I do wonder of Mr. Fantastic will reach his full potential when the entire F4 team is available. Like he might be a key piece in that specific team comp and others instead of a traditional high kill dps.
Just make the time between bounces like .5 to 1 full second faster and I think it would make a big difference. The amount of damage it can get in an area is decent and can end up being stronger and constantly hitting multiple people better than his powered up basic attacks, but the time between jumps gives time for it to get healed and makes it feel underwhelming. The bounce speed you get when inside with a low ceiling would be too much but reducing the time would let his damage come out fast enough to feel decent, though I guess it'd maybe slightly lowered the amount of value you get from the slow, I think it'd be worth it.
@@freddief113Low A? Ain't no way. There's a couple of people who are cracked at him (as there are for every hero in the game), but his impact overall is very minimal. Not great at damage, not particularly great at tanking either besides being a little hard to kill. They tried making him a hybrid but it just ended up with him being kinda mid at both. Having a bad ult on top of that is a death sentence.
@Brainfly his impact is definitely not minimal. I say this as someone who has climbed to celestial rank with him. Currently the number 1 player on console mains Mr. F. No one plays him because everyone has already decided he’s bad but it’s just another case of iron man, wolv where people just haven’t played him enough to understand his kit.
I feel like most of the time Mr Fantastic is "forcing" a support ult it's either the enemy support got needlessly scared or they were just doing the "enemy supp press Q -> I press Q" protocol and Mr Fantastic happened to ult in the middle of that.
I think the shield value is better but there's opportunity cost of not spending your charge to position closer to an enemy which has its own value that cant be measured I think its most often better to shield allies but not always.
My problem with Mr Fantastic’s Ultimate is that I feel like the slow isn’t all that cause I’ve been hit with so many of his ults and never feel like I’m slowed or is it just me ?
It may not feel like it slows because the slow is stacking (10% every time you get hit) so if you only get hit once or twice it's only a 10-20% slow and if you get hit all six times it still doesn't *feel* like a big slow because it's been ramping up over those six hits and each hit has only changed your movement speed a little. A bit of a frog in boiling water situation. So it often doesn't feel like you've been hit with a 60% slow but the enemies trying to hit you or catch up to you will notice.
A real Twitch chat comment during this video: “People are just playing safe ult comps, not ego dive comps” Bro gets destroyed playing against dive and doesn’t know how to counterplay besides insulting a team composition like it’s a human with feelings 😂
@@fullstarfield876yes and no, I think it’s safe to say it was a combined effort, Super brought a lot of eyes but TC showed just how ridiculous he can be and took over the leaderboards with him
You can hit 100 and then go shift mode. Then youll transform as soon as its done. Useful if you have your ult to get out or invis woman team up. Speaking of use that ish before you shift if you can. Huge buff to living when leaving the fridge. Lastly, switch your E and right click. Right clicking to bungee in just makes more sense.
switching e and right click sounds like ass tf? theres no world id rather put a skillshot on my e instead of my right click. put e on your shift if you dont like e for whatever reason
@ It’s far from his most important ability. It’s a skill shot, sure, but it’s very forgiving, and it’s limited to pretty close range. So is the character as a whole. It’s personal preference anyhow. I get plenty of value out of him either way
Fantastic got me to gm2 this season. I think you really lose the most games to people mentally giving up seeing a fantastic. At one point my winrate with him was 58% (55 rn :c) While he isn't the highest straight up dps he can cleave and he has safe opportunities to apply pressure in a burst with big mode. He's definitely an underdog right now but not as useless as people claim he is. Not having to aim your punches makes hitting characters like bp easier and you can shield your supports so they have time to react. OR you can shield your sniper so they can take safer trades. He's got a little bit of everything in his kit so you just have to stay flexible
I’m a storm cuck but after playing a few hours on reed and learning his loop to go big I can say he is an ult buff away from being high A tier, if they gave him quicker attacks on top of that especially in big mode then we’re talking S tier
So far from what I have seen from the video the other guy plays in a more defensive and cerebral way by using his shield more often and disabling the big form if he perceives there is some enemy who can exploit his bigger hitbox. I prefer the other guy tbh
Saying fantastic ULT might be better than Scarlett is crazy, she can EASILY get picks if timed correctly. Her ult does 750 instant damage, making her a counter to literally every healing ult.
@@Beneficence111 the anonime is correct , block doesnt affect elasticity, elasticity. in video is going down is because it degrades when you spend some time not pressing buttons
@@relaxedclaw Clocked about 20 hours but I started getting frustrated with the open queue model and the jank of third person (making it really hard to play magik properly), so I don't really play anymore.
@BigPapaMitchell Gotta tweak settings a bit more and Magik isn't an easy character to learn because of her kit. Feels stiff but you can animation cancel and stuff to make it flow more smoothly
@@ArkbladeIX well no he hasn't. Cuz as I just said he's actually just swooping in last second. Dude wasn't even the guy making wolverine work when people thought he was bad. Then out of nowhere people were talking about him.
Bro is the reason why wolv is permabanned. From being the most useless character because people dont know his potential to becoming a permaban character. Poor to him cant play his main
Wolv is permabanned because they buffed him in season 1 and now he's an actual menace to deal with. Even without target bans Logan is banned in at least 75% of the games I play in.
I do wonder of Mr. Fantastic will reach his full potential when the entire F4 team is available. Like he might be a key piece in that specific team comp and others instead of a traditional high kill dps.
Fantastic is basically just one ult buff away from being solid high B tier.
yup he is same as pre-buff squirrel,
Just make the time between bounces like .5 to 1 full second faster and I think it would make a big difference. The amount of damage it can get in an area is decent and can end up being stronger and constantly hitting multiple people better than his powered up basic attacks, but the time between jumps gives time for it to get healed and makes it feel underwhelming. The bounce speed you get when inside with a low ceiling would be too much but reducing the time would let his damage come out fast enough to feel decent, though I guess it'd maybe slightly lowered the amount of value you get from the slow, I think it'd be worth it.
I lowkey feel he’s already high b, low a tier. Buffing his ult would make him solid a, maybe even low s
@@freddief113Low A? Ain't no way. There's a couple of people who are cracked at him (as there are for every hero in the game), but his impact overall is very minimal. Not great at damage, not particularly great at tanking either besides being a little hard to kill. They tried making him a hybrid but it just ended up with him being kinda mid at both. Having a bad ult on top of that is a death sentence.
@Brainfly his impact is definitely not minimal. I say this as someone who has climbed to celestial rank with him. Currently the number 1 player on console mains Mr. F. No one plays him because everyone has already decided he’s bad but it’s just another case of iron man, wolv where people just haven’t played him enough to understand his kit.
Good, but he's no Buttcruncher17 smh
yeah I still think Buttcruncher17 is a little better.
Other youtuber spectated them. Better to do different people for content
Came here to say this.
this guys technically a Logang main but wanted to show Mr F isnt as bad as ppl say he is
After my friend's first game on Fantastic he said "wait he's just a goofy offtank" and I've never played him the same since
When I realized his punch was Rien hammer (took me like 3 games), that's when the character really clicked for me
yeah i stg he works best as a 3rd dps/2nd tank, ive been climbing like crazy with him that way
A lesson in motion sickness.
Lmao getting motion sickness from a game when you arnt even moving weak. Just dont get it simple.
Roll instead of walk and you'll get used to it
The counter to triple support is 5 dive characters with rocket throwing heal orb hail mary's from 5 miles back
I feel like most of the time Mr Fantastic is "forcing" a support ult it's either the enemy support got needlessly scared or they were just doing the "enemy supp press Q -> I press Q" protocol and Mr Fantastic happened to ult in the middle of that.
Well yeah, exactly. Either way you coaxed out a bud ult.
3:44 I use the shield sometimes while being at 100 for a big form and just turn into big form after I get done with my shield
Thats my captain🗣🗣
Mr fantastic feels much more like a tank than like a damage dealer
I think the shield value is better but there's opportunity cost of not spending your charge to position closer to an enemy which has its own value that cant be measured
I think its most often better to shield allies but not always.
My problem with Mr Fantastic’s Ultimate is that I feel like the slow isn’t all that cause I’ve been hit with so many of his ults and never feel like I’m slowed or is it just me ?
It may not feel like it slows because the slow is stacking (10% every time you get hit) so if you only get hit once or twice it's only a 10-20% slow and if you get hit all six times it still doesn't *feel* like a big slow because it's been ramping up over those six hits and each hit has only changed your movement speed a little. A bit of a frog in boiling water situation. So it often doesn't feel like you've been hit with a 60% slow but the enemies trying to hit you or catch up to you will notice.
@@TheCzeslawConmanhis ult slows😨
A real Twitch chat comment during this video:
“People are just playing safe ult comps, not ego dive comps”
Bro gets destroyed playing against dive and doesn’t know how to counterplay besides insulting a team composition like it’s a human with feelings 😂
Team captain is by far my favorite marvel streamer/player he’s tooooo cracked
Funny considering that this is TeamCaptain, the guy that is also #1 Wolverine and put Wolv on the map🫡
So good he had to make a Smurf just to play and then ends up using it to show the world how good Reed is, just like he did with Wolvie. What a champ.
Mans doing the lords work. Watch him make a Smurf for every hero taking em to celestial by March 💀
Supertf put wolverine on the map
@@fullstarfield876yes and no, I think it’s safe to say it was a combined effort, Super brought a lot of eyes but TC showed just how ridiculous he can be and took over the leaderboards with him
Yea without these sweats playing Wolverine no one would know he’s busted 😂 guaranteed he had no effect on Wolverine being auto banned
My only question is why Mr fantastic legs don't stretch?
watch it in slow mo when hes shaking his mouse, it actually seems like its really relevant sometimes
If you enjoy being light headed and nauseous, be sure to check out Team Captain’s Mr. Fantastic 🤢.
You can hit 100 and then go shift mode. Then youll transform as soon as its done. Useful if you have your ult to get out or invis woman team up. Speaking of use that ish before you shift if you can. Huge buff to living when leaving the fridge. Lastly, switch your E and right click. Right clicking to bungee in just makes more sense.
switching e and right click sounds like ass tf? theres no world id rather put a skillshot on my e instead of my right click. put e on your shift if you dont like e for whatever reason
@ It’s far from his most important ability. It’s a skill shot, sure, but it’s very forgiving, and it’s limited to pretty close range. So is the character as a whole. It’s personal preference anyhow. I get plenty of value out of him either way
camera looks like soldier mains going for airshots tbh
MY EYES
I want him to watch Peni next
I always want to watch TeamCaptain/WeeJunkie stuff, bit the bitrate is usually terrible
is that double-dash background music? 🥰
Is jumping in this game better than strafing. Doesn't it make your movements more predictable?
The hero makes me feel fantastic.
Fister Mantastic
I don’t understand why he can’t control his transform. I don’t want to use it some times and then it just stuns me
just don't finish the combo
I find it best to play like a dva. He very good at controlling angles and peeling. And then u just run them down on big mode
He def still has more to learn abt how Mr Fantastic works
Fantastic got me to gm2 this season. I think you really lose the most games to people mentally giving up seeing a fantastic. At one point my winrate with him was 58% (55 rn :c) While he isn't the highest straight up dps he can cleave and he has safe opportunities to apply pressure in a burst with big mode. He's definitely an underdog right now but not as useless as people claim he is. Not having to aim your punches makes hitting characters like bp easier and you can shield your supports so they have time to react. OR you can shield your sniper so they can take safer trades. He's got a little bit of everything in his kit so you just have to stay flexible
Now here’s the thing i feel like this guy is the better *player* but i feel like the guy flats was spectating is the better fantastic.
I’m a storm cuck but after playing a few hours on reed and learning his loop to go big I can say he is an ult buff away from being high A tier, if they gave him quicker attacks on top of that especially in big mode then we’re talking S tier
Seagull on marvel rivals is crazy
Crazy fun to watch
Mr fantasic was the rank one player on console, it's funny
3:35 UNLESS you're at 100 charge like in the video
TeamCaptain the goat
None of these vod reviews make me believe Mr fantastic is any good
theres no way the thumbnail guy is the same in the video
Specatate Quackly he puts the rest to shame
What if his ult just kept bouncing as long as you hit an enemy. Maxes out damage at I think 100 per bounce. Too much?
That's obviously too much. He would just bounce until either he dies or the whole enemy team dies.
This isn’t zbra
Wait, this isn't the same guy Flats reviewed. We need a Mr Fantastic showdown to see which youtubers no1 is legit
So far from what I have seen from the video the other guy plays in a more defensive and cerebral way by using his shield more often and disabling the big form if he perceives there is some enemy who can exploit his bigger hitbox. I prefer the other guy tbh
Flats already said in his video that it wasn't the #1 ranked Mr Fantastic but the one with the highest K/D and most MVPs
This is Team Captains second account.
This guy sucks. Spectate SuperNuttyGirl
when you don't know what you're talking about dude just watch the video
Saying fantastic ULT might be better than Scarlett is crazy, she can EASILY get picks if timed correctly. Her ult does 750 instant damage, making her a counter to literally every healing ult.
yea I'd never watch a Mr. Fantastic streamer, let's just say that
3:41 that's false. Mr. Fantastic keeps his elasticity the same for the duration of the block
10:30 his elasticity goes down while blocking
He only keeps it if he blocks while at 100
@@Beneficence111 the anonime is correct , block doesnt affect elasticity, elasticity. in video is going down is because it degrades when you spend some time not pressing buttons
why tf is your cam and chat so big I cant see shit
Second
the more and more I watch this game the more and more I appreciate Overwatch's design and philosophy. This game is such a fucking mess.
Are you just watching or are you playing?
Go cry
@@relaxedclaw Clocked about 20 hours but I started getting frustrated with the open queue model and the jank of third person (making it really hard to play magik properly), so I don't really play anymore.
@BigPapaMitchell Gotta tweak settings a bit more and Magik isn't an easy character to learn because of her kit. Feels stiff but you can animation cancel and stuff to make it flow more smoothly
@@relaxedclaw Her only problem is that her dash doesn't go to your crosshair because of 3rd person jank. Thats my only complaint.
Why does this teamcaptain guy get the credit "for making bad heroes work" when he's not even the one to do it first
because he's made a brand of it
@@ArkbladeIX well no he hasn't. Cuz as I just said he's actually just swooping in last second. Dude wasn't even the guy making wolverine work when people thought he was bad. Then out of nowhere people were talking about him.
this guy is boosted af and he doesn't even have impact with Mr Fantastic
also interesting to call gm3 high elo
Why is it interesting to call the top half a percent high elo?
This marvel game really got you huh?
Barely uploaded any video in the past 3 years and now youre non stop posting MR stuff
Bro is the reason why wolv is permabanned. From being the most useless character because people dont know his potential to becoming a permaban character. Poor to him cant play his main
Wolv is permabanned because they buffed him in season 1 and now he's an actual menace to deal with. Even without target bans Logan is banned in at least 75% of the games I play in.