Ive saved so many of your videos...massive help for a DIYer like me. You've helped me build a concrete block wall, steps, lay hardcore, sand and how to level, do string lines, do falls. Genuinely couldn't have done what i have without you... :-)
Best thing about this video for me is your use of the word "dollop" my wife has been relentlessly telling me it's not a word for years! Ps excellent video too of course :)
I’ve just finished putting in my porcelain paving patio and it looks absolutely fantastic. Watched loads of your videos and it made it so much easier. From the sub base depth to the slurry primer, all the information helped massively! Thanks a lot. Now I just need to figure out the grouting!
Thanks Mike I glad you find the videos informational as for the grouting that truly is the most difficult part because if you use the stuff I use And mess it up then your screwed. Depends how confident you feel with the slurry grout. 👍🏴
watching this as planning to tile a two level concrete slab at the end of the garden. Really impressed with the outcome of this. looks so good, especially on that corner over the old stone wall, the steps and the overhang of the surface tiles. Superb job, and thanks for the video
I’ve been caught up binge watching so many of your awesome videos 😭🙌🏽 Your work is incredible and consistent. This patio looked very locked in! 💪🏽 I am familiar with tiling bathrooms and mainly indoors, and this fascinates me so much. Love those spin-doctor spacer clips!
I'm doing my first (and last?!) DIY porcelain patio and have found your videos very helpful and instructive. Thank you! That said, I have an issue which I don't think you've covered - and searches on TH-cam indicate that few other content providers have posted any really comprehensive videos on it either. The issue is . . . how to tackle porcelain steps. Do you use the same combination of mortar and primer as you do for laying slabs? Do you lay the treads first and then 'fit' the risers in afterwards - or do you always do the risers first? How much 'overhang' (if any) do you use use for the treads over the risers? Do you cut a 'drip lip' channel on the underside of the treads? How do you grout/point between the vertical risers without the mixture draining out into a big puddle on the new treads? How would you tackle an inside corner step? If you have a cut edge showing (e.g. on an inside corner step), how do you clean it up to make it look like the factory edge of the other treads? Questions, questions, questions! A bespoke video detailing everything one needs to know about how to lay porcelain steps is badly needed and would do very well IMO - as there really isn't anything out there (that I've come across) that adequately covers the topic! Thanks again and season's greetings. 🙂
Actually I do have a video on this but the title didn’t show it so I’ve just changed it 👍🏴 th-cam.com/video/VX0-Yk3jP80/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qkleaLiW5ziGtZ7k
@@tidybrickslandscaping - Thanks for the reply and the link - much appreciated. It addresses some of my questions - but not all of them by any means. The next time you do a job with a set of all porcelain steps (i.e. risers AND threads) - and decide to shoot a vid' which goes into greater 'step by step' depth (pun intended!) - I think that would make a really valuable addition to your excellent channel. Sadly, I can't wait for that as I'll be cracking on with my job as soon as the wind and rain lets up! Thanks again and best wishes for 2024.
When you keep the correct fall level, so for example for 3 m long patio, 30mm fall, can you place tiles right up agains the house wall? I am in a new build, with traditional fundation. The landscaping done by the dev, we have gravel up against the wall (about 5cm wide) and then pavers. Thank you! Great job explaining!
Actually it’s a better idea flush with the house so the water runs away asap when you leave a gap the water will rest against the foundations keep it damp rather than flush. Try that it I’d say 👍🏴
I remember watching a full length version of this video. Another brilliant job! As always, the devil is in the detail Could you do a detailed video of cutting in the tiles for the Manhole covers maybe in real time. There are a lot of cuts usually and can be a mornings work. Another issue I find is that you are restricted to what the client wants and sometimes you know that you could make a better end result if they were willing to spend a bit more. For instance, the steps and retaining wall could be brought up to date with a modern look instead of having to cut your tiles to fit the old retaining wall. But you did an excellent job with the existing finishes that you had to work with. Always a pleasure to watch.
Thanks for watching Keith and commenting much appreciated as always, next time I’m cutting round manhole I’ll try remember to film it otherwise I did this a while back 👍🏴 th-cam.com/video/csszA8YZoe0/w-d-xo.html
Well done man ave just layed 21sqm of porcelain and just used building sand as a base and layed them done was scared to use mortar incase I messed up and now I wish I had just watched a video lol
It looks amazing ! My question is this: Does it go below freezing in your area ? I am considering doing a covered porch that would not get wet but it can go into the teens ferinheight here. Is it possible to do it ?
Really impressive complete transformation. Question, I have laid & compacted subase last year in preparation for slabbing this year but over this time with kids playing in garden etc some of the stones on surface have now become lose would you compact again or should the ground be ok
People say your not supposed too but as long as the existing structure is safe and stable and hasn’t sunk then yeh why not just making it stronger again 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Firstly thanks for the video. Do I need to worry about drainage and so install subbase? I have existing structurally sound concrete on a slope so thinking that porcelain and mortar is non porous enough?
Looking back, that last square tile at 9:00 Would you have cut that one tile just to take that line from the edging, back to the steps. Or was the design idea so when you are at the top step of the steps you can step forwards or right?
@@tidybrickslandscaping Yeah that line following the retaining wall, I was asking why didn't you carry that line across the one mostly square tile in the frame. Its like theres a 8inch edging strip all the way around indicating the edge of the patio, but not for the top 2 steps there.
I only ever use Marshalls exterior grout and mapei but just the once. It’s really hard to use in the summer because it dries so so quick. Brick acid patio cleaner works great on porcelain but never on stone products 👍🏴
@@stevendouglas3860 absolutely fine tried and tested but after all that’s one of porcelains good points of the material it’s made of nothing sinks into it it’s like glass. Only the jointing compound is at risk but the slurry grout I use don’t touch it 👍🏴 I’ve used products like lithrofin on it and it takes ages to clean proper scrubbing several times and always not perfect but the acid burns any cement residue off like a dream quick fizz then gone wipe off
Learned a lot from your video. I have concrete slab considering putting porcelain tile on. Slab is 10cm thick and in good condition but can't add any additional height. Is it feasible/advisable to grind down slab about 1.5 cm to make room for tile and thinset?
Wow, nice work! It looks so beautiful. I love the modern and clean look of the floor. My back yard has the patio slap (cement ). It is old and has some cracks . I would like to have the thick porcelain tiles to tile on top the existing patio slap. Is it ok?
@@gustavomarin6535 not sure but sharp sand is more gritty with small shells mixed in. Basically slightly larger grains and more angular in shape unlike bricklaying sand which is more circular grains 👍🏴
Glad it’s working for you 👍 moasure sent me a telescopic stick to put it in for me to review so that’s in the pipeline at some point to buy. Uploading that video tomorrow reviewing it 👍🏴
If the floor is slightly uneven, is it okay if you compensate with a bit of extra mortar? Obviously this will make the tile fitting more complicated, but would that be an issue?
I much prefer sandstone than porcelain it all looks to modern bringing the inside out and when I tell the customer the price of porcelain they are shocked at times but like you said they are harder to keep clean. I've been using the levelling system for about 3 years they are a must have and also a couple of grabos are a GOD send on the big tiles. Nevertheless nice job👍👍👍
Find and build a good relationship with reputable suppliers... You'd be suprised how small the difference in price is, especially for the finish thats achievable!! I've managed £5m2 more than calibrated natural....
Hi scott if I have a similar project like this but all my existing concrete is cracked, sagging and receeding shoulf i dig out and start fresh with hardcore, cement then porcelain tile? Amazing work btw you have inspired me to do my Garden
I think you should dig out and hard-core it especially if the concrete has cracked and sagging that basically means there is no real base underneath which is key 👍🏴
looking to do this here in the northeast of the USA how week dose this hold up to freeze=thaw cycle i wold use type s cement with 1/4 part portland added and for a bonding agent i would use a portland "paint"
Well the tiles have a anti slip rating for the uk but you guys up there have much colder winters so hard for me to say really. But that’s what salt is for I guess stop it freezing over 👍🏴
thank you for the info yes the salt use is to lower the freezing point yet as you say our cold winters still freeze the saltwater but this does help answer muy questions that many not hold up to our weather cycle @@tidybrickslandscaping thank you for the help
When laying a porcelain patio against your house wall if the wall is not straight what do you do you put gravel there 4 inches out then start your flagging
Your videos are definitely the most informative online. I am in the process of laying some porcelain tiles in my back garden, they will be layed on a concrete base so how thick should the mortar be to stick them down?
Around 30 mm would do just make sure the concrete surface is really clean. I’d be tempted to mix some cement with water and brush it in before laying the cement bed for the tile 👍🤜
@@tidybrickslandscapingThank you so much for responding!! Sorry if I seem THICK, but, are you saying the pattern can be 10mm and the actual tile itself should be 1/4 "; 1/2" 5/16? I've been looking for tiles and passing by ones that say thickness of 8-10mm thinking it must be a typo or else we are talking veneer?
@@janetkuhl-urbach639 not sure the measurements in inches but yes thinner are internal and thicker are external as outside tiles have more to deal with like weather conditions etc and nothing to do with pattern 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Thank you, thank you! That is the clarification I've been searching for. Your videos are inspirational-a real service done posting them! Stay safe!!
The curve/nasty lookin cuts.... Overlay tiles at least 30mm, mark up and slowly go back an forth with a 4/9" grinder in situe... Looks mint when done right!
I had to follow the wall underneath and had the customer giving me the go ahead with his interpretation of how he wanted it. I worked perfect I believe
I've got a customer who wants me to lay 20mm thick porcelain floor tiles around her existing concrete patio/paths. She has a couple of existing rodding eye plates for her drains in her paths which I'll need to leave access to. Can you tell me where you got your access covers from. Can they accomodate 20mm tiles? regards Gary
I currently have tiles in my porch they are all very old and start cracking. I am located in Canada and the porch has a roof but it is outdoors. I would like to ask If it is better to remove the tiles and replace for tiles or I should try to apply concrete on it.Any advise would be appreciated
Can this method be used in Florida ? I been told that I have to pour concrete first ! Any help will be appreciated.Also another issue is the joints and how to tile over them without risk of tiles cracking . Also what is the exact mix you are using ?
It seems to be in the states and Australia and several other places people use concrete for the patio but here in the UK we just use compacted stone 4 inches. And the cement ratio is 4 sharp sand and 1 cement. Hope that helps For that job in Particular we had to raise the patio as there were no issues with the patio we just cemented down on top of the old ones with a wet mix 👍🏴
@@Entrepreneurusa When you think about it it’s only for foot traffic walking over it you’re not driving a car on it it’s perfectly fine and a lot easier.. If it works here I’m sure it will work there 👍🏴
@@Entrepreneurusa things are different there for sure I used to work in Napa Ca years back as a bricklayer using a lot of that Stuko stone quite liked it 👍🏴
Very informative Tidybricks - thank you. Forgive my ignorance - but what's a 'tingle' - assuming it's a landscaping term and not slang for a £20 pound note?! Also, in your reply to thailand tripper in the comments section you say ". . . and that grabo is my new best friend". What's a 'grabo'? Cheers. ;-)
A tingle is something to keep the line place for your tile levels and the grabo is basically a suction handle for picking slabs tiles blocks plasterboard glass etc etc etc 👍🏴 thanks for watching
Really enjoying your videos very informative and helpful for us DIYers, I have a patio to lay very soon only problem is there is a concrete path running along the side of the house. I don’t want to raise the height on the path too much, I’m using sandstone slabs what is the minimum thickness of sand cement mix I should use, and what mix (would it be 4:1 or 6:1) and would it be best to use SikaBond SBR+ on the existing path and the slab? Thanks.
Thanks Pete for watching the video this I’m glad you find them informative as for the question asked about ratio that would be 4 to 1 and minimum thickness for cement could be 10mm for the possible concrete area you’re asking about ? if you clean off the concrete surface then prime the top with a cement slurry and use a wet cement mix prime the tile and it should all glue itself together as one . Use Sbr and cement make a gluey paste that you can work with and that should work a treat Hope this helps 👍🏴
Great video it explains a lot and is very helpful, looking through the comments I tried to see if anyone had asked about laying porcelain on expansive clay soil. Like the kind of stuff you can roll out in your hand and it stays together. I am doing an area 12 x 3.2m and plan on using 800 x 800 porcelain with a channel drain at the end. I was going to put a terram t1000 geotextile underneath, then 150mm compacted depth hardcore, 50mm+ mortar bed and primed porcelain tiles on top. Does this sound like the correct process to follow in this situation? Looking through your videos I think you seem seem like the right person to ask lol. I read a couple of websites saying to use a reinforced concrete slab and then stick the tiles on top when dealing with clay soil, this would throw my budget and time scale out the window, also there are rainwater waste pipes underneath so should they ever need access a reinforced slab would make it difficult. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks. Liked and subscribed 👍
I’d say the process you have planned is a absolutely fine hardcore on top then a full cement bed that’s all you really need to do. The geo textile is one part you wouldn’t really need to do it’s only going to be another barrier and wouldn’t do much. Thanks for watching the videos 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Thank you very much for taking the time to reply. It is very helpful and saves me the worry of uncertainty of thinking am I doing the correct thing or not. Best landscaping channel on YT. Also keep up the funky dance moves to that... interesting music! Lol. It cracked me up when I was watching that video of you tiling that drystack wall and at the end I was like what is going on here now, so unexpected 🕺😂. Top man
Hi, could you please comment on why you did not actually level the substrate and used thinset after? This is a first time I've seen a technique like that. Is it something for outdoors only? How is the glue coverage when you lay it like that?
Would laying tile like this work in an extremely cold climate (Canada, minus 30 C in the winter)? I'd be worried about water intrusion and ice heaving and breaking everything. Have you got a video installing exterior tile for a cold climate where special drainage and substrate considerations are made?
As for your question I’m not 100% sure on conditions like -30 but these are a exterior tile anyway but your conditions in Canada I really couldn’t say a good answer Good question 👍🏴
The grains are different shapes sharp sand is more angular so it locks better 👍🏴 building sand the grains are more round easier for laying bricks with 👍🏴
I heard you said 4 to 1 so that means 4 cement and 1 sand and need to prime the porcelain with regular cement is good for porcelain? Sorry I asked but I read somewhere it said porcelain need thin set otherwise mortal mix won’t stick to it good.
First of all it’s 4 sharp sand 1 cement not the other way round. And here’s a video about the primer hope this helps. th-cam.com/video/3ecECF8s1go/w-d-xo.html 👍🏴
Ive saved so many of your videos...massive help for a DIYer like me. You've helped me build a concrete block wall, steps, lay hardcore, sand and how to level, do string lines, do falls. Genuinely couldn't have done what i have without you... :-)
I really enjoy reading messages like this just goes to show a little help goes along way 👍🏴
I really liked "fannying" it around.....
Best thing about this video for me is your use of the word "dollop" my wife has been relentlessly telling me it's not a word for years! Ps excellent video too of course :)
Can’t beat the word dollop especially if you want a dollop of custard on your tart 👍🏴
Sorry Mrs Mills, its definitely proper grammer 🤷♂️
It's definitely a word....
😂😂😂
Being a bricklayer past 15 years all my work is patios and drive ways now much more thinking involved never boring. Thanks for the video
There is more fun doing landscaping and laying bricks that’s for sure you can design more doing this type of stuff 👍🏴
Superb job sir, very informative, a great help as I’ve never used these type of pavers 👍
I’m glad to of helped in some way and ps these are tiles pavers are for driveways and dome need cement 👍🏴
I’ve just finished putting in my porcelain paving patio and it looks absolutely fantastic. Watched loads of your videos and it made it so much easier. From the sub base depth to the slurry primer, all the information helped massively! Thanks a lot. Now I just need to figure out the grouting!
Thanks Mike I glad you find the videos informational as for the grouting that truly is the most difficult part because if you use the stuff I use And mess it up then your screwed. Depends how confident you feel with the slurry grout. 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping yeah thats the part that i’m not too keen on. Would you recommend any normal brush in grouting?
watching this as planning to tile a two level concrete slab at the end of the garden. Really impressed with the outcome of this. looks so good, especially on that corner over the old stone wall, the steps and the overhang of the surface tiles. Superb job, and thanks for the video
Thanks Tommy glad you like the video especially the tricky corner 👍🏴
I’ve been caught up binge watching so many of your awesome videos 😭🙌🏽
Your work is incredible and consistent. This patio looked very locked in! 💪🏽
I am familiar with tiling bathrooms and mainly indoors, and this fascinates me so much. Love those spin-doctor spacer clips!
Thank you so much!! Glad you liked it 👍🏴
I'm doing my first (and last?!) DIY porcelain patio and have found your videos very helpful and instructive. Thank you! That said, I have an issue which I don't think you've covered - and searches on TH-cam indicate that few other content providers have posted any really comprehensive videos on it either. The issue is . . . how to tackle porcelain steps.
Do you use the same combination of mortar and primer as you do for laying slabs?
Do you lay the treads first and then 'fit' the risers in afterwards - or do you always do the risers first?
How much 'overhang' (if any) do you use use for the treads over the risers?
Do you cut a 'drip lip' channel on the underside of the treads?
How do you grout/point between the vertical risers without the mixture draining out into a big puddle on the new treads?
How would you tackle an inside corner step?
If you have a cut edge showing (e.g. on an inside corner step), how do you clean it up to make it look like the factory edge of the other treads?
Questions, questions, questions! A bespoke video detailing everything one needs to know about how to lay porcelain steps is badly needed and would do very well IMO - as there really isn't anything out there (that I've come across) that adequately covers the topic!
Thanks again and season's greetings. 🙂
Actually I do have a video on this but the title didn’t show it so I’ve just changed it 👍🏴
th-cam.com/video/VX0-Yk3jP80/w-d-xo.htmlsi=qkleaLiW5ziGtZ7k
@@tidybrickslandscaping - Thanks for the reply and the link - much appreciated.
It addresses some of my questions - but not all of them by any means. The next time you do a job with a set of all porcelain steps (i.e. risers AND threads) - and decide to shoot a vid' which goes into greater 'step by step' depth (pun intended!) - I think that would make a really valuable addition to your excellent channel. Sadly, I can't wait for that as I'll be cracking on with my job as soon as the wind and rain lets up!
Thanks again and best wishes for 2024.
Nice job!👍
Exactly why I'm watching great work
Thank you for that kind comment much appreciated 👍🏴
Quite different than we would do, but I love it. Great work.
Thanks tilebarlab glad you still liked it anyways 👍🏴
great job looks really good, nice size patio too.
Thanks Fergal glad you enjoyed the video mate much appreciated 👍🤜
Amazing job! Well done!!
Thank you! Cheers! 👍🏴
Looks great!
Thank you for watching glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴
Love all your videos - thank you 🙏
You are so welcome! 👍🏴
When you keep the correct fall level, so for example for 3 m long patio, 30mm fall, can you place tiles right up agains the house wall? I am in a new build, with traditional fundation. The landscaping done by the dev, we have gravel up against the wall (about 5cm wide) and then pavers. Thank you! Great job explaining!
Actually it’s a better idea flush with the house so the water runs away asap when you leave a gap the water will rest against the foundations keep it damp rather than flush. Try that it I’d say 👍🏴
@tidybrickslandscaping thank you so much! It's been valuable advice!!!
Beautiful work!
Thanks for that glad you enjoyed the project 👍🏴
Excellent video
Thanks tile merchant glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴
Perfection! 👌
Cheers dave 👍🏴
Looks great 👍
Thank you! Cheers! 👍🏴
I remember watching a full length version of this video. Another brilliant job! As always, the devil is in the detail
Could you do a detailed video of cutting in the tiles for the Manhole covers maybe in real time. There are a lot of cuts usually and can be a mornings work. Another issue I find is that you are restricted to what the client wants and sometimes you know that you could make a better end result if they were willing to spend a bit more. For instance, the steps and retaining wall could be brought up to date with a modern look instead of having to cut your tiles to fit the old retaining wall. But you did an excellent job with the existing finishes that you had to work with. Always a pleasure to watch.
Thanks for watching Keith and commenting much appreciated as always, next time I’m cutting round manhole I’ll try remember to film it otherwise I did this a while back 👍🏴
th-cam.com/video/csszA8YZoe0/w-d-xo.html
Top job 👌
Thanks Red glad you enjoy the video mate 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping tidy work mate.
Well done man ave just layed 21sqm of porcelain and just used building sand as a base and layed them done was scared to use mortar incase I messed up and now I wish I had just watched a video lol
That’s a shame but easy to lift I guess 👍🏴
It looks amazing ! My question is this: Does it go below freezing in your area ? I am considering doing a covered porch that would not get wet but it can go into the teens ferinheight here. Is it possible to do it ?
We freeze a few times a year and it’s totally fine no issues . Check porcelain in your area for slip ratings 👍🏴
nice work
Thanks mate glad you enjoyed the video much appreciated 👍🏴
Really impressive complete transformation. Question, I have laid & compacted subase last year in preparation for slabbing this year but over this time with kids playing in garden etc some of the stones on surface have now become lose would you compact again or should the ground be ok
The bigger stones always come loose from the top no worries there. You could always top it up with stone dust aka grano and compact back down 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Thank you very much for your reply I will follow this advice keep up the fantastic work all the best
Stuart
Wery good job 👏 👍 i like your job going to do my patio slabs as well
Good luck with it 👍🏴
Nice job
Cheers Celtic warrior glad you liked the video mate 👍🏴
Excellent
Thank you so much 😀👍🏴
Very tidy dude, lovely job 👌
Cheers Bradley glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏴
First class job ..could you show us the hammer for them tiles ? Looks like simplex they call them I think 30 mm or 40 ?
I think you’re right it was a Symplex not sure on size but it’s broken now anyway 👍🏴
Excellent 👍🏻
Thanks Lee glad you enjoyed the video mate much appreciated 👍🏴
£20 note as a tingle! You must be rolling in it 🤣🤣
Great video and job 👍
Better now the notes are plastic the paper ones tore in half 😂👍🏴
I didn't know you can lay them onto existing slabs, can I also do the same onto a concrete path? Would make life alot easier
People say your not supposed too but as long as the existing structure is safe and stable and hasn’t sunk then yeh why not just making it stronger again 👍🏴
@tidybrickslandscaping okay thanks alot, saved me hours of work I was about to start taking our path out going from front to back garden tomorrow 🥴😂
@@tidybrickslandscaping Firstly thanks for the video. Do I need to worry about drainage and so install subbase? I have existing structurally sound concrete on a slope so thinking that porcelain and mortar is non porous enough?
Looking back, that last square tile at 9:00
Would you have cut that one tile just to take that line from the edging, back to the steps. Or was the design idea so when you are at the top step of the steps you can step forwards or right?
Basically I was following the line of the retaining wall as a reference, hopefully that’s what you mean 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Yeah that line following the retaining wall, I was asking why didn't you carry that line across the one mostly square tile in the frame. Its like theres a 8inch edging strip all the way around indicating the edge of the patio, but not for the top 2 steps there.
Great video guys .
I'm installing Porcelain paving..
What Grout brand have tried or can recommend ?
also ...Any tips on Cleaning porcelain paving ?
I only ever use Marshalls exterior grout and mapei but just the once.
It’s really hard to use in the summer because it dries so so quick.
Brick acid patio cleaner works great on porcelain but never on stone products 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping brick acid is that ok on porcelain ..?
@@stevendouglas3860 absolutely fine tried and tested but after all that’s one of porcelains good points of the material it’s made of nothing sinks into it it’s like glass. Only the jointing compound is at risk but the slurry grout I use don’t touch it 👍🏴
I’ve used products like lithrofin on it and it takes ages to clean proper scrubbing several times and always not perfect but the acid burns any cement residue off like a dream quick fizz then gone wipe off
Work of art that. Cuts are brilliant
Thanks J Mc glad you enjoyed the video mate lovely patio 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping what makes of grouts you used on them? Hard to find a decent black grout!
Learned a lot from your video. I have concrete slab considering putting porcelain tile on. Slab is 10cm thick and in good condition but can't add any additional height. Is it feasible/advisable to grind down slab about 1.5 cm to make room for tile and thinset?
Ohhh that sucks best get a good dust mask 😷👍🏴
Love the video bro quick one tho how thick does the "dollop" needs to be ?
Thanks bro
Best answer to that is easiest to work with 👍🏴
Wow, nice work! It looks so beautiful. I love the modern and clean look of the floor. My back yard has the patio slap (cement ). It is old and has some cracks . I would like to have the thick porcelain tiles to tile on top the existing patio slap. Is it ok?
Yes it’s fine as long as the base under the original patio is stable so basically it becomes stronger again and Thor watching 👍🏴
Do you tile the risers first or the treads on the steps? Also how much overhang on the treads? Thanks
Normally do the treads first and the overhang should be too much maybe around 20mm don’t want anyone tripping up it 👍🏴
Wait what mixture did you use to stick them down?
4/1 sharp sand cement mix hope that helps 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping is sharp send the same as Mason sand ?
@@gustavomarin6535 not sure but sharp sand is more gritty with small shells mixed in. Basically slightly larger grains and more angular in shape unlike bricklaying sand which is more circular grains 👍🏴
I reckon you’ve done that before 🤔 bloody good job
2nd time lol 👍🏴
Amazing work you did there mate👍 its nice😂😉
Thanks mushroom glad you enjoyed the video much appreciated 👍🏴
Contour at 9min in vid looks superb
Thanks Lewis and yes that was a tough corner to figure out 👍🏴
Excellent patio looks fantastic, do you just use cement and primer when doing the steps vertically?
Yes every time that primer sticks anything together 👍🏴
This is so dope
Glad you appreciate it 👍🏴
You can use deck mud like that outdoors without a slab underneath, just with dirt alone and a few inches of deck mud under each tile?
Laying anything on dirt doesn’t sound that strong ?👍🏴
Nice! What kind of concrete of cement you used?
Sharp sand mix 4/1 cement hope that helps 👍🏴
Great video.. love the look of this.
Cheers lawn right glad you enjoyed the video mate thanks for watching 👍🏴
Great work amazing skills thank you. Question, can you tile like this onto an old concrete path?
Yes as long as you prime the concrete first before laying a tile 👍🏴
Hi Scott Just got my Moasure after seeing you use it. Great tool as I have a groundwork company. Cheers for the tips!
Glad it’s working for you 👍 moasure sent me a telescopic stick to put it in for me to review so that’s in the pipeline at some point to buy. Uploading that video tomorrow reviewing it 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping look forward to review. Top work. All the best 👍
How long before primer goes off
@@celticwarrior8634 the primer takes a couple of hours to set 👍🏴
For this mixture do you need a special mixer for that?
4sharp sand 1 cement mix 👍🏴
If the floor is slightly uneven, is it okay if you compensate with a bit of extra mortar? Obviously this will make the tile fitting more complicated, but would that be an issue?
Yeh not a problem go for it 👍🏴
I much prefer sandstone than porcelain it all looks to modern bringing the inside out and when I tell the customer the price of porcelain they are shocked at times but like you said they are harder to keep clean.
I've been using the levelling system for about 3 years they are a must have and also a couple of grabos are a GOD send on the big tiles.
Nevertheless nice job👍👍👍
I do like sandstone a lot especially when it gets wet completely different patio and that grabo is my new best friend 👍🏴
what size spacers are the levelling system? 2mm?
Find and build a good relationship with reputable suppliers... You'd be suprised how small the difference in price is, especially for the finish thats achievable!! I've managed £5m2 more than calibrated natural....
Did you say 4 to 1 using Portland cement? What primer did you use on the back of the tile? Looks great👍
4 sharp sand 1 cement yes and the cement primer was supplied by London stone 👍🏴
Hi, would you use the same technique for paving slabs thanks, great videos
Yes same procedure just different material 👍🏴
nice!
Thanks for the visit 👍🏴
Hi scott if I have a similar project like this but all my existing concrete is cracked, sagging and receeding shoulf i dig out and start fresh with hardcore, cement then porcelain tile?
Amazing work btw you have inspired me to do my Garden
I think you should dig out and hard-core it especially if the concrete has cracked and sagging that basically means there is no real base underneath which is key 👍🏴
looking to do this here in the northeast of the USA how week dose this hold up to freeze=thaw cycle i wold use type s cement with 1/4 part portland added and for a bonding agent i would use a portland "paint"
Well the tiles have a anti slip rating for the uk but you guys up there have much colder winters so hard for me to say really.
But that’s what salt is for I guess stop it freezing over 👍🏴
thank you for the info yes the salt use is to lower the freezing point yet as you say our cold winters still freeze the saltwater but this does help answer muy questions that many not hold up to our weather cycle @@tidybrickslandscaping thank you for the help
When laying a porcelain patio against your house wall if the wall is not straight what do you do you put gravel there 4 inches out then start your flagging
Sounds like the right way to go 👍🏴
Looks like you’ve done a nice job here well done 👍 I’m really not sure about the tiling outside in this country with the amount of wet weather we have
Thank you for watching the video much appreciated and the stone tiles I put down there have been sealed since 👍🏴
Show us how set up string lines
2 pins and pull the line really tight is the best I can say right now 👍🏴
Did you adhere the porcelain slab riser to brick/Concrete, or was this actually the riser itself buried and then haunching?
Cracking job buddy 👍
Same process to the riser prime the wall prime the tile little bit of cement in between bish bosh 👍🏴
How do you cut the large tiles ? Did you use a bull nose for trim or did you cut the trim from full tiles it so did you bevel the edges.
I don’t think I showed those tiles on the video ? Anyways they were bespoke made with the 5mm pencil edge I just cut to size 👍🏴
Your videos are definitely the most informative online. I am in the process of laying some porcelain tiles in my back garden, they will be layed on a concrete base so how thick should the mortar be to stick them down?
Around 30 mm would do just make sure the concrete surface is really clean. I’d be tempted to mix some cement with water and brush it in before laying the cement bed for the tile 👍🤜
@@tidybrickslandscaping Thanks for the reply much appreciated. Been watching your videos for months and finally at the stage to give it a go!
@@johnmitchell9622 All the best with it John if you get stuck at any point let me know 👍🏴 thanks for watching
My concrete patio is has a big cracked that sunk a bit. Could I install some kind of tile over it?
What do you use to fix your struggling to the wall/house?
I used a slurry cement primer 👍🏴
Hi.
Have you used a 3mm or 5mm gap. Thanks.
5mm with porcelain and 10mm with stone never used 3mm 👍🏴
Hi mate, Is there a full video installation?
Always enjoy 👍🏴 th-cam.com/video/PmpfOrxWvjk/w-d-xo.html
What did you use to cover over the old slabs before you tiled?
Stone dust and cement then rake it in slightly wet then whacked hard as nails 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping thanks. What's the ratio?
Do you need a membrane for a porcelain patio?
Also what grout to?
No membrane needed for a patio as the cement seals everything up as for grout there’s a lot on the market some easy some not 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping
You ever used mapei or Bal for porcelain?
@@bharetbhardwaj808 mapei I’ve used once or twice lots of hands and knees work rather than stand up application types eg flowpoint 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping thanks what brand would you recommend for a light grey grout? Can’t find many
Some job that. Nice
Cheers Neal,glad you liked it 👍🏴
What is the thinest a porcelain tile can be to use in an application such as you've shown here?
Let’s just say 10mm are internal only everything else is external 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscapingThank you so much for responding!! Sorry if I seem THICK, but, are you saying the pattern can be 10mm and the actual tile itself should be 1/4 "; 1/2" 5/16? I've been looking for tiles and passing by ones that say thickness of 8-10mm thinking it must be a typo or else we are talking veneer?
@@janetkuhl-urbach639 not sure the measurements in inches but yes thinner are internal and thicker are external as outside tiles have more to deal with like weather conditions etc and nothing to do with pattern 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Thank you, thank you! That is the clarification I've been searching for. Your videos are inspirational-a real service done posting them! Stay safe!!
@@janetkuhl-urbach639 thanks for watching and I’m here to help 👍🏴
Nice job I, doing my own and the tiles I like are for outdoors nut only 16mm and not 20 like normal would u say that be ok
Never heard of 16mm but if they say outdoors then go for it 👍🏴
I haven’t used primer should I have done this?
The primer is a very important part of laving tiles it helps to glue them to the cement.
Don’t worry otherwise gravity still applies 👍🏴
Very smart. I’ve got one to do soon.
Good luck I’m here to help 👍🏴
Great video, thanks. How do you get the correct fall/level on the string line if starting from grass/excavating?
I would always start from dpc height on the house 👍🏴
The curve/nasty lookin cuts.... Overlay tiles at least 30mm, mark up and slowly go back an forth with a 4/9" grinder in situe... Looks mint when done right!
I had to follow the wall underneath and had the customer giving me the go ahead with his interpretation of how he wanted it.
I worked perfect I believe
Would you recommend the same process in the countries where it's freezing in the winter?
Difficult to say on that one as when it’s frozen it would be too slippery. Winters over here are quite mild 👍🏴
I was thinking if that mortar bed is a good idea. Is this going to hold for years when it's freezing? I just want to avoid making a concrete slab.
@@patrikkadraba3702 concrete would just crack anyways unless you reenforced it. So how cold we talking anyways
I've got a customer who wants me to lay 20mm thick porcelain floor tiles around her existing concrete patio/paths. She has a couple of existing rodding eye plates for her drains in her paths which I'll need to leave access to. Can you tell me where you got your access covers from. Can they accomodate 20mm tiles? regards Gary
Here’s where I got the recessed manhole covers from
ebpbuilding.com/
I had a rodding eye to cut around on this project too 👍🏴
th-cam.com/video/lPnS59UHcMQ/w-d-xo.html
I currently have tiles in my porch they are all very old and start cracking. I am located in Canada and the porch has a roof but it is outdoors. I would like to ask If it is better to remove the tiles and replace for tiles or I should try to apply concrete on it.Any advise would be appreciated
You could possibly just tile over it depends on how bad the crack is. Tiling over is a quicker fix as it’s only foot traffic👍🏴
What was it you layed over existing tiles was it stone dust?
Yeh stone dust with some cement dust mixed in and whacked 👍🏴 the base under the tiles was good still
what is the lowest temperature that still permits you to lay your tile down
Must be 3 degrees and rising you can put Hessian over the patio over night also hope that helps 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping yup, might need this for this winter season. Research helps a ton.
Can this method be used in Florida ? I been told that I have to pour concrete first ! Any help will be appreciated.Also another issue is the joints and how to tile over them without risk of tiles cracking .
Also what is the exact mix you are using ?
It seems to be in the states and Australia and several other places people use concrete for the patio but here in the UK we just use compacted stone 4 inches. And the cement ratio is 4 sharp sand and 1 cement.
Hope that helps
For that job in Particular we had to raise the patio as there were no issues with the patio we just cemented down on top of the old ones with a wet mix 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Thank you for the reply , I think I am gonna do the same and forget about concrete base it’s too much . Thanks
@@Entrepreneurusa When you think about it it’s only for foot traffic walking over it you’re not driving a car on it it’s perfectly fine and a lot easier..
If it works here I’m sure it will work there 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscapingYes, it makes total sense , they just like to rob you here lol ,
@@Entrepreneurusa things are different there for sure I used to work in Napa Ca years back as a bricklayer using a lot of that Stuko stone quite liked it 👍🏴
Cuts near stairs👍
Very tricky those cuts me and the customer works out the way to keep his wife the boss lady happy 👍🏴
nice 1
Thanks for watching again 👍🏴
What are the screw down catches for?
There called vite clips they stop them from moving following day just kick em off 👍🏴
Can you lay them on existing concrete?
Yeh no problem can actually be better just make sure to clean it first and prime the concrete with slurry primer 👍🏴
Very informative Tidybricks - thank you.
Forgive my ignorance - but what's a 'tingle' - assuming it's a landscaping term and not slang for a £20 pound note?! Also, in your reply to thailand tripper in the comments section you say ". . . and that grabo is my new best friend". What's a 'grabo'?
Cheers. ;-)
A tingle is something to keep the line place for your tile levels and the grabo is basically a suction handle for picking slabs tiles blocks plasterboard glass etc etc etc 👍🏴 thanks for watching
Really enjoying your videos very informative and helpful for us DIYers, I have a patio to lay very soon only problem is there is a concrete path running along the side of the house. I don’t want to raise the height on the path too much, I’m using sandstone slabs what is the minimum thickness of sand cement mix I should use, and what mix (would it be 4:1 or 6:1) and would it be best to use SikaBond SBR+ on the existing path and the slab? Thanks.
Thanks Pete for watching the video this I’m glad you find them informative as for the question asked about ratio that would be 4 to 1 and minimum thickness for cement could be 10mm for the possible concrete area you’re asking about ? if you clean off the concrete surface then prime the top with a cement slurry and use a wet cement mix prime the tile and it should all glue itself together as one .
Use Sbr and cement make a gluey paste that you can work with and that should work a treat
Hope this helps 👍🏴
Is that absolutely lethal if it freezes at night?
Not really it’s all got a anti slip rating otherwise they’d never sell it so yeh it’s fine 👍🏴
What do U use to cut porcelain mate stihl saw ok?
As long as you have a porcelain blade that type of saw is perfect I know many people choose it 👍🏴
Great video, what do you use to get mortar stains of the porcelain tiles?
Try these guys out it’s what I use. 👍🏴
www.lithofin.com/en/
Can you go over the old patio??
If the previous patio is in good order yes why not it’s going to make it stronger after all.
Also depends on DPC height really we were lucky 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping
Because I want to do my as well so better to ask to specialists👍👍
Are these slippery in the rain? Thinking of doing the same design surrounding our pool
All porcelain tiles have a anti slip rating it’s fine 👍🏴
Great video it explains a lot and is very helpful, looking through the comments I tried to see if anyone had asked about laying porcelain on expansive clay soil. Like the kind of stuff you can roll out in your hand and it stays together. I am doing an area 12 x 3.2m and plan on using 800 x 800 porcelain with a channel drain at the end. I was going to put a terram t1000 geotextile underneath, then 150mm compacted depth hardcore, 50mm+ mortar bed and primed porcelain tiles on top. Does this sound like the correct process to follow in this situation? Looking through your videos I think you seem seem like the right person to ask lol. I read a couple of websites saying to use a reinforced concrete slab and then stick the tiles on top when dealing with clay soil, this would throw my budget and time scale out the window, also there are rainwater waste pipes underneath so should they ever need access a reinforced slab would make it difficult. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks. Liked and subscribed 👍
I’d say the process you have planned is a absolutely fine hardcore on top then a full cement bed that’s all you really need to do. The geo textile is one part you wouldn’t really need to do it’s only going to be another barrier and wouldn’t do much.
Thanks for watching the videos 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Thank you very much for taking the time to reply. It is very helpful and saves me the worry of uncertainty of thinking am I doing the correct thing or not. Best landscaping channel on YT. Also keep up the funky dance moves to that... interesting music! Lol. It cracked me up when I was watching that video of you tiling that drystack wall and at the end I was like what is going on here now, so unexpected 🕺😂. Top man
@@antonyawad1163 thanks Antony I’ll remember your name for my next dance off 👍🏴
@@tidybrickslandscaping Haha, look forward to it! 👌
Hi, could you please comment on why you did not actually level the substrate and used thinset after? This is a first time I've seen a technique like that. Is it something for outdoors only? How is the glue coverage when you lay it like that?
Sorry Anton I’m not sure what you mean for the main question, and the glue coverage all depends on the mix not to wet not to stiff
Would laying tile like this work in an extremely cold climate (Canada, minus 30 C in the winter)? I'd be worried about water intrusion and ice heaving and breaking everything. Have you got a video installing exterior tile for a cold climate where special drainage and substrate considerations are made?
As for your question I’m not 100% sure on conditions like -30 but these are a exterior tile anyway but your conditions in Canada I really couldn’t say a good answer
Good question 👍🏴
What's the difference between sharp sand and regular sand?
The grains are different shapes sharp sand is more angular so it locks better 👍🏴 building sand the grains are more round easier for laying bricks with 👍🏴
I heard you said 4 to 1 so that means 4 cement and 1 sand and need to prime the porcelain with regular cement is good for porcelain? Sorry I asked but I read somewhere it said porcelain need thin set otherwise mortal mix won’t stick to it good.
First of all it’s 4 sharp sand 1 cement not the other way round. And here’s a video about the primer hope this helps.
th-cam.com/video/3ecECF8s1go/w-d-xo.html
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Thank you for correct my mistake I must getting old! Thanks a lot for taking time to answer me.