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  • @marcmartel2829
    @marcmartel2829 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Since trying your single-pour method, I haven't gone back to the intermittent-pour recipe recommended by so many coffee TH-camrs. No matter what grind size I tried, I couldn't get away from overly sour brews. The single pour has all but eliminated undesired sourness in my coffee. I spent weeks trying to convince myself that coffee aficionados actually prefer more sour coffees. But it didn't make any sense to me. Just not enjoyable to drink. I've also moved to a hemp cloth filter on James Hoffman's recommendation, and I am very pleased with the more full bodied, bolder results the extra oils provide. It does make the stirring phase more challenging, but it's a worthy trade-off for my tastes.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      T___T this is probably one of the most heartwarming messages I've received. I've received a lot of them for this video too but this means a lot to me >.< Thank you for your support. I'm super glad you enjoy it. I also have a video coming up this week or next about the sourness .. I have an explanation about it !!!

    • @marcmartel2829
      @marcmartel2829 ปีที่แล้ว

      Looking forward to it.

    • @ecoconatus8089
      @ecoconatus8089 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you sharing, will try both single pour and hemp cloth!

  • @dylanbeschoner
    @dylanbeschoner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Vincent,
    In my opinion, your single pour technique is outstanding using the small ceramic cafec flower and the cafec light roast filters! Give it a shot

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello Dylan!
      Thank you for this, I am planning to get the flower dripper myself. It truly is beautiful for sure!

  • @notme123123
    @notme123123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I’ve tried a number of different v60 recipes. The one I always come back to is the single pour. It gives me the most consistently delicious cup.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Aww thank you very muchhhhh

    • @ram_bam
      @ram_bam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been switching between the April method (four equal pours at 30 second intervals) and the single pour. They both tend to be more consistent than any of the other recipes I've tried. For either recipe, I've come to love the stir at the end either way. It seems to consolidate everything and keeps the drawdown time and extraction consistent. On a day to day basis, I use the single pour most often.
      With April's method, I grind finer than their recommendation, as I feel like I get more of a "hollow" cup when going with their coarser grind, especially with lower brew temperatures.

    • @alephsk8739
      @alephsk8739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ram_bam april changed their recipe, now they only do 2 pours (100g each)

    • @ram_bam
      @ram_bam 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alephsk8739 Dang! I wasn't aware of this. I'll give the updated one a try tomorrow. I'm assuming still 50/50 two pour for brews over 200ml? Thanks!

    • @alephsk8739
      @alephsk8739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ram_bam its 30/70 - 30/70, I ask them if its the same for the v60, since the video was with their brewer and they said yes :),

  • @-8_8-
    @-8_8- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay! You're even saying what beans you're using. Great! Great for clarity, and hopefully helpful to you in the long run.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yessss I think it’s good to know what you’re working with before you brew. So there’s a bit more context and understanding for everyone as they watch!! Probably one of the best ideas I had yet 🙈

  • @razclud
    @razclud 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just awesome man! We love you and your content! Thank you

  • @yueyu9762
    @yueyu9762 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This method makes so much sense. It’s getting closer to an immersion brew and it’s very easy for a simple morning brew. Can’t wait to try it for my next coffee. You might have saved me money on a clever dripper.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ohhhhh I’m so so so glad you enjoy the method! It’s like immersion but with a bit more clarity isn’t it! 🔥✌🏼

    • @yueyu9762
      @yueyu9762 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TALESCOFFEEHey I just tried it for 3 brews and I have some feedback. It’s quick and easy but unlike immersion brewers, I can’t control the steep time. The quick brew time sometimes does me a disfavor. For very lightly roasted beans I need to grind much finer to increase the surface area. I still think blooming can be helpful when I want to sort of control the “steep time”. I like the single pour method since it’s quick and easy, but I do like two pour methods for some beans.

  • @robbiebenson2814
    @robbiebenson2814 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been having trouble making a good rich cup of coffee. My 1st cup using this method was better and the next was even better. Thank you so much.

  • @bassfayce7740
    @bassfayce7740 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Waiting for my hario switch to arrive n found you. I really like your content. Teaching me stuff and making me lolz 🤓 thanks 🙏🏽

  • @sahand5938
    @sahand5938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Single pour technique is definitely more fun than the other recipes! I tried with an origami with great results. Although during my spin I was hitting those edges hard and it slowed me down a bit, maybe I’ll try with a more flat walled v60.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aww thank you, the recipe is simple but can be adjusted heavily through understanding how the coffee reacts. I love it on the origami, it's bright but flavourful!

  • @ajiaprilsongs6022
    @ajiaprilsongs6022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ad killed me 🤣 love it.

  • @user-ie9sm4tm9s
    @user-ie9sm4tm9s ปีที่แล้ว +1

    minimal side channeling and no ring around the collar at the end if you keep the water level steady about an eighth inch above grounds bed in the single pour. must slower drip it in. took a while at a fast drip pour which occasionally broke into a weak stream.
    created impressive surprising sweetness in onyx eclipse dark coffee via large Chemex for a single serve. used 198 degrees and 1:16.5. no stir at all, before or after. medium course grind. no bloom of course with this method. mostly stayed away from the sides while pouring. zero sour or bitter, just sweet. note that Eclipse coffee is about as dark as you can get and it worked perfectly with 198 degrees and no stir or much pour stream agitation. am thinking that if you simplify and focus solely on sweetness, that's all you need.

  • @happymusics
    @happymusics 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting. Will try tomorrow... Thank you.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let us know how you like this technique!

  • @TheDennzio
    @TheDennzio ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah this is different from the first method but similar. Can’t wait to try it tomorrow. Right now I’m drinking a cup of the original single pour. How can it be better. We shall see. Thanks

  • @code_explorations
    @code_explorations ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate this video.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome! Thanks for your support!

  • @manuelpenaruiz3694
    @manuelpenaruiz3694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's really interesting how millions of people trust aeropress original recipe (super short brew time, tight ratio) and still stay kinda hesitate to believe that single pour is more than capable at extracting the best flavors out of coffee in a short time.
    Been single pouring for many months now with different coffees and gotta say it works perfect 🤙
    Thanks Vince!

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This right here says it all. AP/Siphon/Espresso all short brew times. AP even has bypass added, yet people seem to be very against the single pour idea 😩

      I’m just single and poor, together we will change their thoughts 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

    • @manuelpenaruiz3694
      @manuelpenaruiz3694 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TALESCOFFEE When I first tried single pour I was looking for a brewing method to get the best flavor in the cup the easy way. But happens that I actually found not just that perfect flavor but also a much much gentler cup. I wasn't expecting this to happen TBH but once I tried so many times I had no other choice but to recognize I found a tastier and much gentler cup, which is amazing!
      Less brewing time, less caffeine, this is factual and we all know that, right?
      SCA and all that have established so many rules and so many restrictions that I've come to think that they're just making easy things complex. Like a religion where nobody wants to defy the rules? To put it short, a good cup is a good cup, if you enjoy it, it's good, regardless of ratio, # of pours, weird water recipes, temperature and all that.
      This is not rocket science people, this is just a very nice way to grab some Joe at home and be happy for a moment ☕
      I totally support Vincent Ideas cuz I'm definitely getting much much tastier cups since I'm applying his concepts. This is no hype and Vincent isn't paying me a cent to post this. I'm just sharing my thoughts to whomever cares but i believe he deserves much more attention.
      Vince, here in Colombia totally supporting your work. Keep it up!
      Un saludo fraterno 🇨🇴

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TALESCOFFEE Some people doesn't understand the idea of contact time and agitation. And that is what makes your single pour technique special. And the heat retention during the brew that you forgot to mention about the problem single pour solved.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yeah heat retention too! Heheeheheeee I did forget this ahaha

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you so much for thissss!

      I think SCA is just very good for standardizing the system especially with grading coffee beans (though I do find it slipping a bit) but for their recipes it’s just like whatever.

      I think it’s actually other people that tend to just frame it as if they’re correct and say certain things as if it’s correct. A good example of this is 5 years back if you buy books or look online everyone said do not stir do not agitate. It’s bad for repeatability. Look at us now though, everyone is stir or swirling every cup. It’s actually the coffee people that impart this idea only their fundamentals are correct when they haven’t explored other avenues.

      Most tend to give off the idea that they’re correct but they could be testing many other things so, it’s just a matter of time when people come around and finally give in and start opening corridors!

      Thank you for all your support, and Colombian support hahhaa.

  • @wheeleep4587
    @wheeleep4587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang! I have the app coffee timer with different pour recipes with actual time & execution, I've tried a few & where OK & some came out worst, sorry noob here, But when I tried the single pour there was a difference, in a very good way, from the other recipe's I tried. Even my friends liked the single pour recipe. I think this is what my parents did, drank coffee @age 6 lol, at that time since this is the only way known at that time. Maybe my taste buds brought me back in time, thanks for introducing this recipe.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WOOOOOOOOOOOOO I'M SOOO glad to hear it worked out well for you YESSSSS!!

  • @darrenbarbera2377
    @darrenbarbera2377 ปีที่แล้ว

    This works for me 💯

  • @martinspilovsky9071
    @martinspilovsky9071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for sharing.

  • @z3r0w1ng
    @z3r0w1ng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another awesome video. While I agree with you on the theory of > agitation = more extraction, the only thing missing here is empirical data. Multi-pour with bloom technique vs single pour and stick them on a TDS refractometer. The formula from SCA; Extraction Yield % = Brewed Coffee (g) x TDS (%) / Dose (g) e.g. Extraction Yield % = 36 g x 10 % / 18 g = 20 %
    I honestly do the single pour method, well, at least a fairly consistent pour throughout. I am finding myself stirring during every pause in pour. The only reason I pause in my pour is my typical morning brew is 680ml water / 40g grinds, so I have to pause at least once maybe twice to let some water drain. During the pause, I do a quick stir to agitate the grinds and get them suspended. Then at the end I do a final stir and like you said, at that point, I feel no resistance as all the grinds are swirling in the water with only the fines sticking to the side.
    I am working on saving money for a refractometer as I really do want that data as there is a difference in the cup when I use the single pour vs bloom.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank youuuu!!

      I did run a test when a few people brought in their refractometers cause they also question the single pour. Even a 1:25 brew clocked 24% EY. The single pour is pretty consistent around the 25% where as your standard pourovers are closer to 20% .. so that’s just what it is. In fact if you watch sprometheus video on the single pour he also hit 24% and I found there’s a few things he could’ve done better. I mean he did great given how little time he’s had to practice in comparison to me though. Heheheee

    • @-8_8-
      @-8_8- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TALESCOFFEE well thanks for that. If real spromeatheus did "pretty good considering the time he had to practice..." I don't feel as bad about my inconsistencies. Still have to watch the newest video though. Perhaps that will also help my technique. I've decided to get more practice at this before going back to the balloom, which is extra steps.

    • @-8_8-
      @-8_8- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Empirical data would be nice. But since it is after all food, that taste test Vince did by separating into like a dozen mason jars was informative though not empirical. I am thinking about running the same experiment.

    • @mindybaum9310
      @mindybaum9310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same, I do chemex 54G around 800ish out. Full on single pour dose overflow a bit. I might have to stop once or twice. ALTHOUGH I do well if I bloom first with 100G water THAN single pour.🧐

  • @brianlampson1525
    @brianlampson1525 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well I’ve gone down the rabbit hole, I like to brew 2 cups in the morning. So I’ve adjusted the recipe 40 g of coffee to 600 mL of water. I met you Partway at 150° I may attempt lower. Because I definitely found an extraction difference. The richest fullest cup of coffee I’ve made. This experiment is still at large trying to get my technique down. Thank you

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re very welcome! Glad you’re loving the technique!

  • @cha1ny104
    @cha1ny104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried this for the first time today and am really impressed with this technique and your explanation, thank you! Would you say this method still works well for smaller doses like 12g?

    • @trashdayy5691
      @trashdayy5691 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been doing his newest method with 12g and i love the result although its a bit underextracted, I've adjusted my grind size a bit but I also need to work on my technique. All in all I could say this method works great for small doses, but a dose closer to 18g comes out much better in my experience.

  • @unknownentity222
    @unknownentity222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Starting to enjoy these videos. Gives me new ideas for personal experiments. Can't wait to recover from the flu to try your single pour technique.
    Edit: how unfortunate, I just got to the part of the video where you state the single pour method is unsuitable for dark roasts, gonna have to delay it for now.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ohhhh! You can try it. It’s less suitable but if you want definitely do the balloooom method I posted last week!

      If you do do single pour on it, you need to pour extra slow and move in and out more times. Like 4~ probably if it’s “dark” that I think it is!

    • @unknownentity222
      @unknownentity222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TALESCOFFEE definitely gonna give that a shot! Thanks again!

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re welcome! Let me know if you have questions with it!

    • @-8_8-
      @-8_8- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Brazil Santos comes out chocolaty. Don't know about really dark coffee, but medium dark sings. Just be prepared to make extract and add bypass. Also be prepared to stop the dripping. Occasionally all that "silt" (fines?) slows and clogs the brew.

  • @nicktruong5985
    @nicktruong5985 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, I have actually watched your Cold Bloom experiments recently and was wondering about using lower temp water instead of the need of using ice .
    You can try monitoring the temp when brewing with ice then replicate the same temp without using the ice, I just think that would be a great idea
    And also, I would agree that Single Pour is very awesome, but not everyone has a grinder that can work well when grinding finer, especially mine which creates lots of fines the more finer I go for. Yes you can still make a good cup even with lots of fines but it would be much safer and more flavourful with a courser grind, lower temp, pulse pours without extracting much bitterness.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey!
      Yups, you could use the lower water. It's just with lower water temp you'll end up doing a bloom on lower water temperature which is fine as well! You don't need a lot of water to get the "protection" phase.
      I'm surprised you're getting so many fines on a finer side. Hmm .. generally the rule is the finer you go the lower the deviation of grind size. Though I am glad you've found a good balance for yourself with the coarser grind size and lower temp!

    • @nicktruong5985
      @nicktruong5985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TALESCOFFEE hmmmm, the finer I go for, the more fines are stuck on the wall of the catch-cup on my hand grinder, that is basically what I observe.
      I would love to hear your opinion

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicktruong5985 Those are just lighter grounds, you could remove them or keep them. It's just if you look on larger grind sizes you'll see the boulders have a lot more fines on them. It doesn't mean that finer grind sizes have more fines, it's just you don't notice it since the static ones are stuck to larger ones. It just comes down to technique and how you enjoy it though!

    • @nicktruong5985
      @nicktruong5985 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TALESCOFFEE oh man, will try in later experiments, I am a Barista myself and always find it hard to understand when it comes to mechanism - related subject haha
      I have try finer grinds with 2 pours and courser with 4 pours and I notice the acidity, texture and aroma are way more noticeable and complex in the 4 pours cup while the 2 Pours resulted in a much balance, or sweeter cup but less aromatic, bitterness, body and texture.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nicktruong5985 mechanics is like =X. It's just guess and check at all times HAHAHA
      but for the 4 pours because the coffee did sink you're just mostly extracting from the top layer. Which allows it to be a little bit less heavy then the 2 pours. Since at 2 pours you have less agitation so on your 2nd pour you're going to be lifting the grounds higher overall resulting in a higher extraction. At least IMO
      The sweetness probably comes from you disliking the strength in the cup. We roast medium light but get really beautiful rich cups because of the technique. It also does depend on your coffees of course. If you like the lighter taste you can always just swap to a lower water temp. Even 1-2 degrees you'll notice a difference because it's automatically a little slower ^^

  • @kyle13342
    @kyle13342 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this only work with a v60? Or can this technique also be used on a kalita 102 dripper

  • @j4nnem4n
    @j4nnem4n 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    looking for the best technique for my Melitta #2 single hole dripper, this sounds interesting

  • @impalist
    @impalist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your videos have got me wanting to try single pour techniques for V60 pourovers. I'm usually brewing light-roasted coffees with a grinder that produces little fines relatively.
    Just a couple of questions before trying:
    1. Do you usually aim to finish the pour by a certain time, or try to hit a target pour rate?
    2. When you're doing the chopstick stir you do so often, at the final part where you're poking the bottom - are you making contact with the paper or reaching the general bottom region somewhere good enough?
    Thanks Vince, and great video today.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I kinda pour in a way I feel good. It changes as I see the beans change or react? I guess that’s the way to put it

      As for the chopstick part I do touch the bottom. It is necessary but it’s just an OCD thing where it’s like I might as well hit the bottom. And then at the same time I know if my pour method caused the beans to sink too quickly. I can feel at the bottom if there’s anything clogging ~

      Thank you!! Hope you like the method, if you have questions or issues with it, feel free to send me a picture on Instagram and we can trouble shoot it together!

  • @tippykaffu4047
    @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The reason why V60 is popular probably complexity that came from the uneven extraction which is a bit ironic IMO. Outside april brewers, I think conicals still work the best for me for the taste it brings out compared to the typical flat bottom.
    Trapping aroma is not exactly correct. What I find in some flat bottoms are that they make great and strong aroma coming out from both dripper and coffee even with blooming and multiple pours. I still don't know how aroma came to be. Either way, aroma in your single pour always have a complex aroma which I don't know why either but I don't think its the aroma trapping. I think its how it was dissolved.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think flat bottoms also bring more aroma down? Idk tbh it’s cause more grounds are floating and have more surface area in contact with the water. So I think the aroma is due to that tbh.

      It’s true the funny part is complexity could be due to uneven extraction hmm ..

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TALESCOFFEE well maybe we should leave it to the scientists on this one

  • @FiveAcross
    @FiveAcross 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, just picked up a v60 the other day (fairly new to specialty coffee in general), and came across your masterclass video. Decided to try the method today, which I had some issues with one being maybe pouring too slow, as it seemed to drain faster than I was wetting the grounds? (only the middle was staying saturated when the outer grounds while looked wet...they looked more like a bed and not covered like yours seems to be.) That, and when I stirred at the end (albeit not very well due to jitters from an earlier cup), I ended up with a flat bed and not domed. Can you explain what went wrong?

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pouring too slow is not exactly the problem from draining too fast. You need in single pour is generally slower pour until you are trying to reach your target water mass. What you need is to grind much much finer and stir when your dripper is full to the brim and start stirring at the top of the v60. You shouldn't worry too much about the dome, I didn't find the dome necessary for an amazing cup in this single pour technique in my experience.
      Vince also has a video if your grinder can't go fine enough. Which grinder are you using or are you using pre-ground? What is the roast profile of your coffee?

    • @FiveAcross
      @FiveAcross 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tippykaffu4047 I use a Timemore c2, I believe I did 20 clicks (slightly coarser than AP grind) - Medium roast, Single Origin Natural from Mexico. With non-tabbed Hario filters. (I tried finer around 18 clicks earlier today) and the draw down was even faster (finished around 1:30)

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m also thinking it might be a grind size issue. But if it’s a Mexican coffee that’s a medium roast .. The one in my video is also a medium Mexican one. It’s a bit tricky imo, if you don’t pour with enough intent the coffee can drain really really fast and that’s not what we want. It’s cause this bean tends to have more gas. So you need to pour extra slow and release the gases and then press all the floaters down ~

      If you’re having issues make sure to send me a DM with the picture of your finished brew!

  • @fokcuk
    @fokcuk ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Waiting for my v60 to try it!
    It was probably asked many times, but what do you use to stir it with? I remember you said not to use wood.
    Would a normal spoon work? Trying to bring less things with me on trips

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a chopstick, can use wood. Stick is better then spoon .. too much agitation in spoon

  • @ashh3051
    @ashh3051 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question about uneven extraction with the single pour. Since you start pouring slowly from the center, the grounds in the middle get exposed to the water before the outer grounds that are higher in the cone. Doesn't that mean the grounds that get wet last will be less extracted?

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean it could be true but this is true for all pourovers. The beginning first drip needs to be strong so I think a slow pour is best overall. You’ll always have over/under extracted but I think this has the least variance.

  • @MaruelZain
    @MaruelZain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Vincent. I like the single pour technique but in general I get way too strong coffee borderline overextracted. I brew 12:200g in about 1:30~1:45. How could I adapt your technique for a lighter fruity brew? I suspect the stirring at the end drives the extraction way high up. Grinding coarser makes it difficult to sink all the grounds. Thanks!

    • @razclud
      @razclud 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Having the same issues with some coffees. Anaerobic processes are just too strong to enjoy. I would have to grind way coarser and you end up with under extraction. Have you tried with no stirring? I will tomorrow

    • @MaruelZain
      @MaruelZain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@razclud I can't recall anymore because I was trying to find my base method from which to work on. At the end of the day I do believe all methods can achieve the same thing, you just need to tweak parameters (grind size, # pours, agitation, etc). I'd expect the single pour with no stirring to work poorly because in my opinion there isn't enough agitation with just one pour (also I'm not yet sold on the idea that starting with a super slow pour for a strong first drip is ideal - this is contrary to evenly saturating the grounds). In my opinion and for my taste, a single pour would work great with a very controlled amount of stirring which I find extremely inconsistent by nature. If you're only ever brewing the same coffee repeatedly then yeah, otherwise I think it's much more effective to work with a simpler and more reliable method such as the 2 pour from April coffee as a starting point and adjust from there.

  • @samueltaylor2757
    @samueltaylor2757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to hear your reaction to the V60 Voodoo technique from The Wired Gormet's channel. He seems to have relatively similar observations to you (plus a couple questionable claims) but the resulting brew technique is almost polar opposite to your single pour technique. It's a 5 minute fine grind pulse pour with the last pour at 3 mins... which feels very long. It would be good to hear some dialog on the brew time justification because though you say that that coffee takes a short time to extract but others seem to disagree?

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes!!! I think any method as they explain the purpose and the process is a good brew. I don’t have to agree but I respect the understanding people share.

      That being said I will go check this out!

      If it’s super fine .. I would think flavours are extracted really quickly. Personally I don’t like the clogging or drain times. Lemme watch it and get back to you! At the end of the day though it’s just a preference!

    • @samueltaylor2757
      @samueltaylor2757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TALESCOFFEE Awesome! glad you're open to other takes. loving the vids so far

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Always open. As long as people explain Their thoughts! I’m just at work rn so I can’t watch anything but I have it saved and ready to gooooo

    • @-8_8-
      @-8_8- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going to bet wired gourmet uses a no stirring technique, or I would think his whole cup would be over extracted at that brew time.

  • @jakjakman
    @jakjakman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What type of filter do you use for the single pour?

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey! I just use the normal hario v60 filters!

  • @sahand5938
    @sahand5938 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question about why you think dark roasts need more agitation than light roasts?

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      GOOD QUESTION! it's because dark coffees give off more gases. More gases means there's more "repelling" between the grinds and the water itself. So you need to use more agitation to break through the repelling and dig into the centre of each grind. So what you want is to imagine how you can elongate the darker roast brews in the beginning. Whether it's with packing the grinds tighter or to pour even slower. This way you get the full extraction from the first drip and still have no problems with the speed/extraction towards the middle/end!

  • @dh6167
    @dh6167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What would you recommend for a freshly roasted coffee that is giving off a bunch of gas? It's about 4 days post roasting and by 30 seconds into the single pour, it starts to really mushroom out and fill the brewer which is something I never experienced before using the single pour method. Do I also need to maybe go to the sides quicker and then back to the center? Thanks!

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey!!

      For higher gas coffees I would drop the water temperature, dropping just 2-3 degrees allows for significantly more control. You’re also probably pouring a bit fast, make sure to press the mushroom cloud down with the pour technique alone ^^

      Lmk if you’re still having issues, you can always dm us on ig with pictures!!

  • @vizzo7
    @vizzo7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video. do you know by chance how many clicks i need on th comandante grinder for this pour? Does this method work with ethiopian coffees which tends to cloak?

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It works most of the time unless its dark roast like Osaka or italian. I think that is something you should explore on your own when it comes to grind size as every grinders including all C40s are unique and grind a little differently to each other.
      Anyways, you need to grind as fine as possible until you clog or unable to reach the target less than 2 minutes. However, you can adjust coarser up to your taste.
      I really like 19 clicks for mine on all washed but might go 1-2 click coarser for natural. For a much more similar result, I suggest 17-20 clicks.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yups! This method works for anyrhing that isn’t tooooo dark! As for grind size hmm .. no clue >.< sorry I heard people using around 18 clicks though? That’s what I’ve heard at least ahaha.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh here it is 17-20 thanks!!

    • @vizzo7
      @vizzo7 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tippykaffu4047 thanks.that i will try

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vizzo7 I forgot to mention, you should grind up to your taste as well. You might want the complexity of ethiopian with coarser grind for example.

  • @ewancameron5281
    @ewancameron5281 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Using your method, I've managed to get my pour in 45 seconds with a 2 minute total brew time but it still tastes a bit underextracted, any tips on maximising extraction? Using your recipe of 20g of coffee to 300g of water

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heyyy! What’s your grind size looking like? Are there grinds on the walls of the dripper full of coffee grounds?

    • @magohipnosis
      @magohipnosis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I dialed down from 15 to 13 at timemore C2 it improved the overall flavour. It is the start of espresso grounds.

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you might be having the lack of agitation.

  • @DaydreamsOfArne
    @DaydreamsOfArne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone use the Timemore C2 grinder? Around how many clicks is the sweet spot for the grind size?

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I BELIEVE (I don't remember anymore) but around 20-24? This is when I was using I do not remember perfectly but if you try there and struggle plz send me a picture through DM's lets troubleshoot this together!

    • @DaydreamsOfArne
      @DaydreamsOfArne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TALESCOFFEE I have mine on 18... Was I brewing too fine?😅 I'll give it shot and dm you guys on ig.

    • @chumphmonster
      @chumphmonster 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaydreamsOfArne i have mine at 17 but i’m not sure if i’m correct either

  • @Donnie3D84
    @Donnie3D84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How should I treat High Roasts and City Roasts brewing wise? Should I treat them as light, medium, or dark roast?

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      with med-dark to dark like high roasts, you'd better off bloom your coffee. You can do the traditional bloom or Vince's new bloom pour from his very recent video.
      With city roast, you can start pouring with a little higher before going back to your spout being very close to the ground height and lower your water temperature

    • @Donnie3D84
      @Donnie3D84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tippykaffu4047 What about High Roasts? Are you familiar with those?

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Donnie3D84 I did answer your question though. any dark roasts or anything close to dark roast needs bloom for best result as possible but its not exactly necessary. You dont want to extract much from dark roast anyways.
      When it comes to roast profile, its best to describe it light, medium or dark to make it easier. Its much easier and most roast profiles that is in similar range can be described the same way. The only difference is the style but that is not a topic to talk about or something I am capable to understand.
      you can technically do something like Tetsu kasuya as well but you need that mugen dripper or at least hario switch for best result. You can technically do it in normal v60 but mugen is better for dark roast with Kasuya's.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So for high and city roasts both are of the darker roasting profiles. You’re better off blooming unless you brew massive cups. The last video or if you look up the balloom is a how I personally like to bloom so check that out and lmk there! ✌🏼

    • @Donnie3D84
      @Donnie3D84 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tippykaffu4047 oh geez sorry I didn't see the part where you specified the high roast profile and I only saw the city roast profile do to reading over it too fast. Sorry again, I'm an idiot.

  • @DaydreamsOfArne
    @DaydreamsOfArne 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still have trouble with too much gas. I use a Brazilian medium roast.

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can either degas longer, brew lower temperature or/and pour a bit higher at the start. You can watch about it in his older video about pouring height

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If it’s gases you can drop the water temp or pour slower! Make sure to not fill a large kettle up to the top. You’ll get more control with just enough water!

  • @mindybaum9310
    @mindybaum9310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any hacks for LARGE batches 50ish Grams ?????????

  • @cloudfrenzy9951
    @cloudfrenzy9951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just curious. Which V60 brewer do you like the most besides the Hario Switch?

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Origami, it creates an even richer and sweeter coffee than what a Hario switch can due to its ability to go even finer grind size and higher agitation. You can look it up.

    • @cloudfrenzy9951
      @cloudfrenzy9951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tippykaffu4047 I have bought one actually after watching one of Vincent's video. I love the Origami but sometimes feels frustrating with it because it's not as consistent as the good old v60 in my expreience. Maybe it's because I am not using it as my daily driver and still haven't got used to it.

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cloudfrenzy9951 It takes time to get used to in brewing on Origami as well. I had problems with filling to the brim before getting to the target mass. You gotta have that slow pour for a longer time

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Origami is my favourite but only the small size haha.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you using the wooden base or the plastic one? That aside the origami has brighter notes simply because there’s more airflow in the dripper which does result in a faster brew time.

      Also because it drains faster you need to pour slower in the beginning which does make it a bit trickier. But because less oils get stuck in the filters I find the texture and sweetness higher while having a brighter note to it. (Personally at least)

  • @mindybaum9310
    @mindybaum9310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    H E L P !!!! 🙈 I use a large chemex with YES, 54 Grams yep I said it, 54 G. Can you tell me how to achieve your technique without over pouring the top of the vessel with water ?? I tried slowing the flow down, but it still was a bit to high & some ran off ! My recipe is 54G in and around 850 860ish out . I am using a ratio of 1.16
    Thank Uuuuuu, Mindy
    ☆ I have always done a single pour, BUT with a bloom

    • @razclud
      @razclud 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coarser grind and lower flow but it might just be too much coffee for the chemex.

    • @mindybaum9310
      @mindybaum9310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@razclud maybe

    • @mindybaum9310
      @mindybaum9310 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this technique is best with small amount of Grams

  • @trancethan
    @trancethan 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I’m doing enough for two people. Let’s say 30/500. Should the brew time be the same?

    • @tippykaffu4047
      @tippykaffu4047 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, brew time is not the end-all-be-all but a target. and grind a bit coarser for the target time.

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The brew time would be a little longer just cause 500 does take a bit more time. I don’t expect it to exceed 3:00 though!

  • @-8_8-
    @-8_8- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh, I'm filling way too much before moving out.

  • @alecthecatholic3380
    @alecthecatholic3380 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not single or poor…. I I will single pour haha

  • @markharmon6942
    @markharmon6942 ปีที่แล้ว

    Omg. No tin foil socks? No eagle feather in your hip pocket? Far too easy.

  • @Dimich1993
    @Dimich1993 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I've come to think maybe you're the best thing that happened to pour overs ever!
    Please support Ukraine guys!

  • @fokcuk
    @fokcuk ปีที่แล้ว

    450 microns is pretty fine...

    • @TALESCOFFEE
      @TALESCOFFEE  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yups! I’m like 400~ right now flow is great though!