Imagine the backlash Arsenal would receive of they went to Anfield with a full team, against a liverpool team without Salah, Van Dijk and Alexander Arnold and got the exact same result liverpool did on Sunday. The media and pundits would be saying they dont have the mentality to go and beat their rivals at their weakest and take advantage of that. Because it's Liverpool though, it's seen as a good result and Arsenal shouldn't be making excuses. Weird.
Mate our gaffer has been here 3 months and hasn't got any of his own signings yet. We aren't meant to challenge for the league you're supposed too. I'll take our point thanks.
@eazyollie9370 First of all, why aren't Liverpool supposed to be challenging for the title? They were right up there for the majority of last season and the team hasn't been changed. Yes the manager is different but they don't play in a completely new style. Slot hasn't come in to rebuild he's just continuing what had already been built. Secondly, I think Liverpool should be very happy with a point and it's a good result for them, but if the roles were reversed I think arsenal would get a lot of criticism rather than praise, which Liverpool have received. Not trying to say anything bad about any teams I just feel like the narrative after the game would have been more of an 'Arsenal bottle' if the roles were reversed.
@alfieosborne8612 I'm just going off the narrative that Liverpool would have this substantial drop off after Klopp left. I for one didn't think that would happen but that's the nonsense lots of people were saying. Whether Arsenal are being treated differently by the media I don't know, maybe they're a bit more lenient with other sides. I guess they do talk more shit about United and Arsenal than Liverpool and City. Arsenal just need that big trophy to shut them up.
@@eazyollie9370 Yeah I agree with you. Maybe because Liverpool won everything under Klopp they're a bit more respected by everyone than arsenal. When it comes to arsenal I think maybe people don't like to see that they're now challenging, because no one other than Liverpool has been able to get anywhere close to city. A few years ago arsenal were being laughed at by everyone and now that people can't really do that anymore, they take every opportunity to do so, even if it wasn't even arsenal's fault. It was a good game to watch though and hopefully it won't be city that win this year.
I'm done hearing the incompetance argument. They aren't incompetent or it would improve. It is literally impossible to get this much heat and continuously get worse. It is intentional. It's so bad I don't even want to watch ARSENAL anymore. Not just the premier league, ARSENAL. I do still watch of course, but I don't want to and wish I didn't have such a lifelong love and affiliation and could just switch off from it, because it ruins my mood and weekend. I don't even watch highlights of the league anymore. It's such a disgrace what they're doing to our game and I refuse to consume the premier league by any paid means (sky sports, TNT etc) because I refuse to pay for this product.
Great discussion. After yesterday I have to question if an attack with Havertz and Martinelli is a good enough to win the EPL or UCL. Arsenal need a big attacking signing to take the load of Saka.
Yeah I've been thinking this for some time now but I think with a forward like Havertz, you need to have 2 very high output wingers. We have Saka who's incredible but I don't know if we can rely on Martinelli and Havertz to win us big games like this especially when the rest of the team is down, like Saka does on a consistent basis.
@@VARMOT123 First of all calm down bro 🤣 Look at how you're reacting because I gave your boy slight criticism. I'm just presenting a solution that many other Arsenal fans have expressed. We don't create chances but Saka has the highest chance creation in the league. Even Martinelli who I don't think is currently good enough for us, created around 2-3 decent chances, one of them Havertz volleyed over the cross bar. Havertz works more as a false 9 so logically any team with a false 9 has high output wingers, Liverpool for example. Firmino wasn't a serial goal scorer and dropped into midfield a lot like Havertz, but he had Mane and Salah, 2 high output wingers.
During the game on American television they showed slow-motion replays of that Konate tackle. And the commentators kept saying "there's nothing to see here"; "that looks like a perfect tackle". Insanity.
The VAR check on Merino’s goal was like they were trying so hard to rule it out without drawing lines first. The abject reluctance already shows there’s an agenda. Alex you’re still young, Arsenal has been on the short end the last 25 years I’ve been a fan. It just gets more pronounced when we are on a title charge.
We've had a tougher start than City and Liverpool, we deserve more points than we have but are still in the right place. We had similar points at this stage last season but felt much more worried about performances. Stay strong, got to trust our boys. (Webb out)
I completely agree with George . Can’t sleep Properly of thinking how many players are we going to loose next summer and how are we going to address all holes that will be opened up.
For the last many games Martinelli has not physically been where he used to be. He won't make full field sprints with the ball, hugely harming our ability to transition. He will not take players on, he pulls up short to make back passes literally in the middle of promising breaks. this is all out in the open all you have to do is watch the games. this has nothing to do with Konate
Contextualise this with how much defensive work martinelli is doing. You can’t expect him to be doing LB shifts and then have the energy to burst past players late in the game
@@inwardvoyage4209 Treble winners Foden & Grealish have no problem doing LB/RB shifts and then have the energy to burst past players late in the game because that's what treble winners at big clubs with proper managers do
@ Thank you for the good laugh this morning! Grealish bursting past players and foden doing defensive shifts 😂 and if they did have fresh legs it’s because they’re city’s bench warmers
I’m gonna provide some context as it stands Arsenal can still end the season with 105 points. I don’t want us to but we can afford to loose 1 more game and draw another and still have 100 points come the end of the season. We are ok, 3 games with 10 men is where we dropped points. And we only dropped points vs Liverpool because the ref disallowed our goal and then didn’t give us a corner at the end which we have a high scoring chance from. We . . Are . . Ok
Am I right in remembering that the liverpool assistant came out in the second half with a yellow card after confronting the refs, pressumably at half time. After that, it seemed like a lot of calls for fouls we got in the first half, werent given anymore. Not a conspiracy, if I am correct it is incompetence by the refs and arguably good dark arts from the liverpool camp.
Saka is our Salah, Havertz is our Firmino, but Martinelli is NOT our Mane sadly. In such an attack, you need high output wingers and Martinelli just isn't one yet. If we had another Saka on the left, we would win PL and CL easily... I'm looking at the likes of Leao 0.0
Lost me at leao, dude is just flashy talk about a aesthetic merchant. Barely has any output and has zero grit and high energy. Martinelli has a lot of that. And I can almost guarantee he wouldn’t bother helping on defense neither
Musiala or Nico Williams for me - Musiala would be unreal as he could play L8 at times therefore don't have to completely give up on Martinelli HOWEVER I think Nico would be ideal for our system
Merino is also a tight space dribbler and passer. Partey was incredible. Havertz worked really hard and deserved some free kicks the ref ignored. Kiwior was dragged out of position was salahs goal. Martineli needs to find away of putting Konate under pressure. Did you notice that Timber was our deepest defender cos of Salah. Jesus needs to do more or we cash out next season. Sterling has not lived up to the reason for his loan move.
31 minutes in finished talking about the ref but no mention of delaying restart, the sky talk said it wasn’t delaying the restart because we weren’t ready to take the free kick. How if the ball is kicked away from the place it needs to be taken, it is not delaying the restart because the ball is not in position it needs to be !
Can you get the statistics on this season for how many players have been yellow carded for delaying a restart this season please and how many should of been !
… The fanbase are absolutely warped and refuse to hold Edu to account every window, is Arsenals biggest problem. There will be tears this season and it’s deserved 👍
100% when we actually look at the signing under edu. Its like like 60% have worked out and 40 flops of the highest degree. We have gotten several Chelsea rejects and spent money on players like sambi and viera that have done literally nothing for the club. Its jarring. You can at least argue that arteta is capable of sensational football but to be several years in a job. With the thinnest bench we've had in years, in more comps. No back up striker.no backup attacking midfielder. Its jarring
Havent watched the pod yet but wondering if there will be a time where all 3 of you or maybe even 4 (inc bhavz) are on one main pod. Or is it just going to be a rotation and 2 people per pod
The third goal still won't have stood cos of havertz 60- 40 challenge on the Liverpool defender. From an Arsenal fan though. Miles just isn't a defender. I admire his versatility and positivity but the instinct to be on your man to prevent danger, isn't there..its happened twice or thrice now
Re the Konate penalty shout, in the first replay angle you can clealy see he gets the ball with this knee, it's the second angle which makes it look like there's no contact. Yes, I think there were some really poor decisions going against us, but it's driving me a little crazy seeing lots of fans claim it's a stonewall pen. I guess a lot of folks either haven't seen the first angle or are just operating in bad faith.
Sometimes there will be poor ref decisions that go against us. Sometimes they will do us favours. We can’t let these events determine the results. If you are just winning 1-0, you will drop points if a decision goes against you. If you are winning 2-0 or 3-0, it doesn’t matter if the ref has made a poor decision. We are way too defensive minded.
At what point in the replay did TAA get the ball? Also its not the 90s anymore "I got the ball" doesn't mean you can take 90%+ of the man with it. Think back on all the penalties we've conceded and switch the players around and tell me you think the ref or VAR doesn't give that to Liverpool
There is always gonna be narratives against Arsenal mainly from utd,chelsea and spurs fans whom are jealous how good Arsenal is even when their team is so depleted. When utd chelsea had many injuries they were sitting at 12th 14th positions(spurs sitting there with a fully fit squad)😅 and they see Arsenal don’t dropp off a lot even with that depleted team is just rattle them. 😂
I think people (including you guys - love the work by the way) need to wake up regarding referees. The richest league in the most popular sport in the world. Many other corruption scandals in different leagues regarding match fixing. We know one team's owners (Man City) have paid currently working referees (Michael Oliver and team) for work abroad, far above market value. That's what we KNOW. Imagine what we don't know. It's a fix.
I'm very excited about next summer, feel like we had a break even 2024 to go big in 2025: Nico Williams, Ait-Nouri & Mbuemo would be high on my transfer list + Angel Gomes available on a free, would be a great pick up to replace Jorginho but Partey should be offered a couple more years as well Sell all of Jesus, Vieira, Zinchenko, Nelson, Tierney, Lokonga, Marquinhos - we've outgrown them all
George goes on about how Liverpool didn't have many shots, it was just control of possession. How many chances did Arsenal create with 11 man Goerge in the first half? Liverpool had more shots on target statistically, bring the numbers out. would love to know how many arsenal lenses you put on before analysing that game?
We played well for 20 minutes in the first half..first goal came out of the blue. Second was setpiece. I dont get it where did we blow them out of water. How many saves did Liverpool gk made.? Where are the technical ballers, why cant we string together foir passes when other team is coming at us.
@@sigfigronath Our finishing was bad?😂 Which chance we have missed would have scored by Haaland? The problem is that we can’t create any good chances in terms of both quality and quantity. We can’t break down or open up the opponent’s defence. Because our players are not skillful/technical/silky/tekky/skill moves capable/tiki taka capable enough.
@@thierryhenry674 I didnt say finishing, dont missplace my words :) I said shooting. We should atleast hit the target and make the goalkeeper work. Regarding your second point, how many chances did liverpool and city have agaisnt us ? If they have better players then why couldnt they tiki taka thier way into our goal. A team with a makeshift backline, and down to 10 men respectively ? In big games, tactics cancel each other. And teams dont want to concede. I do agree in smaller game we still lack that quality, but thats down to the injuries.
@@sigfigronath You can shoot from the corner flag a 1000 times. Zero will result into a goal no matter how good your shooting is. Does that mean your shooting is poor? No. You might have the best shooting ability in the world, but you would never be able to score from there. Look at prime Man City (2017-2020). Their players were so skillful and technical, which they can create so many high quality chances, so high in quality that even a 3 years old Stevie Wonder can score. If the chance is poor, then you can’t score even if your shooting is good. If the chance is good, you can score even if your shooting is poor.
@@thierryhenry674 ofcourse we thrive to be like prime man city, and guess who was the assistant coach during that time. My argument is, if we can shoot better, we can convert half chances into goals. We dont rely on creating 2-3 big chances per game to score goals. If you watch the West ham game vs Utd, thats a good example. Utd should have scored 5 goals. Or our game vs Westham for that matter 0-2. We shoulve easily won that game.
Where is this myth about TAA being the best right back in the Prem and the best passer of a ball ? Come on guys you lot are better than that. Aren't you football men ?
@TheCannonPod well sorry I don't agree with the 95% stat. We saw him in midfield for England and couldn't pass to save his life. And if the criterion is whipping balls over the top, dead ball situation, the standard to which we hold English footballers are very very low. When we look into Europe and South America do you think he is rated, TAA reminds me of Henderson. Bang average football player but labelled world class because he played for Liverpool.
@TheCannonPod sorry but that's rubbish. Best passers of the ball in Premier league history. That statement is ridiculous and coming from you is a shock. You would have to quantify that statement with a video and please long balls over the top don't count .
It wasnt a disallowed goal. The ref literally blew before it went into the net and most of the Liverpool players stopped. The ref made a weird call but it wasn't a disallowed goal, it was more of a disallowed goal scoring opportunity. Stop using that as an excuse
The fact that he let play carry on and blew when arsenal were about to score is what people are angry about. He had let play carry on so he should have waited until that phase of play was over then he could have blew his whistle and let var check. None of the liverpool players stopped so we know it was a goal.
@@Thefamousrfc70 I completely agree that the ref should have let it play out. It still doesnt make it a disallowed goal. It was a disallowed goal scoring opportunity, so we can't say whether it was going in or not. And the only Liverpool player who didn't stop chasing it was Trent. In fact, Konate was about to go for the ball but he stopped once he heard the whistle.
Like alex said, when we were winning titles we battered you 4-0, 5-0 while you clinge on to 2-2 draws behind refs and injuries excuses. Difference in levels.
Title* and yeah u battered us when we were bad? You guys are still a top team, the game was close, we were better than you with a lot of key players out and we are just a better team than you. And have been for over 2 years now. Trents leaving, Salah, VVD and Alison arent getting any younger. Your era is ending and ours is just beginning. Very uncomfortable conversaetions if we win the league this year and match Klopps entire premier league legacy.
Imagine the backlash Arsenal would receive of they went to Anfield with a full team, against a liverpool team without Salah, Van Dijk and Alexander Arnold and got the exact same result liverpool did on Sunday. The media and pundits would be saying they dont have the mentality to go and beat their rivals at their weakest and take advantage of that. Because it's Liverpool though, it's seen as a good result and Arsenal shouldn't be making excuses. Weird.
Mate our gaffer has been here 3 months and hasn't got any of his own signings yet. We aren't meant to challenge for the league you're supposed too. I'll take our point thanks.
@eazyollie9370 First of all, why aren't Liverpool supposed to be challenging for the title? They were right up there for the majority of last season and the team hasn't been changed. Yes the manager is different but they don't play in a completely new style. Slot hasn't come in to rebuild he's just continuing what had already been built.
Secondly, I think Liverpool should be very happy with a point and it's a good result for them, but if the roles were reversed I think arsenal would get a lot of criticism rather than praise, which Liverpool have received. Not trying to say anything bad about any teams I just feel like the narrative after the game would have been more of an 'Arsenal bottle' if the roles were reversed.
@alfieosborne8612 I'm just going off the narrative that Liverpool would have this substantial drop off after Klopp left. I for one didn't think that would happen but that's the nonsense lots of people were saying. Whether Arsenal are being treated differently by the media I don't know, maybe they're a bit more lenient with other sides. I guess they do talk more shit about United and Arsenal than Liverpool and City. Arsenal just need that big trophy to shut them up.
@@eazyollie9370 Yeah I agree with you. Maybe because Liverpool won everything under Klopp they're a bit more respected by everyone than arsenal. When it comes to arsenal I think maybe people don't like to see that they're now challenging, because no one other than Liverpool has been able to get anywhere close to city. A few years ago arsenal were being laughed at by everyone and now that people can't really do that anymore, they take every opportunity to do so, even if it wasn't even arsenal's fault. It was a good game to watch though and hopefully it won't be city that win this year.
Imagine Arsenal being a big UCL winning club like Liverpool?
Nope, neither can i...
I'm done hearing the incompetance argument. They aren't incompetent or it would improve. It is literally impossible to get this much heat and continuously get worse. It is intentional.
It's so bad I don't even want to watch ARSENAL anymore. Not just the premier league, ARSENAL.
I do still watch of course, but I don't want to and wish I didn't have such a lifelong love and affiliation and could just switch off from it, because it ruins my mood and weekend. I don't even watch highlights of the league anymore. It's such a disgrace what they're doing to our game and I refuse to consume the premier league by any paid means (sky sports, TNT etc) because I refuse to pay for this product.
Great discussion. After yesterday I have to question if an attack with Havertz and Martinelli is a good enough to win the EPL or UCL. Arsenal need a big attacking signing to take the load of Saka.
Yeah I've been thinking this for some time now but I think with a forward like Havertz, you need to have 2 very high output wingers. We have Saka who's incredible but I don't know if we can rely on Martinelli and Havertz to win us big games like this especially when the rest of the team is down, like Saka does on a consistent basis.
You are an idiot . Havertz had zero service and gets barely any chances and does all the dirty work
@@victorsomosu123are you stupid ?. Havertz had zero service and did all the dirty work .
@@victorsomosu123high output ?. We barely create any chances for havertz
@@VARMOT123 First of all calm down bro 🤣 Look at how you're reacting because I gave your boy slight criticism. I'm just presenting a solution that many other Arsenal fans have expressed. We don't create chances but Saka has the highest chance creation in the league. Even Martinelli who I don't think is currently good enough for us, created around 2-3 decent chances, one of them Havertz volleyed over the cross bar. Havertz works more as a false 9 so logically any team with a false 9 has high output wingers, Liverpool for example. Firmino wasn't a serial goal scorer and dropped into midfield a lot like Havertz, but he had Mane and Salah, 2 high output wingers.
During the game on American television they showed slow-motion replays of that Konate tackle. And the commentators kept saying "there's nothing to see here"; "that looks like a perfect tackle". Insanity.
The VAR check on Merino’s goal was like they were trying so hard to rule it out without drawing lines first. The abject reluctance already shows there’s an agenda. Alex you’re still young, Arsenal has been on the short end the last 25 years I’ve been a fan. It just gets more pronounced when we are on a title charge.
We've had a tougher start than City and Liverpool, we deserve more points than we have but are still in the right place. We had similar points at this stage last season but felt much more worried about performances. Stay strong, got to trust our boys.
(Webb out)
I completely agree with George . Can’t sleep
Properly of thinking how many players are we going to loose next summer and how are we going to address all holes that will be opened up.
For the last many games Martinelli has not physically been where he used to be. He won't make full field sprints with the ball, hugely harming our ability to transition. He will not take players on, he pulls up short to make back passes literally in the middle of promising breaks. this is all out in the open all you have to do is watch the games. this has nothing to do with Konate
The fact is Arteta has ruined Martinelli and slowly Trossard too
Contextualise this with how much defensive work martinelli is doing. You can’t expect him to be doing LB shifts and then have the energy to burst past players late in the game
@@inwardvoyage4209 Not many people realise this, same with trossard.
@@inwardvoyage4209 Treble winners Foden & Grealish have no problem doing LB/RB shifts and then have the energy to burst past players late in the game because that's what treble winners at big clubs with proper managers do
@ Thank you for the good laugh this morning! Grealish bursting past players and foden doing defensive shifts 😂 and if they did have fresh legs it’s because they’re city’s bench warmers
I’m gonna provide some context as it stands Arsenal can still end the season with 105 points.
I don’t want us to but we can afford to loose 1 more game and draw another and still have 100 points come the end of the season.
We are ok, 3 games with 10 men is where we dropped points. And we only dropped points vs Liverpool because the ref disallowed our goal and then didn’t give us a corner at the end which we have a high scoring chance from.
We . . Are . . Ok
Am I right in remembering that the liverpool assistant came out in the second half with a yellow card after confronting the refs, pressumably at half time. After that, it seemed like a lot of calls for fouls we got in the first half, werent given anymore.
Not a conspiracy, if I am correct it is incompetence by the refs and arguably good dark arts from the liverpool camp.
Saka is our Salah, Havertz is our Firmino, but Martinelli is NOT our Mane sadly. In such an attack, you need high output wingers and Martinelli just isn't one yet. If we had another Saka on the left, we would win PL and CL easily... I'm looking at the likes of Leao 0.0
Lost me at leao, dude is just flashy talk about a aesthetic merchant. Barely has any output and has zero grit and high energy. Martinelli has a lot of that. And I can almost guarantee he wouldn’t bother helping on defense neither
Leao isn’t the right choice for an efficient LW
Leao isn’t the right choice. Nowhere near as efficient as Saka
I’d rather rodrygo over Leao.
Musiala or Nico Williams for me - Musiala would be unreal as he could play L8 at times therefore don't have to completely give up on Martinelli HOWEVER I think Nico would be ideal for our system
Merino is also a tight space dribbler and passer. Partey was incredible. Havertz worked really hard and deserved some free kicks the ref ignored. Kiwior was dragged out of position was salahs goal. Martineli needs to find away of putting Konate under pressure. Did you notice that Timber was our deepest defender cos of Salah. Jesus needs to do more or we cash out next season. Sterling has not lived up to the reason for his loan move.
I feel so amazed how George reads my mind! 😮
31 minutes in finished talking about the ref but no mention of delaying restart, the sky talk said it wasn’t delaying the restart because we weren’t ready to take the free kick. How if the ball is kicked away from the place it needs to be taken, it is not delaying the restart because the ball is not in position it needs to be !
Hey Alex and George, please share your review / reco with the coaching staff of AFC please. I mean it.
Can you get the statistics on this season for how many players have been yellow carded for delaying a restart this season please and how many should of been !
… The fanbase are absolutely warped and refuse to hold Edu to account every window, is Arsenals biggest problem. There will be tears this season and it’s deserved 👍
100% when we actually look at the signing under edu. Its like like 60% have worked out and 40 flops of the highest degree. We have gotten several Chelsea rejects and spent money on players like sambi and viera that have done literally nothing for the club. Its jarring. You can at least argue that arteta is capable of sensational football but to be several years in a job. With the thinnest bench we've had in years, in more comps. No back up striker.no backup attacking midfielder. Its jarring
Havent watched the pod yet but wondering if there will be a time where all 3 of you or maybe even 4 (inc bhavz) are on one main pod. Or is it just going to be a rotation and 2 people per pod
Welcome back tooooo... Don't worry, we're actually quite good at football
Love that opening stat 😂
The third goal still won't have stood cos of havertz 60- 40 challenge on the Liverpool defender. From an Arsenal fan though. Miles just isn't a defender. I admire his versatility and positivity but the instinct to be on your man to prevent danger, isn't there..its happened twice or thrice now
Re the Konate penalty shout, in the first replay angle you can clealy see he gets the ball with this knee, it's the second angle which makes it look like there's no contact. Yes, I think there were some really poor decisions going against us, but it's driving me a little crazy seeing lots of fans claim it's a stonewall pen. I guess a lot of folks either haven't seen the first angle or are just operating in bad faith.
Even if you touch the ball, if you wipe out a player who has the ball upending him with a slide tackle in the box, it's a foul, therefore a pen
I guess a lot of folks aren't experienced professional referees like yourself
Sometimes there will be poor ref decisions that go against us. Sometimes they will do us favours. We can’t let these events determine the results.
If you are just winning 1-0, you will drop points if a decision goes against you. If you are winning 2-0 or 3-0, it doesn’t matter if the ref has made a poor decision.
We are way too defensive minded.
The assumption is it would have been given against us.
At what point in the replay did TAA get the ball? Also its not the 90s anymore "I got the ball" doesn't mean you can take 90%+ of the man with it. Think back on all the penalties we've conceded and switch the players around and tell me you think the ref or VAR doesn't give that to Liverpool
9 minutes ago - Here we go!!!
That was Bukayo not fully fit and with a small break. Imagine this guy if he had a small break to rest and was fully fit.
Imagine how good he'll be when he's Lemmie Yamal and Jude Bellinghams age?
there's nothing that will convince me otherwise ... we would have won all the games if refs were honest ... we should be on max points
You are. Where you are 3rd
Is bhavs not a part of this podcast anymore?
No, they announced it when they joined TDK live with the cannon
@@tjones8402when was that ?
About a month ago I think
Watching the game, i could see why people aren't really talking up their title credentials...They weren't nowt special.
arsenal lack firepower, our forwards apart from saka are not good enough
There is always gonna be narratives against Arsenal mainly from utd,chelsea and spurs fans whom are jealous how good Arsenal is even when their team is so depleted. When utd chelsea had many injuries they were sitting at 12th 14th positions(spurs sitting there with a fully fit squad)😅 and they see Arsenal don’t dropp off a lot even with that depleted team is just rattle them. 😂
We need that Dubai break again for liftoff
I think people (including you guys - love the work by the way) need to wake up regarding referees. The richest league in the most popular sport in the world. Many other corruption scandals in different leagues regarding match fixing. We know one team's owners (Man City) have paid currently working referees (Michael Oliver and team) for work abroad, far above market value. That's what we KNOW. Imagine what we don't know. It's a fix.
38:27 Not helping your case here George
😂
I'm very excited about next summer, feel like we had a break even 2024 to go big in 2025: Nico Williams, Ait-Nouri & Mbuemo would be high on my transfer list + Angel Gomes available on a free, would be a great pick up to replace Jorginho but Partey should be offered a couple more years as well
Sell all of Jesus, Vieira, Zinchenko, Nelson, Tierney, Lokonga, Marquinhos - we've outgrown them all
George goes on about how Liverpool didn't have many shots, it was just control of possession. How many chances did Arsenal create with 11 man Goerge in the first half?
Liverpool had more shots on target statistically, bring the numbers out. would love to know how many arsenal lenses you put on before analysing that game?
We had better chances
@@ayanroy08 we won the game
What is an 11 man Goerge?
Arsenal’s BIGGEST Problem is…their manager signing injury prone Man City rejects thinking that's gonna close the gap on them...
We played well for 20 minutes in the first half..first goal came out of the blue. Second was setpiece. I dont get it where did we blow them out of water. How many saves did Liverpool gk made.?
Where are the technical ballers, why cant we string together foir passes when other team is coming at us.
We were very good considering our injuries and players playing out of position. Our shooting was bad but we created few chances. Second half was poor
@@sigfigronath
Our finishing was bad?😂
Which chance we have missed would have scored by Haaland?
The problem is that we can’t create any good chances in terms of both quality and quantity. We can’t break down or open up the opponent’s defence. Because our players are not skillful/technical/silky/tekky/skill moves capable/tiki taka capable enough.
@@thierryhenry674 I didnt say finishing, dont missplace my words :) I said shooting. We should atleast hit the target and make the goalkeeper work.
Regarding your second point, how many chances did liverpool and city have agaisnt us ? If they have better players then why couldnt they tiki taka thier way into our goal.
A team with a makeshift backline, and down to 10 men respectively ?
In big games, tactics cancel each other. And teams dont want to concede.
I do agree in smaller game we still lack that quality, but thats down to the injuries.
@@sigfigronath
You can shoot from the corner flag a 1000 times. Zero will result into a goal no matter how good your shooting is.
Does that mean your shooting is poor? No. You might have the best shooting ability in the world, but you would never be able to score from there.
Look at prime Man City (2017-2020). Their players were so skillful and technical, which they can create so many high quality chances, so high in quality that even a 3 years old Stevie Wonder can score.
If the chance is poor, then you can’t score even if your shooting is good. If the chance is good, you can score even if your shooting is poor.
@@thierryhenry674 ofcourse we thrive to be like prime man city, and guess who was the assistant coach during that time.
My argument is, if we can shoot better, we can convert half chances into goals. We dont rely on creating 2-3 big chances per game to score goals. If you watch the West ham game vs Utd, thats a good example. Utd should have scored 5 goals.
Or our game vs Westham for that matter 0-2. We shoulve easily won that game.
What happened to Bhavs
Where is this myth about TAA being the best right back in the Prem and the best passer of a ball ? Come on guys you lot are better than that. Aren't you football men ?
He’s one of the greatest passers of the ball we’ve ever seen in the Premier League. 95% of people agree with that I’d say. - A
@TheCannonPod well sorry I don't agree with the 95% stat. We saw him in midfield for England and couldn't pass to save his life. And if the criterion is whipping balls over the top, dead ball situation, the standard to which we hold English footballers are very very low. When we look into Europe and South America do you think he is rated, TAA reminds me of Henderson. Bang average football player but labelled world class because he played for Liverpool.
@@Victor-wp5jlwhen he joins Madrid we shall see
@TheCannonPod sorry but that's rubbish. Best passers of the ball in Premier league history. That statement is ridiculous and coming from you is a shock. You would have to quantify that statement with a video and please long balls over the top don't count .
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#outthepgmol
Man City fans are absolutely delighted about the refs because every 50/50 decision goes their way. So they love the refs.
Arsenal fans are happy winning nothing because for the last 4/4 years that's what they enjoy watching
50 minutes to say "we lacked balance" is a bit too much for me. 3rd goal goes in without ref's whistle and none of this bs is ever heard by us.
first :D
It wasnt a disallowed goal. The ref literally blew before it went into the net and most of the Liverpool players stopped. The ref made a weird call but it wasn't a disallowed goal, it was more of a disallowed goal scoring opportunity. Stop using that as an excuse
How many EPL games have you refereed before?
Roughly?
@@GrantFerris-ly6cj None, why?
The fact that he let play carry on and blew when arsenal were about to score is what people are angry about. He had let play carry on so he should have waited until that phase of play was over then he could have blew his whistle and let var check. None of the liverpool players stopped so we know it was a goal.
@@Thefamousrfc70 I completely agree that the ref should have let it play out. It still doesnt make it a disallowed goal. It was a disallowed goal scoring opportunity, so we can't say whether it was going in or not. And the only Liverpool player who didn't stop chasing it was Trent. In fact, Konate was about to go for the ball but he stopped once he heard the whistle.
konate did win the ball though
Like alex said, when we were winning titles we battered you 4-0, 5-0 while you clinge on to 2-2 draws behind refs and injuries excuses.
Difference in levels.
Title* and yeah u battered us when we were bad? You guys are still a top team, the game was close, we were better than you with a lot of key players out and we are just a better team than you. And have been for over 2 years now. Trents leaving, Salah, VVD and Alison arent getting any younger. Your era is ending and ours is just beginning. Very uncomfortable conversaetions if we win the league this year and match Klopps entire premier league legacy.
Cry a bit and let go
When* we win the league sorry
@@ayanroy08 cry a bit, it helps to get the salt out
Battering teams is much more achievable with a full squad and fair refs.