooney airplane as part of my instrument scan about 1 minute before we met in the air. The blue circle is me. The red circle is the Mooney converging on us from below.
How ForeFlight Works
I use an app called ForeFlight, which is an Electronic Flight Bag software popularly used by many pilots. This app can receive ADS-B traffic information broadcast received via an ADS-B In device like Statux.
How Stratux Works | How ADS-B Works
The Statux receives GPS info as well as position info (ads-b traffic) directly from other aircrafts as well as ground based towers, which is then overlaid on navigation charts pilots uses to fly from point to point.
I would love to hear if you pilots out there have had similar incidents where ATC didn't notify you of incoming traffic that was "danger close".
Side note: I love our SoCal Approach Controllers - I think they are super friendly, professional and very on top of the game! Thank you guys for keeping us GA pilots safe in the sky!
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Student pilot here. This is what freaks me out the most. My intro flight was actually with a guy who only had ADS-B out.
Hi Neal, regarding adsb in, I think everyone should have a Stratus or Stratux device to provide that extra situational awareness. However, you shouldn't be overly reliant on it as you eyes should be the primary tool for avoidance. These devices are relatively cheap now, especially if you get one used. I will share a vid later about the time we had adsb-in and still had a close call. I was only able to avoid because I saw him from the corner of my eyes.
About CFIs, you have to go with someone not only knowledgeable but you're also comfortable with.
Good luck with your PPL training. Feel free to reach out if you have more questions.
@@PaperPilotJack I appreciate your response. It might be unfair of me to characterize that CFI this way, because that was literally my first flight and I just lack the context for handling some of these risks. Anyway, collision risk seems to be the #1 thing that makes me nervous.
@@banjo2019 If you think about it. it's less likely to have a mid air than getting into a car accident. I'm certain there's research around this. In addition, between having good radio skills, atc flight floowing, knowledge of the airspace, your trusty eyes and adsb-traffic, you have a lot of tools to build good Situational Awareness (SA) around you. If you have passengers, put them to work and have them call out traffic, like a game (that's CRM or Crew Resource Management)
And this is why east is odd level and west is Even level. It was clearly avoided but this is exactly why they do it. I think with the title of the video people were expecting some mid air near miss.
Altidute separation is useful during cruise, but during transition periods, conflicts like this happens all the time. Flying in certain situation feels just like swimming in the open ocean, you don't get to see all the danger lurking beneath you. All we can do as pilots is just take all the information available to us and give ourselves the best chance at conflict avoidance as possible.
Personally I don't care to ever close enough to see the eyes of conflicting pilot. While that might be good for TH-cam viewership, it also likely means I'm probably doing something wrong and have put my family in danger.
I appreciate your comment.
Just received my Sentry in the mail and I’m thankful for it however there’s plenty of nordo traffic out there so you still need to be looking out the window 😉.
Awesome! It will be a great investment guaranteed! One thing I've realized after my PPL and flying around for a few years is just how difficult it is to spot traffic. Granted I don't have 20/20 but those traffic is just a spec even when they're just 2 miles away.
You used the technology wisely and on time. Glad you're safe and sound.
Thank you. Yes ADSB is indeed a very useful tool. It's quite astonishing to see how much traffic that are around you that you don't "see" out the window!
Glad it ended safely!
Thank you! Congrats on your YT success!
I can't imagine flying without ADS-B in, like some kind of animal. Especially out here in SoCal.
I completely agree Travis it's a MUST HAVE. A few years back, when I was training out of Cable, on a local flight out to El Monte, I nearly had a head on with a Bonanza that was Climbing out of El Monte (I assumed). I west bound hugging the mountain, and he was climbing from below my altitude, when I saw him, we must have been less than 100 feet part. I dove and banked right instinctively - scared the crap out of Ron, my instructor.
I have a video of this, however the camera was pointed too low, so you don't get to see the Bonanza. I'll try to post it. It will be interesting for some to watch I'm sure.
@@PaperPilotJack scary stuff. No one ever bothers to talk on the practice area frequency around there either. I get too close for comfort with other aircraft all the time.
@@traviswcarney I know right? Gotta keep that SA with all the tools available to you.
ADS-B forever. (in & out )
Glad you are safe and thanks for uploading this. We’re you IFR?
Thank you GG. I was in VFR conditions, although flying into the sun... it might have been just the same. I'm currently studying for my Instrument rating. I'll going to upload the entire trip back from L35 to KSNA later.
@@PaperPilotJack nice. Oh okay, Gotcha. I was going to say why the controller didn’t speak up first especially with flight following. Thank god for the stratus lol
@Grumman Greaser SoCal approach controllers are usually very on top of it. Instances like this are outliers. But I'm pretty sure the Mooney wasn't on Flight Following as I didn't hear him on freq. I would love to hear from his perspective if I ever get a chance.