Yes yes yes, I have the newest version and it's incredibly good. I use both this and their synthetic spadroon all the time. Btw, nice channel update with the new background and intro!
Couldn't agree more 👏. Haven't broken one yet. We also use mostly steel, but they get used almost every practice for warmup and games. What people mostly say against them is steel vs syntetic bounce. But it has not been a problem for us.
I totally agree with the review. Also I can say proudly that I have seen only one of these broken in all years we've used them (from an extremely brutish cut to my st.George) :D
I had the steel version of the 1803, and it quickly becomes my favorite sword. However, I don't think they did heat treatment in the guard so I have to keep hammering it back to shape after heavy sparring sessions against heavy hitters.
They don't heat treat the guards, and thats a good thing. Most makers don't, because it makes the guards prone to breaks, whereas in mild they just bend and can be reshaped.
I can't disagree :) for our new saber division at Via Bruxellensis (Belgium) we went with Nick Thomas advices in older videos and bought a serie of these. I'm really happy with the quality and handling. We also ordered the metal versions but we are still waiting to get these ones. Can't wait !
I've had three BF trainers. An arming sword, a sharp simulator longsword and a smallsword. The first two were excellent but the weld job on the smallsword was abysmal. Still handled well.
Hi Nick. Are your thoughts on the video primarily based on the standard blade version of this design? What do you see as the major pluses & minuses of the standard blade compared to the edge shaped blade and which is the better option for a new inexperienced training group? Cheers
I've not personally used the edged shape for this model as they were released just after I recieved my last one. I do like the edge shape in their other products and my experience of them has been slightly more edge damage (though not severe by any means), and a little less bounce. Apparently the edge profile for the sabre is a little heavier in the blade also. I wouldn't say it's a big deal either way, just get whichever you fancy.
Both are good. Edged looks better and feels a bit more realistic on edge to edge contact, but they do take a little more edge wear due to the narrower edges. Personally I don't find that extra wear at all an issue and so would opt for the edge.
The edge shape is fraction heavier and takes a little more edge damage, with the advantage of looking better and feeling a little more realistic when meeting edge on edge. Personally the edge profile would "edge" it out if you like, but if you value edge durability more, get the standard. Either way it is a minor difference and so I haven't upgraded my personal ones to that shape, both are good.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing Intended use is solo drills, light/slow controled sparring (min. to no protection) original aim was for 1864 gymnasium sabre (bowl boi) but it seems you have well presented good reasons to reconsider ... Perfect points about: - length, as all my sharp blade cutters are shorter than usual cavalry length - balance and feel - honesty of parry encouraged by the design - storage and transport - usability in different systems It seems I will have this infantry sabre and klewang trainers purchased probably with edge shape as to maximize the feel as sparring will be less available than solo. Thank you for your work! Inspiring and very informative. +][+
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Yes yes yes, I have the newest version and it's incredibly good. I use both this and their synthetic spadroon all the time.
Btw, nice channel update with the new background and intro!
Finally, somebody who gives "fits in the bag" the proper weight. The same probably applied to "fits on the belt", when swords were carried.
so true. few years back I switched to P shape hilt exactly for better portability - and very good point to compare it to "fits on the belt"
Can confirm, I introduced them to our club. And we have had great success.
I have one and I love it when I need to use a synthetic at practice. It's gotten alot of use and it's still going strong after several years.
Very informative! Plz do more of these reviews
Couldn't agree more 👏. Haven't broken one yet. We also use mostly steel, but they get used almost every practice for warmup and games. What people mostly say against them is steel vs syntetic bounce. But it has not been a problem for us.
I totally agree with the review. Also I can say proudly that I have seen only one of these broken in all years we've used them (from an extremely brutish cut to my st.George) :D
Had one for years. They are very good bits of kit. Might get another in the New Year 😀
Outstanding. Nick, you're one helluva salesman!
I had the steel version of the 1803, and it quickly becomes my favorite sword. However, I don't think they did heat treatment in the guard so I have to keep hammering it back to shape after heavy sparring sessions against heavy hitters.
They don't heat treat the guards, and thats a good thing. Most makers don't, because it makes the guards prone to breaks, whereas in mild they just bend and can be reshaped.
I can't disagree :) for our new saber division at Via Bruxellensis (Belgium) we went with Nick Thomas advices in older videos and bought a serie of these. I'm really happy with the quality and handling. We also ordered the metal versions but we are still waiting to get these ones. Can't wait !
Definitely sounds like a good break-in piece.
I supose it depends on what you want to train, but I’d definelly recommend to start with synthetics.
I've had three BF trainers. An arming sword, a sharp simulator longsword and a smallsword. The first two were excellent but the weld job on the smallsword was abysmal. Still handled well.
Hi Nick. Are your thoughts on the video primarily based on the standard blade version of this design? What do you see as the major pluses & minuses of the standard blade compared to the edge shaped blade and which is the better option for a new inexperienced training group?
Cheers
I've not personally used the edged shape for this model as they were released just after I recieved my last one. I do like the edge shape in their other products and my experience of them has been slightly more edge damage (though not severe by any means), and a little less bounce. Apparently the edge profile for the sabre is a little heavier in the blade also. I wouldn't say it's a big deal either way, just get whichever you fancy.
Much appreciated!
I have been looking at these all day, do you recommend edged version or standard?
Both are good. Edged looks better and feels a bit more realistic on edge to edge contact, but they do take a little more edge wear due to the narrower edges. Personally I don't find that extra wear at all an issue and so would opt for the edge.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing awesome i’ll get edge cut, thank you for the reply.
Question which one to purchase regular blade shape OR "edge" shape of blade?
The edge shape is fraction heavier and takes a little more edge damage, with the advantage of looking better and feeling a little more realistic when meeting edge on edge. Personally the edge profile would "edge" it out if you like, but if you value edge durability more, get the standard. Either way it is a minor difference and so I haven't upgraded my personal ones to that shape, both are good.
Thank you very much!
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing Intended use is solo drills, light/slow controled sparring (min. to no protection) original aim was for 1864 gymnasium sabre (bowl boi) but it seems you have well presented good reasons to reconsider ...
Perfect points about:
- length, as all my sharp blade cutters are shorter than usual cavalry length
- balance and feel
- honesty of parry encouraged by the design
- storage and transport
- usability in different systems
It seems I will have this infantry sabre and klewang trainers purchased probably with edge shape as to maximize the feel as sparring will be less available than solo.
Thank you for your work!
Inspiring and very informative.
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Knight Shop Synthetic Basket Hilt? I just looked at Knight Shop for that product and I only see red dragon for synthetic basket hilts?
That's the same one, Knightshop, Red Dragon and HEMA shop are all the same company.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing Thank you!
Do they ship to US?
Do you have a similar review planned for the Steel version?
Absolutely, as well as the 1803 steel variant.
interesting.
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